Indians right-hander Danny Salazar is headed for what the club is calling a precautionary MRI due to discomfort in his right elbow, as MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian writes. “There’s something in my elbow,” said Salazar following a rough outing against the Twins on Monday. “I don’t know what it is. We don’t know. I think we’re going to find out tomorrow.” Manager Terry Francona said that Salazar’s elbow has been bothering him for at least a couple of weeks. Salazar had Tommy John surgery prior to making his big league debut and said the discomfort he feels in his elbow feels “totally different” than the pain he felt when he tore his ulnar collateral ligament. Nonetheless, there’s clearly some cause for concern, especially due to a recent decline in Salazar’s velocity (as Bastian highlights in his column).
A few more notes from the game’s Central divisions…
- The Royals’ decision to stand pat at yesterday’s trade deadline was a surprise to some, considering the fact that Kansas City has fallen to 50-55 and has at best a narrow window to make the postseason. General manager Dayton Moore spoke about the team’s lack of trades with Sam Mellinger of the Kansas City Star, stating that he wants to give his players a chance to “dig back out of this mess we’re in.” More interesting, perhaps, was his take on righty Edinson Volquez, who has a mutual option on his contract for the 2017 season that figures to be declined one way or another. While he wouldn’t firmly commit to the notion, Moore suggested that the team could very well make Volquez a qualifying offer at season’s end, which is projected to be worth $16.7MM, as ESPN’s Buster Olney recently reported. Said Moore of Volquez: “We’ll see. Obviously we have to evaluate that, but that’s certainly a part of our thinking.”
- The Pirates had a tough decision when determining whether the club was better-served by betting on Francisco Liriano returning to form or acquiring multiple years of Drew Hutchison and creating some financial flexibility, GM Neal Huntington explained to MLB.com’s Adam Berry. As Berry notes, the financial flexibility the Pirates gained by shedding the remaining money on Liriano’s contract will be significant in 2017 when Gerrit Cole and Tony Watson, among others, are due arbitration raises and other players signed to extensions see their salaries naturally escalate. Huntington said that the Pirates have liked Hutchison and right-hander Ivan Nova (also acquired at yesterday’s non-waiver deadline) for quite some time, adding that while it was difficult to part with outfield prospect Harold Ramirez and catching prospect Reese McGuire, the team dealt from positions of depth. Berry adds that the Bucs talked with the Rays about their starters at length but were asked for a minimum of two of their top five prospects in return — too lofty a price for Huntington’s liking.
- Reds president of baseball operations Walt Jocketty spoke with the Cincinnati Enquirer’s C. Trent Rosecrans about the difficulty of trading away a homegrown slugger like Jay Bruce even in the midst of a rebuild. “It was extremely tough to make the deal,” said Jocketty. “We’ve talked about it for some time, but until it actually happens, it doesn’t set in. …It was tough to say goodbye to him.” Reports on Monday indicated that medical concerns over one of the minor leaguers that was said to be in the initial iteration of the Bruce deal — said to be centered around outfielder Brandon Nimmo — slowed the deal. Rosecrans,though, hears that multiple prospects that would’ve come to the Reds failed to live up to the Reds’ medical standards, leading to further discussion. Jocketty also spoke a bit about Zack Cozart, who was reportedly nearly traded to Seattle, stating that Cozart isn’t someone the team is actively looking to move. Rosecrans adds that talks with the Mariners did take place but fell apart over the course of the day.
ronnsnow
Worst trade of Huntington’s tenure as GM. McGuire may appear to be blocked by Cervelli and Diaz, but at least wait until he’s closer to being major league ready before you deal him. McGuire could have become a very valuable trade chip, instead he was just given away for nothing.
southi
It is very possible that McGuire could had netted more in return than his inclusion in a salary dump. Quality catching prospects are very few in number currently.
KermitJagger
I don’t usually buy into the “cheap Nutting regime” mantra but this looks 100% like a move dictated by ownership. My real fear is that Huntington gets tired of the penny pinching, takes a job with a big market club like the Yankees, and we are stuck with another era of Littlefield….GMs that don’t have the smarts to work within a tight budget like NH does.
npalley98
What smarts does NH have. He takes cheap pitchers and prays that searage can turn them around.
Robertowannabe
Wondering if what we all have heard about McGuires’s upside is not what he really was. If He was thought of as a great defense and little bat to go with it, this is not as bad as it seems. We will see how good or bad this deal was in about 3 years. It will take that long to see how both Ramirez and McGuire turn out.
A'sfaninUK
McGuire’s going to be a fine backup catcher for many years. That’s not as valuable as getting $17M off the books right now. .
Robertowannabe
We are in agreement on that. Hope for the Pirates sake, he is a fine backup and not a star. The funny thing is, many who complain about the Pirates say that they refuse to part with prospects and get more established players. Considering what the market was bearing this year, the Bucs did not give up as much as some did for not much more in return.
BoldyMinnesota
If McGuire gets a little more of his bat to produce, this is going to be terrible. Scouts have said he’ll be s starter, just because of his defence alone, whatever his bat adds is just a plus
Robertowannabe
Yeah, as I had said as well. It will depend on his bat regarding his playing time. If the bat improves, he will be a quality catcher. If it does not and he can’t do much against big league pitchers, may be more like Erik Kratz. He is bat is on the terrible end in the bigs but in the minors not to bad. A shame with his arm.
ironcity1980
Agreed gave away short term and long term success over few million dollars if an owner is that strapped for cash he should sale the team to someone with a checkbook that doesn’t grow mold
Mike 25
So Huntington didn’t want to trade for a real pitcher because they asked for top prospects, but he’s okay for trading to top 10 prospects for basically a dumpster
joew
the problem is the prospects they where asking for.. Two of Glasnow, Taillion, Bell, Meadows and Newman. No way i give one of those prospects up for anything less than Archer, let alone two especially when Glasnow and Taillion…. thats me…
But trading two top 10’s especially a top catching prospect just for a salary dump is .. well .. stupid. Hopefully, i’m wrong and Drew is great… but i really have my doubts.
Robertowannabe
Not saying he will be the same but JA Happ and AJ Burnett and Liriano when the Pirates picked him up 3 years ago were all considered dumpster dives. I am with you that Huchison is in the vein of those guys and not a AAAA guy instead.. Read a comparison of Both Nova and Hutchison’s stats with Burnett’s when we got him from the Yanks. Very similar. Here is to hoping their careers will turn out even close to AJ’s
joew
I hope so too. fan reports suggest Hutchison has some good stuff .. just doesn’t seem to work well in games. I have a feeling he’ll be stuck in AAA for quite some time (outside of injury/spot starts/etc)
37santobanks
I am glad to see that Brandon Phillips has to stay on the Reds for at least the rest of this season.
Rbase
He can still be traded if he passes trade waivers… I just don’t know why any team would be interested right now.
Robertowannabe
And waive his not trade clause depending on the other side of the deal……
redsfanman
Newly acquired Reds 2b Dilson Herrera is 52 days of service time away from a full year, he needs to be in AAA for that reason, if not others. Playing Phillips for the rest of 2016 and going into 2017 with Dilson Herrera as the starter is their best option, buying them a whole extra year of control.
Meanwhile 2b Dilson Herrera and SS Jose Peraza, about a month apart in age, get to work as a double play tandem in AAA.
Frank Kuchno
Reese was the price you pay for finding someone to take Liriano off of you hands.
5.46 ERA 1..619 WHIP most walks in the NL
(plus he’s owed $17,000,000 between now and October 2017)
schellis 2
I do enjoy how the Reds are trading for middle infielders but won’t move the one guy that they can move to open a spot for them.
Yes Phillips will clear waivers most likely, but he isn’t likely to accept a deal that doesn’t include a extension, with his current production I doubt that any team would be willing to do that.
I could see the Reds eating the contract, but you hate to see any players time end with a team in that fashion especially when they have been a quality player for said team for around a decade.
KermitJagger
How in the world is catcher a position of depth for the Pirates? We’ve got two injury-prone vets (Cervelli and Stewart) for the next few years. Beyond that we have only Diaz. He looks promising but is himself just returning from an extended injury break. Sure, McGuire hadn’t shown much offensively, but he still projected to be at least a quality backup to Diaz.
The trade was pretty much a punch to the gut for those of us that believed the club had emerged from the long years where clearing payroll often came before winning. I’m not saying this will end poorly but is sure as hell stinks to me. To go from supposedly (now I have my doubts) being in on a controllable young arm to this type of a deal in an hour made for a rough Monday evening for Bucs fans.
And you know it is bad when everyone, from the reactive yinzers to the most level-headed sports bloggers out there, called this a terrible trade.
joew
They have a handful of people to step in short term like Fryer and Stallings who are fair behind the plate and Fryer learned how to hit since the last time we had him…
So Cervelli -> Stewart -> Diaz -> Fryer -> Stallings, There are much worse…. Dumb trade but the pirates do have some catching depth.
A'sfaninUK
Ramirez was buried on the depth chart and has a reputation as a diva, this was nowhere near as bad a trade as people are making it out to be. McGuire can’t hit his way out of a paper bag either and has a ceiling of a backup catcher. The fact that people are comparing this with the Swanson trade is mind blowing and cannot be anything but trolling.
McGuire & Ramirez are the definition of overrated prospects. Stop overvaluing what they are. If this was Meadows youd have a point, but they’re not.
Robertowannabe
Was making the same point above. It will take 2-3 years to see how good or bad this deal was. Ramirez is what you say he is, better off without a diva type. Meadows was ahead of him anyway. As you said with McGuire, the Bucs may have decided his bat will never be huge in the majors. Yes he is still young but the league is littered with good defense and poor bat catchers holding down depth spots.
joew
Russell Martin really can’t hit all that well either. Out side of a couple seasons he hasn’t gotten over .250.. granted he has a bit a power go with that .250 but nothing spectacular… yet is he is in a 75 Million contract. Don’t under estimate the value of good defense first catchers which is what Diaz and McGuire are.. Also.. Russell is a freak.. boy i miss him.
Now McGuire probably won’t ever get to that level, but catcher is a position where if you got good defense anything above league average hitting is bonus.
I say this only ever seeing Reese play once briefly but he looked really good defensively and all reports seem to back it up.
Robertowannabe
Russell turned his couple of good seasons with his bat with the Pirates into a huge contract that will really bad as time goes with the Jays. Miss the player that was there with the Bucs but he is not the same player anymore. Kratz (now in the Jays fold) is a really good defensive guy too. Those guys bounce around. Nothing wrong with that and one can carve out a long career being such a player. TIme will tell how much Reese will play as he gets to AAA and sees MLB pitching after that. Bucs must have felt Diaz was a better option to keep than McGuire.
joew
Yeah from what we’ve saw of Diaz so far no problems on defense that is for sure, if he gets his bat to be around league average he could probably be a quality starter on most teams out there…. but still pretty early.
See, i don’t think Kratz or Fryer are all that great on defense.. maybe a bit above average.. which is why they are not out of work long.
Robertowannabe
Kratz has a gun for an arm. Have not seen him catch much for framing etc. so no idea on that part of the defense. Did make a nice career out of the arm though.
BoldyMinnesota
McGuires a former top 100 prospect who is young for his league and projects to have elite defense. Saying he’s going to be a backup as a ceiling already is premature. At his best, he’ll be a poor mans Martin or yadi, his floor is a backup catcher
Robertowannabe
I am not saying he will be a backup, just opining that maybe the Pirates were worried enough about his bat to make him available. Austin Meadows taken in the same year and the same age has hit for a ton. Apples and oranges due to talent and different positions. but for the age, he is in AAA now.. They see him on a daily basis. I hope that for his sake, Reese does well. Just thinking the Bucs decided his ceiling may not be as high as once thought.
jimmyz
Reese’s bat isn’t terrible though. Every report I’ve seen says he has a good, disciplined approach at the plate which is reflected by his near even BB/K rate for his minor league career and that one of his biggest problems is not being aggressive enough to look for and drive balls early in the count. His D is fine, if he spent next season repeating AA to get the bat to catch up he’d still be on a perfect timeline to replace Cervelli. If Diaz doesn’t pan out the Bucs don’t have another catcher waiting in the wings, Jin de Jhang wont cut it in the majors for a world series contender
holecamels35
The Pirates better use that money saved next season instead of just investing it in raises. They don’t have many holes but will need a mid rotation starter, reliever, and maybe keep Freese around if the price is right.
The days of teams being cheap is over with, if you can’t sustain a 100m payroll you should be contracted.
Bluesman
You’re right, MLB needs to have a salary cap, with the floor around $100 million, and the ceiling around $150 million.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
I guess the real question is how good is Hutchison?
If he can be a #3, it’s a great trade.
If he can be a #4, it’s a good trade.
If he can be a #5, it’s a bad trade.
If he can’t be a #5, it’s a terrible trade.
So…how good is Hutchison?
npalley98
From what ive seen he isnt even a fivr. Just another neise.