The Mets not only gave former quarterback Tim Tebow a $100K bonus, but handed him a cherished spot in the Arizona Fall League, and ESPN.com’s Keith Law argues (Insider link) that both were mistakes. Tebow, 29, lacks the baseline skill of his fellow entrants in the prospect-heavy offseason competition, Law opines after taking an in-person look. The prospect guru panned Tebow’s contact ability at the plate and his instincts in the field, and took no prisoners in assessing the totality of the situation: it was, in Law’s words, “a craven, mercenary move befitting an independent-league team desperate for the added revenue from ticket sales, not something a major league team with postseason aspirations should be doing.”
Here’s more from the NL East:
- Mets GM Sandy Alderson and manager Terry Collins sat down with Ken Davidoff of the New York Post this spring, talking through the season to come with the understanding that their comments wouldn’t be published until year end. At the time, none of the challenges that sprung up during the 2016 campaign were really evident, but both leaders noted the variability inherent in the game and acknowledged that the health of the rotation and lineup could never really be assured.
- Outgoing Nationals free agent Wilson Ramos had successful surgery today to repair ACL and meniscus tears in his right knee, as the team announced and Jon Heyman of Fan Rag first reported. Estimates of his recovery timeline are ranging between six and eight months — which would obviously push into the early or middle portion of the 2017 season. Given that uncertainty, but also Ramos’s young age (he just turned 29) and top-level production (.307/.354/.496 batting line, 22 home runs in 2016), his free agent case will be among the more interesting in recent memory.
- The Nationals not only suffered yet another heartbreaking NLDS exit last night, but also watched key reliever Shawn Kelley leave with what looked to be a potentially significant arm injury. He said after the game that he lost feeling in his hand after throwing his final pitch, but there seems to be hope that a major problem has been averted, as MLB.com’s Bill Ladson reports. Kelley suggested that he hopes “it’s just a nerve thing,” explaining that he experienced worsening numbness rather than suffering an acute injury. Kelley is owed $11MM over the next two years and just wrapped up an excellent 2.64 ERA showing in 2016, with 12.4 K/9 against 1.7 BB/9 over 58 frames. Needless to say, he’s an important part of the Nats’ relief corps, and the organization already will likely be hunting for a big pen arm with mid-season closer acquisition Mark Melancon hitting free agency.
- Newly-inked Braves third base coach Ron Washington thought at one point he’d land the team’s managerial job, as John Hickey of the Bay Area News Group reports. “I thought my interview was good to the point I got that I had the [managerial] job, no doubt in my mind,” Washington said. “But you never know what the other side is thinking and how it will go. They offered me a different job in the organization.” Though he missed on the top post, and could’ve earned the same money on a two-year deal to stay with the Athletics in a coaching capacity, Washington chose to take a position that would put him closer to home.
metseventually 2
Oh look, Keith Law ripping on the Mets…again.
What if…just what IF the Mets wanted to give him a chance? And what IF they signed him because he has the same agent as Cespedes?
Jeff Todd
When has Law been particularly harsh to Mets? I’ve heard complaints logged against just about every writer relating to their bias for/against lots and lots of different teams — especially those as opinionated and not shy as he is — so I’m naturally skeptical of such claims.
I do think there could be other organizational considerations at play here beyond boosting AFL ticket sales, or whatever, but I’ve not really seen anything to discredit his take from a scouting perspective.
mrnatewalter
The problem with Law’s article I have is less about an organizational bias and about him saying Tebow doesn’t belong in baseball.
You can make an argument about the AFL, fine. But to act as gatekeeper of who is arbitrarily deserving of playing baseball is asinine.
Law is not Skip Bayless, he should quit acting like him.
Jeff Todd
It does seem he’s offended at the concept given that he doesn’t see Tebow as a real prospect.
I don’t have a strong opinion on all of this myself. Definitely do not see reason to believe in Tebow the ballplayer, but he does seem to have handled it well on the whole … though I’ll admit to being turned off by the hawking of baseball autographs online. His actions the other day — hanging with the fan and talking with him after the seizure — were legitimately awesome.
Salionski
Reminds me when Greg Street was still the head honcho over at Blizzard. Every time a class got a buff in World of Warcraft the extremely vocal minority would scream that he buffed them because he plays that class. That class that he played changed every time there was a new buff/nerf wave.
ffjsisk
LEEROY JANKINS!!!!!
jd396
I once thought of someone writing scouting reports on Twins prospects had an anti-Twins bias. I could have sworn Michael Restovich was the real deal. He wasn’t. I got over it.
cgeorge321
Law has been particularly harsh towards Mets fans ever since they signed Jose Reyes:
espn.com/espnw/video/16518223/law-disappointed-met…
Ever since this happened he has been overly critical of Sandy Alderson, (ex. Tebow signing) does anyone else agree?
GloryDays
Law’s animosity towards the Mets likely stems from their hiring of J. P. Ricciardi for a front office job. Ricciardi was the GM in Toronto who hired Law, but it didn’t last long, and since he left the Blue Jays, Law has used his ESPN position to take potshots at Ricciardi.
Jeff Todd
Okay but what evidence is there of this bias?
cgeorge321
There is no concrete evidence of bias at work but I guess my point is I’m not surprised to read another article written by Keith Law harshly criticizing Met’s roster additions to improve their baseball team (and questionably compromising their morality on some level).
Not sure about the Ricciardi reference but there is a video of him condemning the Met’s core decision makers over the Jose Reyes addition.
To see a similar article denigrating GM Sandy Alderson over the Tebow signing (calling it a “farce”) and automatically jumping to the conclusion it was purely for publicity/$ is what I’d expect to read from Mr. Law. To further add to this reoccurring theme, his other article published about the Met’s this year in August was labeled: “Jay Bruce trade does not help struggling Mets”.
Do you see a pattern? I’d actually be much more shocked if his future articles do not sleight the Mets roster moves in some way.
slider32
Mets have bigger fish to fry this winter, they are going nowhere without Cespedes.
theruns
The Mets fate has more to do with their pitching health than anything. If their pitching is healthy they could put Tim Tebow in LF and make a playoff run.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
There is nothing wrong with giving Tebow a chance.
Law is just jealous because he looks like a gargoyle next to Tebow! =)
tsolid 2
You’re prob one the same one on twitter that says Law hates the Orioles. Tebow Has a LONG, barred out swing, plus he caught fly balls like a little leaguer during his workout. PLEASE tell me how deserved a chance at the AFL.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
First, I don’t have Twitter. I can’t imagine how much of a nightmare it would be to have twitter. Twitter and me…. NO
Second, I said there is nothing wrong with giving him a chance, I did not say he deserved a chance.
chesteraarthur
If Tebow doesn’t deserve a chance and he ends up taking reps from anyone who does, then there is something wrong.
tsolid 2
Excuse my accusation. There are PLENTY of people that have accused Law of hating the O’s. He deserves a chance, but not in the AFL
davidcoonce74
That’s the problem, right? Teams are allowed to send 3 or 4 prospects maximum to the AFL. Tebow is not only not a prospect, he’s not even committed enough to the game to be a full-time player. (Tebow is taking Fridays and Saturdays off to do commentary on college football). The AFL doesn’t play games on Sundays.
So Tebow can spout all the hogwash he wants about being really committed to the sport and really working hard to make it and sacrificing and blah blah blah but in the end he’s a part-time player. In a fall league where the real prospects are putting in major overtime to improve. Tebow isn’t going to get better playing four days a week.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Honestly, who pays attention to AFL games?
I mean even when prospects get the chance like Oriole pitchers (Bundy and Harvey) they were shut down only after a few innings. So even when legit prospects are given a shot, they might not last very long because of injury or worry of injury. Also, from what I understands it’s not like 1000’s of fans attend these games, it’s just the few baseball diehards jonesing for baseball. So again, I don’t see the big deal here.
Zach725
it’s a huge deal. It determines what kind of playing time you will see in spring training. It can show that you are ready for MLB.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
How many pitches did Bundy throw in the AFL last year before getting shut down? This whole paying time is a crock. Plus, how many hits did Kim have in Spring Training for the O’s this year? Hardly any and then his bat bloomed and this was after refusing to go to AAA.
So, Tebow taking some time here, is NOT a Big Deal.
His teammates seem to like him.
davidcoonce74
Teams generally take the AFL very seriously, as it’s a chance for scouts to see other teams prospects, etc. Tebow is wasting everybody’s time basically.
davidcoonce74
Also, pitchers and position players are a different breed
Lance
Players failing at one sport and trying another is nothing new. I think of Drew Henson and Chad Hutchinson, who couldn’t make it in MLB and went to the NFL…both played for Dallas with no success. Cowboys were bad at the time and desperate. Same with Donald Harris who didn’t make it as a Texas Ranger and tried the Cowboys. But at least Harris, Hutch and Drew were good at football in college. Tebow didn’t play college baseball. So far, he’s 0-9 in the AFL and has yet to hit a ball out of the infield. Big difference between batting practice and actual game experience against good prospects.
slider32
Teams that need a catcher, Braves, Mets, Nats, Rays, Twins,, R,ockies, Reds Tigers, and Angels. Of these teams only the Nats, Mets, and Tigers, are contenders. Available catchers in free agency Wieters, Ramos, and Lucroy possibly. Ramos signs with the the Tigers, McCann and Lucroy sign with the Nats, and Braves and Wieters signs with the Angels.
RockHard
Lucroy got his contract for next year picked up by Texas.. did you actually think they would trade that package for him and then decline their team option?Smh lol
takeyourbase
Lucroy has a cheap option and Mc Cann is under contract.
halos101
angels aren’t spending money on a catcher with the season bandy just had. And there’s no way imaginable that texas declines lucroys cheap option
cheese
McCann somehow becomes a free agent and lucroy gets his option declined also just in Dee Gordon will hit 50 home runs next year
MatthewBaltimore23
Why would Texas not pick up Lucroy’s option? And also McCann is not a free agent.
theruns
Ramos isn’t catching next year and there is zero chance Lucroy isn’t in Texas.
McCann will go somewhere before he turns into a pumpkin but they won’t get much for him.
BlueSkyLA
Somebody was going to suffer another heartbreaking NLDS exit last night….
jd396
Don’t sugar coat the Tebow scouting report for us now.
DelUnser4ever
You are all wrong…Law hates the Phillies organization. But really all of the vitriol directed at Tebow and the Metz suggests a lack of journalistic integrity…that is of course, you consider Law to be a journalist
DelUnser4ever
Mets sorry
DelUnser4ever
If you consider Law to be a journalist.
TDKnies 2
Probably shouldn’t comment on something I haven’t read (Insider Only) so I can really only say I hope Law didn’t make it personal. If you’re gonna be perfectly blunt with criticisms, it doesn’t hurt to make it explicitly clear that it’s strictly about performance. Some of the comments I did see (Tebow looks like an actor playing pretend) are damn harsh even if they’re accurate statements, and it’s not hard to see people reading them as “Wow he hates this guy” instead of “Wow he really thinks this guy is terrible at baseball.”
Not that he needs me or anyone else here to tell him how to write, but that’s the concern that came to my mind when I saw some of the reactions to his article.
davidcoonce74
If you didn’t read it then why are you writing about it? I read it – insider is like 3$ a month, btw – and it strictly talked about his on-field performance. Basically, tebow’s complete inability to get around on even below-average fastballs and inability to run routes in the outfield. He specifically mentioned that Tebow rolled over two 90-mph fastballs, and that an actual hitter never rolls over on fastballs, just on breaking pitches. That’s worrisome on many levels. Any legit prospect at any level should be able to square up a fastball.
The Mets criticism is harsh but deserved. This is a publicity stunt. They’re selling lots of jerseys. Tebow is selling his autograph. There is plenty to be critical of here, especially since he’s taking a roster spot from a more deserving player.
TDKnies 2
I mean, I agree with all of that. But what does it have to do with me saying I hoped Law made it clear in his writing that it wasn’t a personal shot at Tebow as opposed to his scouting opinion?
davidcoonce74
He didn’t say anything personal whatsoever about Tebow besides his scouting evaluation of him. He was only critical of the Mets whom put him in position to fail.
GrandBigB
The criticism in the article (of what was available) made law to be a guy who just really hates the mets. He rags on tebow and really doesn’t need to. I know he was trying to sugar coat it but it seemed he was really trying to express the grief of tebow getting a chance; giving him a shot is fine, I know the AFL is big but you don’t have to rag on everything about the guy going, at least look positive
davidcoonce74
Tebow isn’t even giving it his best shot though – he’s only playing four games a week, taking weekends off to do college football tv stuff. If he’s not taking it seriously I don’t know why other people should.