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Corey Hart Weighing Options

By charliewilmoth | December 11, 2013 at 12:46pm CDT

12:46pm: The Mariners are indeed in on Hart, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, who notes that GM Jack Zduriencik drafted Hart when he was Milwaukee's scouting director back in 2000.

12:38pm: USA Today's Bob Nightengale tweets that Hart is torn between re-signing with the Brewers or signing with another team, which could be the Mariners.

9:39am: Hart is currently weighing offers from multiple teams, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (on Twitter).

WEDNESDAY, 7:24am: The Brewers are still waiting on word from Hart, but feel like they've done all they can do and are optimistic about their chances, tweets Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

TUESDAY, 8:25pm: Free agent first baseman Corey Hart could agree to terms with a team tonight, MLB.com's Adam McCalvy tweets. Earlier this week, a report indicated that the Brewers were prioritizing re-signing Hart. They also have a need at first base. Hart, meanwhile, has said he would be willing to take less money to stay in Milwaukee.

Hart missed the 2013 season and has recently had surgeries on both knees. He hit .270/.334/.507 for the Brewers in 2012. The Brewers currently have Juan Francisco atop their depth chart at first base.

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  1. LazerTown

    12 years ago

    Someone would really like take a flyer on. He could be a real deal, and get qo end year.

    Reply
  2. Tommets

    12 years ago

    I wonder what other teams are in the running for him.

    Reply
    • Stevil

      12 years ago

      Seattle would seem to be in the running. They need a DH, they need right handed bats, they need a deal with a low base salary so they can still afford to address other holes. Hart makes a lot of sense for them.

      Reply
    • Dbacksfan44

      12 years ago

      He would take a discount for the Brewers, so they would probably be in the running

      Reply
      • Stevil

        12 years ago

        Well, yeah. It’s in the article. Of course the Brewers are interested.

        Reply
  3. Matt Galvin

    12 years ago

    Rays or Pirates.

    Reply
    • Dave Pierce

      12 years ago

      Pirates? Don’t see the fit.

      Reply
  4. Dbacksfan44

    12 years ago

    I say Brewers resign him

    Reply
  5. RoadWarriorUSCA

    12 years ago

    I say the Brewers resign him.

    Reply
  6. drwheelock

    12 years ago

    I want Seattle to land him bad!

    Reply
    • skrockij89

      12 years ago

      Jack Z drafted him while he was in Milwaukee. So it would make sense.

      Reply
    • Nick Beahm

      12 years ago

      He would be a perfect fit for DH/1B as a right handed hitter with power. We need someone for the role that Kendrys played last season and I would prefer we let Kendrys walk and sign with someone else and get a draft pick and pick up Hart.

      Reply
    • Nick Beahm

      12 years ago

      He would be a perfect fit for DH/1B as a right handed hitter with power. We need someone for the role that Kendrys played last season and I would prefer we let Kendrys walk and sign with someone else and get a draft pick and pick up Hart.

      Reply
    • tedsfrozenhead

      12 years ago

      yup, a player with 2 bad knees and didn’t play last year is just what Seattle needs

      Reply
  7. N.K.T.

    12 years ago

    Hope it’s Pittsburgh, they need something

    Reply
  8. AlphaICaesar

    12 years ago

    Mets should be in the mix.

    Reply
    • BadBJay

      12 years ago

      I was thinking the exact same thing… but they already spent their savings on Granderson haha.

      Reply
      • AlphaICaesar

        12 years ago

        Don’t the Coupons have a coupon?

        Reply
        • BadBJay

          12 years ago

          I can’t verify this but I think Granderson paid for his salmon dinner with Alderson.

          Reply
          • AlphaICaesar

            12 years ago

            Best Sizzler meal ever.

            Reply
          • AlphaICaesar

            12 years ago

            Alderson filled up on free breadsticks.

            Reply
          • Robert Mango

            12 years ago

            well, u can say that, or you can say the yankees bought that meal, i mean he did get paid around $15 million last year and watched all abut a couple of games on TV

            Reply
      • Tommets

        12 years ago

        Not exactly. They only have a $75 mil payroll and Sandy said it will be over last year’s which was $84 mil

        Reply
        • BadBJay

          12 years ago

          Just playing around. But I don’t pay attention to what Alderson says. It’s the other 10 Met GMs you have to listen to.

          Reply
          • AlphaICaesar

            12 years ago

            I think they need to bring in Hart or Morales. Collins was on Zaun today saying they need someone to drive in runs from the 1 bag, and those two could fit the bill.

            Reply
            • Tommets

              12 years ago

              I think something is going to happen at 1B and then they’re going to trade Davis/Duda in a package for a SS or pitching.

              Reply
              • AlphaICaesar

                12 years ago

                They really don’t want Tejada out there, so I wouldn’t be surprised if something happened there.

                Reply
                • Tommets

                  12 years ago

                  I hope so.

                  Reply
            • BadBJay

              12 years ago

              Ick. Morales needs to stay on the west coast. If the Mets sign him, the fans will have a bonfire at CitiField… the bad kind.

              Reply
              • AlphaICaesar

                12 years ago

                You’re assuming fans are going to CitiField, which is yet to be proven.

                Reply
          • Tommets

            12 years ago

            I hear ya.

            Reply
  9. heemtj

    12 years ago

    Seems pretty obvious he will be a Brewer. A player of his caliber willing to take a discount to stay makes it a no brainer on Milwaukees end.

    Reply
    • Nick Beahm

      12 years ago

      Seemed pretty obvious that Cano was just using the Mariners and never really considered them…

      Reply
      • Mil8Ball

        12 years ago

        Thank you for comparing Hart who is looking at a 3mil gap to Cano…who got 75mil more from the Mariners. Way different

        Reply
        • Nick Beahm

          12 years ago

          Haha I’m not saying Hart is basically Cano… I was saying free agency is completely random and unpredictable. I believe Hart will be Brewer, certainly sounds like he enjoys it there. I just think he would LOVE it in Seattle is all, as in I want the Mariners to sign him.

          Reply
          • Robert Mango

            12 years ago

            or maybe he’s saying h’ell take less to stay in MIL to drive up his price to other teams. Like they can’t just barely beat the Brewers, they’ll have ot put a few more million on the contract to get him.

            Reply
          • Nick Beahm

            12 years ago

            Success.

            Reply
    • Nick Beahm

      12 years ago

      Seemed pretty obvious that Cano was just using the Mariners and never really considered them…

      Reply
  10. Jeffy25

    12 years ago

    I can see cards surprising here….

    Reply
  11. rovert22044

    12 years ago

    This would be a great signing for the Astros. We need a power bat in our lineup. I just don’t see Luhnow making the move. We need pitching more than anything.

    Reply
    • thysonstro

      12 years ago

      Anything to get Wallace off the roster.

      Reply
      • rovert22044

        12 years ago

        This… I have to agree with. haha Wallace is the perfect AAAA player.

        Reply
  12. Justin Anthony

    12 years ago

    Is he willing to play right field in the right situation?

    Reply
    • AlphaICaesar

      12 years ago

      If I had two new knees, I’d probably prefer 1st base for a little bit.

      Reply
    • Benny

      12 years ago

      Who would want to put him in RF?

      Reply
      • Stevil

        12 years ago

        Jack ran Ibanez and Morse in the outfield last season for Seattle. But yeah, he’s a DH at this point.

        Reply
        • toddcoffeytime

          12 years ago

          He’s actually a pretty good first baseman, believe it or not.

          Reply
          • Stevil

            12 years ago

            His stats suggest otherwise.

            Reply
            • daveineg

              12 years ago

              Don’t know which stat you are referring to but the general consensus watching him there in 2012 was that he made a very smooth transition and looked very comfortable there.

              Reply
            • toddcoffeytime

              11 years ago

              What stats? He has played at first for one year, which would not provide a large enough sample to make any conclusions based on UZR, DRS, etc. He does however pass the eye test, which I thought I was implying previously

              Reply
              • Stevil

                11 years ago

                So, you recognize that his UZR and DRS aren’t good, regardless of small sample size, yet he passed your “eye test”. How is that suppose to be convincing for anyone?

                Now you have a guy with one year of experience at 1B who’s missed a year and returns with questions about his knees. Do you really think his defense at first would likely improve?

                Not that it matters, because it appears they don’t intend to play him at 1B.

                Don’t get me wrong, I actually like this signing. And I certainly hope he does well wherever he’s played. But he would seem to be best served as a DH, maybe filling in now and then at 1B or RF.

                Reply
                • toddcoffeytime

                  11 years ago

                  No, I did not recognize that UZR and DRS are bad. They are tools, ones which are most effective when given a 3+ year sample size along with fan/expert scouting reports (aka the eye test).

                  His one year at 1B, which i saw quite a bit of, was pretty good. He’s got a huge reach and made a lot of plays on errant throws that most cannot. Not much to offer as far as range, which i’m sure is still the case after two knee surgeries.

                  I never said he would “likely improve,” just that he’s a pretty good defensive first baseman; which anyone who’s watched him play enough would likely agree with.

                  Reply
                  • Stevil

                    11 years ago

                    HIS UZR and DRS. Keyword: His. And the small sample size was already noted. You’re not going to find an argument from me about advanced stats being tools. That’s exactly what they are. But even with limited games played, it’s still worth examining the numbers.

                    You’re still going back to the eye test. You’re free to do that, but I don’t recall having the same thought. Passable? Maybe. Good? Probably a stretch.

                    Having said that, I’m not a fan of Smoak’s defense. If it were a choice between the two, Hart would get my vote. But I’d prefer to see Smoak shipped, Morrison at 1B, and Hart at DH, with a real center fielder brought in, so Ackley and Saunders can cover the corners.

                    Reply
  13. phillies1102

    12 years ago

    If anyone wondered who is exactly the replacement player when considering WAR, that player is Juan Francisco.

    Reply
  14. mrnatewalter

    12 years ago

    Turning down a higher deal in favor of a lower one in Milwaukee isn’t as big of a deal as it seems… I doubt there’s a big difference in the highest offer and the lowest offers.

    Reply
    • Stevil

      12 years ago

      You’re probably right. With incentives, the offers shouldn’t have much of a gap, even if the base salary is off by a million or three.

      Reply
      • mrnatewalter

        12 years ago

        My thoughts is Hart gets a deal around $3-4 a year… I don’t think anyone is lower than 2/yr or higher than 5/yr…

        Reply
        • Scot Forler

          12 years ago

          No way. someone is going to give him at least 7/year

          Reply
          • mrnatewalter

            12 years ago

            He hasn’t played a game since 2012… he might make 7/yr (if he does, it’s Milwaukee that gives it)… but I wouldn’t give him more than 5.

            Reply
            • Mil8Ball

              12 years ago

              If Milwaukee gives 7mil someone offered more…the Brewers know he will take a discount, they wouldn’t be very smart to be the high bidder.

              Reply
          • Mil8Ball

            12 years ago

            5mil is my guess. His situation is a lot like Shaun Marcum was last year. 5-7mil is a good range though.

            Reply
        • Nick Beahm

          12 years ago

          If Bloomquist gets $2.9 and Morse is demanding $7-9 a year, I doubt Hart will be signed for $3-4 a year

          Reply
        • Novak

          12 years ago

          Most of the predictions I’ve seen with the Brewers signing him have his (discounted) price at 6 or 7 million plus incentives.

          Reply
        • Novak

          12 years ago

          Most of the predictions I’ve seen with the Brewers signing him have his (discounted) price at 6 or 7 million plus incentives.

          Reply
    • Stevil

      12 years ago

      You’re probably right. With incentives, the offers shouldn’t have much of a gap, even if the base salary is off by a million or three.

      Reply
  15. Sam Henzler

    12 years ago

    As much as I would like to see the Pirates as a sleeper, I don’t see it. Not the money, but I think the Pirates are going to grab a lefty first baseman. I would love Hart playing in Pittsburgh. I can see the Giants, Yankees, Brewers, Red Sox, Mariners, and Rays as the fits, personally.

    Reply
    • GetTheRunnerOver

      12 years ago

      Hart would be a good backup for Tex

      Reply
      • Sam Henzler

        12 years ago

        He could also be a pretty good option at DH and Right Field. If the Rangers can’t get Cruz back and don’t want to spend money on Choo, I would think Hart is a better option than Kendrys Morales.

        Reply
  16. d

    12 years ago

    I’ve wondered why he hasn’t been linked to the Rangers. Has the power that Texas wants is cheaper and would actually net Texas a draft pick if they let Cruz walk

    Reply
  17. Bobby A

    12 years ago

    Heard a rumor its the Jays.
    So i guess we wil ltrade lind

    Reply
  18. dc21892

    12 years ago

    If they could hide his defense in LF and his knees are finally healthy, he could be a fit for Boston. Nava would shift to RF,
    Victorino to CF. Not saying it’s the best choice, but it could be an option. I’m kinda hoping we get to see what JBJ is made of though.

    Reply
  19. GetTheRunnerOver

    12 years ago

    I doubt he would ever see the outfield. Especially if Ichiro stays put

    Reply
  20. drwheelock

    12 years ago

    Just not very many power RHB’s out there, and Seattle is desperate for RHBs. I can see Seattle stepping up on this one, and then see Smoak (LHB) dealt in a package deal. And then resigning Morales to DH as a switch hitter for us.

    Reply
    • Tim Bowers

      12 years ago

      That would be dumb. Resigning Morales, and giving up that pick? They already lost one by signing Cano, they won’t want to lose another.

      Reply
      • Chris Koch

        12 years ago

        You don’t lose a pick when you resign your own player.??

        Reply
        • Edgar4evar

          12 years ago

          You lose the pick you’d be gaining if they signed elsewhere. Morales is very likely to sign a deal with someone and when he does, the M’s get a pick. Unless they sign him first.

          Reply
          • Chris Koch

            12 years ago

            gotcha. considering it’s a 35ish pick you’d gain different than losing your top 10pick as I was thinking he was thinking.

            Reply
  21. trenigro

    12 years ago

    Seattle please!

    Reply
  22. heemtj

    12 years ago

    Corey Hart loves wearing sunglasses at night

    Reply
  23. Mike 97

    12 years ago

    Pick Texas please.

    Reply
  24. Tim Bowers

    12 years ago

    I see the M’s stepping to the plate, and overpaying for Hart.

    3 years 36 million

    Reply
    • Edgar4evar

      12 years ago

      I tend to agree and I’m ok with this plan. I’d rather overpay for Hart, who is probably undervalued, than pay market for an overvalued player like Cruz. Who, frankly, the M’s would probably still have to overpay for.

      Reply
  25. Matt Galvin

    12 years ago

    Giants need a LF and so does Baltimore.

    Reply
  26. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    12 years ago

    He’s conferring with Burnett…

    Reply
  27. Chris Koch

    12 years ago

    Something that hasn’t been mentioned about Hart is that if your team doesn’t have Spring Training in Arizona you are out of the mix. He wants to remain close to his family. If your team does Spring Training in Florida, you probably need to overpay by 5mil on the 2nd best offer.

    Reply
    • John Kreese

      12 years ago

      Good info. I read he’s from Kentucky. Family relocate?

      Reply
      • Chris Koch

        12 years ago

        As a Brewer Fan, Corey had a full no trade clause over these last few seasons to any team that had Spring Training in FL. It made Boston/NYY a mute trade partner.
        Anyway headed to Seattle.

        Reply
  28. Evan

    12 years ago

    Angels maybe?

    Reply
    • abes_seed

      12 years ago

      I’d love to see the Angels get Hart to replace Trumbo… especially if you can get him for around the same price we were going to be paying Trumbo, maybe a tad more. I think if Hart is healthy, he will outplay Trumbo, so it would be like we just signed two young pitchers for minimum dollars.

      Reply
  29. GoForThree

    12 years ago

    Hart has his scales out. Seeing as how he has had issues the past couple of seasons and he’s never been on a championship team, i hope it’s not all about the weight of the money.

    Reply
  30. Jonathan T.

    12 years ago

    This is taking forever.

    Reply
  31. chicowalker

    12 years ago

    He should really be thinking about a 1B/DH role. It’s admirable that he wants to return to the Brewers, but with his knees, he’s probably just not a guy that can play a lot of games in the field.

    Reply
    • toddcoffeytime

      12 years ago

      Well he will be playing 1B, for what its worth. Getting days off against some RHP, so it’s pretty much a wash.

      Reply
      • chicowalker

        11 years ago

        Yeah. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him get 30 or 40 games as a DH either.

        Reply
  32. disqus_pNhzKcF3Cp

    12 years ago

    rangers

    Reply
  33. wyattpv13

    12 years ago

    Angelssss, please

    Reply
  34. LetsGoBucs92122

    12 years ago

    Hart would be a nice addition to the Mariners lineup. I wouldn’t mind seeing the M’s getting back to being a competitive baseball team for more than 1/5 of the time.

    Reply
  35. drwheelock

    12 years ago

    That would be a SOLID sign for Seattle. They could FINALLY sit Smoak against LHPs! And run with Hart either at DH or RF.

    Reply
  36. tedsfrozenhead

    12 years ago

    Mariners need proven players who will contribute today. They don’t need players who missed last season due to injuries and has problems with not 1 but both knees. It is a loser move that GMZ will likely not take since he needs to win this year to keep his job.

    Reply
  37. BadBJay

    12 years ago

    He’s not going to win in either Seattle or Milwaukee. It will be a quality of life decision he will have to make.

    Reply
    • ray_derek

      12 years ago

      Agreed

      Reply
  38. Razalnek

    12 years ago

    M’s probably offered more $$, plus he can DH there. I know Hart loves Milwaukee, but he’d probably be Gonzo after this year anyhow. I bet he goes to Seattle.

    Reply
  39. Hometown Discount

    12 years ago

    Obviously, loyalty is not one of Corey’s better assets.

    Reply

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