The Phillies know how much it will cost to lock Cole Hamels up to an extension, and the sides appear to be making progress toward a long-term deal, Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com reports. No deadline exists, but Opening Day looms as an unofficial turning point for the negotiations.
One person tells Salisbury that the Phillies are prepared to pay the left-hander in excess of $20MM per season on a multiyear deal. However, contract length is an issue, as the Phillies prefer a four-year agreement, while Hamels and agent John Boggs want more.
Another person said talks have been progressing and predicted the sides will reach an agreement. This means there’s still a chance the Phillies will keep Hamels off of the open market and away from potential bidders like the Dodgers and Yankees. The 28-year-old is on track to hit free agency after the 2012 season.
I only have this to say: as a Dodger fan, it’s a beautiful thing to see the words, “potential bidders like the Dodgers and Yankees” on the bottom of this post, right where they should be.
Now have fun enjoying your 50% raises in ticket prices.
That’s not going to happen, at least not until the Dodgers fields a team on par with the Yanks/Phillies/Redsox and at that point I think fans would be ok with 50% increase (though thats still an exaggeration)
Dodgers tend to drastically raise prices on premium seats only; the big money to be made is on an impending TV deal.
Exactly. It’s likely the $400 seats will be bumped up to $500 or something, but when you have $400 to spend on a ticket, you certainly have $500. I would venture to guess the majority of the seats would cost the same or slightly more.
Rumor has it that it will cost me $500 a ticket to see Hunger Games at one of Magic’s theaters. This will be after I drop $275 on a Grande Latte and biscotti.
As a fellow long-suffering Dodger fan, it’s about time…!
If he replicates his numbers from last season, I don’t see him signing anything less than a 6 year deal ($20MM AAV). He’s young (28), reliable, and left-handed.
pretty good chance he gets that before even having to replicate last year’s numbers
I am really interested to see what happens when the Phillies get old, expensive and less competitive relative to the other NL East teams.
well, the low A system, some of which is now in AA, has won a LOT of games including a championship. They have pretty exciting players that are being developed that will be infused along the way. Also they are increasingly involved in foreign scouting. Soler could be a top target of theirs, and soon. I really don’t think, given the massive revenue that they generate, that there will be the falloff that rival nl east teams are hoping for.
Thank you for the insights. Very helpful info re: the minor league system.
The system is typically ranked between 20th and 25th by sites and experts like FanGraphs, BA, BP, and John Sickels.
yes and that is because of the mlb-ready talent, or lack thereof. Guys like KLaw have stated, that the lower you go is when it gets very interesting. Most of those guys have put a disclaimer on their rankings acknowledging that the system is in line for a real bump up their lists in the next year or two. which is essentially what my post implied.
What exactly are you expecting? People jumping off bridges?
Considering the behavior of some phillies fans… maybe…
“Cole Hamels” come on down your the next contestant on the price is right!!!
“Hey Cole. It’s me, Earvin. What are you doing for Thanksgiving? You heading back home to Southern California? No? Why not? I”ll pay. Just stop by my place in LA on the way out here. I want to talk to you about something.”
4/$80 with 5th year team option @ $23 MM 6th player option $23MM= Potential of 6 years 126MM
I wouldn’t be surprised by an exact duplicate of Cliff Lee’s deal.
It will more than likely be more given A) Hamels is a WS MVP, B) Hamels was better than Lee last year, and C) Hamels is 4 years younger than Lee.
A) CY Young > WS MVP B) Not true C) yes.
A) Neither really that important. The World Series MVP should matter more to the Phillies because Cole Hamels almost single handedly won them a title.
B) Debatable. Cliff put up better numbers but Hamels was more consistent and has been throughout his career. Hamels is more likely to throw a better game than Cliff is… he’s hot or cold. Hamels is steady.
Hamels pitched 13 innings and while he was very good in those 13 innings, that’s a far cry from being a one-man show in that series. Ryan Howard hit 3 home runs, Utley a couple, and Werth was on base 14 times in 5 games.
I am predicting a 5 year 110 million with some kind of player option.
If this happened, The Phillies would have 65-70 million locked up on their Top 3 pitchers alone.
Top 3 pitchers in the MLB
I beg to differ.
– C. Kershaw
This would be a problem if their last names weren’t Halladay, Lee, and Hamels.
Well… they’re very good.
The majority of us are just happy to have he chance with a new owner. It’s easy to be condescending on the internet, but do everyone else a favor and chill out.
It will be interesting to see how close Cole and Cain’s contracts are.
Cole Hamels lefty, Matt Cain righty. Number of lefties with $100 million+ contracts: 6. Number of righties with $100 million+ contracts: 1. Cain will get the dollars per year, but teams will shy away from the years. He’ll probably get $100 million, but not much over.
Congrats you officially a hater. Us Dodgers and Yankees fans have a very hard time hearing Philly fans. Probably because all our world series are making to much noise. The Phillies still stuck on only two world series right?
I’m pretty sure Dodger fan’s have been talking about him for a while regardless of the sale. I can’t wait to watch the Philly fanbases jaw drop when Hamels leaves via FA. The truth is unless your in the FO you really have no clue what the outcome is going to be. Your comments are just asinine and short sighted, because for some reason your bitter that other fans want elite talent on there respective teams. By the way I could care less about any spelling or grammatical mistakes.
If the Phillies re-sign him, good for them. But you’re dead wrong if you think we’re going to “drop our jaw”
Only way I’d drop my jaw, is if he becomes the highest paid pitcher in MLB history.
@MasterJedi-Yoda-As a die hart Yankees fan i too would like to see Philly and the Giants sign those pitches.Not every Yankee fan wants to see the Yankees sign all the best players!
aren’t you a beaut…
well to the dodgers when was the time you won a championship in 88? Most of your world series came in the 60’s??? Yea you probably werent even alive when they won a majority of the world series
I’ve been to Philly many times, and that’s simply not true.
yeah, the fact the only comeback you had was for my spelling says a lot. Im glad people in Philly can spell,”We may only have two championships” was written perfectly. Congrats!!!!!
two “fans” did something really stupid and awful. that has nothing to do with spelling or grammar, though. also somebody in Philly threw up on a little girl – on purpose.
also, I don’t mind people from Philly. it’s the punks from South Jersey who are hard to be around.
“I hope I answered your question.”
You answered nothing, MasterJedi_Yoda.
Trying to say that there is some kind of sine wave of baseball success is misguided at best. You have some teams that are able to sustain success for long periods of time for a variety of reasons (strong farm systems, excellent player development, astute trades, smart contracts, and/or deep pockets) and others that are bad for ages and ages (e.g. baltimore and pittsburgh). What is going to be interesting is to see what how the Phillies are able to deal with Howard’s terrible contract, a possible breakdown with any of their surprisingly durable aces, Utley and Rollin’s continued declines, CF, etc. Teams with really big revenue streams, like the phillies have, can withstand a few bad contracts, but there are going to be a lot of holes in their line-up within the next couple years that they are going to have to plug. There is a real chance that the wheels just fall off this team and it gets handcuffed by multiple $20 mil/year commitments to players past their prime.
It will be interesting to see if Amaro does to plug these holes. Does he throw good money after bad? Does the farm system start producing cost controlled quality players? Does Amaro make some awesome trades to free up payroll? To me personally, I think that whole process of roster management is going to be very interesting.
In 20 years attending games I’ve never had a problem. If you try to pick a fight at any teams stadium, however, you’re asking for trouble.
You “Hear” a lot but don’t know much. Dude your not even talking about baseball anymore. Your just trying to talk smack. when ever you come up with an intelligent baseball comment please let us know.
“To all you Dodgers fans (came out of the woodwork today after the sale, I
see) and Yankees fans, I can’t wait to watch both of your fanbases drop
your jaws when the Phillies resign Cole Hamels” You were not summing up your thoughts. You wanted to talk smack.
victorino is gone. utley is old. howard is old. rollins is old. if the phil’s spend that much on hamels, who will hit for them?
“the force is not strong with this one”
Yeah i wasn’t alive. what does that have to do with our six world series titles? As a team you always want a historic past, unlike the Phillies who didn’t win there first until 1982. That means they didn’t do anything for the first 100 years of baseball. Enjoy your two. ill keep my six.
With Philly’s starters, you could field the 2011 Reading Phillies and win a wild card spot!
Domonic Brown.
just deal with it. as a dodger fan, i’d love hamels, but im not counting at it. you’re feeling how i felt about MLBTR bringing up Kemp’s name in potential trade candidates topics and seeing braves fans and jays fans and yankee fans talk about getting him. once he signed that extension, it was awesome. if hamels stays in philly, cool. but hopefully he reaches FA
“the Force is STRONG with this one” very well put dude. Your right Dodgers fans have been talking Cole Hamels for a while now but because of the ownership to us it was all hopes and pipe dreams. Now that we have new ownership in place we can finally start talking about free agent players, trades, extensions etc.
If you’re going to criticize… at least know what you’re talking about.
As a team you always want a historic past, unlike the Phillies who didn’t win there first until 1982.
It was 1980.
wow i was way off. Im sorry. They didn’t do anything for the first 98 years of Baseball. Thanks for the correction.
Dodger fans want to talk history, but only under their rules…They say Dodgers have more W.S. titles than the Giants, but when I say NO it’s actually tied 6-6…they only count LA and SF. Some history buffs!!
They had a pretty solid offense when Chase came off the DL last year.
102 wins last year best in baseball, that means in 102 games the Phils scored more!
Oh yeah we all be crying if we don’t get Cole Hamels. I guess we just have to settle with every other prime free agent out there. In the mean time the Phillies will get Hamels and the rest of the team will get older. Your right your offense is amazing. You guys have Utley (hurt) Howard (Hurt) Thome (old) Ibanez (Yankees) But in a small ball park like Citizen’s Bank i guess anything is possible.
Ironically, the person who threw up on that little girl was from South Jersey.
Exactly.