Trade buzz surrounding Shane Victorino has started to pick up, reports Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com. The Reds, Dodgers, Pirates, and Giants all have interest in the outfielder and are scouting the Phillies. Cincinnati also has interest in Juan Pierre.
Victorino, 31, is hitting just .256/.321/.391 this season and will become a free agent this winter. He's owed approximately $6.3MM through the end of the season and thanks to the new collective bargaining agreement, any team that acquires him in a trade will not be eligible to receive draft pick compensation if he signs elsewhere as a free agent.
Teams are also showing interest in Hunter Pence but are being told the price is high according to Salisbury. The Orioles and Blue Jays have also been keeping an eye on Joe Blanton's recent starts.
God AA…please don’t trade for Blanton. He will get lit up in the AL East.
You do realize he pitched better in the AL than the NL. Also 7 of 8 complete games have come against AL teams.
Blanton’s a funny one. He’ll give 6innings and 4 ER most nights, except he’ll have a string of just getting absolutely lit up for about 3 games, then back to his standard, then he’ll have two games where he’s lights out and then back to his baseline of 6IP and 4ER. He’s consistently inconsistent, but more often then not, he’ll give you 2 out 3 where he’s decent enough to win on a good team with rare bouts of greatest and rare bouts of utter suckitude. Fortunately he’s been mostly durable throughout his career, save for last year. If you team needs a back end of the rotation guy who can give you some innings and he won’t cost much prospect wise, you could do worse that Fat Joe.
6 innings and 4 ER is an ERA of 6.00.
Hmm….so it is. Make it 6 and 2/3 and 3 to 4 er on average. That might be closer. Of course he does have those weird games like once a month where he’ll go 8 and give up 1 or less so that may make up a bit on the ERA. He’s basically a 4-4.5 era pitcher give or take. Lil higher this year.
Blanton could easily fit in as a #4 for someone.
I’d rather have Victorino here in Cincy over Juan.
He’s a switch hitter that can hit homeruns on both sides. Also, as of 07/28/2012, made his first error since 2010.
He’s had plenty of bone head plays that should’ve been classified as errors. Errors for an outfielder is probably the most meaningless stat beyond wins.
Vic has more power but is going to cost you much more though. Pierre on the other hand is much better suited to lead off and should come very cheep.
While it is true that Victorino has had a down year, he has really picked it up since the All Star break. Since then he is hitting .333
I would be for Victorino, if we don’t include Gregorius, Corcino, Cingrani, H Rodriguez, Joseph, Hoover, Hamilton in ANY deals. No top prospect for a rental who is struggling. And he is not a lead off hitter, so why would Cincy want him?Just let Xavier Paul be the LH OF on the bench, when Votto returns, DFA Cairo and be done with it. Move BP to 1 and Ludwick to 4, problems solved. We don’t trade anyone and we make our team better
He may be struggling but he’s an upgrade over Drew Stubbs… and the odds are he’s going to bounce back, which if his numbers after the all star break (small sample size, I know) are an indication… he’s doing just that.
He Is not a bad leadoff hitter. Phillies will want BP help and low level upside guys.
I’m not huge on Victorino, possibly if we gave up little in return.
A return of Logan Ondrusek really doesn’t get much worse from a Phillies standpoint.
Your bullpen couldn’t use a RP who hits mid 90s with a nasty split? 3.13 era and under control through 2015 for cheap. You won’t get that much value back for an overpaid OF who is a rental on a down year overall even though he has picked it up lately.
Despite his ERA, he’s not very good.
4.6 bb/9
6.0 k/9
with a 1.4 WHIP… he’s exactly the type of reliever we DON’T need and already have plenty of.
Overpaid? Rube will eat the money left on his deal.
Get it done tonight because One NL official says that in general, it’s quiet in the trade market today — like the calm before the storm, he said.
Joe Blanton has the best winning percentage of any starting pitcher in MLB post trade deadline- since 2008. He turns into a beast the second half of seasons.
Victorino can really help a team down the stretch run. Pierre is more of a complimenatry piece, gives you good AB’s , steals bases, slaps the ball around, but is kind of a liability in the field at this point
I am a Phillies fan, but to be honest If I were a team like Cincinnati that already has a lineup with a good amount of power, then I go for a Juan Pierre instead of Victorino. Both are rentals, but Pierre would cost a lot less not just in terms of prospects, but salary…Victorino is owed $ 6.3 mil through the rest of the year while Pierre started the year with a Minor League Contract and is owed hardly anything in terms of salary and would be much easier to resign if they desired. Pierre also is batting well over .300 this year..albeit mostly against right handers but his OBP and stolen bases would make a huge impact at the leadoff spot for a team like Cincinatti, rather than overpaying Victorino is a switch-hitter with speed, a good arm and some pop..but he is not a true lead off hitter batting .253 with a relatively low OBP in terms of other lead off hitters around the league. I am actually hoping the Phils trade Victorino for a young reliever and a solid prospect while also getting rid of his salary. I think his best years are behind him and if by some miracle the Phillies were to go on a run and get into the WC race, Victorino’s production thus far can be easily replaced, but I could be wrong and maybe he will light it up if he gets traded?
First of all, Victorino is not owed 6.3 million on his 9.5 million contract – it’s the other way around – he’s owed about 3.2 million. The Phillies will almost certainly pay the salary difference between Victorino and whoever they acquire.
I would not be interested in Ondrusek, who fits the profile of the already poor bullpen – a tall guy who throws hard and somehow doesn’t strike out nearly as many guys as you think he should. If Ondrusek is the best major leaguer reliever offered, the Phils must insist on J.J. Hoover also – who will end up being better than Ondrusek.
Brad Lincoln would look even better here – but that would be a bitter pill…Phillies “selling” to Pirates. Ugh.
Dodgers have several relievers who would look good here – probably Josh Lindblom at the top of that list, but maybe Belisario or Guerra. Maybe if the Dodgers ate almost all of Juan Uribe’s money through 2013, the Phils would take him along with one of the relievers.
Giants don’t seem to match up well with Phils, since it’s said Giants are also looking for bullpen help and won’t deal any arms. Maybe Nate Schierholtz and a minor league arm (Heath Hembree?) would get the job done.
Brad Lincoln looks just fine where he is.
And get over yourself. “Phillies “selling” to the Pirates.”
I have to think the Pirates are more interested in Pence than Victorino at this point. They just called up Starling Marte and the Bucs wouldn’t have done that if they weren’t committing to him as a leadoff/table setter from here on out. Besides which, Huntington has said if he’s going to sacrifice prospects, he strongly prefers getting players with multiple years left on their contract instead of rentals. Pence would fit their needs and criteria much better. Of course, it’s all moot until the Phillies come down off their ridiculous asking prices.
the Phillies would want Marte in a Pence deal. And I dont understand why you think its a ridiculous asking price when a year ago they traded a better prospect to the astros in Singleton than what Marte is.
For all the Pirates fans, you guys know that in trades especially at the deadline you will have to give up alot unless you’re eating alot of salary, which the Pirates won’t do. Therfore, if you want Pence or Victorino, who are both all star caliber OFs when they’re on their game, you will have to give up two young, promising players. That’s just the way trades happen at the deadline and Amaro, I actually believe is determined to get a good haul for both those guys considering what he’s done to the farm the past couple years. The Phillies aren’t just going to take the guys you don’t want, which seems to be what almost all of you think will happen and if that’s the case with the Pirates front office too, the Pirates might end up with just Wandy.