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Central Notes: Pirates, Cardinals, Holaday

By charliewilmoth | March 19, 2016 at 4:39pm CDT

The Pirates, rarely satisfied with the unexamined application of conventional wisdom, are considering moving Andrew McCutchen to the No. 2 spot in their order, writes ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark. McCutchen has been the Pirates’ No. 3 hitter for more than five seasons, but the Pirates think they might be able to score more runs batting second, because he’ll get more plate appearances, but also because they’ll have his high on-base percentage closer to the top of the order and because he won’t be coming up with two outs and the bases empty so much. “For 47 years, the baddest dude on the team hit third,” says manager Clint Hurdle. “Well, you know what? It shouldn’t be that way anymore. There’s a better way to get it done.” Here’s more from the Central divisions.

  • GM John Mozeliak says the Cardinals’ signing of Ruben Tejada increases the team’s flexibility, MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince writes. “There is a level of fatigue in this game that was not discussed 10, 15, 20 years ago,” says Mozeliak, whose Cardinals were the victims of what seemed like an unusually long list of injuries last year (although Castrovince notes that they were lucky to have four players, including Peralta, appear in at least 150 games). “One of the things we wanted to do was just make sure, as the season turns to July, August and September, is just make sure our guys are fresh.” Tejada presumably will take over for Jhonny Peralta at shortstop while Peralta recovers from a thumb injury, with Jedd Gyorko returning to the utility role the Cards originally planned for him. But Tejada doesn’t seem to be taking a starting job for granted. “I just came here to play, to do my best,” he says through an interpreter. “Whatever my performance is on the field, there’s going to be a decision made [off of that].”
  • Tigers catcher Bryan Holaday is generating interest from other teams, Peter Gammons tweets. Holaday is out of options, and the Tigers have two more established catchers in James McCann and Jarrod Saltalamacchia. So there might not be a roster spot for Holaday, unless the Tigers want to carry three catchers. (The Tigers have also experimented with using Holaday at third base and in the outfield this spring.) The 28-year-old Holaday, who split his time between Detroit and Triple-A Toledo last season, has hit brilliantly this year in Spring Training, for what little that’s worth — he has 11 hits, including four homers, in just 21 at-bats. His previous track record, including a career .251/.283/.340 line in the Majors, isn’t nearly so Ruthian, but it’s not surprising there would be at least some interest in a relatively young, cost-controlled catcher.
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  1. bluejaysfan55

    9 years ago

    Yes the Pirates are a bunch of genius’s batting McCutchen 2nd, I wonder if they learned it anywhere..

    Reply
  2. dwilson10

    9 years ago

    The Pirates should consider hitting Cutch in the leadoff spot. Move Harrison to 2nd and Marte 3rd.

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    • lonleylibertarian

      9 years ago

      No – but they should consider the Joe M approach and bat Locke and vogelsong 8 – or even 7 – expect each of them to pitch 5 innings and then go for a pinch hitter

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      • dwilson10

        9 years ago

        It was just a thought. But I agree with hitting the pitcher 7 or 8. It has worked well for Joe with the Cubs

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      • EndinStealth

        9 years ago

        Lol that you call it the Joe M approach.

        Reply
  3. danplaysdrums

    9 years ago

    My man used the word “because” three times in one sentence. Nice!

    Reply
  4. mickeyposkonski

    9 years ago

    Please learn how to spell Holliday. He’s been around a few years. You’ll need it this year.

    Thank you.

    Reply
    • timyanks

      9 years ago

      Holliday wasn’t mentionedin this posting. Holaday was. spelling is correct.

      Reply
    • chri

      9 years ago

      Please learn to read an article before posting a comment. You’ll need it this year.

      Thank you.

      Reply
    • lonleylibertarian

      9 years ago

      I hate spelling/grammar trolls – get a life

      Reply
      • chri

        9 years ago

        Lol it wasn’t even a spelling error. Holliday and Holaday are two completely different players.

        Reply
    • bartoloshomie

      9 years ago

      Matt Holliday is a ballplayer; he plays for the Cardinals. The Cardinals were never mentioned in the posting. Bryan Holaday is also a ballplayer. He plays for the Tigers. Know your MLB players

      Reply
  5. Samuel

    9 years ago

    “……but the Pirates think they might be able to score more runs batting second, because he’ll get more plate appearances, but also because they’ll have his high on-base percentage closer to the top of the order and because he won’t be coming up with two outs and the bases empty so much.”

    Right.

    Instead of coming up to bat after the #1 and #2 hitter, he’ll see more runners on base coming up to bat after the #9 and #1 hitter.

    The main reason I don’t like watching the new wave statistical-driven teams play is that they have no baseball common sense. They all play not to lose on the field, and then come up with something like this which is supposed to put the team over the top because the front office is so smart. Hint -it’s the players on the field that have to make the smart decisions.

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    • ronnsnow

      9 years ago

      Sorry that you’re still stuck in 1974. Ignoring the statistical evidence that exists is just plain stupid.

      Reply
      • Samuel

        9 years ago

        Please don’t tell me how “plain stupid” I am.

        MLB teams have been using statistics for over 40 years now. All teams use them, In fact, teams have so many people looking at statistics day-and-night that it’s now become absurd – recently the Red So cut back on some people……and I have to wonder if the Dodgers put up a new building to house all their statistical “advisers”. You missed where I wrote “the new wave statistical-driven teams”. Teams such as the Royals and Giants (how many WS have they been in the last 2-5 years?) use statistics. But they also play solid fundamental baseball, and they don’t comprise what they’re doing to try tricky little things. We have a lot of front offices that are more concerned with establishing themselves as some sort of sages, instead of building teams that can win.

        In this case – of batting a run-producer 2nd – that is exactly the over the top stuff these people are coming up with. For well over 100 years the smart teams had their main run producers batting 4th (not 3rd……that has come in the past 20 years as a way of flattering their highest paid hitter). The guys hitting 1st and 2nd were generally contact hitters with a good appreciation of the strike zone, so they got on base a lot, and they were usually solid baserunners. The #3 hitter was a good overall hitter, one that usually had more speed and hit with less power then the #4 hitter. The 4th guys job was to hit in the guys on base. See, that’s why the 4th hitter was referred to as – “the clean-up hitter”. But that was a time when the object was to score more runs in a game then the other team, which is how teams win games. Now the object is to come up with some overall stats that get one invited to speak at the Sloan conference.

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        • Samuel

          9 years ago

          I guess the Giants and Royals should bat Posey and Hosmer 2nd.

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        • herecomethephillies2018

          9 years ago

          People called Clint Hurdle crazy when he started using defensive shifts for hitters 1-9, all based off of statistical analysis. I’m an old school guy myself, but Hurdle knows more about baseball than you (or I) could ever dream of. There’s a reason why he’s managing an MLB team and we’re writing comments online.

          Reply
  6. cardfan2011

    9 years ago

    Im really glad Cards were able to get a SS without giving up prospects. And it’s only a one year deal, there are no bad one year deals

    Reply
    • Hking204

      9 years ago

      @cardfan2011 No bad one year deals?? LMAO Roger Clemons deal in 2007 lol

      Reply
  7. donniebaseball

    9 years ago

    Bryan Holliday will either make the roster or be traded. Regardless of the two options, he has really helped himself this spring.

    Reply
    • AshtonLover

      9 years ago

      Thanks Donnie didn’t catch that from the article

      Reply
    • timyanks

      9 years ago

      brian holaday, no relation to matt holliday

      Reply
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