The Blue Jays have officially agreed to acquire star lefty David Price from the Tigers, as Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reported. Medicals have been reviewed and will pose no issues, Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com tweets. No money is changing hands in the deal, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports on Twitter, as Toronto will be responsible for the rest of Price’s $19.75MM annual tab.
The marquee piece coming in return is top Blue Jays prospect Daniel Norris, Heyman adds. The full haul also includes two other lefties, Jairo Labourt, and Matt Boyd, as Gideon Turk of BlueJaysPlus was first to note on Twitter.
It’s the second time in two years that Price has been featured as a marquee summer trade chip. This time, of course, he’s a pure rental with one function: driving his new team to and through the post-season this year. Toronto has seven games to make up in the division and is two back in the Wild Card chase, so it’s certainly a bold undertaking.
Price joins Troy Tulowitzki in Toronto after a pair of bold trade deadline moves for the Jays, who are set to field an array of the game’s top stars. If the trade for Tulowitzki wasn’t an all-in move, this one surely was. Both players have been among the very best in the game at their respective positions for the better part of the last decade, but remain young enough (29 and 30) to remain in their general prime.
Indeed, Price has pitched to a 2.53 ERA with 8.5 K/9 and 1.8 BB/9 over 146 innings on the year. That puts him on pace for a 200+ inning campaign with excellent results, Since his first full season in the big leagues, in 2010, Price has rated third in the majors among all starters in terms of fWAR, fourth in innings (1,224), and tenth in ERA (3.01) among qualifying starters. He has struck out 8.6 and walked 2.2 batters per nine innings in that span.
For the big lefty, the move means he’ll have a chance to hit the open market after the year without a qualifying offer dragging him down. Of course, that probably means more for the many clubs that are likely to chase him than it does for Price’s already-excellent earning power.
Toronto obviously had to part with significant assets to land Price. Norris just took the 18th spot on Baseball America’s mid-season round-up of the game’s best prospects. He’s a 22-year-old with loud stuff but sometimes-shaky control, as evidenced by his seventeen walks in thirty big league innings. But he’s got plenty of upside, obviously, particularly if he can harness his offerings. Over 90 2/3 frames at Triple-A this year, Norris owns a 4.27 ERA with 7.7 K/9 against 4.1 BB/9. But he was much better last year, putting up double-digit K/9 numbers and allowing only 3.1 walks per nine en route to a 2.53 earned run mark in 124 1/3 minor league innings.
Labourt, 21, is working at the High-A level and ranks 19th on MLB.com’s latest ranking of his now-former club’s prospects. The large-bodied sinkerballer could become a “future workhorse,” says MLB.com, though he’s scuffled somewhat this year. Over 80 1/3 innings, Labourt owns a 4.59 ERA with 7.8 K/9 against 4.9 BB/9.
The 24-year-old Boyd has spent most of the year in the high minors after a brief (and rough) two-start stint in the majors. He earned the 11th spot on MLB.com’s Toronto board. He doesn’t have a huge arm, but excels with feel, command, and deception.
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Well…crap.
For Norris and others I believe.
Alfords there too. Hopefully they get Soria for the bullpen as well.
Blue Jays making the playoffs
Hopefully he gets the start against Cueto now
He just started Tuesday, so yah that’s not happening.
Just don’t swing at any of Cueto’s pitches…dude is a headcase and will start throwing wildly when he starts to lose his cool. He walked in three runs against the hapless Tribe a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, GREAT point. Cueto is an ace, who’s averaging only 2 BB per 9 IP. He doesn’t lose his cool, but he does occasionally have a bad game (maybe due to the stress of being about to be traded).
You may want to consider your sample size.
I really hope they can catch the Yankees. They still have at least 2 series left w. them head-to-head.
13 more games vs yanks
And 8 back in the loss column. If the Jays and Yankees finished with the same record against other teams the rest of the way, the Jays would have to go 11-2 to pass the Yankees.
Also, still can’t count out the O’s yet either.
good point — i think it’s the last couple of pitching starts that make me a little uneasy. i also think i might feel worse if Cash gave up blue chips for a rental so yeah, i worry either way, lol.
I’m not worried about Price, most of our lineup is very familiar with whatever tricks he has up his sleeve. Yankees scored 8 runs on him by the 3rd inning on on 10 hits earlier this year.
are you worried now? I mean that hit Beltran had was hit hard. Arod had a blast too today. and don’t forget about that bullet Didi hit!
personally I’m not happy with Price’s starts against the Yanks, he allows far too many texas leaguers for my liking.
Thanks to AA, now this Yankee team are the underdogs where they thrive.
Thanks for making no loves so far Cashman. I guess you just want the jays to catch us.
The trade deadline isn’t over for about 27 hours. Relax. Jeez. I never seen a fan base of a 1st place team so frustrated. No wonder other fan bases hate us.
Ha, you should see Cardinals Nation right now. The are irate over Moss.
Yeah – it’s really tough being a Cardinals fan…I can see why they complain so much.
Me. Obviously everyone wanted a bigger upgrade than Moss, but not every team can land a huge name every deadline. There’s just not much else to upgrade at 1B with.
Oh that’s just one of the reasons.
completely agree, MB. If you are the Yankees, being proactive and overpaying doesn’t make sense. It’s not that every prospect is Hall of Fame bound, it’s that they Yankees really need to get younger and more athletic, and giving away youth and athleticism for a short term fix of 10-12 starts may not make sense. Even for Price
Hate us? Brian Cashman loves status quo and bargin binning usually. He done that as of late with guys like Stephen Drew who are being played out of position.They always go cheap and never really improve the team. Just have CC pitching like garbage the whole year and he doesn’t feel the need to improve it. Drew should have been gone already along with cc demoted to the bullpen.
Have to disagree with you.. Yes he does bargain bin shopping but look at McCarthy last year.. He was essentially the ace of the team in the second half.. Him and Prado were almost enough to carry the Yankees to the playoffs.. They cost all of Vidal Nuno (now in the Mariners bullpen) and catching prospect O’Brien (he was pretty much #7 on the Yankees catching depth chart and has since moved to the OF).. If Cashman can land someone similar to McCarthy (Leake perhaps) I will be fine with it.. Severino should get a call up very soon (He just struck out 10 in his last start) and should be good to go for the rest of the season. Since the Yankees have been limiting his innings to about 5 per start since the beginning of the year he should have plenty left for a playoff run in the bigs..
That’s probably it.
Jays just gave up their best prospect plus others for a rental, which doesn’t guarantee that they even make the play-offs, let alone win the whole thing. I also think that Price isn’t re-signing with them after the year as there should be a few teams that pony up more than them.
AA went for it because he knows that if he doesn’t make the play-offs this year, he’s probably canned after the year. I really would’ve hated it if Cashman gave up Severino + for a rental.
The thing about prospects is that you never know. Norris looked great in spring training (made the big club) but was very mediocre once the season started. I remember he complained of feeling “winded.” And back down in the minors he hasn’t exactly lit it up. Control issues are a concern. We’ll see. In the mean time the Jays get a known quantity at least.
That’s very true. Prospects are never a sure thing. I’ll be the first to admit it. The Jays did get a known quantity, one of the best out there, but only for 2-3 months, as I really don’t see them signing Price long-term. I understand, they’re going for it. But even getting someone as great as Price doesn’t guarantee them anything. It improves their chances, but it’s not like Price was the one missing piece. Meanwhile, Norris could come back to bite them in the behind. Think the Jays regret moving Syndergaard a little bit?
How do you know he wasn’t the missing piece? Don’t be fooled by the record, they already had the second-best run differential in baseball, and have now added Tulowitzki, Hawkins and Price to that. With 15 of their next 18 at home where they play really well, I would be very surprised if they’re not holding down a wild card spot by the end of that stretch and breathing down the Yankees’ necks for the ALE lead.
Happens when you live in a van in the offseason
Norris has struggled all year and shows classic symptoms of breaking down. He will be a bust, The Blue Jays fleeced the Tigers on this one.
So true, DD blinked too soon. You don’t trade your Ace for a back of rotation guys.
You probably do when you only own that ace for two more months – in a year you aren’t competing.
you think ownership lets AA spend all that money on Tulo, Martin, etc. then cans him? OK, we’ll see
Thank god. I was so worried the Yankees would overpay for him.
I don’t see the Yankees standing pat now. They will answer somehow.
IDK a 7 game cushion is big enough. If they are making a move, it probably isn’t related to the Jays. Though I think a guy like cashner will be a Yankee.
7 Game cushions can be deflated pretty quick when you are playing each other 13 more times this year
7 games can be made up in a little over a week.
There are 8-plus weeks left in the season.
The Yanks will bring up Severino and hope he pitches like Price did when he came up for the Rays. Judge and Severino could be great call ups down the stretch. The Yanks have done a good job monitoring his innings in the minors this year. A lot of the prospects that were listed behind Severino have looked good this year, like Matz
i guess if your TOR and it doesn’t work out, you can blow it up at next years trade deadline and replinish the team with EE and Bautista
except they both have 10 and 5 rights :O
Which I’m sure they’d be willing to relinquish to go to the sort of contending team that would want to acquire them as rentals. Being traded months before free agency would also free them of qualifying offers, which could boost their free agency earnings by $10m or more.
Even if they need to do that, they have the option of an intermediate-rebuild, centered around Donaldson and Tulo with Travis and Russell Martin as supporting cast. That will be a tougher decision though, as to whether they can avoid blowing it up completely.
10 and 5
it only enhances their Free Agent value by waiving their 10 and 5 rights
Price back in the AL East… Time to own him again like we have done his whole career XD
Check those numbers again.
4.41 ERA against the Yankees in 27 career starts. I like our chances
against our offense? okay
Why does the Jays offense have anything to do with Price pitching? Yankees have the 2nd highest offense in the league. Last time I checked your offense got you to a .500 record.
So CC is going to going to shut down the Blue Jays lineup?! HAHA! Eovaldi and Pineda probably won’t fair much better. 13 games…the Yanks will be luck to win 5 of them. I’m guessing they go 4-9 when it matters.
How about we let them play the games?
You better hope that happens as a Jays fan. The Jays are Eight back in the loss column.
Is CC gonna play against the Jays every game? Pineda has a 3.22 ERA against the J?ays so I think he will be fine. And when it matters? The Blue Jays haven’t played a game that matters since 1993. lmao
Speaking as a Jays fan, I think you’re making yourself look silly.
We knocked Price out the 3rd inning when the Yankees faced him earlier this year. 10 hits in 2 and a third innings lol. Welcome back Price.
Oh, what’s that Pineda scratched with “forearm tightness” not good
Own him????? Typical delusional Yankee fan
Check your stats before stereotyping
In his last 6 starts against the Yankees, he has a 7.59 ERA.
In the game against the Yankees last August, in which he gave up 8 ER in only 2 IP, he had a 1.63 FIP. In fact, in almost every instance as a member of the Tigers against the Yankees, he would have fared much better given an average defense.
Yank have hit him well at times in the past, he’s not the caliber of Scherzer, Greinke, or Kershaw this year.
do you remember making this comment? Price looked decent today.
could you please reply to this message. im wondering what kind of numbers Price has against the yanks while he’s played with the jays. I don’t have my abacus with me at the moment to calculate his era.
I’m not sure, but today he gave up 3 runs and 12 hits, while his team lost.
So Yankees, Dodgers, Giants can we interest you in Gallardo now? Lol.
Dont see why if Dodgers:
Kershaw/Grienke/Wood/Latos/Anderson
I think they’re good
Agreed, we have a very solid rotation going forward this season. We didn’t necessarily need a Price/Hamels/Cueto type pitching acquisition, though it certainly would have be nice; costly in terms of prospects (see Blue Jays giving up their #1 prospect in Norris, and Rangers giving up 5 prospects for Hamels, including Alfaro). We merely needed a couple good, solid middle rotation pieces to compliment Kershaw/Greinke at the top. Adding a couple solid bullpen arms, and you have the makings of the Dodgers having great pitching going forward this season. Peraza is just icing on the cake!
some fans might just be bitter and wanted a top pitcher and will not see that the dodgers still improve without getting hamels or price.
Yeah that’s unfortunate, but in the long run the moves we have made have made our team much better this year in 2015, and for the years going forward. We did it all without giving up any of our top 15 prospects (save Bird – who might turn into a solid reliever down the road, unless he can get those walks down and shore up his secondary offerings). I can’t complain one bit!
I agree I like the Dodgers moves so far. Friedman is one of the best in the business.
The new Dodger front office is getting absolutely nothing done.
Sarcasm?
Really? We added Latos and Wood to our rotation as our projected #3 and #4 (both of whom are great #3’s, and even can profile upwards towards #2’s). Added two solid bullpen pieces (Johnson and Avilan), replacing an injured Paco and probably Hatcher on the depth charts for the bullpen. Added another Scott Van Slyke type player in Michael Morse for basically nothing (we merely took on his salary as a favor to the Marlins). And finally added the type of prospects we are missing in Jose Paraza: a speedy 2B prospect who makes excellent contact and profiles as a high average, low BB% and low K% type player that looks a lot like Jose Altuve. He is a Jose Altuve type player with less power, and more speed.
dodgers already have a 2nd baseman prospect. base on stats paraza might be a future OF. since he sporting a .950 fielding % at 2nd unless he improve that
Darnell Sweeney right? Problem is, Peraza is 21, Sweeney is 24, both playing at AAA. Both have great speed, though Peraza has stolen more, and more efficiently throughout his minor league career. Sweeney does have more pop, but also strikes out twice as much, while not walking significantly more than Peraza. Also, the Dodgers have been trying Sweeney in CF and LF a lot this year, in the effort that he could become a utility type player similar to someone like Chone Figgins in his prime with the Angels. Also, Sweeney isn’t a top 100 prospect, Peraza is listed within the top 50 on all lists, and within the top 30 or even 25 by some midseason lists. As for the fielding element, when you have speed like Peraza, I don’t worry that his glove won’t come along. After all, Gordon’s glove wasn’t great at first, but because he has great speed, he fit perfectly at 2B where he is less liable to make throwing errors than he was at SS.
well either way dodgers are making the future look bright with stacking prospects. andrew friedman has a pretty good eye with prospects since that pretty much what he had to work with since the rays arent known with getting high profiled free agents. cant be mad if sweeney end up being a player like ben zobrist. with peraza i guess you can say the dodgers can sign kendrick for another year or two and bring up peraza slowly.
I think the Dodgers putting Sweeney in the outfield had more to do with the Olivera signing than making him a utility player.. The fact that the Dodgers had the Braves include Peraza shows exactly where they planned on deploying Olivera when he made the jump.. I think they are now going to make a run at Kendrick and use Peraza as a backup plan and perhaps flip him in the offseason if they do sign Kendrick.. The Yankees were reportedly very high on Peraza and the Dodgers could raid their bullpen depth for him.. If the Dodgers were to acquire Lindgren and Shreve or Wilson for him they would have a solid dynasty for years to come.. Their rotation will be one of the best in baseball next year even if they let Grienke walk.. Kershaw/Wood/McCarthy is a solid start and when DeLeon and Urias are ready they will control the NL West for at least half a decade.. They are by far the best run team in baseball right now..
I made the Altuve comparison with good reason. Altuve has always sported 30-40+ SB speed, .300+ AVG hitting, and doesn’t strike out a ton (less than 13% K rate) and doesn’t walk a ton (less than 7%). Peraza sports than some .300+ AVG, less than 10-12% K rate, around 6-8% BB rate type bat, with speed to steal 40+ bags, and not hit more than 3-5 HR per year. Perfect leadoff man for us! Being right-handed also will balance out our lineup which could feature lefties like Seager, Pederson, Gonzo.
I like the Altuve comparison.. It fits him well, however I lose respect for posters rather quickly when they refer to teams as “we, us, or our”..
getting latos,wood and jim Johnson and other players is doing nothing. im pretty sure that doing alot without giving up a top prospect
“Pending physicals”
Jays Fan—Soria or Cespedes better be including in the deal. Norris is going to be good and Alford will be the better player in this trade. I guess AA was told playoffs or unemployment!
The Jays’ offense is outstanding, but not young. Buehrle is gone after this year, and Dickey will be 60 years old soon. At some point you have to go all-in and give it a shot. There’s no guarantees in this game that keeping Norris (or even Syndergaard) would get them a WS either.
For whatever it’s worth, Dickey could be gone next year as well. $1MM buyout or a $12MM salary.
and by “could” be gone, you mean there’s absolutely no chance the jays pick up that option.
LOL, would you have made the trade in reverse? No way would I have traded Price for Norris. Norris is going backwards in his development.
If you read my comment you would see that I had more of an issue with Alford being including in the deal then Norris. I understand you have to give to get but the original report had Alford and Norris for Price and that is too much.
Norris still has potential but this year has definitely taken a lot of the shine off of his prospect status.. Unless he finds the groove he was in last year he won’t be much more than a #4-5 starter.. His control problems he had in the majors might have hurt his confidence and a change of scenery and a new pitching coach might be what he needs.. Remember what the Jays thought they were getting in Drabek when they traded for him? I think Norris compares to him quite well even with Drabek’s TJ surgery.. The Jays probably just completely fleeced the Tigers..
How the Tigers passed up on Sanchez and Refsnyder is beyond me.
Your joking?
He has to be considering no such offer was made.
You’re joking?
Sarcasm?
Blue Jays beat those two by a mile.
Nice haul for a rental. REALLY nice. Jays taking a huge risk here.
13 games left between jays and yanks. Way to drop the ball Cashman.
Detroit asked for Severino and Cashman said no. Fair call on his part, honestly. Jays gave up a bundle and are a whopping 7 games behind the Yanks.
Seven games isn’t all that whopping with two months to play and the Jays still playing the Yanks 13 times. I’m not saying the Jays will necessarily catch the Yanks, but I wouldn’t get too comfy…
Aj, your pitchers just increased in value with the teams that missed out on Hamels Kazmir and Price.
mike leake, dan haren, jon niese… theres still a lot out there!
With Norris and Alford, I already like Detroit’s return for Price better than Tampa’s last year. Good deal for Detroit. Toronto is all in.
Everyone had Tulo and Price going to the Jays right
Seriously…AA is basically fighting for his job. It’ll be a fun Sept and hopefully Oct!
A trade is the only way they’re going, they will lose money in taxes.
Not really. Unless your talking about Florida or Texas all other states including Canada are similar.
Even then you get taxed for your road games. Lookup the leaked paystub of McCutchen and it shows how complex it is.
Right
I’ve been following baseball for 45 years now and can’t remember a trade deadline like this one. I believe that it’s a sign of the game, social media, and the overall state of baseball today. I’m enjoying it, and think it’s awesome.
Are you going to post this on every single article that comes out today?
Wow! That was fast!
Jays made a statement to their fans!
Something all fans hope for at this time of year.
I thought my Dodgers would be in play for Price. Not even a peep. Guess we are going down the stretch with what we got.
after the trade they just made that should be complete soon unless something happen. the dodgers did pretty well to improve the team without giving up any of their top prospects
Yes! Hamels and Price both go to relatively “harmless” teams as far as the Nats are concerned.
No Alford in the deal apparently.
Norris Labourt and Boyd
Norris, Labourt and Boyd.
apparently Shi Davidi is reporting that Alford is NOT in the deal….Norris, Boyd and Labourt….
Also, i would be ok with overpaying him for 5 years 30mil a year? Shorter contract higher AAV would that do it? If Beurhle gets 20mil a season price is easily worth 30-35 over 5….Price would only be what 34 at 5 year ext…
Why would Price accept a 5/$150 from the Jays when some other team will offer him a 7/$200?
We gave up a lot for him… but lets go… 22 years is too long… lets go.
Looks like a good haul for the Tigers, they got 2 possible starters for next year.
Boyd is not a possible starter, he’s a depth piece in the minors who can be called up when required, eventual DFA guy, norris is huge though
1.68 ERA, 8.5 K/9 in Double and Triple-A this year. Seems like he could be at least a serviceable fifth.
Tigers fans are happy.
Wonder what will happen to Cespedes now.
This Tigers fan is NOT happy….makes my heart hurt…hate to see David go!
You can still re-sign him in the offseason.
This Tiger fan is not happy either. The Tigers got fleeced in this deal. None of these pitchers will ever make a meaningful impact at the MLB level.
I’m satisfied with the trade. The Tigers stayed with pitching, which is what they needed. Still have Cespedes and Soria to move. Stay the course and get more pitching. Who knows what will happen? Smyly outpitched Price after last years trade. Maybe Norris will do the same? Price seemed to take awhile to get comfortable in his new surroundings. Good Luck Toronto! You got a great pitcher and even better teammate.
remember when everyone said the royals were running away with the AL? i wish AA was the red sox gm, seeing how poorly cherrington has been of late with trades (besides the miller-rodriguez deal)
Yea pretty sure the blue jays still have a .500 record
Well the Blue Jays really are going for it then! They just improved an already very good offense with the addition of Tulowitzki and are now finally getting their ace. The prospects they gave up in return, however, is a pretty hefty price for a rental player. Nonetheless, if this gets them back into the postseason and possibly deep into the playoffs, it’ll be well worth it.
Big if.
well, they are going for it. I would assume Price is not going to sign with Toronto and no draft pick compensation so they better go get it done.
Seemed like that rotation of Stroman, Hoffman, Norris, Sanchez, Hutchinson was right around the corner for them, but admire a team that goes for it.
Prospects = Prospects. We had plenty prospects that were nothing that we held onto.
That lineup is scary good.. Unfortunately their bullpen is still kind of shaky.. They still need an addition or 2 there..
The Price is right!
Just had to say that.
No, you really didn’t have to.
Well Norris and Boyd could both be in the rotation and solid for the Tigers next year. This seems like a good return for 2 months of David Price.
It sure has been an interesting 3-4 days.
And now Pineda has an elbow problem? What yhe heck, Cash?!?!
Pineda and Nova are both hurt, Yanks done goofed.
Guess they gotta make a trade for someone like Leake then, and call up Severino.
Pineda is making his start tonight so it must have been minor.
Correction: Pineda isn’t making his start but Nova seems to be ok.
This makes the Cueto trade look even better. Royals win the Central running away.
Watch his elbow, eh? Also, Price is an AL East animal, toughest pitchers parks/linueups in majors. Cueto is not… Johnny won’t have any pitchers to pad that strikeout count. We’ll see how Johnny like pitching to our lineup on Saturday in T.O.
Tigers received a better return for 1/2 a year of Price than the Rays got for 1.5 years of Price.
Adames (consensus top 50 prospect) and Smyly (2.6 WAR in only 63.4 innings in TB) would like a word.
Unless you are trying to claim Smyly is a piece of damaged goods, in which case Norris would also be susceptible to the same type of risk.
The Franklin, Boyd and Labourt parts of these trades aren’t anything to write home about.
Who’s Franklin?
Not sure how the pieces will pan out for both trades, but the prospects Detroit got would need to be 3 times worst to make it even (1.5yrs of Price vs. .5 yrs. of Price)
as a dodger fan im not mad dodgers didnt get hamles or price. just mean they get to keep their prospects while still adding players to help improve there team. they can still get another pitcher but it be one that cost alot less then hamels and price did . unless they went after shields
Latos and Wood is a decent haul compared to one of Hamels or Price.
thankfully ned not the GM because he wouldnt have pull of a trade like that. the best he would do is get a pitcher with a ERA in the 4s. it not hamels or price but it still a decent improve from what they had. ill take that instead of doing nothing
Once we get past the top tier in the AL of the Royals, Angels and Astros, it’s an ‘anything can happen’ situation.
I would feel strongly about what the Jays did, had I not seen AA do this 3 or so years ago. That looked like a slam dunk as well.
Sloth broth please realize, you keep saying Sanchez and Refsnyder should get it done. Nobody wants them Sanchez is not a headliner in any deal for a star and nobody knows what Refsnyder is not even the Yankees. Stop over valuing your prospects, You want a star offer Severino or Judge. However, I wouldn’t do that bc they are cheap stars for you for the next 6 years.
a trio of lefties, literally this is the cueto haul with a better centerpiece and worse final piece.
Agreed. Similar haul for similar pitchers. Both KC and Tor gave legitimate offers of fair value.
Kudos to the Jays for going for it. Steep price to pay for a rental though. Hope it works out for them.
Not sure if I’m looking at the Toronto Blue Jays or the American League All Star Team…better pay off lmao
Royals are the AL All Star Team.
Perhaps by flawed voting yes.
AA is in his 7th season and has 0 playoff appearances.
Billy Beane has built up, torn down (and torn down again if you count this year) and made the playoffs 3 times in that span.
And people just love saying how AA is the best GM in baseball and Beane is massively overrated…
Beane is the superior gm. Not even close. However AA might have a slight edge in the scouting department.
I don’t think either of them is remotely the best GM in MLB.
I like Rizzo for sure. But neither of those guys compare to people such as Brian Sabean; Friendman / Zaidi; Epstein / Hoyer; Dayton Moore – and in he next few years what Terry Ryans and John Hart are doing will come clear.
who cares, every team has a love hate relationship with their GM’s except for the Phillies
Hopefully they can get price to sign an extension. He’s never had an offence like Bautista, Encarnacion, Donaldson, Tulo, and Martin. The jays will pay him what he wants. It all comes down to him wanting to play for the Jays or not.
Tigers are first in batting average, first in OBA and 4th in Slugging. Toronto isn’t all that much better.
Tulo, now Price? Where are the Jays getting all this minor league talent for trade bait?
From their minor league teams……
They are actually using prospects for one of their intended purposes, to acquire talent. Others are preferring to hoard prospects so they will probably come up short and be disappointed when most prospect fail to live up to their billing.
amen, norris’s mechanics need an overhaul…
so did Scherzer’s. That worked out ok, didn’t it?
Orioles need to make a move or two to be able to stay in this.
Yes, David Price is one of the game’s premier pitchers & yes, will he help the Jay’s capture a few more wins. However, will the Jays catch the Yanks & win the AL East? Of course, they won’t. A wildcard spot then? Hmmm, possibly. Yet at the same time, I would not even bet any of your money on it that they certainly will.
P.S. I know that Mike Wilner of The Fan 590 in Toronto see’s the Jays through the rosiest colored glasses ever made, but could you who call him on his post game show tell him that MLB’s greatest shortshop roams the infield at Turner Field, in Atlanta-Georgia? He being, Andrelton Simmons & not Tulo’ who he (Wilner) stated was the game’s best this afternoon on said, The Fan 590. Here in hellishly hot, Toronto, Canada.
Simmons is the best defensive short stop, Tulo is the best offensive/all around shortstop bar none.
Nice crystal ball you have, to know they won’t catch the Yankees. Run differential suggests they were already better than the Yanks, they have just majorly underperformed in the W/L column, while the Yanks have overperformed. That may have corrected itself naturally down the stretch without any moves, but now the Jays just made their team that much better in the last two days on top of it. A 7-game lead with two months to go and 13 head-to-head games left is literally nothing.
Jays will catch Yanks most likely, the teams are not that different except in offense and the Jays > Yanks in that category. The problem is the Jays lose too many 1 run games (most in MLB). If they won half of those games, they are leading the division.
Jays rotation ERA: 4.34
Yankees rotation ERA: 4.32
Jays bullpen: 3.40 ERA, 3.51 FIP, 3.41 xFIP
Yanks bullpen 3.22 ERA, 3.37 FIP, 3.36 xFIP
Did he say defensively, or overall? I’d rather have Tulo on my team any day than Simmons.
Defensive range, yeah maybe, but uh, he as an 85 OPS+ and then there’s the fact that Tulo has the highest fielding percentage of shortstops over the last several years. Do some homework first instead of watching the morning highlights.
That’s *career* 85 OPS+
Chips all in for the Jays, that’s for sure. Moves look good on paper, although I would tape Tulo up with bubblewrap every time he gets out on the field.
As an A’s fan, I remember the euphoria of last year’s trade deadline (sigh)…
Better make the playoffs first, Jays (and no, it isn’t a ‘lock’ when you firgure that either the Stros/Angels have one position and the Twins/ChiSox are also determined to make it to the post-season).
Just win, baby!
The positive thing about this deal is that if the Blue Jays flop, they have the chance to overhaul this next offseason. Quite a bit of money will be coming off the books with Buehrle becoming a FA and I’d bet the Jays would buy out Dickey’s option. Both Encarnacion and Bautista have team options likely to be exercised for 2016 and both could be potential trade bait during the offseason to recoup some of the lost prospect value from the recent trades or acquire a starting pitcher. Stroman will be returning for the 2016 season and with the money coming off the books the Jays could potentially sign a decent FA over the offseason and go into the 2016 season with the chance to compete.
It ill be so funny if Tigers will make to the play offs and Blue Jays not…
It’s funny that so many people think that there’s no chance he extends his stay in Toronto. You guys know that the Jays are one of the richest teams in baseball right? They have massive offense to support him, they have great defense behind him and a lot of money to offer him. They have three months to try and extend him and at very least, he will have to say no to a mountain of money. I fully believe that they can extend him and will try hard to do so. He has said more than once that he feels at home in the east so let’s see.
What has he said about north of the border? I like that the Tigers traded him to the team that is most often listed on no trade clauses. While I don’t expect the Tigers to sign him, its still nice to know that they most likely will still have the opportunity.
Grumblings here in the bay area is that teams have been calling the A’s about the availability of Sonny Gray. With Toronto making all these moves, makes it unlikely they’re one of the teams calling Oakland now with Price.
Oh snap,BREAKIN NEWS: Yankees see our Donaldson Tulo Price and raise us a DUSTIN ACKLEY!!! $@&!
“pure rental” on who’s professional opinion? The Jays have more than enough money to extend Price and the team to influence him to stay.
They have the money, but other teams have “more” money.
Nonsense, Rogers can outspend or keep up with anyone they want and they also aren’t hampered by a huge payroll.
Dave, I wish this wasn’t the move you had to make, but nice return. Hope you do as well with Cespedes and Soria.
Even if the Jays make the playoffs, I’m not sure I like this move. They gave up players for a two month rental. After that, what’s next? There’s no guarantee that Price resigns or gets them to the playoffs this year.
Then they sign another player in Free Agency. It’s not like they don’t have fantastic players in Stroman, Sanchez and Osuna.