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NL East Notes: Nationals, Kelley, Gomez, Wheeler

By Steve Adams | February 16, 2017 at 1:22pm CDT

Nationals manager Dusty Baker doesn’t yet know who his closer will be in 2017, but he won’t be using a committee approach to the ninth inning, writes Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post. The second-year Nats skipper flatly said that he doesn’t like the committee approach, “because when the phone rings I want guys to know, mentally, when they might be in the game.” Baker, though, expressed concerns over various internal candidates. Shawn Kelley has had two Tommy John surgeries under his belt, and Baker suggested that he was wary of damaging hard-throwing Blake Treinen’s confidence. “I’ve seen guys’ confidence get destroyed, too, and I’m going to call upon my past and what I’ve seen,” said the manager. More vaguely, he suggested that young righty Koda Glover, who is far less experienced than Treinen, could be “too bold” for the role, though he didn’t elaborate on. Baker is also intrigued by non-roster invite Joe Nathan, whom he managed 15 years ago with the Giants, though the Nationals need to see what they have in camp with the former All-Star, who has two TJ operations in his past as well (one quite recent).

A few more notes on the NL East…

  • Kelley is more than up for the challenge of closing games for the Nationals, the reliever tells Yahoo’s Tim Brown, though he’s willing to pitch in any role he’s asked. ““If we came into spring training and they said there’s this kid from A-ball who throws 115 miles an hour, he’s gonna be the closer, I’ll embrace him,” Kelley tells Brown. “If Dusty needs me, then I’ll be the guy right there to answer for it.” Kelley is very arguably the best in-house option for the Nats, having posted a 2.55 ERA with a 143-to-26 K/BB ratio (which includes six intentional walks) in 109 1/3 innings across the past two seasons. But, Kelley does have the previously mentioned pair of Tommy John surgeries in his rear-view mirror, and he only pitched on three consecutive days once in 2016.
  • Sticking with the NL East closer theme, Phillies skipper Pete Mackanin feels that right-hander Jeanmar Gomez “deserves” to be the team’s closer, writes Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Mackanin acknowledged that Gomez had a dreadful drop-off in production late in the 2016 season but likened his faith in Gomez to the faith former manager Charlie Manuel showed in Brad Lidge back in 2009. “Charlie showed [Lidge] confidence and stayed with him,” Mackanin said, referencing a dismal season for Lidge (7.21 ERA in 58 1/3 innings). “I think it was the right thing to do.” Mackanin did acknowledge that both Hector Neris and Edubray Ramos have “shown closer’s stuff,” but he stressed that Gomez is the current closer. The 29-year-old Gomez carried a 2.97 ERA into the 2016 season’s final month before being shelled for 17 earned runs in his final eight innings.
  • The Mets have placed Zack Wheeler’s throwing program on hold after the right-hander experienced some “tenderness” in his elbow during a bullpen session this week, pitching coach Dan Warthen told reporters (via MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo). The Mets don’t consider it a setback, as Wheeler’s initial physical revealed his elbow to be in seemingly fine condition. Rather, the current belief is that Wheeler’s mild discomfort comes from scar tissue and won’t be a longstanding issue. Warthen said the Mets are treating Wheeler “with kid gloves” after he missed each of the past two seasons following 2015 Tommy John surgery. Even if he is fully healthy, Wheeler will be limited to roughly 100 innings in 2017, DiComo writes.
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  1. A'sfaninUK

    8 years ago

    Baker’s future closer currently plays for the Oakland A’s, so he’ll know who it is when that player is in his teams uniform, ha

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  2. vtadave

    8 years ago

    Dusty is “intrigued by” a 42-year-old. Shocker.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      8 years ago

      Baker should then be “thrilled” with soon to be 32-year old White Sox closer David Robertson in the role. lol

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    • arizan

      8 years ago

      Dusty has to have a “proven” closer, regardless of the best option. It’ll be Nathan or someone they trade for.

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    • thebare

      8 years ago

      Nathan is still Cubs never gave him a chance but when he was in Iowa he was awesome again. Give him faith you National will benefit his arm is still good

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  3. Aaron Sapoznik

    8 years ago

    Dusty Baker is intimating from his comments here that he is not all that thrilled with his internal options for the closer role. One has to believe he’s been even more upfront with GM Mike Rizzo in his desire for an upgrade heading into the 2017 season.

    A reported trade appeared to be imminent for White Sox closer David Robertson within the past two weeks before it was allegedly nullified by the Nationals ownership. Perhaps those talks will resume with a compromise between Ted Lerner and White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf in regards to the remaining $25MM owed Robertson over the final two years of his 4 year contract.

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    • jj1101

      8 years ago

      Do you remember a three way trade at the deline a few years back, where the WS picked up Edwin Jackson from AZ and was going to flip him for Adam Dunn, till the Nats backed out? Then the WS had to finish the season w/ 6 starting pitchers and no much desired power lefty bat.

      I think the WS front office remembers.
      As long as they have options, I don’t think the WS are willing to make many comprises in a deal w/ the Nats.

      But then again, this may be a product of my own bias. lol

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  4. Dookie Howser, MD

    8 years ago

    This is fake news. Dusty Baker would never express concern over a pitcher’s long term health.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      8 years ago

      Starting pitchers at least. lol

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  5. BrodiesHairisGreezy!

    8 years ago

    I hope the Mets dont rue losing Colon, Gnoa and Verrit.

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    • Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey

      8 years ago

      Ynoa and Verrett are replacement level #5 types, not shedding any tears there. I’d like to have Colon though.

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      • thebare

        8 years ago

        Colon will win 14 before the all star game

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        • vtadave

          8 years ago

          The 2018 All-Star game?

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      • BrodiesHairisGreezy!

        8 years ago

        I dont really care about Verritt how4 ever pitching oversupply can disappear real fast when you have arm injuries. I would have liked SA to have waited till the end of camp before selling/ giving away arms.

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    • ernestofigueroa87

      8 years ago

      As much as I love Colon,Ynoa is the one we will most regret losing.

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  6. Megadro2000

    8 years ago

    Honestly for Wheeler’s sake, I hope he becomes a bullpen arm, because if not, I foresee multiple future tommy johns

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    • mikeyank55

      8 years ago

      Hey Mega–as long as “TC” is in charge, you will continue to see Tommy John’s in their pitching staff. He leads the ML in pitchers with serious arm injuries the past 4 years.

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  7. SupremeZeus

    8 years ago

    The names were agreed on for a Robertson to the Nats trade, but ownership nixed the deal b/c they don’t want to pick up all the $ in Robertson’s k.

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  8. Aaron Sapoznik

    8 years ago

    The Nationals have a pretty elite starting rotation and Dusty Baker has been a manager in the past who would tend to extend his starters a little too long, subjecting them to injury (Kerry Wood, Mark Prior). It would behoove GM Mike Rizzo and especially the ownership, who allegedly nixed the Robertson deal recently over money, to keep that in mind with the contract dollars they have invested in Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg and Gio Gonzalez, along with still arb-eligible 30-year old Tanner Roark and youngster Joe Ross.

    It’s not just the closer role in Washington that is in question. Their entire bullpen is considered subpar for a contender, as is their bench strength. This will only make Baker’s overuse of his talented regulars even more problematic.

    The Cubs were fortunate in winning so many games last season where a save wasn’t even possible for the closer. Most contenders don’t have that luxury going through an entire season.

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    • Kayrall

      8 years ago

      DUSTEE BAKR ROONEND CURRY WOOUD’S AND MARK PRYROS’ ARMS/CAREERS, hurr durr.

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  9. metseventually 2

    8 years ago

    If you’re limited to 100 innings, why not put him in a limited bullpen role?!

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Because if they ever want him to actually become a SP then they have to stretch him out. If injuries prevent him from that then, which it seems is happening, then the bp is the second option.

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    • mikeyank55

      8 years ago

      You have a short window, ‘eventually’ to come up with more relevant name as it is misleading.

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  10. Bald Vinny

    8 years ago

    Shawn Kelley for Johnny Barbato was an all time terrible trade. Way to go, Cashmen.

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  11. woodhead1986

    8 years ago

    Why are people still so hung up on this notion that you need to be a closer with a capital C to pitch the 9th? Kelley is supremely talented, theres literally no reason to not just throw him in the “all important” closer role and be done with it. Do they need one more solid arm? Maybe. Does it need to be the expensive and declining Robertson, just because he has experience in the 9th? Heck no. Sign Blanton and BOOM, they have a good pen.

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  12. woodhead1986

    8 years ago

    Also, Gselleman should be the 5th starter, Lugo should be AAA insurance, and Wheeler should never start another game.

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    • ExileInLA 2

      8 years ago

      If Wheeler can recover to start, he’s a fifth ace…which neither Lugo nor Gsellman will ever be (both top out at 3/4 level). If he can’t, it’s worth learning that in Queens, not on ESPN watching him in someone’s uniform.

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  13. woodchuck

    8 years ago

    “Very arguably”…..haha

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  14. mikeyank55

    8 years ago

    Hey Exile–How long does he have to recover for b4 you appoint him 5th ace. Wouldn’t he have to actually pitch a whole season to first call him a 5th starter? I realize that you are 3000 miles away, however between the pressure you are putting on the kid calling him and ace, and “TC’s” track record for overuse and abuse of his starters, it is arguable that he wont even be able to qualify for 5th starter for the whole season.

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