The Red Sox are lagging behind a few teams in their attempts to acquire Matt Garza from the Cubs, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports (Twitter links). Not everyone in Boston's front office believes Garza would be an upgrade over the team's existing options.
Though the Red Sox are drawing lots of interest in Cody Ross, they aren't interested in moving him unless they're getting a ton in return for him Cafardo reports. Ross, 31, signed a one-year, $3MM contract with the Red Sox this past offseason. The right-handed hitter has a .274/.348/.570 batting line with 16 home runs in 254 plate appearances.
They want a “ton” in return for an impending FA…
If someone really wants to give up some decent prospects for a rentaplayer, why wouldn’t they?
This will be an interesting trade deadline with so many mediocre teams in contention for the WC2.
I should have clarified; they want a ton for impending FA Cody Ross.
He was so valuable last offseason, that he signed a 1 year deal for $3M. That puts him in the ballpark of Ryan Ludwig, Casey Blake and Luke Scott in terms of value, yet the Red Socks want a “ton”. Value expectations are insane…either that or terrible reporting…
His impending FA status is not referenced, because they aren’t looking to move him. He’s staying, unless they are overwhelmed. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Haha just saw how much play this comment/thread got. The disconnect here is that I see Boston as sellers at the deadline. They may be .500, but they’re not even the third best team in their division, let alone competitive for a wild card the way they’re playing now. Their pitching is brutal and will need a massive improvement from Beckett and Lester to have any chance.
When you factor in that the Red Sox are leading the league in runs, and just got two start OF back from the DL, it would be dumb for them not to trade a journeyman like Ross while he’s at peak value. I’d take just about anyone in return for him…and probably wouldn’t hurt the team at all….
How much value have Ludwig, Blake, or Scott had to their teams?
Value at the trade deadline is completely different to value during the offseason.
Losing Ross from their line-up would be a major blow, thus he has major value. Does he have more value to the Red Sox than a Joe Schmo middle reliever? Yup. A middling prospect? Yes. A Journeyman player (like himself) who is not producing at such a level? Yup.
It would would take a ton to move him. Would any team give a ton? Nope.
The post never said the Red Sox “want a ton.” It says they don’t want to trade him and would need a ton to be convinced to trade a guy that has been invaluable to their lineup.
hough the Red Sox are drawing lots of interest in Cody Ross, they aren’t interested in moving him **unless they’re getting a ton in return for him** Cafardo reports”.
Couple of things…
It’s coming from a reporter and is not a quote from a front office person so….take Cadardo’s word if you want.
Also, the term “ton in return” is subjective. I mean Josh Hamilton is a FA for the Rangers and I’m sure they would use the word “ton in return” to trade him. I’m sure that even if Boston does want a “ton in return” for Ross that most of us would agree that the level of return would represent their realistic value and not what they might be doing right now.
No team is going to value RA Dickey the same way they do a Hamels even if they both might be posting similar numbers. One can’t help but wonder when Cody Ross might turn back into the real Cody Ross, and teams will offer accordingly. Whether Boston bites depends on what their perception is for a “ton” in return for a journeyman on a 1 year 3 mil deal.
Or they don’t want to trade him so it would take a serious overpay to pry him away. He also passed up on multi-year offers to take the one year deal with Boston.
That’s just the way Henry and Lucchino and their puppet GM think.
Why would they trade him for anything less when he is a huge part of their team right now? They have no reason to trade him, so obviously they would want some good value if they were to do so……..which isn’t going to happen to begin with so it is basically non-news.
Yeah of course. Why wouldn’t they? Ross is a beast vs LHP and he’s a big bat in that lineup, and he makes $3mm. They have zero reason to move him unless they are overwhelmed.
because they’re contenders and have no real reason to trade him.
So if they see themselves as “real” contenders then why would they consider trading him????
Because they aren’t considering trading him?
because someone offered a ton in return
see? full circle. if no one offers a ton, they won’t be considering it
If they were offered a ton, why didn’t they trade him then?
It is amazing what shows up here without the facts.
Ross has stated several times over the last 2 weeks that he wants to remain in Boston.
If they do move Ross they are left with a huge tilt to the left with hitters. That leaves just pretty much Pedroia (2 DL stints in the last month +) and Middlebrooks as the real threats.
They would lose more than could possibly gain, even if somehow they *could* get a top prospect (not likely) in return.
they need to resign him!
some could argue the 2nd WC puts less ppl in post season in contention since the 2 wc teams only have 1 chance to make the playoffs so now its sort of a double edge sword. i think teams will get use to this new rule and will be more willing to sell even though they may be close to the 2nd WC spot
Maybe I heard wrong but I think earlier today on sportscenter Buster Olney said the red sox were front runners for Garza.
Cody Ross was definitely one of the best low risk signings this Offseason.
He went from Willie Mays Hays warning track power to Bat Flip Ross the Boss!
Ross is what he is, an incredibly streaky hitter who crushes lefties. He just happens to be in the midst of one of his hot streaks. Something tells me the flip side of his streakiness will be rearing its ugly head soon. Getting a valuable prospect in return may be the best route to go if the Sox are satisfied with their outfield depth going forward.
He has hit very consistently all year long. Granted right now he has taken it to a whole other level but he has been good all year without anything resembling a slump.
Apr 5 – May 9 (29 games): .250/.308/.463/.771May 11 – Present (34 games): .296/.383/.670/1.053
As you can see, his first 29 games were essentially in line with his career numbers. His hot streak has been extended, but you would be crazy to expect him to keep this up. Cody Ross is a 3rd/4th outfielder that gets very hot at times, nothing more. In fact, his cold streaks are a similar extreme as what he is experiencing now…
He is definitely not a 4th outfielder…hes played well this year, he hustles and he has been clutch. On another note the Red Sox kind of need him because right now he is making up for Agon’s lack of power.
Not so much Agon’s lack of power, but Ortiz’ being on the DL. Gonzo has hit a couple of HR’s lately, but Papi won’t be hitting any while he’s on the DL.
Amazing what happens when Ross plays in a stadium that plays up to his LF/LCF power isn’t it? Rather than dead places, like SF and Land Shark stadium..
Called Ross to put up huge numbers at fenway before he signed and have been an advocate for him coming to Fenway for years.. 1st time he has ever played at a home park even resembling offensively favorable, yet people want to say it is because he is streaky?
He has hit for power all season long.
Amazing what happens when guys like Ross get away from morgue stadiums isn’t it??
I love Cody Ross and he’s a perfect fit for Fenway and the Red Sox…. But if they’re offered a B+ or A-pitching prospect(which they won’t) why not?
If they could convert Ross into pieces for a Garza deal, I wouldn’t be upset.
Don’t trade Cody Ross, sign him for next year!
Given the amount of teams that are buyers and need power, if the cubs gave Garza for Ross that would be the only way I would hope he got traded. Not a pipe dream, it’s reality when you have the product people need.
Pipe dream. The cubs aren’t trading for anyone that’s a free agent. Smh