The Rangers are receiving a “ton of calls” expressing interest in infielder Jurickson Profar, according to MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan. Texas appears to be weighing whether it truly wants to part with the 23-year-old, but Sullivan hints that it’s at least a possibility in the right scenario.
Among the suitors, theĀ Rays appear to stand out with interest. Tampa Bay has several potential starting pitching trade pieces that could be a fit, though Sullivan suggests that the Rangers may not valueĀ pitchers like Jake Odorizzi, Matt Moore, and Drew Smyly highly enough to give up Profar.
Rotation help continues to stand out as the biggest need for Texas, though as Sullivan notes it’s also possible to imagine Profar being packaged in a deal for a catcher. That might be Jonathan Lucroy, he says, or perhaps an alternative backstop who matches Profar in terms of control and upside — though it isn’t easy to come up with any clear examples of such a player who might be available.
The real question underlying the decision for the Rangers, perhaps, is how to value Profar — both in general and with regard to roster fit. He only has three more years of control left, all via arbitration, because his prior injuries occurred when he was on the major league roster. And the team does have big-dollar shortstop Elvis Andrus around for the foreseeable future.
Still, it’s possible that Texas could view Profar as worthy of handling regular shortstop duties as soon as 2016, per the report. In that case, Andrus would likely move into the sort of utility role that Profar currently fills.
The Rangers have several other plausible trade pieces that it could utilize instead of Profar. Chief among them, perhaps, is slugger Joey Gallo. Like Profar, he seems ready to contribute at the major league level, but has veterans ahead of him on the depth chart. And similarly, he could be viewed as somewhat expendable — with Adrian Beltre now locked up at third base for another two years — or as an important future piece, given that he could step in at first base with Mitch Moreland departing.
What seems most clear from the report is that Texas won’t be moving Profar for anything short of a high-quality asset. That’s plenty understandable given his top-flight pedigree and .318/.366/.455 batting line in 142 plate appearances this year. The long-term health of his shoulder remains a concern, and the relatively short timeline of control limits his upside, but the Rangers surely have little reason to deal him if they aren’t able to get an impact player in return.
MiamiPhins34
TORP or keep him. Anything short of that would be a big mistake.
baumer16
There are no TORP available and if there were the price would be significantly more than Profar. Unless this TORP had only a half year left of control.
Mike M 2
There isn’t anyone known to be available that is worth Profar, so this could be interesting. Maybe Andrew Miller but I’d rather have Profar than Miller.
MiamiPhins34
Maybe, just maybe Texas would consider Profar for Miller and Chapman in the same deal.
jose carlos
Please!! You guys all express yourselves as if Profar is the second coming of Mike Trout. Baseball fans allover only see themselves through the eyes of their favorite young prospect and do not view their opponents’ prospects worth. When this happens might as well not even consider a trade and keep your guy as part of your team’s core players.
Mike M 2
I’m not a Rangers fan, I am a Red Sox fan. The fact of that matter is that Profar is more valuable than most of these back of the rotation innings eaters that teams want to trade. No one ever said he was Mike Trout. Young, toolsy middle infielders have value.
jose carlos
You said: “There isnāt anyone known to be available that is worth Profar, so this could be interesting.”
That is why I mentioned Mike Trout as an example as I could have also said Mookie Betts or Xander Bougarts that in my opinion is worth each one much more than Jurickson Profar. Even though we know that both of these Red Sox all stars are not available now, Mike Trout could be. Nevertheless, the Angels would never make this deal as we all would logically agree…
MiamiPhins34
They are relief pitchers. Those simply aren’t worth potential All-star middle infielders.
chesteraarthur
Huh?
stymeedone
Give me the ALL STAR Reliever for the all star “potential” middle infielder every day. I want my team to win, so if they can trade a player from a position of surplus, for a quality player at a position of need, DO IT!
One Fan
He never said Mike Trout
jakegreenberg24
Back to the Miller/Chapman trade debate: Of the six teams currently leading their division, 5 teams have expressed significant interest in acquiring one of them. Sure, there are definitely options that are cheaper for guys having solid years, but none of the relievers on the market have exhibited the consistency of Miller over of the past 3/4 years and Chapman throughout his career. In addition, these division leaders seem to have a lack of confidence in their back end guys due to lack of experience in big games/performance; the Nationals are the only one of the five who has a performing closer who has pitched in multiple postseasons (Santiago Casilla has lost it this year). Not saying that the Yankees are going to get Lucas Giolito for any package including these relievers, because that would be ridiculous, but they can pretty much drive the market when only Baltimore has a bullpen they are comfortable entering the playoffs with (Givens, Brach, O’Day, Britton).
jakegreenberg24
Also, anyone hear anything about Ryan Dull’s availability? Lack of a major league track record, but he has been dominant. Would think that many contenders and fringe teams would be interested as he is a controllable young arm that could be much cheaper than Chapman/Miller.
Snorgator
As an A’s fan I was bummed he didn’t make the all star game, he’s had an awesome season. I doubt the A’s would give him up this year due to how cheap/effective he has been, especially if Madson or Doolittle is dealt
stymeedone
And how much playoff experience does Chapman have?
jakegreenberg24
Who do you guys think has more value: Jurickson Profar or Javier Baez?
AcuƱa Matata
Baez. Better glove and so far better bat. Also not injured nearly as much as Profar
bluegorilla
Baez. Plus power at MIF and far more control with less injury history.
baseball0021
Profar. Less club control but I’d say better chance to be a regular because he’s plus defensively at 2B and doesn’t have as big strikeout concerns while still having some pop
One Fan
Baez’s defense is top notch. He can be a gold glover at third or second or even shortstop. At third he looks like Brooks Robinson. Profar on defense is top notch as well and can also play multiple positions but I am just saying that if you watch Javy Baez play defense you will be very impressed as is Joe Maddon
Polez
Yankees need to give Texas a call. Gallo would be a great addition and his power to RF would be welcomed. All this Schwarber talk is getting old. If I was Cashman I would block Epsteins number. We told the Cubs what we want and now they keep throwing other names around, Volgebach etc.. I would love to send Chapman for Gallo or worst case scenario is to send Miller for Gallo and a starting pitching prospect. The Rangers need an arm in the pen and the Yankees have what you need.
johncena2016
The Rangers wouldn’t give Gallo for Chapman.
chound
Absolutely. There’s way to much value in Gallo for that.
stymeedone
If the Rangers wouldn’t trade their excess for a need, they should just sell and start a youth movement. If they are so enamored with Gallo, then they wouldn’t have signed Beltre. Obviously they are not totally confident in Gallo.
Okie_baseball
Why does every single article have to address this? Gallo is not a long term third baseman. That’s why he plays half of his minors games in LF. He is a solid, bat first prospect and the Beltre signing didn’t affect him because Beltre doesn’t block him defensively.
Voice of Reason
The rangers are simply not trading Gallo for a reliever. Especially for less than half a season.
GeauxRangers
I’m assuming that you know what the Yankees traded for Chapman and I’m wondering how you now think they are going to get a top 10 prospect in MLB for him.
One Fan
So Polez you are privy to the conversations between the yankees and cubs. Cashman lets you know huh? Or is your info from people on this site making comments! Give it a rest. You have no clue. Maybe its the Yankees who keep calling. Maybe Theo should block the number. This Yankee begging and pleading for Schwarber is getting old. You cant have him. Period.
johncena2016
Unless they can get Lucroy, Miller, Gray, or Tehran, I’d keep him.
baumer16
Gray or Tehran would cost significantly more than Profar. I don’t see the Brewers having much interest in Profar.
mjames1273
Profar and Gallo for Teheran, Vizcaino, O’Flarety, and Aybar.
Twentyone21
Just don’t see ATL being overly interested in Profar and losing Tehran. They already landed Swanson as the SS of the future. I think they are pretty stocked with prospects and about to start the build.
krillin
I agree with this statement. Although those prospects are highly ranked, I just don’t see this being a good fit for Atlanta.
Chief Knockahoma
Coppy will gladly move Julio and Vizcaino for Gallo and Profar. Both can play 3rd and/or Left. No brained.
GreenCustom24
Only if they could turn around and flip Profar for something really good afterward. Or make it a 3 team real where they don’t even see Profar. As much as we’d love him, it’s becoming increasingly likely that we’re ending the year/going into next year with an infield of Freeman, Albies, Swanson and Garcia. Unless they feel Profar is worth the upgrade at 3rd over Garcia and will play well enough to justify blocking Ruiz/D Peterson/etc.
Interesting though… We just don’t “need” him.
southi
While Rio Ruiz is a third base prospect, Dustin Peterson is an outfield prospect in AA Mississippi. I think you have him confused with his older brother DJ Peterson who is a 1b/3b prospect in the Mariners organization.
None of those (Garcia included) would in any way block Profar from third in Atlanta. You can always work around an excess of good players (not sure Garcia even qualifies).
baseball0021
I think it’s an overpay for Texas, sure they could use pitching help but Vizcaino has really scuffled lately and Aybar has negative value at this point. Also no guarantees that Albies and Swanson work out, so you can’t say that Atlanta wouldn’t want Profar
robidebd
The Rangers would Never trade Profar and Gallo in the same trade for a #3/4 Starter in the AL and a Closer that’s on the DL. Braves fans seriously to Quit expecting every GM to be as Stupid as Dave Stewart of the Diamondbacks!!!
krillin
I am just curious, Which team has a #3 starter with a 2.70 ERA?
bravesfan1234
In his last 25 starts there are 4 pitchers in all of baseball with lower ERA’s than Teheran. The only ones better in that span? Kershaw, Strasburg, Bumgarner, and Arrieta. Yeah, but in the AL he is a 3 starter. LOL. Good lord, I think some of these people have never watched a game in their life.
krillin
I am not trying to say Teheran is like a Arrieta or Kershaw caliber player. I can agree that on a lot of teams he would be a number 2 guy. But to say 3 seems a stretch, to mention 4 is just crazy. Even if you were to add .5 ERA to him hypothetically being in the AL I would still consider him a 2
stevefrench
You mean the guy that had over a 4 ERA last year in the easiest pitching division in baseball?? Yeah, that guy. But please, quote his present ERA cause that’s a good measure and predictor of his value.
bravesfan1234
Not even sure I would want Profar and Gallo. Profar is injury prone with less control left than Teheran and the injury supposedly sapped some of his power. In 132 AB he has hit a whopping 8 extra base hits in a hitter friendly park no less. Gallo is a strikeout machine with questionable defense. He’s striking out nearly 30% of the time in AAA. Pretty far from a sure thing at this point. He could be a AAAA player.
krillin
Yes, I mean a guy who has a 3.45 ERA after 3 full big league seasons as a starter and only being 25. That guy
stevefrench
Just to be sure, the slender built drop and drive guy without any true plus off speed offerings. And a 3.45 era in your division isn’t that great bud. Sure it will be a hit in the al east or central. Actually it will literally be a hit…after hit..after hit…
stevefrench
But why are we even using ERA though? He’s a career 3.88 FIP, 3.8 this year, in a weak division with weak opponents so far. Check his game logs. Only thing he has is age and a good contract. But that doesn’t get hitters out. Should return a quality piece, but nowhere close to what you guys *expect*
krillin
You mean the division with the reigning MVP and National league champs? Oh.
stevefrench
I guess one player makes up for an entire division. And the mets won on pitching. We all know that. Stop being an *sshat
krillin
to be fair, the NL east had 2 of the top 3 run scoring offenses in the NL, and that is not including the Nationals.
I wish I could shake your hand though, it has been fun debating with you. And I mean that with zero sarcasm.
stevefrench
It has been fun, but to be fair, the top scoring teams in the nl are the cards, Rockies, Cubs, Giants, Nationals, the pirates. In order. Only one nl eat team in the top 6. using only Runs scored to also be fair though. I’d have to check on run differential if that is what you were using. I was just using pure offense
krillin
I should have been more clear. I was referencing 2015, because of you talking about Teheran’s bad year last year.
bravesfan1234
Interesting. He just threw 7 scoreless innings against the Rockies. They managed three hits against him.
stevefrench
So there were 2 of the top 5, and as a result he had a bad year. Kind of a zero sum point. And he did handle the Rockies, he also handles the bosox earlier. You’re right. But I still do not think he can do it consistently. Even his xFip is above 4
krillin
Yeah I have to give credit where credit is due. I sorted my stats wrong. My bad homie
Ungerdog
I agree completely…Profar is a .250 hitter at best – his babip is over inflated this year (.378) – he’s not worth nearly as much as all these Rangers fans think he is…he is a career ,270 hitter in the minors…
stymeedone
Yeah but xfip isn’t the actual stat. ERA is. And he has a damn fine one.
One Fan
I agree with stevefrench. There is no established track record on him. Last year he was not very good. This year he is. His value is in between
GeauxRangers
I don’t even want Gray at all at this point. He has been awful this season
staypuft
I can’t believe he’s only 23. Feels like he’s been around forever.
krillin
I was thinking the same.
BRETT006
I just cannot handle this…two bombers the Rangers gave away for relief arms (C. Davis, pending J. Gallo). It will suck watching two guys hit 40 homers a season who could have easily been in the Rangers lineup.
MiamiPhins34
Davis wasn’t going to make it here. The pressure of playing for his hometown team was too much. The change of scenery did him a lot of good.
Twentyone21
Sonny Gray to Texas makes the most sense if the Rangers were to part with Profar or Gallo. Oakland landing Profar would certainly make up for them losing Addison Russell. As a Tigers fan if the team doesn’t continue winning and cutting into Cleveland’s lead, Avila needs to sell. Put JV, Kinsler, VMart and KRod on the market. Very unlikely the Tigs sell, but they are strapped with big contracts.
krillin
It may just be me, but I am not too high on Addison Russell. I don’t think he is a long time answer.
johncena2016
He should be pretty solid, maybe borderline Allstar. But he won’t be as good as Correa, Story, Xander, and Lindor.
baseball0021
Story has had an impressive half season but he’s not that tier of player just yet
babybears
Glyber Torres is the future SS if it isn’t Russell. Baez will be the 3rd SS 2nd utility guy. Happ will be the 2nd baseman after Zobrist retires. If the Cubs win a WS this year there will be changes and trades for more pitching.
adshadbolt
You all are forgetting the fact that Russell is 22 and got rushed to the big leagues. He plays gold glove defense even though he won’t probably ever win one. And he will produce offensively I would look for him to have a big second half. Oh and Torres is Baez 2.0 big swing, lot of strike outs, decent power and I’m sorry if u want power but a guy that hits .240 and hits 20-25 is not that valuable to me a guy that hits .280- .300 with 10-15 is way more valuable
krillin
I am not saying he sucks or anything. I just think he is just a little overhyped. I mean if I had a gun to my head I would say he is a top 5 NL SS.
billysbballz
Ranger fans take a deep breath. Profar is a nice young player with decent bat but his arm is a question and he’s not worth the haul you think you’ll get in return. Gallo is no lock to stick at third and at first yes he gives you big power when he actually makes contact which doesn’t seem to be enough. For the blogger who posted chapman and Miller for Gallo? Your crazy!
mikeyst13
Profar for Lucroy is not going to happen. Between the shoulder questions, the glut of middle infielders Milwaukee is already sitting on, and the fact that he only has 3 years of control left they would pass. Think they’ve made it pretty clear to Texas that the price of Lucroy is Gallo and Texas seems to have made it clear that won’t happen.
Crewfan620
Gallo + actually. I know Texas fans love their prospects, but Gallo is still exactly that. Lucroy is a proven asset that will make a greater impact now than Gallo will. Plus with players of Lucroy’s level and value and the competition to land him on the market, Milwaukee could be in a position for a significant overpay which makes a lot of this trade speculation pointless. Everyone wants to submit a proposal that is fair, when in reality, its not going to be a “fair” deal. Someone will likely cough up that extra prospect.
mikeyst13
Yes, it would be Gallo plus another minor piece or two, or I could see Brinson with a better second piece and a throw in. My point was Profar wouldn’t be the target for Milwaukee.
daveinmp
I wouldn’t rule out Profar being involved in a Lucroy deal either by adding a third team to the mix or Brewers seeing opportunity to market Profar this winter. There’d be plenty of takers.
jose carlos
Maybe the Rangers could ask Red Sox for a straight up exchange with catcher/left fielder Blake Swihart. He’s controlled 2 more years (2022) than Profar and solves their need for a young switch hitting catcher, a position that Swihart feels more confortable with.
mikeyst13
There is a reason Swihart has moved out from behind the plate. In 83 games last year he had 16 PB 43 WP (which obviously aren’t all his fault, but speaks volumes about his blocking skills), and threw out only 28% of runners. In only 6 games behind the plate this year he had 3 PB, 4 WP, and threw out only 1 of 4 runners. That gives him a -17 drs behind the plate. His future is in the OF.
krillin
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t 28% above average, or no? I can’t disagree with the point you are making though:)
mikeyst13
League average last year was 32%, this year it sits at 30%.
krillin
Thanks for looking that up:)
Mike M 2
Swihart has no future in Boston as an OF. Benintendi is already better than him. Chris Young and Brock Holt are your bench guys.
mikeyst13
I didn’t say it had to be in Boston, but his future does not seem to be behind the plate no matter where he is. I would think either he or Holt would be used as a trade chip either this summer or in the off season.
jose carlos
Your analysis is right on and I also agree with you that he is better off in the outfield. Nevertheless, Swihart is a good player with upside at offence and athletic enough to play very well the outfield along with Desmond, Mazara and Shoo. Bear in mind that Desmond is a free agent next year and will cost a lot more then than the Rangers are paying him now. Maybe to balance out the deal the Red Sox would be glad to include Clay Buchholz to close it out. This could be the change of scenery that Clay is looking for in order to get the hell out of Boston. Don’t forget that he can still pitch well if you don’t mess with him and the Rangers are also looking now for a veteran pitcher to support their rotation.
Hey just noticed that both of these guys are Texans!!! What a coincidence.
adshadbolt
It’s not that the Red Sox thought he couldn’t catch it’s they wanted his bat in the lineup and Vasquez( who people think is the next yadi) is a really good defensive catcher
mikeyst13
The numbers speak for themselves, he is not going to stay behind the plate full time with those kinds of defensive metrics unless he becomes Mike Piazza with the bat. He seemed to improve his defense in the minors, but it all went south once he got up. And lets be clear, only Red Sox fans would dare to call Vazquez the next Yadi.
stymeedone
No, Boston didn’t think he could catch, after trying him there.
stymeedone
What would Boston need Profar for? He would just block future HOF Moncada.
nolannowitzki
if this rangers tailspin doesn’t slow down within the next 10-14 days or so i am not sure they have any business being a buyer.
GeauxRangers
Still have the most wins in the AL and if we get some mid rotation pieces I think we will be fine. I like Matt Moore and Cashner as upgrades over what we have now and I don’t think they would cost a ton since I think they are both FAs after this season
Michael A. Gould
Rangers would have to get someone like Archer to give up Profar.
And Profar is not injury-prone. He had one very unusual injury that was re-aggravated.
Ungerdog
wow…why can’t people on here at least try to look at the value of their team’s players/prospects a little more objectively? Profar for Archer? loco…Archer would command a lot more in return, for a plethora of reasons, if he weren’t already deemed off limits by Tampa.
MiamiPhins34
Wow…why do people automatically assume when someone says “would have to get someone like Archer TO GIVE UP Profar” that it means a straight up trade. Sorry he didn’t come up with a complete trade scenario for you, but that is flat out wrong to think he meant Profar for Archer and that’s it.
Ungerdog
I know he didn’t mean straight up, I’m not that naive. but I assumed he meant that Profar would be the key piece for a trade AND he implied that it would take a pitcher of Archer’s overall value to get Profar, which with I completely disagree.
cbf82
They need to just hang onto him and Gallo. Maybe if something comes available in the off season or at next years deadline, then pull the trigger. Dont be sucked into this terrible market just cause theyre in a bad stretch. Trade a few lower level guys for adequate relief pitchers and just roll with what you got.
Lets see what Yu has this time off the DL. Lets see if Colby and Derek can come back next month. Griffin has been serviceable. Just keep fighting
nolannowitzki
exactly how i feel.
letsgost8
Hellickson and Rupp for Profar should get it done. Profar would be a great upgrade at 2b for the Phillies rebuild.
flyerzfan12
As a Phillies fan, I agree that I have a lot of interest in Profar at 2B. But I don’t see that being enough for him even with Rupp being under team control thru 2020. But if that package could get it done, then I’m down.
Unfortunately, I just don’t see the Phillies having that piece to give up to the Rangers. Yes the Rangers need 3 pieces the Phillies could give up (SP – Hellickson, C – Rupp, RP – Gomez/Hernandez/Neris), but I don’t think any of those pieces are good enough even in combination to land someone with Profar’s upside.
MiamiPhins34
Are you the guy from the other thread that proposed this? If so, stop? Hellickson really isn’t good. He would get murdered back in the AL.
stymeedone
If he’s still there when the rebuild is complete. It’s not like Profar has 6 years of control left. Name a team that completed a rebuild in 3 years.
User 3218710645
Don’t follow the Rangers much so I could be off base here. But would it make sense to trade profar for colome and one of the Rays starters?
Abbazabba040
I am a Rangers fan and I proposed this scenario this morning to a friend. A deal that included a profar package for colome and Moore.
stymeedone
Pick one because Profar isn’t worth both.
Ungerdog
personally, I don’t think he’s even worth Moore…he’s a ,250 hitter at best with 3 years of Rays level control left…
therealryan
I’m with you. At this time I would rather have 3.5 years of either Moore or Odorizzi over 3.5 years of Profar.
dw007
There’s a reason for the “tons of interest” in Profar. HIs perceived value is based in his defensive abilities, switch hitting for average, controllable years and plus makeup. Jon Daniels is not stupid enough to trade him for a rental (Chapman), trade him to a division rival (Sonny Gray) or unload him just to make a splashy trade to please the fans. Daniels is also creative & just may find a way to turn all of this interest in Profar into a deal for other middle- infield assets in the Ranger system, including Andrus or Odor. . Daniels should/will stand pat before trading Profar for anyone not named Chris Sale, or some other rabbit he can pry from some mystery team’s hat.
RyanSlade22
I don’t see why ATL would not be interested, he would be quite an upgrade at 3rd base. I think a deal centered around him would be a good start for Teheran.
Toksoon
Does profar come with a warranty? A lot of fuss over a guy who has missed the last 3 seasons
madmanTX
Nobody comes with a warranty. Profar has played healthy this season and showed pop, speed and excellent fielding.
stymeedone
That’s what the Dodgers said about McCarthy when they signed him : he played healthy THIS year.
drolet03
Why not trade profar and a couple of second tier prospects for Brewers starting pitcher jimmy Nelson and lucroy
drolet03
Seems like a reasonable trade
mikeyst13
Profar only has 3 years of control left, which means by the time the Brewers are getting to where they want to be on their rebuild he’d be a free agent. They could still try to extend him or flip him later, but they are more likely to target multiple top prospects. Plus Lucroy and a decent starter with 4 years of control should fetch more than Profar and 2 mid prospects.
drolet03
What about profar and a couple of second tier prospects for Brewers starting pitcher jimmy Nelson and lucroy? Seems reasonable
ciscokid52
I would take Profar for the A’s. With the likelihood of Reddick’s and Coco’s departures after this year (or sooner), we’ll need OF help. Burns was optioned to AAA so Profar would be a perfect fit. The A’s could part with Hill given the Rangers are eyeballing rotation help and maybe we can toss in a prospect of some sort given Hill’s rental status.
Bob M.
Why wouldn’t they be? He is the former #1 prospect in baseball and is showing that he is back.
Bob M.
I’d probably move Odor before him. Just sayin
Okie_baseball
Odor has provided some much needed power in the middle of that lineup though. But in the end I guess I wouldn’t totally disagree with you.
Bob M.
All I know is the Rangers don’t I’ve a ton of leverage in talks. The market is extremely scarce for starting pitching and if there is one team in contention with a massive obvious need it’s the Rangers.
Okie_baseball
True but we also have one of the deeper minor leagues. I think that is why Daniels is being so patient. Closer to the deadline some of these sellers are going to realize that a Shelby Miller deal isn’t going to happen with us and they will take what they can get, which will still be some good guys. Just not Gallo or Profar.
jstamped
Profar and Gallo to the Reds for Bruce De Jesus and DeSclafni
Okie_baseball
haha annnnnnd Daniels hangs up
mikeyst13
Pretty sure he’d be laughing too hard to hang up.
Paolo
Teams get too cozy with their prospects sometimes. Competitive seasons or division titles are nice, but It’s all about winning championships. And sometimes you have a small window or a unique magical season where all your players are having career years. Just ask the Dodgers how hanging onto their blue-chip prospects when all they needed was a quality rent-a-player worked out for them..,.. Championship was theirs for the taking for a couple of years, but they wouldn’t part with a prospect to get the player they needed. Now Grienke is gone and Kershaw is going to start aging…. and poof– the window is closed with a 250M payroll…. If the Rangers really think they can win a championship with a key piece, you just overpay to get that piece, and enjoy the parade after you win the WS.
Okie_baseball
Or you sell the future and regret it like the Astros currently for Giles, the DBacks for Miller, or the Padres for well… everybody. I get what you’re saying, fans get caught up on prospects, but the opposite is true as well; fans get on here and try to discredit another team’s prospects so that they can rationalise a Shelby Miller style haul for their team. As a Rangers fan I have been fairly happy with our fanbase and how they have responded to the “Gallo is awful” retoric. We realize that our FO is a good one and laugh at the Chapman for Gallo comments knowing with full certainty that our GM trusts in our farm system and would rather be consistently in contention than sell the farm on a rental… because there are zero sure things anywhere in this awesome game.
baumer16
You can also list a ton of trades where selling a part of their future worked out great. Look at last year, do the Royals win it all without Cueto and Zobrist? That’s a strong hell no, but now they are champions so who cares about those prospects. I’m a firm believer in going for the throat when you have a chance. Each year is different but you guys have what a 5.5 game lead on the stros, just go for it. You never know what could happen the next year with injuries and and free agency signings by other teams. Obviously that doesn’t mean making a Shelby Miller trade if your the dbacks but I would have no problem “losing” a trade if that meant my chances of a championship went up significantly
Okie_baseball
I agree but there are good and bad opportunities to “go for the throat.” Our track record with rentals is not good. Dempster was awful and Matt Garza was worse. Honestly I hope that Darvish stays healthy and we trade for a middle rotation guy, then wait on Lewis and Holland to get back. Everyone seems to think we are desperate, we have won 9 of 10 against the Astros. There is no reason to sell the farm. Our model has been to stay consistent in the Jon Daniels era. We do that by trusting our player development.
baumer16
I don’t think you should sell the farm by any means. But if you don’t make significant upgrades to at least one of the areas of sp, bullpen or catching that would be a major fail on Daniels part I think. Which I’m sure he will but just saying
Okie_baseball
Oh I agree and Daniels will upgrade. The deadline is our time traditionally.
Priggs89
The Astros didn’t even come close to selling their future… And I don’t really think they regret the trade all that much. The only 2 players they sent away that look like big league players are Velasquez and Fisher. Yes, Giles is having a down year so far, but his ERA is super inflated when you compare it to his FIP, and they have him locked up for a LONG time. I like his odds to bounce back and be as dominant as he was with Philly. They may have regretted it in the beginning of the year when they were playing like garbage, but now they have things rolling again, and everything appears good to go moving forward. And they also have an elite farm system with a ton of talent still. Bad example IMO.