The Reds are among the teams showing interest in Juan Pierre, reports ESPN's Buster Olney (on Twitter). The Phillies have not yet indicated a willingness to sell, but that won't stop clubs from calling.
Pierre, 34, is hitting a solid .317/.355/.387 with 20 steals in 23 chances while taking over Philadelphia's left field job on an everyday basis. Cincinnati is said to be seeking a leadoff hitter type, and Pierre certainly fits the bill.
I don’t even know what a fair return for this guy is. A Jim Thome type package would be fine with me. Maybe a relief pitcher? Great signing. We got good value out of him while he played for us and could turn him into a top 20 or two top 30 prospects.
How about Nick Christiani?
I would be fine with Nick Christiani for Juan Pierre
Exactly. Great signing indeed. It’s not like Pierre is going to be a part of the long term vision for the Phillies (assuming they have one).
And I think you are correct to suggest that Juan Pierre can get an even better return than Thome.
Then trade Hamels for Boujos + a B prospect (grab more if possible).
Trade Victorino for a good MLB-ready-pitching prospect. Throw in some
money to facilitate the deal. Perhaps the Pirates or Indians?
Bon Voyage! As a Phils fan I’d be happy if they sold off Juan, Ty, Fotenout, Shane, (eating a chunk of salary on who you have too) ala Polanco, Blanton. just to get as many C or D prospects as possible and hope 1 or 2 turn out to be descent. If they don’t have Cole signed soon sorry to say but they have to deal him. Ruben has made bad move after bad move since the 2010 offseason.
The Phillies have some decent prospects, but they’re all at the earlier
stages of minor league ball. I would want more than just C and D
prospects; perhaps some MLB-ready prospects to help fill the void, and
some high upside younger prospects should be better.
off course I’d love to have A-B prospects but we can not expect those type of guys for 2 months of guys like Juan, Ty, Fot, Polly, Joe, we’d be lucky to get a couple bags of balls for these grizzled vets
I think that they should get more than a low level prospect for pierre. He could really be a game changer at the top of alot of lineups.
I’d love to have Pierre on the Reds he’d help tremendously!
Or we could have signed him in the offseason and gotten him for free (prospect wise). Or we could have signed DeJesus with the same mantra. Instead, we got Ludwick.
Hopefully RAJ makes the right moves at the deadline.
As a Reds fan, I’m curious what a Philly fan would consider for us to acquire Pierre.
Anything with a pulse would be fine.
Word of advice, please don’t think Pierre will help against LHP. Those splits are UGLY!!
It’s gotta be better than anything Stubbs is doing he is on a 0 for 33 streak I believe now. His average is bout to drop below .200
1-33 now!
Hey Reds fans we’d love Frasier but that’s probably a pipe dream for Juan but what about Heisey? I’ve always liked he’s still somewhat young and has an option(s). Curious to know more about Heisey from people who seen him alot. He seems to have reverse splits guess that explains the Ludwick move this offseason.
Would a Heisey for Pierre be fair?
Sorry but from this Reds fan I’d have to pass. This is actually difficult for me to find a player from the Reds that I’d feel comfortable parting with. How about Janish and Christiani?
YOur NOT getting Heisey for Pierre, sorry.. We will trade you back Wilson Valdez for Pierre though
Heisey for Pierre now would be under the doubtful column. Pierre 10 even 5 years ago plus a C-B prospect for Heisey would be better foreseeable. As far as what you’ll get from Heisey from a Phillie fan standpoint at full potential would be Jayson Werth circa 200 (.273/24/67/20SB). Great defense, and decent arm. He’s more or less a second half kinda guy. Takes him a month or two to get in a groove. IF given the chance (and with OUR manager he never will) he could be a potential all-star
Reds need a lead-off man?They need a 4 hole man who plays either 3b,cf,orlf.
The Reds 1 and 2 hitters have an OBP below .300 so the top of the order is more urgent. Phillips is a serviceable 4 hole hitter. Bruce would be better, but hitting back to back lefties is against the Dusty baseball rule book.
The frustrating thing is I believe the offense could be cured in house with a lineup of Phillips, Hanigan, Votto, Frazier, Bruce, Cozart, Stubbs
You think the Reds DON’T need a leadoff hitter??
I just don’t understand why we didn’t sign Pierre early this year on a minor league deal, instead of trading someone to acquire him. I will tell you that the Reds will NOT trade much to get him, maybe a C level prospect, NOTHING worth much value
Let the Reds eat 70% of the money and take Rolen back! 3b and a 4 hole guy…lol
Have fun with a .200 hitting 4-hole guy. Coming from a Reds fan, he is done sadly. He has been injured basically all year (including back spasms for the last week). He had a nice career, but it will come to an end very very soon.
this would be a good pick up for the Orioles if he could be had for a low level prospect or two
Another EXACTLY like him is about to be available and even fields much better than Pierre, has better xbh ability, though is older. Namen ze? Scott Podsednik.. He has the speed, even fields better and will be cheaper even.
Just coming back from an injury. .400OBP and .900 OPS in 70PA this year.. Not bad for a 36YO guy.
yeah based on .424 BABIP. He’s OPS’d .524 in the minors this season. There is a reason Pierre beat him out in spring training.
Yeah. Pods wasn’t hot at Pawsox either. he did really well for Boston until he got hurt and is about ready to come back again.
Somebody will give up a really low prospect for him then. He has the same skill set as Pierre, only better glove.. Tad less speed since he has gotten older.. 36 now without looking it up, but had like 6 sb in his stay with boston.
now if only there were 25 juan pierres someone besides ozzie guillen would be happy.
I’d Deal Kyle Lotzkar For Pierre.
Turn Around And Then Deal Heisey/Stubbs, Corcino,
No. Stop.
No way would the Reds give up Heisey, Lotzkar or Frazier for Pierre. The Phillies should expect a AAA bullpen arm or at most, Paul Janish.
Homer Bailey and I love Bailey, Stubbs, and Lotzkar for Pierre and Cole Hamels
Homer Bailey and I love Homer Bailey, Lotzkar, and Stubbs for Cole Hamels and Pierre
Haha.
Agre with the Haha
How about.. Stubbs, Alfredo Simon, Leake, Paul Janish, Rolen and Corcino for Victorino, Polanco and Hamels?
I don’t like this at all as a Reds fan. I think the lead off spot would be just fine this year if we could get a #4 batter to protect Votto and move Phillips to #1. He’s not going to steal a lot of bases, but look what he did late last year as the 1 hitter. I could see it making more sense if Cole Hamels was included for some prospects and a Homer Bailey or Mike Leake.
I would be satisfied with the trade for victorino, hamels, and polanco as long as reds only have to give up stubbs, rolen and corcino, what bout you guys?