The Orioles and Blue Jays discussed a potential Adam Lind trade before the Jays sent Lind to the Brewers, reports MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko. The Jays asked for Steve Pearce in the deal, which would have amounted to something like a challenge trade — Lind and Pearce are the same age and play the same positions, although Lind is left-handed and Pearce right-handed, and Lind has one more year of team control. Pearce is coming off a significantly better season and will be much cheaper in 2015 (a projected $2.2MM for Pearce versus $7.5MM for Lind), however, so it’s not surprising that the Orioles said no. Here are more notes from around the big leagues.
- Dan Duquette’s most significant trade for the Orioles was sending Jeremy Guthrie to the Rockies for Jason Hammel and Matt Lindstrom, Rich Dubroff of CSNBaltimore.com writes. As that trade suggests, Duquette hasn’t been involved in many blockbusters in his three years on the job. The book is far from closed, however, on a couple of the deals Dubroff lists, like last season’s swap of Eduardo Rodriguez and Andrew Miller, and the 2013 trade of Jake Arrieta and Pedro Strop for Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger.
- The Rockies should need to trade Troy Tulowitzki or Carlos Gonzalez to become relevant again, but they should wait until those stars prove they’re healthy, Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post writes. If the team can trade one at the peak of his value, the deal might mark a significant step forward for the franchise, much like the Cubs’ trade of Jeff Samardzija.
- Pablo Sandoval is likely to represent the best value among free agent corner infielders this winter, ESPN’s Keith Law writes (Insider-only). Law argues that since Sandoval is only 28, he has plenty of upside, although his conditioning could cut in two directions — he might be able to get better with improved conditioning, although that conditioning could also be a drawback as he ages if it doesn’t improve. Law also writes that Hanley Ramirez has good value as a third baseman but much less as a shortstop.
CarGo to SEA for Walker, Brad Miller and a couple b prospects. Who hangs up first
Mariners hang up first. If Jack was smart. But he’s not, so I don’t know.
Going from Pearce to Estrada… Way to go on that asking price Anthopoulos. There’s no way once LaRoache signed that people would’ve been scrambling to find someone who’s hit .350 vs RHP in 2014 and .310 against them in 2013.
Problem is Pearce isn’t a big enough target in order to play 1st base everyday.
He is a very nice off the bench kind of player. I just don’t see him as a full time starter.
Plus, the Jays would have had to thrown someone else in the deal because Pearce and Lind’s salaries weren’t all that compatible.
If the Orioles aren’t all that happy with Chris Davis, then non tender him and let him go to a team of his choosing. I want Billy Butler and Jed Lowrie dag gummit! =P
That is all the O’s need to do and if we can re-sign or sign depending how you feel about it, Andrew Miller. What Miller needs to do is show that he is for real and can maintain the kind of control he did in 2014 and wasn’t a one hit wonder.
The O’s aren’t far away, but they do need to do some re-tooling to get back to the dance in 2015.
I don’t object to trying to land Butler, but you already have Jed Lowrie in Baltimore — he’s just wearing a jersey that says “Flaherty.”
There is no reason for the Rockies to trade CarGo.
Everyone and their mothers know that CarGo is a product of Coors Field. He is only average outside of Coors Field. CarGo is far more valuable to the Rockies than he would be with any other team and I would think that the trade proposals that the Rockies would get offered would reflect that.
The Rockies might as well just keep Cargo unless they are willing to do a trade just to do a trade.
It would be mad cool if you fact checked your post before uploading it for the collective readers to see. In 2013, CarGo hit .273 at home, and .332 on the road. His home wRC+ of 120 was absolutely demolished by his 174 that he put up on the road. So yeah… “he’s only average outside of Coors” was torn down last year. His 2014 was plagued by injuries so I’m not going to count it.
Plus, if he’s a product of Coors, shouldn’t the Rockies WANT to trade him, to maximize his value by turning him into two or three other players that could become “products of Coors”?
The trade proposals the Rockies are going to get are going to reflect his injury history and his remaining salary, not simply where he played his home games.
I’ve always been told that a 2-3 year sample size is always best when showing what kind of a player someone is. Since I’m on my phone right now, I won’t pull up stats but I know for a fact that Cargos OPS has been average on the road for his career while his numbers at home have been typically superb.
I’ll always take a large sample size(2-3yrs) over a half seasons worth.
Thanks but I’m already “mad cool” since I checked his stats before making my comment. Yes, he did hit a lot better on the road in 2013. However, you don’t use a 1 year sample size to make your point. Carlos Gonzalez has been a bit above average on the road for his entire career, 2013 included.
Of course, you don’t want to include 2014. CarGo was awful on the road. I bet you would have no problem pointing out his home stats though.
The Rockies don’t need hitting, they need pitching. I would think that lots of players would like to play home games at Coors to pad their stats. Of course, the trade proposal the Rockies would receive reflect CarGo’s total value not just his home stats. I never said it did. Don’t think that clubs don’t recognize his significant home/road splits for his career.
I would have been even cooler if you hadnt tried to say that a 110 game season was more significant than a career or even a 70 game season that continued a career long pattern. Cargo has hit .258 with a .750 OPS on the road and .329 with a .988 OPS at Coors for his career and his 2014 split was even worse. There is no doubt that he is a product of Coors field and an average player outside of Coors.
I think Duquette made a great move acquiring De Aza.
How can Panda be the “best value” when we have no idea what kind of contract he is going to get?
He might get DOUBLE Chase Headley’s contract. Is that a good value?
Tulo and cargo need to be traded and the Rockies don’t need to keep them any longer because they need to be rebuilding the team and trading those two guys will saved up some money
What is Pearce being paid League Minimum and projected $1.2M this year. Lind is being paid $7M and $8.5M next year. Pearce performed for same reason that Chris Davis hit 33 hrs and 85 rbi in 2012. They gave him regular at bats and a chance to play. Good for him; proud to have him on the Orioles.
I think he’ll be this good again next year. He never got his chance to play on a regular basis so you never know what he would’ve been if he had gotten that playing time.
OK so Lind was definitely going. Mainly because of recurring back issues. If he had 500 AB in 2013 and 2014 he would still be a Jay. So the question is if not Pearce who were the Orioles offering ? Schoop maybe ?