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Luhnow On Appel, Bullpen, Shifts

By charliewilmoth | April 27, 2014 at 10:52pm CDT

AstrosGM Jeff Luhnow discusses a variety of topics in a recent interview with FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal:

  • The Astros recently removed top overall 2013 draft pick Mark Appel from the rotation in Class A+ Lancaster due to the pitcher’s struggles to adjust to the Astros’ tandem rotation system. Appel also missed part of spring training with an appendectomy. “I don’t expect this to be more than a couple of weeks,” says Luhnow. “Really, it’s just to make up for spring training. It’s my fault for sending him to Lancaster. … I realized that he just didn’t have a proper spring training.”
  • Luhnow says he isn’t yet worried about the Astros’ bullpen, Rosenthal reports. “I do think with the quality of arms we have out there — [Chad] Qualls, [Matt] Albers, (Josh) Fields and potentially [Jesse] Crain, when he comes back — we do have an improved bullpen,” says Luhnow. The Astros’ relievers have struggled this year despite the additions of Qualls, Albers, Crain and Jerome Williams.
  • The Astros are not using defensive shifts only to get information they might be able to use later, Luhnow says. “[A]re we doing things just to learn? No. … We believe we’€™re going to get more outs that way,” he says.
  • Luhnow says he has no problem with manager Bo Porter’s fiery personality.
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  1. LazerTown

    11 years ago

    Meanwhile Bryant is already tearing up AA.

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    • Wainwrights_Curveball

      11 years ago

      I wonder if we’ll see him this year. The guy is an absolutely beast. Bright future for the Cubs.

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      • LazerTown

        11 years ago

        I think that he will kind of be similar to the Springer situation down in Houston. I think it would be a mistake to rush him up now, and Theo/Hoyer I think will play it smart with the service clock. I would be pretty surprised if he doesn’t get called up early next year, but don’t think they call him up this year. Even if they were to call him up in Sept and he hit, then they would be forced to start him in the majors. I think he sees AAA in the 2nd half, and brought up early next year. If Cubs were competing it would be different, like Xander had an impact last fall, but they have no reason to do anything different than what best interests for their long term future.

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      • Tko11

        11 years ago

        Cubs have literally no reason to rush him into the majors this year. Let him tear up the minors until there is no doubts he can handle the major leagues. Cubs will have a nice tandem with Baez + Bryant.

        Reply
  2. burnboll

    11 years ago

    I don’t know when they will bring up kris bryant.

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  3. jjs91

    11 years ago

    Why would Luhnow be worried about the pen or anything else? He basically has a green-light to lose every single season.

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    • RedbirdRuffian

      11 years ago

      That is funny–though I do think a couple more 100 loss seasons will mean the end of the Luhnow regime. At that time they will hold the all time record for most 100-loss seasons in a row, and the great draft positions they will have had for 5 plus seasons should be ready to pay off. Enough is enough, the Ryan’s will recognize by then they need someone who actually knows how to put an entire team together. Didn’t think it was possible for the bullpen to be worse than last year, guess again. Crain is on a 1-year deal, and may be ready next month; if he shows anything at all he will be flipped for prospects at the trade deadline which was the plan all along.

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  4. Butch Crassidy

    11 years ago

    I’d imagine most starters don’t like the tandem rotation. It’s gotta make it somewhat difficult to get into a rhythm or find one, especially if a pitcher is shaky early. I wonder if it makes it a little harder to evaluate too, as you don’t get to see the first starter make adjustments late in the ballgame.

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    • User 3074290004

      11 years ago

      The tandem system is a way to extend spring training in a sense. The Astros have a tremendous amount of depth in pitching talent and it wouldn’t be fair to players to send the left overs to the bullpen. Especially since some of the lower tier prospects excel in the system.

      Eventually the plan is to let them pitch deeper as their arms get used to the load of pitching professionally. We have already started to see this as Thomas Shirley and Luis Cruz have gone 6 innings in their last couple of starts.

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      • Butch Crassidy

        11 years ago

        I’m not questioning the sensibility of the concept because it’s a pretty practical one, especially in the Astros’ case. But from a comfort standpoint, I just don’t see how most starters, especially top-of-the-rotation guys like Appel, are fond of it. Foltynewicz practically blamed the system for his elbow soreness last season, which brings up an issue besides mine of deviating from routine. I get using it for mid-rotation pitchers and fringe starters at lower levels, but not guys you’ll rely on to carry a heavier workload, anyway.

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    • LazerTown

      11 years ago

      Think the tandem idea is good in the lower minors. Many relievers are just converted starters. If you have a tandem situation it allows the team to have more “starts” for everyone. Get the look at as many players as possible in the lower minors, Even if you only getting the one pitcher 3-4 innings that is enough where you can easily turn him into a starter if he impresses you.

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      • Butch Crassidy

        11 years ago

        I get that, but until you get to the point in which you feel comfortable extending your starters a little more, isn’t it a bit harder to determine who fits where? A guy may impress me over 3 innings, but that may not be the case when he has to face the lineup the second, and third time. So then I feel you’re running the risk of putting a guy in a spot where he won’t be most successful because of an abbreviated start. I think this system could prove both beneficial and detrimental to the Astros.

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