March 3: Farrell said the Red Sox won’t get further word on Price’s elbow until at least the late afternoon today, tweets Jen McCaffrey of MassLive.com.
March 2, 3:43pm: Price will receive opinions from both Andrews and ElAttrache in Indianapolis tomorrow, tweets Britton. (The renowned surgeons are both there for this week’s NFL combine.) Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald tweets that Farrell said the initial MRI revealed some swelling and fluid buildup but offered “inconclusive” results overall. Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe tweets that Price himself is optimistic that the injury isn’t serious.
9:48am: There is “serious concern” that Price may require Tommy John surgery, Bowden tweets.
8:46am: The Red Sox are holding their breath after sending in key lefty David Price for an MRI, as Jim Bowden of ESPN.com reports (Twitter links). For now, Price will just be held out of his next scheduled start while he heads for a second opinion.
The broader outlook is not known, but manager John Farrell says there is concern given the degree of soreness Price is experiencing. And while it’s far from clear whether there’s reason yet to believe he could be headed for surgery, the veteran lefty is already slated to see one or both of the game’s foremost Tommy John experts — Dr. James Andrews and Dr. Neal ElAttrache — for a second opinion, per Tim Britton of the Providence Journal (via Twitter).
Price, 31, signed a record-setting seven-year, $217MM with the Red Sox last winter. The agreement includes an opt-out opportunity after the 2018 campaign. He has earned only $30MM of the total thus far; needless to say, Boston has a lot riding on the lefty, both now and in the future.
While his first season with the Red Sox didn’t pan out quite as hoped, with Price recording only a 3.99 ERA, he still managed to throw a typically robust 230 frames. Boston has hoped that he and newly added starter Chris Sale would provide a historically excellent 1-2 lefty punch, with reigning AL Cy Young winner Rick Porcello rounding out a top-flight front of the rotation.
If the worst case comes to pass for Price, then the club does have three arms to round out the staff — Eduardo Rodriguez, Drew Pomeranz, and Steven Wright (assuming all remain on track with their respective health issues) — but little in the way of certainty beyond that. Boston president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski previously shipped out veteran Clay Buchholz, but he has expressed confidence in the team’s remaining depth.
Prayers… Even as a Yankees fan
Dude he wasn’t diagnosed with Cancer❗
True, but a1544 is obviously classier than you.
^
Eh. I don’t agree. When he says “prayers”, did he actually & literally say a prayer? I doubt it. It’s pretty easy to just type it & that’s all. Besides, the guy has a point, it’s just arm surgery. It’s not like Price won’t collect the 30 million dollars or whatever he’s owed this year. If someone wants to feel slightly bad for him, fine, but nobody should condemn anyone else for not feeling the same.
Because he stipulates that even a sports rivalry comes second he is classy? A classy person doesnt need to mention his or her favorite team to give a guy prayers.
I am a Cleveland Indians fan I hope he needs Tommy John what the Stupid Red Sox are paying is OBSECNE I hope 4 the Red Sox he has a career ending injury and The Rex Sox on the hook for $217 million minus the $30 million they already paid !
How do you know?
Ain’t no dude. It’s a goyal
Class act a1544
You guys are right. Price doesn’t deserve to be prayed for. Ya know what with the limited amount of prayers allowed and all.. he shouldn’t have said that. Or mentioned his team on a baseball site. Probably shouldn’t have commented either for fear of offending your regal selves.
Maybe baby Jesus will heal Price’s arm because the Sox want another ring? Wasting time praying for a multi millionaire ballplayer over a non-fatal potential injury is the ultimate waste of time. If you want to pray (as if that does any good), save it for a kid with cancer.
I’m not religious. I don’t pray. I don’t tell other people what is or isn’t prayer worthy though. Saving prayers? Don’t get it
Yes, because I’m sure whatever you do in life is soooo valuable that you can’t waste 5 seconds praying for David Price’s health. I’ve never seen so many people complain about a person saying “prayers.” Get over it. Stop acting like world hunger will never be solved because someone said a prayer for David Price’s health instead. Absolutely ridiculous.
Actually as a yankee fan, It would be nice If Red Sox lost Price for a year or 2. No prayers here at all!!!!
Why, may I ask? Not that I wish harm on any player, but I’d also argue that there are billions of people on the planet today that are in need need of prayer more than David Price…
Nobody wants to see a guy miss a year in his prime. Really? Lol
Question is, are the prayers going to the one that let it happen in the first place, or the one that’s going to make everything ok? lol
In all seriousness, I don’t think anyone hopes he is injured, for the sake of competitive baseball if nothing else. I am in that boat.
I didn’t realize people could get so salty over someone saying “prayers”
People like to wedge their religions into conversations that have nothing to do with religion all the time. As someone who is not a fan of religion, I’m also allowed to comment about it.
You nailed it!
Imo nobody truly needs prayer because divine intervention does not exist. To me, when someone says they are praying, they are showing concern and a bit of solidarity– we all love baseball, right? While I don’t believe prayer works in its intended way, it shows that we are humans and we look put for each other.
As far as more important things needing prayer, it’s simply not feasible for everyone to care about everything all at once. Even if you pick something more important to compare this to, those two things are not mutually exclusive. Feel free to pray for both should you so choose 🙂
Thank you to Bill Mahers #1 fan..
Lmao
The baseball gods told me to tell you to STholyFU before they dispatch their only begotten trout to spite thee. The real God compels me through his teachings to love you… maybe I don’t care about everyone, but for some reason I’d care an awful-lot about beating you until you bleed for preaching on a sports website. Prayers for pricey… and everyone, you colossal weakling
I’ll say a prayer for your soul, simba.
Amen to all of that
Oh no
This would throw a complete wrench into the medical side of baseball. Price is known for his perfect mechanics, so who knows what causes tj
First I’m no doctor. But curveballs, sliders, high torque and repetition are contributing factors. The human arm isn’t really designed to pitch. I also believe we see the injury a lot more now due to the fact that kids are throwing those types of pitches at an early age where the body has not developed yet. And also by the time they reach professional ball they have a lot more competitive miles on them than in past generations. Just a few thoughts. Like i said I’m no doctor.
” I also believe we see the injury a lot more now due to the fact that kids are throwing those types of pitches at an early age where the body has not developed yet”
I believe I saw an interview with Dr. Andrews himself saying exactly this. Kids are being taught these in Little League when they should not be throwing them at all at their age.
I was just talking about this yesterday. I’m 29 years old and I played year-round baseball growing up (luckily I wasn’t a pitcher, so I never experienced any arm troubles while in college). But it really seems like my generation is the TJ generation. Competitive youth organizations can make tons of money if they maintain a reputation and get kids noticed by colleges. I remember being 10 years old and kids trying to spin “curve balls” up there. They are throwing crazy pitches at a young age. Their coaches are more focused on winning and making money than the long-term effects it will have on these kids. The kids are playing NON-STOP from the time they are 10 or younger. All these things take a toll on your arm. I remember hearing Nolan Ryan do an interview where they asked him how he was able to pitch as long as he did. He said after the season was over, he didn’t touch a baseball until the spring. I have a hard time believing many pro’s (or even kids for that matter) give their arm anywhere near a healthy amount of rest.
I coached travel ball and there’s not a lot of money in it for coaches. There’s some to compensate for the time you put into it but it’s not a full time salary by any means. I’ve taught curveballs to kids and the misconception most get is you have to do something with your wrist to make it spin. Teach them a grip and throw the exact same way as a fastball and it gets the job done. There are kids playing non stop but this isn’t really anything new, just more kids doing it.
I have some friends that played college and pro ball and have heard of quite a few players that didn’t need TJ surgery but got it anyway in hopes it would strengthen their arm to make it to the pro’s.
Yeah, that was a bit misleading, my apologies. What I meant was, for some of the big name competitive baseball organizations, there is a ton of money. I’m in Dallas and there are a handful that come to mind that I know for a fact the people within those organizations make TONS. Maybe not all of the individual coaches. I played for one of them, and experienced first hand, that they cared more about your money than they really cared about you, the player. And what generated more parents spending more money was the fact that they won a lot of games. Maybe not all are this way, but this was just my experience.
For what it is worth, GHSA (GA High School) has implemented a new pitch count program this year. I think it is a little too late, but better late than never.
Correct and quite spot on, especially about not placing the blame on the coaches…UNLESS, they are teaching thesee pitches and mechanics incorrectly….
Personally, I think the blame mostly goes on the parents, and especially the academies and travel ball organizations that make tons of money off having these kids play and practice year round.
They are selling parents a tale, that if their kid isn’t playing as much as possible, then he will get surpassed aND left behind by other kids that are playing more. While that may very well indeed be true, it only puts more pressure for these parents to put their kids through the rigors of playing and throwing all year, every year.
Travel ball is great and fun, I’ve directed tournaments, coached, and umpired countless events for U-Trip, USFA, ASA, GSA, etc. But it’s gotten out of hand with their “race to the top” motto, and while they are lining their pockets, and while parents are seeing improvements in their kids’ game…nothing will ever change, and it more and more injuries will pile up, unfortunately….
The majority of the big travel ball organizations are that way, 100%…Ohh they WILL make your kid better, and you will win, but 9 times out of 10 your kid and his or her health is expendable…
And since these fanatical parents are seeing progress in their kids, they will only continue to pay more and more and their kid will only play more and more…It is truly an epidemic…
School Ball, little league, Fall Ball, and all throughout you have travel ball tournaments going on throughout the whole year…There is honestly no telling how many innings and games these kids play year in and year out…
Then it is so competitive, even when they do suffer minor injuries, they risk further injury by play through them, afraid they will lose their spots to someone else, because they have been forcefed the idea that if they are not constantly playing and constantly getting better than they will be passed up by their peers or someone else that is playing more….
I agree. We discussed the scenario yesterday of the over-the-top coach approach to a tournament:
Call the players 14 years old. There’s hands down a kid who pitches better than the rest (growing up this was me having to face Clayton Kershaw all the damn time :(…..) Kid pitches a must win game, fine. Coach comes up next day and says “Can you throw today?” What’s the kid going to say?!?!? OF COURSE! These coaches are putting kids in the position to fall apart. And parents just sit back and watch hoping their kid is the next Kershaw….
The Arm by Jeff Passan tackles this very issue. Very good read.
Overhand that is….I played fast pitch softball with guys who pitched 5-6 games a weekend, every weekend for decades and never had any arm problems.
Price has terrible mechanics. Instead of having a smooth flow to his finish, David has a violent recoil with his pitching arm and lower half. It takes a freak of nature to be able to pitch at the level he has performed at with those mechanics. This guy has been a injury waiting to happen with that finish.
I second this. His mechanics are smooth until the delivery where there’s a release, then snap back of his arm. This has to have negative effects on your arm.
Throwing overhand is not a natural motion. Factor in that pitchers make repeated throws that are high intensity over a long period of time things are likely (not guaranteed) to go wrong at some point. It’s like ACL tears in other sports, yeah you can have perfect mechanics or be in perfect shape but all it takes is one slip up to cause a tear. You can know all about certain injuries and have a bunch of stats on them but at the end of the day you can’t really predict some injuries because they can happen literally at any time
While pitch type may answer your questions, it is interesting. Hopefully that means Sale is in fact not a ticking bomb like the white Sox thought.
Mark Prior supposedly had the smoothest and most effortless motion scouts had seen in years, that didn’t turn out to well either. Throwing is an unnatural motion, the body usually gives way eventually, no matter how good your mechanics are.
Prior was also victim of a couple freak accidents. He was a most unfortunate case for the history of the game.
Prior had at least one bad shoulder injury from a baserunning collision. His pitching mechanics, which were excellent, didn’t factor into that unfortunate injury.
Yep, he ran into Marcus Giles from 1b to 2b. He also had a comeback line drive hit him in his pitching elbow causing a slight fracture.
Prior also had Dusty Baker as a manager. That man has wrecked many a pitcher’s career.
Price throws hard, and has for a long time, with limited lower body propulsion, and uses a lot of sliders. I don’t think he’s prime TJ candidate, but probably somewhere in the middle.
He uses very few sliders.
The answer will be a some form of a prosthetic/sleeve or proactive surgery/treatment. Preventative maintenance is always best. MRI’s and Stem cell injections after every start, the time for a change is now… C’mon Manfred you wanna fix baseball here is your shot. Go find a lot of smart people and throw money at this detrimental injury until it is a rare occurrence!
You want MRI’s after every start? Do you know how expensive that would be?
It’s actually not that expensive. They’d buy the machines and depreciate them over 10yr (they can and do last longer, but this is a typical amount of time for MRI machines bc of access to parts, etc). I’m sure they could swing some kind of sponsorship deals with a manufacturer and some medical groups to get a break on the associated costs. I’m not sure of the best frequency, but more serial imaging would be great for research. The trickier part is who gets access to that data, as it could be worth billions to the owners (who to offer $200m to and who to avoid). /tangent
All in all, a great post!
if it’s serious, you guys want to come back and make a deal for Quintana? Multiple years with a rotation of Sale, Price, Porcello, Quintana wouldn’t even be fair.
With Dombrowski in charge, it’s a possibility they do.
Good bye benintendi and swihart.
Swihart is on the table. Benni Mookie etc are hidden far away. Zero chance Benni gets traded homie
And zero chance Swihart is a centerpiece.
Yeah. Devers, Swihart, and unfortunately at this point the only other Sox prospect I still know is Sam Travis. Those three plus some of the remaining top 10 probably get the conversation started, but I don’t even know if they can get a serious offer in without Benintendi.
Oh yeah Groome. Add him in.
Just like Moncada was untouchable, right? With Dombrowski at the helm, any prospect is available.
And besides, as MB suggested, Swihart has very little value at this point.
Or, do the Yankees smell blood in the water and renew their push for Quintana?
Not a chance. Red Sox, even without Price, if that happens, are still substantially better than the Yankees
Suuuure…. that’s what you said last year!!
last year, when they finished 9 games better than the yankees?
Yes Quintana would be an option if Price needs TJ surgery. But I am sure it would not be cheap
The price for Quintana goes up considerably if it turns out that Price does need surgery. White Sox aren’t going to give Boston any discounts….just the opposite.
Unless the sox want to trade the final elite piece of the farm system benintendi, Q wont be headed to boston
Quintana in Boston would be scary for the wrong reasons. A LH contact pitcher with a low GB%, high hard contact, and flyball rates would be worrisome in Fenway.
Yeah, the bandbox he plays in now in Chicago is SOOOO much larger than Fenway. I don’t think so.
It actually is much larger than Fenway down the lines. 20+’ down left and 30+’ down right, plus that 37′ wall tends to be a pain for left handed fly ball pitchers. You can ignore Quintana’s tendency to give up pull contact, which Guaranteed Rate Field suppresses for RHB (which Quintana faces 6X more than LHB) if you want too. Whatever makes you feel better.
Oh my
No I’m not trying to trade Groome and Devers and Travis after trading Kopech, Moncada, Margot
Cue the tiresome “Price is overrated” commenters.
I hope his arm is okay.
Who said he’s overrated? Overpaid perhaps, but so are most players
See below.
Overpaid is relative, though. MLB players generate way more revenue for their team than they are paid.
At least he can hang his hat on his playoff performances. Otherwise the haters would really come out of the woodwork
Nooooooooooooooo!!! – Red Sox Nation
I hope we didn’t ruin him when we had him in Toronto. We never abused him, but ppl def complained about warming up in the pen, etc in the playoffs.
Like to see my division rivals healthy as possible. Lets hope Price is ok!
Overrated anyway.
That may explain his ordinary 2016….
Below his normal output, yes. But he was still one of the most valuable pitchers in baseball.
Luvbeisbol wanna try again? He was 7th among AL pitchers in fWAR last season. Learn to look at something other than era. He led baseball in IP, had almost a 5:1 k/bb ratio and put up an 83 in xFIP-
I hate to see any pitcher deal with elbow soreness, scary. Especially price, who seems like a good guy. As a jays fan, in terms of winning, price missing time would normally be a very good thing if it weren’t for the solid sox SP depth. Regardless hope all is good with price.
Ughhh there goes two years.
It’s just something benign but it certainly doesn’t sound good
“Let’s hope its something benign”***** I wish we could edit our responses on the mobile app
LOL! How ever will they recover. It’s not like they have a cy young winner and an all star pitchers.
Well let’s see if Porcello’s season was not a fluke and if Sale can handle Boston ( I think Sale will do just fine but I wouldn’t jump to conclusions).
If Sale replaces Price this year, they could very well have the same season as last year.
And Pablo replaces Papi too, right?
lol. I’m guessing this was sarcasm…as Papi doesn’t get replaced, though someone will fill in for him. Lord knows I wouldn’t want to be in a position to need Panda to produce. He came in slimmer, but he’s been a trainwreck since signing with BOS.
RUH ROH
The fantasy baseball ghosts haunting me already.
This is why I never draft until the week before the season starts. It’s dumb to have your (fantasy) season over before the regular season even starts.
I don’t draft – it’s a dynasty league where you can keep guys for up to three years and pay additional units to keep him for four or five.. So I bought him last year for 38 units. Was hoping for a rebound.
Who only has 1 fantasy baseball league???
Benintendi, Groome, and Swihart for Quintana. Who hangs up?
Red sox their farm will be one of the worst in baseball
The Red Soxs actually don’t pick up the phone.
John Henry has actually confiscated all of Dave Dombrowski’s phones on account of they won’t have any minor leaguers left the next time Dombrowski has contact with another GM…
LOL. They wouldn’t trade Benintendi for Sale.
Groome and Swihart for JQ actually sounds pretty close to a fair trade.
Swihart and groome is not even close to quintanna. Red sox fans need to stop thinking swihart the bust still has value. Quintanna is elite and under control for 5 years so theres no way the white sox accept anything less the benintendi
Pardon my spelling
Wait Swihart is a bust after 1 injury riddled bad year? I get that he will never be a superstar, let’s temper expectations as he was never a #1 top 100 prospect. It’s a joke to throw the bust tag around after a sophomore season holy crap.
These players need to start proving the hype. Swihart had plenty of it and has nothing to show for it. Guys like him and buxton are busts until proven otherwise. Swihart was the reason the red sox didnt get cole hamels that is pretty significant
Oh jeez plz. It’s the same kind of commentary that led people to say Pederson was a bust after a year. So much for allowing a kid to make adjustments back to the league.
actually the reason that Cole Hamels is not a Red Sox is because of Mookie Betts that is who the Phillies wanted and Blake Swihart. would be a secondary piece. The Red Sox, as they should have, told the Phillies to kick rocks.
Cmon Dodgerfan711 what do you know about Blake Swihart? Lets see he was rushed in 2015 when he was supposed to spend the whole year at AAA to work on his defense. After looking overmatched the first six weeks he put it together at the plate and in the second half of 2015 he had an ops of .800. His defense was not great but wasn’t terrible either in 2015.
2016 Blake Swihart started as the catcher but after one week he lost his starting catcher job due to a very slow start by the Red Sox starters. He was made the scapegoat. He then came back as an outfielder and was inured and out for the rest of the year.
What about the above scenario leads you to say he is a bust. He will spend probably half the year in AAA working on his defense and then probably be up with the big club after the Allstar break. A catcher that can OPS .800 is very valuable he will be OK defensively as well. He is very good athlete and an exceptional athlete for a catcher. He will be just fine.
When Dombrowski states that he’s hoping that Swihart can transition to C, the position he’s been playing all along, I believe that it’s fair to call Swihart a bust (as a catcher). He’s not much bat for any other position he can be converted to.
You crack me up you are always the first person to say that about Swihart. DD didn’t say he hopes he can transition to a catcher what a silly thing to say. DD did say that Swihart was going to catch this year nothing about hope cmon man be better than that. I’m not saying that Swihart won’t be a bust what I am saying is he still has a lot of value and he jury is still way out on Swihart.
Not
Even
Close
And Devers, and Travis, and Raudes….
I’m always surprised when a high end pitcher like Price goes down, top ten durable pitchers are Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander, Sale, Price, Quintana, Bumgartner, Lester, Arreita, and Kluber. They are all considered aces and have been solid for 5 years. If the Sox lose Price it moves them back to the back in the East.
Moves them to the back of the east? They’re projected to win that division by 7 games. No way losing price drops them from clear front runner to the back of the division.
Absolutely correct chester…Slider32, I don’t think there is any one pitcher, on a projected division winning team, that if injured, would drop his team from first to last place. Especially, in this case, considering the fact the Red Sox are being projected to finish 1st in their division by 6-8 games, like chester said.
Maybe if the Dodgers were projected to win their division by 6-8 games, and if Kershaw went down, then it might cost them a chance to win the West, but still I HIGHLY doubt they would finish in last…
So you’re saying, that if Price goes down, they would finish in last place, even behind the Rays??
I mean, they didn’t finish in last place last year, and really the only significant changes will be losing Ortiz and swapping out David Price for Chris Sale.
Then you also have to take into consideration a couple of positive changes to their pen, some players regaining their health, the younger guys adding in confidence and possibly continuing to progress, and then adding in a full year of Benny, a possibly much improved Sandoval, and then adding in a decent player in Moreland and another talented, versatile guy like Swihart…
So, even still you are going to say losing Price makes them go from being projected to win their division by 6-8 games, to finishing in last place?? Either you think very highly of the other teams in the AL East, especially the Rays, and/or you weren’t all that high on the Red Sox to begin with…
Please explain why you’re making that bold prediction, because that’s a pretty hot take right there!! lol
But they did have 2 last place teams in recent memory I think. Different better players but those teams still had Ortiz, Pedroia and other big names
Also Sale didnt make the other Sox org a winning club
Correction, 3 last place teams in 5 years: 2012, 14 & 15
no single player makes a team a winning team. This is baseball. You are thinking of the nba.
The angels have the best player on the planet and finished 74-88. Guess that means he can’t help another team be a winning team? Flawless logic. Please keep your hot takes for espn.
Um no they still will be favorites for the division and actually saying that they will suddenly be a bottom of the division team if they lose Price is just silly. They still will be the at least the co-favorites but it will tighten the division up.
Yeah lol they were projected to just run away with the division. Losing price probably would mean they only win the division by 2 or 3 games
Where would you project the Indians to finish if Kluber went down? I agree that dropping Boston to last is unlikely, yet, Sale will be transitioning to Boston, Porcello is unlikely to repeat his career year, and there are a few questions about those last three. I wouldn’t feel all warm and fuzzy about my rotation in Bean town
Just curious: what were projections when they were a last place team in 2012, 14 & 15?
Lol they still have the best/second best rotation in the division
Has there ever been a player who goes to Dr. James Andrews and leaves with GOOD news?
Those that go to him to get cleared after.
James Andrews is quietly the single most important man in all of professional sports.
Good point on James Andrews
To bad for the Sox. I’m glad the Yankees didn’t get suckered into him. They new his history. Great regular season. Terrible post. Biggest mistake Boston has made since the Bambino.
trading Bagwell wasn’t a great idea.
Pablo Sandoval begs to differ.
Carl crawford aswell
Using rookie Calvin Schiraldi to close games
Says the guy who’s team wasted money and prospects for the better part of 30 years on some terrible acquisitions.
Hate to be one of those fans, but for the past 30 years, is there a team that has had more success than the Yankees in baseball? (Your words, not mine). Wasted money/prospects or not, they have more wins and championships than any MLB team in that span.
Never said you weren’t successful, just pointing out that the Yankees threw plenty of money at guys that never worked out. Calling Price the biggest mistake the franchise has made since selling the best player in baseball is just foolish.
This illustrates perfectly on both sides why ONLY teams that are favorites (not contenders, but favorites) should ever trade the farm for a pitcher.
Every argument that can be made for why a team should trade a busload of their best prospects for a guy like Jose Quintana could have been made for David Price and then some.
And just like that, he could be gone for two years. It’s still only one arm.
Conversely, for one of those aforementioned favorites like the Red Sox….the Sale trade has never looked smarter.
That quickly, the Sox may no longer be the overwhelming favorites that they were yesterday. Still a very strong team though..
E-Rod could still have a sneaky good year. I know that’s classic Red Sox over-optimism, but he was a really good prospect, who ended the season well, and pitched well in his first season. He was poised for a step forward last year before the injury. I can see him having an ERA under or very close to 4, which would be what Price gave last year. I’m not freaking out yet. Worst comes to worst, blow the rest of the farm on Quintana.
Do you even want to blow the farm on Quintana? The Red Sox still look to be the AL east favorites even without price, and I’m not sure how likely the Red Sox can get a package for Qunitana done without including Benintendi. If they wanted Martes – Tucker – Musgrove from Houston, then Devers-Groome-Travis won’t be enough and after that, the Red Sox farm falls off pretty fast
They might not be the overwhelming favorites, but Sale-Porcello-Wright-Pomeranz with probably the best offense in baseball….I’d have to think they’re still the clear favorite in the AL East.
Don’t worry Red Sox. Padres got pitcher for you all
If the results of David Price’s MRI prove to require TJ surgery, perhaps the Red Sox will get involved in the Jose Quintana sweepstakes. They still have plenty of high quality prospects and pre-arbitration controllable MLB talent which should entice the White Sox even after the Chris Sale trade.
It seems every that every week since spring training has began an impacting starter has been lost to a contender which only solidifies White Sox GM Rick Hahn’s leverage with Quintana, provided of course his durable and productive southpaw also remains healthy.
So they are going to deplete their farm so that when there’s a significant need mid season they have nothing else to trade? Makes solid sense…. They have two top end of the rotation guys they’ll be fine.
Then why did they think Sale was necessary? They could still trade for Quintana and get a rental at the deadline. It depends on what they’d have to pay for Quintana, but their biggest need come deadline time would be a bench outfielder with a bat, and probably a reliever who just doesn’t suck. Any team can get those guys.
Nvm I forgot about Chris Young. Really any bench vet.
Why did they feel it necessary to get Sale? Really? Because it’s Chris Sale! I mean I’m not sure you need to say anything else especially when you’re adding an ace to the rotation.
You’re assuming health and production at 1st and 3rd. You’re actually assuming a lot. I don’t fault White Soxs fans for getting excited about possible returns for Q. But not every team is in desperate need. Sure might they need Q mid season, maybe. But they seemingly protected themselves from an early significant injury by obtaining Sale.
The real question is how much has Dr. James Andrews made in his career performing TJ Surgery?
At least he won’t have to worry about sucking in the playoffs again
Low blow man…So unnecessary really..
I feel for Price, his family, and the whole Red Sox organization.
Fortunately, now that trade for Chris Sale looks ten times better!! Without Sale, I would say the Red Sox would for sure be in some trouble, but since they acquired him, and since they still have Porcello, Pomeranz, Rodriguez, and Wright they should end up competing for the AL East title, if not winning it regardless…
In order to pull away with the division though, I think two of Pom, E-Rod, and/or Wright are really going to have to step up and take a major step forward in their careers. Not to mention the pen is also going to have to take a step forward this season, which I think is very plausible…
Even so, with their young line-up built off of combinations of solid hitting abilities, power, and speed they should be just perfectly fine and right in the thick of things come the end of the season.
Why “feel for his family”? The dude gets his money, and gets to stay at home with them for a year. Talk about a win.
ervin santana to the red soxs sounds like a good fit and wouldn’t not take the last 2 top prospects they have left and would fit right in as the number 3 starter
Just seeing Andrews for an opinion… it’s not in stone yet guys. 2) we still have five starters and 3) I hope all the Swihart haters eat crow.. give the kid a chance for petes sake
See ya in 2018 Price!!!
See, this is why there are so many eyes (from the professional world) on how Garrett Richards performs this season.
Perhaps Price can follow the same path.
Tanaka for Benintendi, Devers, Groome, and Travis.
lol maybe one of the worst trade proposals I have ever heard.
I believe you mean “or.”
Ever heard of a troll?
The jankees aren’t trading Tanaka within their own division let alone the red Sox.
All that money…
Baker must have instructed Prior to run into Giles and to attempt to block pitches with this throwing elbow.
I feel optimistic that Price won’t need TJ surgery. Hopefully it’s just a strain and in worst case scenario he is left behind in Florida to start MLB season on DL, and works out in warm sun rather than with AAA with April weather potentially cold or even snowy.
It might be best case that he doesn’t toss as many innings as he did in ’16 – 230 – as I said before this arm problem that I preferred Price to toss 180-190 innings, to save wear and tear. Am intrigued by free agent Mexican League pitcher invited to Sox camp who may serve as no.5 or no.6 rotation starter..
Unfortunately, I feel the exact opposite. I don’t think you go for a second and third look with TJ experts if you aren’t afraid of something being seriously wrong. I hope for Boston and Price’s sake I’m wrong, but I’m not expecting much good news out of this.
So if he needs TJS where does Price rank on the bad contract list?
Sooner he starts whatever the sooner he is back
At least they got an ace in the trade with the shy sox
Price became the spare lefty ace today
I wonder when these huge long term contracts are going to end. I hate seeing this for Price, or any other player. But the percentage of huge contracts that end up as dead weight is extremely high. Free agency sounds great in the offseason but a few years later teams are often left holding the bag.
I assume the Red Sox have insurance and learned their lesson with Pablo
I felt that something was up with Price at the end of 2015 when he skipped his final start at the end of the season and was not very good in the post season. Obviously that carried on into 2016. You would think the physical would have shown something but them their medical team missed the Crawford injury (wrist) and failed see the severity and imminence of Lackeys elbow and missed Beckett and Bards TOC, ellsburys ribs, underestimated Agons shoulder, etc. thats what you get when you use the Patriots docs at MGH. Baseball is a different sport
They probably should have kept Buchholz. You never have too much pitching. These guys never learn
Man they are going to miss Encarnacions bat. I wonder if Price was as forthcoming as he could have been. His certainty he would not opt out makes sense now. Of course, Red Sox might have known and that could explain the Sales trade
He is crying his way to the price bank
Yes, Price pitching bad in the playoffs was so unusual. Who are you kidding?
Yankees hitters weeping. They padded their stats on Price last year
The Yankees have had their way with him for years. His “greatness” is overshadowed by his inability to raise his game when it matters. That’s a $180 million DD deficit screw up
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Hey how about bringing Pedro?? Lol
Ffs
Matt Garza for a bag of autographed Big Papi balls.
No way. Those balls are worth far more than Garza. Maybe there’s a couple left over Jarrod Saltalamacchia autographs left that they can have. If that name ever even fit on a ball…
TJ, guaranteed.
I am 17 years old and just had tommy john, maybe shouldnt have thrown curveballs
Yep. Fastball, Changeup, and take at least 2 month off every year.
David was a great teammate and really helped The Jays get to the playoffs in 2015, but I’m very happy we didn’t re-sign him.
I wish David all the best and hope for his sake this is not what it is starting to look like. That said, as it was the most important thing, I am SO glad that the Braves did not make the mistake of signing him like many Braves fans wanted.
no GM should sign any pitcher for 30 mil a year
If he’s out with TJS red Sox somehow will get Jose quintana