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Latest On Phillies, Cole Hamels

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | March 28, 2012 at 3:30pm CDT

The Phillies know how much it will cost to lock Cole Hamels up to an extension, and the sides appear to be making progress toward a long-term deal, Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com reports. No deadline exists, but Opening Day looms as an unofficial turning point for the negotiations.

One person tells Salisbury that the Phillies are prepared to pay the left-hander in excess of $20MM per season on a multiyear deal. However, contract length is an issue, as the Phillies prefer a four-year agreement, while Hamels and agent John Boggs want more.

Another person said talks have been progressing and predicted the sides will reach an agreement. This means there’s still a chance the Phillies will keep Hamels off of the open market and away from potential bidders like the Dodgers and Yankees. The 28-year-old is on track to hit free agency after the 2012 season.

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  1. farismatic

    13 years ago

    I only have this to say: as a Dodger fan, it’s a beautiful thing to see the words, “potential bidders like the Dodgers and Yankees” on the bottom of this post, right where they should be.

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    • nm344

      13 years ago

      Now have fun enjoying your 50% raises in ticket prices.

      Reply
      • Table

        13 years ago

         That’s not going to happen, at least not until the Dodgers fields a team on par with the Yanks/Phillies/Redsox and at that point I think fans would be ok with 50% increase (though thats still an exaggeration)

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        • Gumby65

          13 years ago

          Dodgers tend to drastically raise prices on premium seats only; the big money to be made is on an impending TV deal.

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          • vtadave

            13 years ago

            Exactly. It’s likely the $400 seats will be bumped up to $500 or something, but when you have $400 to spend on a ticket, you certainly have $500. I would venture to guess the majority of the seats would cost the same or slightly more.

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      • vtadave

        13 years ago

        Rumor has it that it will cost me $500 a ticket to see Hunger Games at one of Magic’s theaters.  This will be after I drop $275 on a Grande Latte and biscotti.  🙂

        Reply
    • ItTakesFaith

      13 years ago

      As a fellow long-suffering Dodger fan, it’s about time…!

      Reply
  2. Kevin Swords

    13 years ago

    If he replicates his numbers from last season, I don’t see him signing anything less than a 6 year deal ($20MM AAV).  He’s young (28), reliable, and left-handed.

    Reply
    • Wilson

      13 years ago

      pretty good chance he gets that before even having to replicate last year’s numbers

      Reply
  3. WolandJR

    13 years ago

    I am really interested to see what happens when the Phillies get old, expensive and less competitive relative to the other NL East teams.

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    • Wilson

      13 years ago

      well, the low A system, some of which is now in AA, has won a LOT of games including a championship. They have pretty exciting players that are being developed that will be infused along the way. Also they are increasingly involved in foreign scouting. Soler could be a top target of theirs, and soon. I really don’t think, given the massive revenue that they generate, that there will be the falloff that rival nl east teams are hoping for. 

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      • WolandJR

        13 years ago

        Thank you for the insights. Very helpful info re: the minor league system.

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      • BDLugz

        13 years ago

        The system is typically ranked between 20th and 25th by sites and experts like FanGraphs, BA, BP, and John Sickels.

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        • Wilson

          13 years ago

          yes and that is because of the mlb-ready talent, or lack thereof. Guys like KLaw have stated, that the lower you go is when it gets very interesting. Most of those guys have put a disclaimer on their rankings acknowledging that the system is in line for a real bump up their lists in the next year or two. which is essentially what my post implied. 

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    • nm344

      13 years ago

      What exactly are you expecting? People jumping off bridges? 

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      • WolandJR

        13 years ago

        Considering the behavior of some phillies fans… maybe…

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  4. $24144853

    13 years ago

    “Cole Hamels” come on down your the next contestant on the price is right!!!

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  5. monkeydung

    13 years ago

    “Hey Cole. It’s me, Earvin. What are you doing for Thanksgiving? You heading back home to Southern California? No? Why not? I”ll pay. Just stop by my place in LA on the way out here. I want to talk to you about something.”

    Reply
  6. jondogg2010

    13 years ago

    4/$80 with 5th year team option @ $23 MM 6th player option $23MM= Potential of 6 years 126MM

    Reply
  7. Chays Utley

    13 years ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised by an exact duplicate of Cliff Lee’s deal.

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    • Michael Gardiner

      13 years ago

      It will more than likely be more given A) Hamels is a WS MVP, B) Hamels was better than Lee last year, and C) Hamels is 4 years younger than Lee.

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      • nm344

        13 years ago

        A) CY Young > WS MVP B) Not true C) yes.

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        • Phillies_Aces35

          13 years ago

          A) Neither really that important. The World Series MVP should matter more to the Phillies because Cole Hamels almost single handedly won them a title.
          B) Debatable. Cliff put up better numbers but Hamels was more consistent and has been throughout his career. Hamels is more likely to throw a better game than Cliff is… he’s hot or cold. Hamels is steady.

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          • vtadave

            13 years ago

            Hamels pitched 13 innings and while he was very good in those 13 innings, that’s a far cry from being a one-man show in that series.  Ryan Howard hit 3 home runs, Utley a couple, and Werth was on base 14 times in 5 games.

            Reply
    • Hey Mama

      13 years ago

      I am predicting a 5 year 110 million with some kind of player option.

      Reply
  8. Josh Bresser

    13 years ago

    If this happened, The Phillies would have 65-70 million locked up on their Top 3 pitchers alone.

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    • CC 2

      13 years ago

      Top 3 pitchers in the MLB

      Reply
      • vtadave

        13 years ago

        I beg to differ.

        – C. Kershaw

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    • hoagiebuchanan

      13 years ago

      This would be a problem if their last names weren’t Halladay, Lee, and Hamels.

      Reply
    • Phillies_Aces35

      13 years ago

      Well… they’re very good.

      Reply
  9. ZitosFastball

    13 years ago

    The majority of us are just happy to have he chance with a new owner. It’s easy to be condescending on the internet, but do everyone else a favor and chill out.

    Reply
  10. 55saveslives

    13 years ago

    It will be interesting to see how close Cole and Cain’s contracts are.

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    • legaryd

      13 years ago

      Cole Hamels lefty, Matt Cain righty.  Number of lefties with $100 million+ contracts: 6.  Number of righties with $100 million+ contracts: 1.  Cain will get the dollars per year, but teams will shy away from the years.  He’ll probably get $100 million, but not much over.

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