Feb. 1: Despite Stewart’s comments, Carter “made it clear” to Jim Bowden of ESPN and MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM that he wants to play in Major League Baseball as opposed to signing a contract overseas (Twitter link).
Jan. 31, 10:48pm: Topkin writes that Stewart told him as recently as tonight that nothing was close between Carter and the Rays. As Topkin explains, Tampa Bay is taking its time in evaluating multiple right-handed bats for a spot on their roster.
6:08pm: It’s been a slow-moving market for slugger Chris Carter this winter, and agent Dave Stewart (the former Diamondbacks GM who has resumed control of his agency since being replaced in Arizona) tells Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that signing in Japan is a possibility. “I think at some point we have to make it a serious consideration,” said Stewart, who also tells Rosenthal that Carter received interest from Japanese clubs last winter before signing with the Brewers.
Carter hit .222/.321/.499 and tied Nolan Arenado for the National League lead with 41 home runs in 2016, but Milwaukee elected not to tender him a contract for the 2017 season. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz had projected an $8.1MM salary for Carter, and Carter’s glut of strikeouts (an NL-high 206) and lack of defensive value led the Brewers to consider a raise of that nature too steep.
The rest of the league, it seems, has generally agreed with the Brewers’ assessment, as there’s hardly been a robust market for his services. That this offseason’s free-agent market was teeming with defensively limited sluggers certainly couldn’t have helped Carter’s case, but it’s nonetheless a bit surprising that his camp is giving consideration to signing overseas.
Rosenthal cites Stewart and other league sources as stating that the Rays offer the best opportunity for Carter at this point. Stewart tells Rosenthal he’s spoken with Tampa Bay enough to “know what they’re thinking” but adds that talks haven’t advanced just yet. That gels with a recent tweet from Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times, who reported that while the Rays are considering many options, nothing is close with Carter or with fellow right-handed slugger Mike Napoli.
Rosenthal writes that the Rangers, another potential fit, are seemingly more focused on Napoli and have told Stewart that they may rotate younger players at first base (which would be a poor outcome for both Carter and Napoli). Perhaps the Rangers would take a more serious look at Carter in the event that Napoli signed elsewhere, but Napoli has seemingly struggled to find a multi-year deal all winter, and most teams have filled their first base and designated hitter voids already.
The Yankees, for instance, signed Matt Holliday to a one-year deal at the start of the Winter Meetings, while the Astros signed Carlos Beltran to a similar pact and also acquired Brian McCann from New York (pushing Evan Gattis further into the DH mix). Boston filled its first base/DH void by inking Mitch Moreland to a one-year deal (he’ll pair with Hanley Ramirez), while the Rockies went outside the box and signed Ian Desmond to be their regular first baseman. The Blue Jays, meanwhile, quickly grabbed Kendrys Morales to replace Edwin Encarnacion, only to see Encarnacion’s market stagnate to the extent that the Indians were able to land him on a three-year, $60MM deal.
More recently, the Royals agreed to a two-year deal with Brandon Moss, removing yet another on-paper fit. And the Orioles, a once-popular prediction as Carter’s ultimate landing spot, re-signed Mark Trumbo and acquired Seth Smith, thus making it hard to see Carter fitting into the picture.
And yet despite all that movement, Carter and Napoli are hardly alone as first baseman/designated hitters remaining in free agency. Pedro Alvarez, Logan Morrison, Adam Lind, Mark Reynolds, Billy Butler, Justin Morneau and Ryan Howard are all still on the market and hoping to find jobs for the 2017 season, giving the few teams with interest in that type of player a good bit of leverage in negotiations with agents.
Looking around the league, the White Sox could still theoretically fit Carter as a designated hitter, while the Mariners could weigh the merits of signing him as an upgrade over the unproven Dan Vogelbach. The Marlins still don’t have a right-handed complement to Justin Bour at first base, though they’re said to be at their payroll capacity. The A’s, conceivably, could push Yonder Alonso to the bench and pair Carter with Ryon Healy at first base/DH, but there hasn’t been any serious talk of a reunion there. Those four teams, however, are mere speculation on my own behalf. Given the saturated market for sluggers and the fact that no team was willing to trade for Carter when his salary was projected to be in the $8MM range, it does seem possible that the best financial offer he’ll receive this winter could come from an overseas club.
just tryin to drive up the price
Chris Carter is trying to drive up the price?
Are you crazy?
He’ll be lucky to get a 1 year deal with an option at this point.
More of trying to hurry a team to offer a contract than to drive up the price.
From what I have seen and heard out of Dave Stewart he would never represent me on a multi million dollar transaction.
Well Matt Kemp loves him.
And Matt Kemp is a clown
but matt kemp plays in a real baseball town
A clown with a $160 million contract.
Mitch Moreland isn’t really any better than Carter though, he’s also bad defensively, makes no sense how he got a deal and Carter can’t.
Oh wait, one has Dave Stewart in his corner, one does not.
It depends on what he could be looking at for them, but for a guy who hasn’t made a ton of money (relative to mlb players) this does make some sense
Dave Stewart seems to be bad at everything about baseball except pitching.
He was pretty handy in baseball brawls alsi if remember correctly.. Someone (forget who) charge the mound and tried to kick him and he flattened them.. Like laid them flat out on the infield with a right hand several decades back. The guy (Stewert) was some kind of high degree belt judo expert, which made it funnier.
He won’t go to Japan. He’ll settle for some discounted offer from Tampa.
If the Mets could just move Bruce, Grandy, or both, the Rox could trade Blackmon to Mets (for a haul that would make me cringe as a Mets fan), then move Desmond to CF (he’s wasted at 1st), & sign one of these guys for a song.
Boatload of good prospects/young SPs, plus a “good enough” 1B. Seems like an upgrade overall (obviously not saying any available 1B is an upgrade over Blackmon – obvious downgrade, but good deal for Rox considering P upgrade & other prospects).
Of course, it starts with if, if, if….
A .261/.305/.422 line outside of Coors probably isn’t going to bring back a “haul” back for the Rockies. He looked better on the road in 2016, but his BABIP was high (.348 in 2016 vs .297 career).
I’m sure some AL team will give him $3-5 million on a one year deal. I know he has zero value except power, but his power is definitely worth something. My guess is that the Rays eventually pick him up, and even if they slot him into the 7 or 8 slot, he is going to win them a few games with one swing of the bat.
This guy would hit 80 HRs in Korea.
Rays need to sign him and Morrison, then trade Erasmo for a right handed outfielder.
Hard to ignore a 320 OBP with 41 HRs, if you’re gonna K that much you gotta have a few more walks. His GDP is going up as well. Might be better off in Asia.
Wladimir Balentien is hoping Carter stays in MLB so his HR record remains intact lol
He very well could crush it in Japan, but some guys come over here and they have a hard time with all the breaking balls. If he doesn’t sign with the Rays I’d like to see him on the Swallows.
Teams have just had enough with Carter striking out more than 200 times pretty much every year. I think he will get a 1 year deal around 4M$ on a team with a hitter friendly park
As long as this guy’s putting up 800+ OPS years, they shouldn’t be overly concerned about the strikeouts. With his high walk and strikeout totals, at least he likes to work the count, and you can’t argue with 40 bombs. His defense probably gives more teams pause than his strikeout totals.
Yeah, he should just DH and be used at 1st in rare situations. But any team needing a DH should grab him. It seems like 5-6 million could get it done since Japan does not pay more than that.
This guy could hit 60 home runs a year in Japan, sheesh.
If he could work on his plate discipline he could come back and land somewhere good
Lots of power but needs to not swing as often
He actually has a lot of plate discipline. He draws lots of walks. He just has an approach that puts him in pitchers counts way too often. There used to be a guy like this named Randy Milligan. He just waited and waited for his pitch. He walked a lot, struck out a lot and hit homers. Not at Carter levels but it was a less power-friendly era. It’s not that he swings too much. It’s that he swings too often at bad pitches because he’s behind in the count.
Actually my memory was a bit off on Milligan. He walked a lot but didn’t strike out much and didn’t hit for much power at all. I may have mixed him up with another player; I only remember watching him at the plate and rarely ever swinging at anything.
Realistically Carter is looking best case scenario at 1/6 with incentives so why not just go to Korea for a couple years. Make 2/20 and be a god. Pile up the stats and come back in a couple years and secure a three year deal to finish out the career.
No team, in either Korea or Japan, would pay Carter (or any player) $10MM per season.
Whoa what a shock to learn that lol. I guess I never paid attention to what they earn but you are right, it’s not even close. I thought Japan ballplayers did well but it looks like while they do better than Korea, but they both pale in comparison to here. My bad
I was very happy with Carter defensively last year. The homeruns and RBIs were great and if he can keep his batting average over to 220 is on-base percentage tends to be pretty good. I’d love to have him back if we can get him as a discount
This fine young man can’t find a job in the American League as a DH! Such a pity.
I would like to see Carter in the AL East with the Rays. Plus he can dh so he doesnt mess up the rays small ball in good defense. Seems to me it could be a place where stadiums kind of favor the Carters power bat. Just imagine him hitting bombs over the green monster. Stay in the MLB and work on defense. Al he needs to be is a average defender at 1st base.
If the NL adopted the DH rule this wouldn’t be a problem.
So why exactly did Trumbo do so much better than Carter on the free agent market this offseason? What does he do that Carter doesn’t? They both hit over 40 home runs, strike out a ton and don’t offer much in terms of defense. Carter strikes out more but also has a better walk rate.
123 wRC+ to a 112
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$40 million more earnings over 12 runs created per season? Steep.
Yeah, a bit of an overpay by the orioles. Just don’t mention it on Facebook or all the plebs who love BA and homeruns will eat you alive
That’s not how wRC+ works. That means that. Carter was 12% better offensively than average. Trumbo was 23% better than average.
Ahh ok. I believe 12 runs created would be using Bill James’ original (RC) statistic.
Honestly, if the Orioles are using Trumbo strictly as a DH, I would prefer Carter on a 1-year deal while collecting a draft pick for Trumbo signing somewhere else.
Hey, guys/gals, listen up here! Don’t you all even get it? The real story here, you might ask? That’s right, this opens the door not only to a Mr. Baseball sequel, but perhaps a Mr. Baseball reality show, starring Chris Carter, hosted by Tom Seleck!
Anyone who stays with Dave Stewart’s agency after this off-season deserves to end up out of the league. Everything this guy touches turns into a train wreck.
lol! Boras is the biggest train wreck in the league. Stewart is doing his job and trying to get the best possible deal for his client. But you are an expert and can give a great contract for your clients hahahaha
Boras is a train wreck? He’s the best in the business. Boras routinely gets his clients the best possible deal and if no deal suits them, they settle for a 1 year deal to play for a raise. More often than not everything has worked out for Boras clients. Stewart on the other hand has run his mouth multiple times about non-existent conversations or threats to move overseas only to have his own clients come in and deny his statements. He may be TRYING to get his guys the best deal, but he seems to be failing miserably at it. There is a reason why Boras has the big named guys and Stewart gets the left-overs. Can’t try to strong-arm front offices when all you’re peddling is Chris Carter.
Lemme guess, Stewart stopped making calls after speaking with the Braves.
Seattle should just sign him to platoon with Vogelbach and have Valencia be the utility guy instead of O’Malley. And if Vogelbach can’t hit you can have either Carter or Valencia be the full time guy.
Two more weeks before spring training. Where will Chris Carter end up? Maybe he’ll sign to be a replacement for someone sustaining a season ending injury…
Understand the Hiroshima Carp are working hard to bring Carter, Pedro Alvarez and Tim Lincecum to town. Carp fans are giddy. It’ll be like slow pitch softball with a harder ball.
Here has to be a Dansby Swanson joke here somewhere.
This gives me sads.
Matt Holliday and Jose Bautista worst signings behind Ian Desmond.
Leave it to Stewart to not know exactly what’s going on.