With the news that the Rockies have agreed to sign Gerardo Parra to join an already heavily-left-handed outfield mix, it seems increasingly likely that Colorado will strike a deal involving one of its current players. We’ve heard of wide-ranging possible matches for Carlos Gonzalez, Charlie Blackmon, and Corey Dickerson, any of whom could in theory be moved.
Here are the latest rumors on the Colorado outfield situation now that Parra is in the fold:
- The Tigers have also been in contact with the Rockies regarding their outfielders, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. No deal between the two sides is close, however, and it’s unclear which of Blackmon, Dickerson or Gonzalez intrigues Detroit the most at this juncture.
- The Orioles are still participating in “ongoing trade talks” with the Rockies regarding outfielders, Jon Morosi of FOX Sports reports on Twitter. Baltimore has been connected previously to Gonzalez, though it seems plausible to think that any of the Rockies’ outfield trade chips could hold interest.
- While the Angels have long seemed a plausible trade partner with Colorado, they have not been in contact on outfielders for several weeks, according to Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times (Twitter link). Los Angeles has previously been called at least a hypothetical match on Blackmon, in particular. The team is still looking for a corner outfielder, though it seems possible the club could run out a platoon of Craig Gentry and Daniel Nava if it can’t line up an upgrade at a reasonable price.
- It’s interesting to wonder whether Colorado has already decided which (if any) of its outfielders it intends to move. There are several considerations at play, of course, but one simple truth is that the club needs someone to play center field next year. Blackmon took most of the reps up the middle last year, so parting with him could be extra painful — unless the team simply plans to use Parra there. But he has seen declining metrics that suggest a more challenging assignment may not be the best idea. And while both Gonzalez and Dickerson have appeared in center previously, neither looks like a good bet to receive regular time in that spot. I’d add, also, that the outfield market has changed quite a bit in recent weeks. Clubs like the Royals (Alex Gordon), Giants (Denard Span), and Nationals (Ben Revere) have made additions that either take them out of the market altogether or significantly reduce their need.
Tigers maybe looking for one outfielder. Have been pretty active in trade mark, not trying to spend a bunch of money. Possibly an option?
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what do the angels even have available to swing in a trade?? Tropeano, Heaney, Bedrosian, and maybe Santiago? All of that would dramatically hurt the Angels in any sort of pairing
Not really. The Angels potentially have 7 starters available for the rotation so they likely have the ability to sacrifice at least one of them. Still I wouldn’t be too keen on Dickerson, Blackmon, or Gonzalez due to their ridiculous home/road splits
That’s the argument that was made for Matt Holliday…turned out he can hit anywhere, just like Cargo. The other two I would be skeptical about personally.
Cam wouldn’t hurt a bit IMO
Santiago would get shelled in Colorado so I don’t see them wanting him.
Heaney isn’t touchable for any of the 3 OF
Tropeano or Shoemaker are only SP I can see being available and I don’t think Colo wants Matt anymore.
I’m not thrilled about Blackmon or Dickerson b/c their splits concern me.
Tropeano and Bedrosian will work, they have rasums for long relief
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For who though? Neither of them exactly set the world on fire and Bedrosian was downright awful in the pen
Here I was hoping too that the Cardinals would trade for one of their outfielders.
None of the three is an improvement for the Cardinals.
Cargo is a big improvement!
The more I think about, the more I like the idea of moving Dickerson to first base and having a Parra/Blackmon/CarGo outfield in 2016. Brandon Barnes could be the 4th OF and Ben Paulsen could be the 5th OF/backup 1B.
Marco Gonzalez, Alex Reyes, and Matt Adam for CarGo… make it happen Cardinals.
I think the Rox would have done that last month, but the Cards don’t seem to want to include Reyes.
I wish RedFeather. Mo doesn’t wanna part with Reyes
I keep seeing this proposal floated around, but it is too steep in my opinion. Marco Gonzalez, Adams, and a mid-level prospect would be fair for Cargo given his health concerns and salary.
Absolutely agree. Including Reyes is a huge overpay for an injury prone outfielder regardless of his numbers. He has what, 2 years left on his current deal? You don’t give up a potential No. 1 for that even if he did smoke a little dope. By the way I believe once he makes the major league roster pot does not get you suspended. That said, I’m advocating that he continues to use it.
Sorry, Meant to say NOT advocating that he continues to use it.
Reyes have a 50 game suspension next year?
Absolutely not. Alex Reyes is a future ace, I’d imagine he’s untouchable.
Is that after Reyes gets back from his second ped suspension
Reyes’ suspension is not for PEDs, it’s for pot.
Reyes’ suspension is for pot not PEDs
If the Cardinals included Reyes in that deal. They would be grossly over paying.
The Angry Puckster
The Angry Puckster
I agree with EndinStealth, giving up Reyes is quite a bit
with the others suggested. I
am disgusted with the lack
of the Cards going after
someone that can jack the
ball!!! This team needs to
score more than 1,2,or 3 runs
a game. They need to be
competitive with the Cubs
and the Pirates.
Here’s hoping they make a
major move before it’s too
late for the immediate future.
The best fans in baseball deserve a major contender!!!
Can’t imagine anyone even entertaining the idea
I have no idea on Dickerson’s market, what about a Dickerson to the Reds for one solid prospect or MLB ready player such as Lorenzen and then a minor piece to go with it (like a Rookie Davis.) Reds use up some pitching depth to acquire an everyday LF with four years of control. who could put up good numbers at GABP (if he stays healthy.)
They just traded for Schebler. They are in the process of collecting not sending. Plus they still have Bruce and Hamilton. Schebler is the type of player who can thrive in that ban box.
I’d trade Gonzalez just because he’ll have the biggest return and his talent won’t be around when they’re ready to contend. I’d also hang onto Dickerson, hes very underrated
It’s not gonna be Cargo. Parra and Cargo are school buddies (and still very close). I’ll bet one of the things he asked of the Rockies before signing his name is whether his friend will still be there come Spring Training.
It’s enough for a player to ask for a no-trade clause in his own contract. To suggest or hint at something comparable concerning another is ludicrous!
It’s not necessarily the player. The Rockies owner likes to have guys around that have a good history with each other. They kept Jason Giambi as an exclusive pinch hitter for three years just because he was off season buddies with Tulo, Monfort likes to keep his ticket draws happy.
So you are suggesting the Rockies signed Gerardo Parra to keep Carlos Gonzalez happy for the final 2 years of his 7 yrs/$80M contract extension that still has $37M remaining through 2017…and that “Cargo” won’t be traded before he hits FA despite the likelihood that the Rockies won’t be postseason contenders during that time frame.
Yes I am. I’m not saying it’s what I would do or that it is the right thing to do, but it is what Mr. Monfort likes to do. He is worried more about selling tickets instead of making the playoffs. He has said so publicly in fact.
What do the O’s have as trade bait. The shelves are pretty bare.
They have a pretty deep mlb bullpen, I can imagine them making some of them available for an outfield bat
That all they have! The O’s need to truly think about trading Adam/Matt and Manny if they are not in playoff picture by all-star break
Orioles will not trade Manny Machado who they have control of till 2019 and Adam Jones is in Baltimore beacuse he wants to be there. Adam Jones will retire as an Oriole. Pitchibg will be better with Spud Norris and Tommy Hunter gone. Toronto lost not only David Price but Buehrle as well. Boston gave away Miley who they really needed. Yankees counting on two 40 year olds and Teixiera.
I want to believe the O’s will be in the hunt but manny and Adam could bring a lot of players back to O’s .matt should be traded at trade deadline to a team looking for the push. He will net some prospects. The owner does not want to spend the money on pitching
I concerned that if a club continues to trade their established stars for prospects, then they’ll never reach contention. They will, in essence, become the Rays.
Boston gave away Miley, but got David Price and a solid bullpen guy in Carson Smith back, so I don’t see how they could’ve gotten possibly worse. Also Adam Jones is only technically in Baltimore because the Mariners traded him there.
Catchers are never traded at the deadline. The season would be over by the time they learned the new pitching staff. If he is still there after spring training he won’t be going anywhere unless it’s as a DH.
FYI, the Redsox didn’t *give* away Miley, and they really didn’t need him. They have plenty of depth with Price, Buch, Rodriguez, Porcello, Kelly, Owens, Johnson, etc.
For Miley, they received 5 years of control of a shutdown reliever (Carson) to pair with their late inning crew to form a deep bullpen. They also got a swing man type guy in the Miley deal.
If the return for manny is a wow return manny will be gone. I’m talking 4 to 5 very high mlb ready players
Bundy and Harvey mostly. A Bundy for Blackmon trade would be really interesting. Bundy’s obviously way more talented, but depending on how much you discount him based on no options and tons of injuries, it might actually be fair.
Braves trade Teheran (4 years and medium contract), Tyrell Jenkins, and Swisher for Dickerson and McMahon.
Any value that Tehran has would be negated by Swisher’s negative value, unless the braves are willing to eat some of his contract
Teheran, Jenkins, and Banuelos of Atlanta for Dickerson, McMahon, and Tapia.
No way the braves would do that. Perhaps Dickerson, McMahon, and Tapia for Teheran alone but no way in the world they’d include Jenkins and Baneulos as well. Even if he isn’t doesn’t have much better numbers than last season Teheran’s contract is remarkably cheap for the years left.
While both McMahon and Tapia had great seasons in 2015, neither have advanced yet past A ball and Tapia needs to learn to take a walk. Dickerson I actually like decently enough but his home/away splits are terrible. Dickerson only walked 3 times in 42 away games!!!
Braves have a match with Teheran?
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why would the braves do that? they are far from a team that can contend in the NL let alone beat out the Cubs, Pirates, Cards, Mets, Nationals, Dodgers, or Giants.
For the same reason you just mentioned. They have the arms in the minors to work this year and be ready by ’17-18. TEHERAN is due 41M over next 5 years. Dickerson has 3 years of ARB left and there are minors pieces that match up.
In case you didn’t realize it 41 million of five years is a fantastic team friendly deal for a young starting pitcher with upside.
That is what makes him such a trade commodity; his value, control, and team friendly contract.
Teheran for Dickerson
One thing the Braves don’t need is more outfielders.
Neither did the Rockies, but now they have 4 legitimate starting OFs. We have 2 starting OFs, a hope in Olivera, and two horrible contracts tied to two OFs that cannot play 100 games.
Because both Blackmon and Dickerson are under control for multiple years, not just 2016. But they might want to build some chemistry for when their new ballpark opens and they are ready to spend again.
For the same reason you just have, they won’t contend this year. Teheran is a nice trade piece. Dickerson and swap of prospects.
Teheran for Dickerson.
Makes sense to me. Although the Rockies might be more interested in prospects than a guy with, what, 2 or 3 years of control left.
For the same reason you mentioned. Teheran is a strong trade chip to a contender for Dickerson and prospects.
Match up in trade well.
I’ve got to believe Rick Hahn is moving in stealth mode on this. The White Sox were rumored to bein on Upton, Cespedes, and Gordon, with competing reports that they couldn’t afford to add a big contract. Now they seemed to have moved beyond those guys while re-asserting their faith that Avi Garcia may figure things out. A left-handed bat would be a great complement, keeping Avi in platoon.
They’ve traded away enough getting Frazier and Lawrie that I think it’s unlikely they trade for another significant piece.
I think it’s more likely they go for a few mid-grade signings like last year. Their biggest need, which nobody talks about, is their rotation. Outside of the top three guys it is borderline disgraceful. Gallardo would be a good pickup if they got him at a nice price. Then since they were already giving up a pick it might make sense to make a run at Fowler, who would obviously be a big upgrade over Garcia and could probably be got at a good price. Add one of the better relievers available and a veteran starting shortstop and they have a much improved team for less than they spent last year
It would stink giving up picks two years in a row but their first is protected and they have the Samardzija pick so they’d give up two picks in the 25-45 range and be done with it, that’s not bad.
If the White Sox were interested in a left-handed hitting platoon partner for Avi Garcia they should have simply outbid the Rockies for Gerardo Parra’s services. Parra has outstanding splits versus right-handed pitching, would have been a huge defensive upgrade and could also have been the backup in CF that they lost when trading Trayce Thompson last month.
Imo, the White Sox are still pursuing a bigger fish for the corner outfield and the middle of their batting order, whether it be a FA like Yoenis Cespedes or Justin Upton or a trade option like Ryan Braun, Carlos Gonzalez, Josh Reddick, Yasiel Puig, Kyle Schwarber or Jorge Soler.
CarGo for Rusney and Owens, add prospects as necessary.
Swap JBJ in for Rusney and we have a conversation. Castillo has negative value at the moment.
maybe 1 of the 3 to the O’s for Gausman. or to the Nats for Gio. Would love to see Dickerson in Boston. Owens, Rusney…
ro the Rockies:
P -Nick Tropeano (Angels)
P – Victora Alcantara (Angels)
P – Cam Bedrosian (Angels)
P– Zach Eflin (Phillies)
OF – Daniel Nava (Angels)
ro rhe Angels:
OF- Carlos Gonzalez (Rockies)
2B – Cesar Hernandez (Phillies)
to the Phillies:
P – C.J. Wilson (Angels)
2B – Roberto Baldoquin (Angels)
OF – Raimel Tapia (Rockies)
Interesting trade scenario. Looks good even with so many moving pieces.
It boggles my mind to see that the tigers haven’t ponied up for Cespedes yet. We absolutely need that bat in order to stretch out the lineup . I see the pitching as vastly upgraded – maybe that’s simply because we haven’t had a shut down back end of the pen in, well, forever, and my eyes are wide at the idea. The two things that never get talked about with Cespeedy that drastically add to his value are his raw athleticism – ability to go 1st to 3rd and provide a little SB potential – that’s sorely missing in the middle of Detroit’s offense, as well as his Gold Glove defense. The Tigs are, outside of below average Castellanos, quite a good team defensively (I’m including Miggy in there, as would most fans that watch him everyday), especially when Cespedes was gunning down runners on the basepaths.
If Mr I really is willing to spend big, the time is now. Verlander looks revived, Zimmerman and Sanchez are consistent, and Norris (IMHO also Shane Greene if given another shot) is ready to have a breakout year. VMart is old and Miggy and Kinsler are in the latter chunk of their primes. Let’s make that push for another three year run now, even if you have to pay Cespedes for 5 years.