The Tigers are not looking to trade top pitching prospect Jacob Turner, GM Dave Dombrowski told Lynn Henning of the Detroit News. Dombrowski said he did not offer Turner for Matt Garza. The GM admitted to actively pursuing Gio Gonzalez, but added, "I don't think there is another call we've made in pursuing another starting pitcher." There are no ongoing trade talks for starting pitching, Dombrowski told MLB.com's Jason Beck. Instead, the Tigers are open to adding a swingman type of pitcher.
Four days ago, Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports wrote that the Tigers "have quietly pursued starting pitchers throughout the offseason" and were involved on Garza. The following day, ESPN's Buster Olney tweeted that the Tigers "have made it known to other teams that they are willing to trade Jacob Turner in a deal for the right pitcher." Dombrowski told Henning, "There's been a lot of things written in recent weeks that have been totally incorrect," speculating that rumors came "probably from a strategic point of bargaining."
Guess the Cubs aren’t trading Garza…
They are only getting a top prospect if they go for a hitter instead of pitcher, Marlins would trade Yelch, they don’t seem to care about prospects at all, they just want guys that can help now. It’s fine if they can afford to re sign these guys.
“I don’t think there is another call we’ve made in pursuing another starting pitcher.”
I would hope that is something he would be able to remember….
Two weeks later, Turner is gone.
Exactly…
if theo offers garza for turner straight up, dombrowski will jump on that like a b#### in heat…anything can happen
So where is that guy that said “Detroit already said they trade Turner”
Hey Guy where you at now?
I’m right here. Did you read the rest of the article? Buster Olney’s report to the contrary, which is what I was referencing, is mentioned.
True but did you read the rest of this article?
“Dombrowski told Henning, “There’s been a lot of things written in recent weeks that have been totally incorrect,” speculating that rumors came “probably from a strategic point of bargaining.”
which is the article you mentioned
cmon man, its called posturing.. youve never seen this done b4?? are u really a baseball fan??
actually i am a baseball fan. my first comment was more of a joke and he took it the wrong way so all i did was reply the way he did to me. i know how this works.
And the rest of the article has what to do with my original post with the information at hand at that time?
//Dombrowski told Henning, “There’s been a lot of things written in recent weeks that have been totally incorrect,” speculating that rumors came “probably from a strategic point of bargaining.”//
That’s not surprising.
There are either a lot of speculators out there, or a lot of liars. My guess is on both!
Scott Swaim? Hahaha.
Kind of like how they had no plans to trade Granderson and then BOOM, a week later he was gone?
It’s possible
The way I read it is… “We’re not offering Turner to anyone, but if the right deal was presented to us…”
Me too.
This is welcoming news. Ideally I would like to see them bite the bullet and pay for Oswalt for a year to round out the rotation. Then next year when Turner and Smyly are ready shop either Porcello or Scherzer to fill a need, kinda like the Braves are trying to do with JJ.
I would much rather shop Porcello than Scherzer. But also isn’t the SP FA pool for 2012 deeper than this year? Either of those guys will probably fetch less in a package next year than now. Now is obviously not the time to trade them though, and I agree Oswalt would be good.
Maybe not as strong as this years market but there will always be a need for good starting pitching. With Porcello and Scherzer, I wouldn’t be surprised if by this time next Porcello is seen as the better pitcher. Scherzer is good but his delivery is not very fluid and I could picture him running into some complications down the road. Porcello is still very young and I don’t think has hit his ceiling.
“We want to win now – but I’ll be DAMNED if we trade prospects to do that!” … So what do you plan to do? I say sign Oswalt, and leave it at that. If you really wanna win now, trade a few players for Hanley, and there you go.
DD, if you do not bring in another top line starting pitcher, say good bye to a World Series Title. It was obvious that the Tigers were 1-2 pitchers short in the bullpen and 1 starting pitcher short in the series with Texas. Until you bring in one more bullpen piece and a pitcher on the the level of a Garza, this roster will not be Leyland proof. The risk here is you are banking on either Porcello or Sherzer to step forward and that is too big a risk with Leyland as your manager.
It was the bullpen that let down the Tigers in the post-season, not their starting pitching. Fister, Scherzer, and Porcello all pitched very well.
To win the World Series, the Tigers need another starting pitcher who is more consistent then Shurzer; in addition, Porcello was not very good in the playoffs. Not sure what games you were watching.
Do you ever spell Scherzer’s name right? I’d assume a Tigers fan would know how by now (unless you’re just trolling the Tigers).
Porcello was good in the Texas series.
Who is Shurzer?
they gotta make a move for another ace type starter or sign oswalt because max is a middle of the rotation guy gonna give u high 3 low 4 era., never no what u gonna get outta porcello, JV jus gonna be JV and fister did what he did but its no garentee that hes gonna put numbers like that again, i dont wanna see turner go but if u can get a guy like graza, jair jurgains or a young good starter trade turner to get him cuz turners still a prospect and hasnt proved his self and your gettin a guy whos under 30 and got years on end in there prime left, they need an average 3rd baseman or second baseman or both to b4 spring trainin hits
There’s no reason they can’t wait and see if Scherzer or Porcello take a leap forward. If they don’t they can always make a move sometime during the season.
That said, I think Oswalt would be a great fit for them.
Are you speaking Detroitian? English next time please.
Whew. This makes me somewhat relieved.
I just have a feeling that if the Tigers trade Turner in a deal for a non-elite player they’re going to end up regretting it for years.
I am one of the few Tiger fans that thinks we should trade Turner. I wasn’t overly impressed with him during his call-up. His fastball wasn’t as lively as I thought it would be and his inability to hold runners was horrible. I think he’s another Porcello who was hyped but might actually be a #2/3 type pitcher. He looked far from an ace to me. I might trade him while his stock is high, just like I thought we should have done with Oliver. Now no one is interested in Oliver.
Of course his fastball wasn’t lively. He’s a sinkerball pitcher.
Turner is a true sinkerball pitcher with a very heavy fastball. He’s not going to be throwing fireballs like Verlander. And what did you expect to see from a kid in, what, 12 IP of major league baseball?
I wasn’t expecting too much. Most reports I heard had him around 92 with his sinker and 94-96 4-seam. While its true he wasnt up long I just got the feeling he’s overhyped and I would rather trade the name before we have the player. Probably not going to be a popular view but it’s just the feeling I got.
Almost all prospects are overhyped, imo. I still think Turner has a good chance of being pretty good.
Keep in mind he is way ahead of schedule. If not for the Tigers very aggressive ways of pushing their prospects the minors, at his age most teams wouldn’t have him past A ball. Sure he might not meet his potential, for his age he is very advanced.
If you would have asked me a week ago if I would like a Garza for Turner trade, I would have said yes. But with each day, I disliked the idea a little more.