Tigers right-hander Rick Porcello has opted out of his contract and is now eligible for salary arbitration, reports James Schmehl of MLive.com. The 27th overall pick of the 2007 draft, Porcello signed a four-year, $7.285MM pact (plus club options for 2011 and 2012) as his first Major League contract. Porcello, however, had the right to opt out of the final year of that contract and in doing so, the Tigers are spared the no-brainer decision of exercising their $1.344MM option on Porcello for next season. Detroit still has the righty under team control through the 2015 season.
This move was widely expected and became even more of a sure thing once Porcello qualified for Super Two status and gained an extra year of arbitration eligibility. Matt Swartz's MLBTR-exclusive arbitration model projects Porcello to earn a $4.2MM salary through arbitration this winter. Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski said he hadn't exchanged figures with Porcello's representatives about a 2012 contract.
Porcello, who turned 23 last week, has a 4.54 ERA, a 2.04 K/BB rate and a 51.9% ground ball rate in 89 career Major League starts. He has also proven himself to have a durable arm, averaging 172 innings pitched over his three seasons.
Wonder if the Yankees or Sox go after him if he becomes available. I don’t think he would pitch all that well for either team, but it probably wouldn’t be at a high cost. I hope the Yankees avoid him though.
Edit – Cancel this wrong statement of mine please lol
Read the article. It says he is still under team control, he’s just up for arbitration now
Was just about to edit it. Thank you. Sorry.
But there is a chance right? I like Porcello , since the kids from NJ,not to far from the Bronx, and I think he would be a great fit in NYC
No, there is absolutely no chance. The Tigers still control him. Please always read the entire article before posting, not just the first 5 words of the headline, which you clearly are doing.
what about a trade?
Impossible. Those are illegal.
Why would the Tigers trade him? Be smarter
yeah well Nova’s gunna develop into a better pitcher anyways
Completely random, but Porcello has a much higher ceiling than Nova does but the Tigers ruined Porcello by rushing him to the majors. Never gave him the time to develop (hence he has yet to develop an outpitch to lefties)
We shall see.
Nova’s good, but overrated.
Montero, Bet, and Ban?
I know never gonna happen. But Porcello isn’t going anywhere either
I’ll trade you some reading comprehension skills and patience for a coke and a smile.
Why are you so angry at this guy? He didn’t even start the miscomprehension. He’s simply asking if his team could acquire Porcello. I see nothing wrong with that. There are ridiculous trade proposals put on here all the time. I see no reason why the Tigers would say Porcello is untouchable.
My guess is it’s something like this
Stop. Just stop.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to misread the post, as it seems so many posters here never actually read the article and only the headline, and it turns out, it was post #1. Way to go…
Because you’ve never misread anything in your life either huh?
Then again, you said CC > Verlander in 2011 and you said Gio is an ace.
Those are opinions I have, yes. CC had a higher WAR than Verlander according to fangraphs, and Gio was the ace of the A’s, who were the 3rd best pitching staff in the AL. Those are facts that caused my opinions.
You read the first 5 words of a headline and then posted something hastily.
One of these things is fine, the other isnt.
One of these things is fine, the other isnt.”
One of those things was a misreading, the other is silliness.
Just becaause one has a higher WAR on one site doesn’t mean one was better/more valuable than the other.
Jeez, Brett Gardner on FanGraphs had the same WAR last year as Albert Pujols.
To add on to your WAR argument, Verlander had a higher WAR than CC on B-Ref and FanGraphs WAR is terrible for pitchers. Considering it lists one of the worst pitcher in baseball last year (Sorry Red Sox fans), John Lackey, as a win and a half better than an AAAA player.
I never stated my opinions as fact, why are you writing as if I am? I’m just explaining how I came to those opinions.
Just read the WHOLE article before posting. I do. You should too, these guys put time and effort to write them. Just reading the headline and then posting like so many people on here annoyingly do is insulting to Tim and Ben and everyone else.
I never said you stated your opinions as facts. But stop telling people what to do and what not to do.
” Just read the WHOLE article before posting. I do. You should too, these guys put time and effort to write them. ”
Tim and Ben and the others post links, then they write their own opinions. When I first posted the only thing written was this: “Tigers right-hander Rick Porcello has opted out of his contract and is now eligible for salary arbitration, reports James Schmehl of MLive. The 27th overall pick of the 2007 draft, Porcello signed a four-year, $7.285MM pact (plus club options for 2011 and 2012) as his first Major League contract. “
Apparently my post got erased after I edited it, and sorry for the double post if it comes back.
FYI, the only thing that was written when I first posted was the headline and part of the opening paragraph (which yes included the article). Tim and Ben and the others post links to articles, they don’t write the articles, they write their thoughts afterwards which wasn’t on here at first.
And now I see my post did come back.
I await Pete to blame me on this too :p
East Coast Bias
I don’t think you’ve made your point yet. Keep going!
“Jeez, Brett Gardner on FanGraphs had the same WAR last year as Albert Pujols.”
Yes, he did. Because Pujols had the worst year of his career and Gardner has put up 2 of the best defensive years of all time.
And seriously, B-Ref’s WAR is based on ERA, which is sort of ridiculous, and highly luck based. Every single advanced pitching metric suggested that Lackey’s ERA should have been at least a run better, some closer to 2 runs better.
And Fangraphs WAR is based on FIP which doesn’t tell you everything either.
It’s certainly better though. However, I choose to look at a combination of SIERA, FIP, xFIP and tRA in order to get a more complete perspective on a pitcher’s performance.
Im getting into SIERRA and tRA more. FIP I find horrible
I’m still not sure I understand what you dislike so much about FIP? I prefer SIERA because it at least attempts to account for hits, but it isn’t like FIP is inherently flawed (it does a good job of telling you exactly what it is meant to tell you).
The people who like FIP such as yourself I assume like it because it shows how a pitcher does without defense, however some don’t seem to realize that FIP does include defense because Innings Pitch is a stat in it.
And as I said, it ignores singles, doubles and triples allowed. Something that is very important which I’m sure you will not disagree with. Yes it is not a pitchers full responsibility but FIP makes it assume they aren’t responsible for any allowed.
Verlander had more wins and a better ERA according to everything.
and a higher xfip and fip
And basically more of everything else, but WAR.
Answer this to me if he opted-out how come he is under team control until 2015?
Tigers have bird rights, and he only has 3 years of MLB service time.
He signed a major league deal out of the draft but regardless a team still gets 6 years of major league control.
He is still arbitration eligible. Teams get 6 years of team control on a player, even with him signing a major league deal. He made his debut in 2009 so his sixth year would make him eligible for free agency in 2015.
a wizard did it
Good lord, sorry the Yankees/Red Sox DON’T sign everyone, read the article
I just did and brian310 corrected me on it. I never said the Yankees and Sox sign everyone, but they are teams looking for SP.
Might as well stop..
some of the people here will not cease even after you corrected that little mistake no matter how many retractions/apologies you do.
One has to wonder exactly what enjoyment some of these who go out and get from that harassment.
BTW: You are fine in my book.. Even if you are a NYY fan 🙂
Thanks, I appreciate it. Same to you. I get along with plenty of RS fans on here as well.
Only 23 and he will get a lot better with more innngs
I predict Porcello will sign a one year deal and avoid the arbitration process. I don’t think Dombrowski’s gone to arbitration with a player once since he’s taken over as Tigers’ GM.
There should be a Q&A before signing up for this site so that in order to post, you must understand what the rules of arbitration are, amongst many other things.
Don’t mind me, just shaking my head til it falls off over here, continue on not knowing how the business of baseball works, nevermind me…
It was a pretty good question to a situation you don’t see very often. Get off the horse.
Nope, someone saw “opts out of contract” and posted, when it was even fully explained in the article. People do this all the time on this site and its annoying, why do Ben and Tim et al even bother writing articles if everyones just going to go off what the headline says before reading them? READ then post.
I bet you aced every English essay and test.
Well I did do very well at reading comprehension, which is a skill apparently not many on the internet care to posses.
My writing and editing needs work though, as those who catch all the millions of typos/poor structuring in my posts notice before I edit with the quickness.
And apparently, minor errors and misunderstandings, on the internet, make you frustrated
Please, get over yourself. You’re not that cool. Thanks.
There should obviously be a rule against unnecessary whining. But I guess rooting for the A’s can make you angry.
I never saw such silliness. Most of the posters on here are not even Tigers fans and not only that I never saw so many apologies for misunderstanding the rules.
If someone messed up, someone messed up. Get on with your Friday!
PS Since Rick P is going to get a raise, he should buy beer for everyone make up for the confusion you caused!
It smells like dead horse in here.
really??? what happened to Sarah Jessica Parker???
I sure hope they don’t even consider trading Castellanos because he is going to be their 3rd baseman of the future I think, and we don’t want to get rid of all of our prospects either.