2:19pm: Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times tweets that the two sides are reviewing medicals of the players that will be involved. Topkin hears that outfielder Braxton Lee and right-hander Ethan Clark are among the names being discussed.
11:45am: Crasnick reports that if the Rays are to take on all of Hechavarria’s salary, they’d like the Marlins to include a cheaper, controllable power arm to help facilitate the deal (Twitter links). Crasnick notes that Barraclough would fit that bill, though he adds that it’s not clear if the Rays have actually singled Barraclough out as a target.
Meanwhile, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that the Rays and Marlins are optimistic that they can reach an agreement to send Hechavarria to Tampa Bay in exchange for “fringe prospects” at some point today.
JUNE 26, 8:40am: The Marlins are close to a trade of Hechavarria, tweets MLB.com’s Jon Morosi. Like Frisaro, Morosi hears that the Rays are the likeliest landing spot for Hechavarria.
10:42pm: The Rays seem to be the “frontrunners” in talks, MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro tweets. Miami is looking for young pitching in return for Hechavarria.
JUNE 25, 10:20pm: The Padres have joined the Rays in the Hechavarria sweepstakes, Clark Spencer reports (via Twitter). The Cardinals are no longer involved in talks.
JUNE 24, 12:07pm: The Orioles are no longer involved, per Spencer (Twitter link). But he hears that the Cards (as well as the Rays) are still in talks for Hechavarria.
8:26am: There’s at least one mystery team involved, per MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro (via Twitter).
JUNE 23: The Marlins have informed other clubs that they expect to trade Hechavarria within the next 24 to 48 hours, Spencer reports (on Twitter). It seems the push from the Marlins’ side is driven by an ownership effort to save salary rather than a baseball ops assessment, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick notes on Twitter.
It appears that the Rays appear to have “created some traction” in structuring a deal, sources suggest to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (Twitter link). Meanwhile, the Cardinals don’t seem to be pursuing Hechavarria at this point, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick tweets. St. Louis had at least spoken to the Marlins about Hechavarria, tweets Spencer.
JUNE 22: The Marlins are likely to trade shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria within the “next few days,” sources tell Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (via Twitter). Miami is still said to be working on getting offers for the veteran, who Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald noted was on the block this morning.
Among the teams looking into a deal are the Rays and Orioles, per the Herald’s Clark Spencer (Twitter link). Just what kind of return the Fish can expect for Hechavarria isn’t clear. He’s on the DL presently, though he’ll likely be ready to return soon. And despite his defensive excellence, Hechavarria has never really come around with the bat. He’s controllable for one more season via arbitration and is currently earning $4.35MM.
Once a fairly high-profile signing out of Cuba, Hechavarria has produced only at a .255/.291/.337 batting line through just over 2400 trips to the plate. He looked to have turned somewhat of a corner in the 2015 season, when he produced at a near league-average clip (.281/.315/.374), but since that time his bat has regressed to a .241/.283/.319 pace through 614 trips to the dish.
Hechavarria, though, has rated brilliantly at shortstop in recent years, turning in a combined 18 defensive runs saved while registering at an even better +24.1 in the estimation of Ultimate Zone Rating. That glovework figures to make him attractive at least as a bench option, though the Orioles are in need of more than that at present due to an injury to J.J. Hardy that could sideline him for nearly two months.
Hechavarria’s salary undoubtedly plays a role in Miami’s desire to move him, but the larger reason is likely the arrival of prospect JT Riddle on the scene. While Riddle’s overall .248/.270/.383 batting line isn’t all that impressive, he’s picked up the pace over the past month or so, slashing .273/.301/.406 with a pair of homers, nine doubles and a triple in 136 plate appearances.
Miami is also willing to discuss relievers AJ Ramos, David Phelps, and perhaps Kyle Barraclough, Passan tweets. Both Ramos and Phelps are earning fairly well in 2017, with respective salaries of $6.55MM and $4.6MM, and each is controllable through the 2018 campaign via arbitration.
Barraclough, meanwhile, is not yet arbitration eligible and figures to come with a much larger price tag in a potential trade. He’s controllable through the 2021 season and has demonstrated enormous strikeout potential (12.4 K/9 in 129 1/3 career innings) but also troubling control issues (5.9 BB/9).
He would be a great upgrade for the Orioles. They could send Tejada back to the bench, send Janish back to AAA, and release Hardy.
That’s not much of an upgrade
I know it it’s a lot better than what they currently have
And what do the Orioles have to trade for Hech?
they don’t need much
I’d rather have Tejada than pay Hechevarria a lot of money to be just as mediocre.
Hardy’s making 14 million with a club buyout. The only Hardy’s Angelos is gonna eat comes with pickles and a shake.
Orioles have nothing to trade with.
What would he cost the O’s though? Seldom and Jomar Reyes possibly?
Sedlock*
Seems a little high.
Definitely a bit high.
That is a ridiculously high cost. Even the Orioles aren’t that stupid.
I was thinking Scott and Yastrzemski. I figured Scott is the high upside/low floor prospect the Marlins management team typically likes (think Paddack, every draft pick ever) and Yaz is a low ceiling high floor throw in who could add major league depth.
When I first saw your comment I thought George Scott and Carl Yastrzemski. Man I’m getting old!
Little funnier than hearing a Bostonian call george Scott by his nickname (Boomer) Booomaaahhh.. it sounded like the person doing it was gagging in something when those people would yell it during ST all those years ago and was hilarious.
Mike Yastrzemski is Carl Yastrzemski’s grandson.
You don’t say
He’d fit nicely in Baltimore, would like to see him and Machado pick-it on the left side of that infield. It would be hard to sneak a ball through the 5.5 with them there.
I think the better option is to shift machado to short of they’re not trading him and try to get a third baseman.
God it would be fun to watch Machado play Short. Bregman is another that I’m sad we all can’t see fly around at short, it displays his athleticism way much more than seeing him play 3rd does.
Machado at SS has been a dream for me since he was drafted, JJ Hardy has robbed me of this and I’ll never forgive him for it.
Now you only get to see him throw out guys from the coaches box on a regular basis
He would be silky smooth at SS. Correa would be the only comp to him as far as body size, frame, arm strength and range. Man that would be fun to watch.
They probably would like to see him throw guys out from shallow left every now and then at SS.
Make a trade for Cubs Candela he’s blocked and tired of AAA he’s wasted 2 years in Iowa free him Theo O’s would be great. Machado plays SS the best in both leagues
Unless the Orioles are looking to get fleeced by the Cubs for another pitcher, that trade is unlikely to take place..
Oh no ,, not another LORIA destruction project !!!!
I can’t imagine Baltimore is in a place in which it would be giving up prospects for a defense-only player.
If the Angels could get him without giving up Cam or Middleton, I would like the Angels to do it. Move him to second. That would be an upgrade at second. And no one would want to hit the ball up the middle.
Makes absolutely no sense to do that. His value is at SS because of his defense. Move him to 2nd and he quickly becomes even more average than he already is. And the angels could really use somebody who can actually hit a little
Let’s be honestly
He is an avg Simmons
Move him to 2nd and yeah
That would not be an upgrade for the Angels. Espenoza is a great fielding second baseman and has power. The Angels hope his OBP gets better.
If he could maybe slide over and play 3rd maybe the Yankees would be interested
Gonna move one of the best defensive SS over to 3rd? What a terrible idea
and Hech doesn’t have the bat for 3B, doesn’t really work
you don’t take a bat to play in the field.
That’s not what he meant. He meant that hech doesn’t compare favorably to other third baseman offensively
when did baseball decide corner players must hit for power? if any player should hit for power, it should be the catcher. he sees more pitches and has a relationship with the umpire no other player has.
I didn’t even know where to begin until I saw your username
troll, the perfect name. i can’t believe it was available. anyway, aren’t we all trolls?
No.
better than supersinker
Obviously some of these guys have not seen this guy play shortstop enough. He is amazing in the field.
If they want a SS to move to 3B, Zack Cozart would probably be a better fit. Hech doesn’t hit enough to play SS, let alone 3B.
Yeah, I was wondering why more people aren’t considering Cozart over Hech. Seems the Marlins want to beat the Reds and make a deal first. Makes sense.
None of the Marlins players are particularly exciting. They’re clearly making a quick dump, crapping on all the better players who haven’t yet moved.
The Marlins seem to have plenty of interest in Hechavarria, yet the Reds have had a lack of interest in Cozart. Makes no sense to me because even before his breakout 2017, Cozart was a much better offensive player and a similarly excellent defender.
Cozart is a FA and is probably looking to be more of a substantial package. Marlins are looking for another salary dump. Essentially you have to give little for Hech.
True. I can’t imagine Hech returning anything of value.
cozart can’t be a free agent. he’s playing for the reds.
He meant FA after the season.
cardinals always hit on that dead wood.
I only see the cards being interested if it’s a package deal with hech and one of the three relievers named above going to stl
Yeah it puzzles me. Unless Wong goes to Miami and Diaz moves to second.
Diaz to me profiles more as a second baseman. He lacks the arm strength and accuracy to be a SS. Watch his throws to 1st base they skip
Truth
JUST WHAT WE NEED – Another player incapable of hitting the dang ball.
When will Mozeliak be ‘reassigned’ to player development, where he belongs? Trades and acquisitions are not his forte, and are probably the two most important qualities in a GM.
I wonder if the Nationals try to make a deal for 2 of those relievers. They need more than just a closer
Hard to trade in-division
Marlins would gladly do it
Not sure if the Nats would want to give up good prospects within the division still.
They don’t need to be good. Just semi decent ones.
Players with significant control left, even relievers, require good prospects in return.
Not if it’s the Marlins. They give people away all the time. In this instance, Ramos is making $6.5 million, and Phelps is making arb money as well. I’m not saying give us garbage, but I’m not asking for top guys either…just a couple of guys to get into our system…I don’t know; maybe AJ Ramos and something (maybe another bullpen arm) to the Nationals for Austin Voth, Luis Garcia, Tyler Watson, and Daniel Johnson? Maybe that’s overkill, depending on what else goes out, but something along those lines
Which would be a better fit for Baltimore, Hechevarria or Galvis?
Cozart.
I would have probably kept Hech for now….but ya, as I’ve been saying for a while. Ozuna, Bour, Straily, Ramos, Phelps, Volquez, Prado, Wittgren, Barraclough, Ziegler, Dee Gordon should all be traded, in my opinion, as a Marlins fan. That’s a decent start….I would start with Ramos and the other relievers. Get rid of Carlos Marmol next, if possible
In reality you trade Hetch, because you want to play Riddle. You can’t trade Gordon with the contract. I don’t think anyone bites on Prado and he’s injured. Everyone else will probably be open season.
I would eat like 3 million on Prado every year that remains. That makes him more viable of an option…also, I Riddle is a utility infielder at best. Hes improved to average defense at SS. Always had the arm for the position, but was more of a 2b in terms of range. He gets on base even less than Hech. At least he isn’t a K guy either, but neither is Hech. I’d rather keep Hech and hope his bat comes to life a little, and then maybe I’d trade him
Another “high profile” Cuban who can’t hit MLB pitching.
Offense was never his game.
He wasn’t really high profile
Hech is a fantastic defensive shortstop… Hopefully Marlins can get a decent prospect out of this.
Mo of the Cardinals will make another stupid trade, that’s all we need a NON hitter!
I don’t think the cards should trade for hech either, but when you say “another stupid trade” what previous bad trades that Mo made are you referencing?
Matt Adams, Cards got Nothing in return. Mo gave him away.
Matt Adams was providing the cards no value with the way this team is constructed. We also did receive a young player for him so how about we wait for the dust to settle before calling that guy nothing. Mo has a very solid track record with trades so I’m gonna err on the side of trusting his judgement on player evaluation.
Giving away Kyle barraclough.
For Cishek who did pretty well for us. Overall yes that trade favored the marlins. Check out this link to mozeliaks full trade history. Overall he comes out on top the majority of the time, and has a ring to show for one of them.
cardsconclave.com/2017/05/30/trade-history-john-mo…
Adams is on hot streak and will come back down soon, braves will get very little if they flip him. He had no room on cardinals
his ring was inherited from what jocketty built.
The username checks out
Yeah cause jockety traded for Holliday, dotel, Rzepchinski, freese, and furcal right? Nothing against jockety at all he was a great GM, but Mo built that World Series team.
You’re sure right about that. With all the prospects the Braves have and as desperate as they were, I can’t figure out why the Cards didn’t demand more. But we Braves fan appreciate it!
Adams is not very good and overrated by the braves fan base. Out of all the fans on MLBTR Brave fans are the worst by far
Okay we overrate him. Maybe you’re right, but what WE have got from him is a very good hitter and a good first baseman while Freddie is hurt. He has actually been so good to the point where Freeman has considered moving to 3rd to keep Adams in the lineup
Most fanbases tend to overate their teams players and prospects but many Braves fans do tend to take it to extremes!
Trade Matt Kemp now, before the BABIP regresses!
Mo has literally made one or two bad trades lmao ungrateful Cards fan
1.) Rolen for Glaus.
2.) Worrell & Gregerson for Khalil Greene
3.) B. Ryan for Cleto
4.) Rasmus for bag of baseballs
5.) Barraclough for Cishek
6.) Adams for prospect
When you factor in a few minor trades where we got major leaguers for minor leaguers who didn’t get promoted after trades, a few ‘tossup’ moves, and the good trades of Edmonds for Freese and a bag of baseballs for Holliday, I would hardly argue that people who complain are being ungrateful.
My primary beef with Mo is not his inability to net much in trades, but rather his overvaluation of prospects who then sit and never progress, or who do get called up and are nowhere near as good as advertised, and his inability to lure or sign star-level players and then overcompensating by signing second-tier players for mega contracts.
I love Yadi, but the 3 year deal of $60M while “the best catching prospect in the game’ stalls at AAA makes zero sense. The ridiculous money for Cecil, Fowler (end of that contract is going to end up like…) Peralta’s insane contract that ownership just ate, are all costing this team and will for years to come.
Meanwhile, the team has a logjam of streaky outfielders and despite all the hype don’t have the depth of pitching — and can’t seem to find an infielder capable of hitting the dang ball or fielding consistently.
Despite all this, I’m actually not a big hater of Mo. I’m indifferent for the most part, but not a fan. I’m much more critical of the manager of this team, who is the most over-rated manager in baseball. Give him a championship team, and he’ll choke in the playoffs. Give him an aging core with a bunch of overrated youngsters, and we’re fighting to stay out of the cellar of a crappy division. MM’s ineptitude wouldn’t be so glaringly obvious had we not had a HOF manager for 15 years prior, but since Tony’s left we’ve veered off the cliff, fast.
good lord cardinal fans are spoiled and don’t even realize it.
Damn right we are. We’ve earned that right. Plus we’re smart. The Hate is real!!!
Don’t forget humble.
I don’t see how heccavaria helps cards. They need package prospects for a star to lead team or sell Lynn, Oh, etc. and get prospects to stock up and go big for next year. Small deals like this not enough.
I definitely agree with this. If not in contention, get assets from pending free agents. If realistically in the race, grab a stud bat if the price is right. Either way, there’s no reason to think the cards can’t contend next year.
So basically they are giving other teams a chance to make a final offer on him before they decide whether to take the offers on the table or not?
I don’t understand this from the Cardinals point of view. What would they do with Diaz…we have entirely too many people who play 2nd, 3rd, or SS…what this team lacks is OF depth and bullpen help. So any trade that doesn’t involve that is pointless from the team point of view unless major league pieces are moved. I mean are they shopping Diaz? If they are, they couldn’t do it at a worse time with him being in a hitting funk basically all year
cardinals team is full of versatile players, giving matheny too many options. they have no bench at all.
Exactly, half the problem is there is no defined lineup with this team. If anybody asked what their starting lineup is, that should be a relatively easy question to answer, but this team has a different lineup 5-6 days a week. There is just no consistency with the lineup…well except the consistency for changing
Ozuna to the Cardinals for Weaver, Bader, Gallen, and Arozorena (maybe that’s a little overkill for 2 years of Ozuna)? Maybe throw a reliever at the Cardinals or something?
Way to much and I’m a Marlins fan. I don’t see the cards doing that they usually don’t just give away young talent in handfuls like that, there way to smart to do that.
Take away Arozorena then
The only trade Baltimore needs to be doing is for some SP
with what farm system?
Nice defender, but Hechavarria can’t hit his way out of a wet paper bag. At age 28, his .629 career OPS is probably what you’re going to get from him. Not sure how he profiles as an everyday player on any decent team.
Mystery team has to be Oakland, with Pinder getting hurt last night and Rosales being a horrific SS.
Serious question: why would Oakland buy at this point? They’re kinda on the fringes of contention, and Hechavarria isn’t a huge long – term asset. Seems like they’d be better suited just waiting for Pinder to return, no?
Oakland called up Franklin Barretto, so I’d imagine they’re out.
Can he play third?
The Rays are struggling on defense and need bullpen help. Boxberger is now dealing with a potential oblique issue and isn’t coming off the DL this weekend. They could get Hechevarria and at least one bullpen arm in this single trade. They are deep at pretty much all positions and could deal from strength. Sternberg has opened up his wallet in the past when he thought his team had a playoff run in them. Hopefully, he’s feeling it and ready to add a little payroll.
If Boxberger is still hurt, they could end up getting Kyle Barraclough,
odds that he doesn’t get traded are growing
It’s not like we have a replacement for him, and if his bat shows some life when he comes back, his value can go up a bit. As I said earlier, I’d wait to move him for now
JT Riddle and Miguel Rojas are fine enough replacements.
No they arent. Riddle is optimistically a utility infielder who’s defense has improved enough to be average at SS. Rojas can’t be an everyday guy either. The way he hit this year is not sustainable everyday, and he can play defensively, but he’s obviously no Hech on that end….but he also might not even be back until September
He’s not an upgrade to anyone’s SS or infield if he can play 3rd or 2nd as well. Maybe the cardinals since they just told Johnny peralta to hit the bricks. Tbey should have done that 2 years ago. Or just never signed him.
48 hr time limit is almost up, if not already
Can’t see the Marlins getting a whole lot of return for Hech – just about every Org has a couple of all-glove, no stick kids who could provide comparative production. For a fraction of the price, too.
Or just go and get prime Brendan Ryan – elite glove but no bat. He was awesome.
I don’t know that I’d call this a “sweepstakes”. Guy can’t really hit and is not going to fetch the kind of pitching they need in Miami.
Yeah, it’s more like a scratch off lotto ticket.
Or a free medium fry in the McDonald’s Monopoly game.
How would TB use him? Is Beckham no longer looking like a long term option at SS?
I think it could be that they move Beckham to 2nd. He is okay defensively at SS, but he plays elite D at 2nd compared to Brad Miller. They already are getting little offense from 2nd, so might as well tighten up the run prevention; especially with their horrid bullpen.
What about Duffy?
Don’t do that padres
Yeah seriously. Especially if the Marlins are asking for young pitching in return.
Preller… Please put down the phone. It doesn’t sound like the asking price is that cheap on him if the Orioles and the Cardinals have already been ruled out.
So to give up anything of value during a rebuild, would be foolish. It can’t be anyone on the top 30 and for that matter, top 35 if you want to include Austin Smith, Brad Wieck and some of the guys right on the cusp of the top 30.
Michael Kelly possibly? But then again the last AA pitcher the Padres traded who was projected to be a middle of the rotation starter didn’t turn out to well, as he turned out to be the ace for the American League champions last year.
Ain’t worth it
We don’t need a short stop that badly
Depends if he agrees to an extension. If he agrees parting with some young pitching wouldnt be as bad if hes locked up through 2024.
If hes not agreeing to one i dont see the padres trading anything as he’s a FA for the 2019 season.
No
It could be a 3-way trade with the Rays, Padres and Marlins honestly.
The Rays have a surplus of young starting pitching plus tweener guys like Erasmo Ramirez. The Rays can upgrade at SS by acquiring Hechavarria and sending Beckham to the Padres, the Padres can add a fringy prospect to go Tampa’s way.
I’m not going to lie, but that sounds like the stupidest idea ever
Padres are rebuilding. They don’t need another short stop.
Aybar, corboda, and chase is enough
The padres ain’t giving up any prospects
They are acquiring them
Got any prospects?
Hechavarria is a better defender, but overall he is not an upgrade over Beckham. Trading 3.5 years of Beckham for 1.5 years of a worse player in Hech makes zero sense for the Rays.
What would make sense is trading for Hech as a defensive minded UIF and adding a RP. Hechavarria’s bat is terrible and his glove can’t make up for it and even at $4 million he looks to have negative value. He’ll help to offset the cost of the RP.
Yeah the Padres absolutely do not need to be giving up prospects during the middle of their rebuild, especially if the Marlins ask for guys like Quantril or Espinoza. I really hope this is just a smokescreen being put up by the front office.
You act like padres will be trading quantril lauer nix lucchesni llyod lockett lamet kelly etc for this guy……
No, they won’t.
But they could easily trade Trey Wingenter, Chris Huffman, Brett Kennedy if Hechevarria agrees to an extension. If the Marlins want more than that for him, walk away.
Trade Wingenter, trade Huffman, add in a high talent guy like buddy reed and sign hechevarria to a team friendly deal 6 years 35-40 mill tops
Wingenter, Huffman, and Reed for a cheap defensive 1st ss they lock up for years isnt breaking the bank.
Rays fan here and couldn’t agree more!
And what reason does Hech have to agree to that? You can’t just force players to sign extensions.
Primarily long term commitment and guaranteed money are his incentives. 6 years will carry him into his age 34 season. I say front load the contract 3 years 27 mill and back load 3 year 6 mill.- at worst hes a 2 mill a year defensive replacement in his 32 33 34 later years. He’ll hit the market when he’s 29-30 and may get a 4 or 5 year deal anyways. Probably won’t see as much money though if he has a 2018 season like 2017 so far.
You can’t force players to agree to extensions, but you can also not trade for said player unless the player agrees to an extension.
Literally said this already. Trade for him if he agrees to an extension, if not don’t trade for him.
Nothing. Just put down the phone, wait a year and a half and sign Hech in free agency.
Dodgers would make sense because Forsythe isn’t hitting good and the could but him at second
This would be a total waste of prospects for the Dodgers. Forsythe has been scuffling, but still has greater upside than Hechevarria at the plate. Yes, this would be a defensive upgrade, but with a likely cost of significant offense down the road.
No thanks.
The Dodgers have no need for Hech. Teams that would have a need would be an offense that can support a glove first ss. The Rays make sense because of their defensive woes. Forsythe is starting to figure it out again. Really that fractured toe and him trying to play through the pain didn’t help. The Dodgers aren’t truly in need of a defensive upgrade. Their needs for the playoffs are pretty identifiable a SP and a LH relief power arm.
You have to wonder why the Padres would be interested in a guy that will be a FA before they are supposed to be in contention starting in 2019.
They’re desperate for help at SS so I’m sure they’re just checking in on basically anyone who becomes available at the position. There were rumors during the offseason that they might try to acquire Zach Cosart or Jose Iglesia who are FA before the 2018 and 2019 seasons respectively.
It didn’t make sense then, and it doesn’t make sense now. They need to either find someone with 3+ years of control or just wait and figure out SS after 2018.
Oh my god!! Just read this guy already! I’m sick and tired of seeing this post at the top of the site!
Where are all those Brace Nation trolls who were looking to trade Tehran the last two years for every teams farm system. The baseball world was into you then and now you get to keep him. Quintana was another blunder who that asking price keeps plummeting.
The asking price on Quintana isn’t plummeting.
It’s interesting that the Marlins indicate they are moving Hech in order to reduce salary commitments. If the Marlins were able to offload some or all of Stanton’s monstrous contract, moves like this may not be necessary.
You Mean The 6 year/$107 million team friendly deal he’s on? Has nothing to do with Stanton. Has everything to do with what they’re paying Dee Gordon, Prado, Tazawa, Volquez, the other arb eligible guys like Ramos making 6.5 million and Koehler at 5.5….
I forgot to mention the money on Chen, who has been hurt the entire time.
Yea Stanton is opting out unless he falls off bad. Every Marlins fan knows this
If he stays healthy, he is opting out
Yea I’m agreeing with you. What would be a good return for adieny and barraclouch from the Rays?
The Marlins are going to move Hech at cents on the dollar. They won’t get much back. Including Barraclough to move Hech salary means they’ll likely get little in return with him in there as well. I’d move him for sure, but not in that way…but it’s this organization that we are talking about. The same one that has done stuff like this which put us in this position in the first place
I’m guessing a couple of pitchers in the Rays 18-35 range of prospects, say 2 guys from the Wood, Harris, Chirinos, Mujica neighborhood.
As a Marlink fan, I’ll generally take that. That’s what I was orginally assuming a few days ago, but the news today makes me feel like it won’t even be that much
If Barraclough goes too, Marlins better get a top 10 prospect from the Rays system…
Hahaha, not a chance! Rays system is deep (7 in top 100 MLB.com latest list.)
Astounding amount of attention to this one player–no criticism of MLBTR, intended. With the Marlins (and Loria) there’s always this sense of breathlessness.
“…a cheaper power arm with some control to help facilitate the deal (Twitter links). Crasnick notes that Barraclough would fit that bill…”
2015 – 6.66 BB/9 … 40.8 Zone% … 76.0 Z-Contact% … 14.9 SwStr%
2016 – 5.49 BB/9 … 44.1 Zone% … 79.8 Z-Contact% … 13.8 SwStr%
2017 – 6.29 BB/9 … 46.4 Zone% … 83.9 Z-Contact% … 11.6 SwStr%
How does Barraclough constitute someone with “some control”?
He walks an extreme amount of guys. And while sure he has gradually improved the number of strikes he is able to throw, similarly the oppositions contact rate has increased while the SwiningStrike rate has decreased – both at a similar rate to the increase in Zone%.
I have to imagine teams are able to see the risk Barraclough is if they dig into the numbers at all. He’s a good reliever now but has signs of being a powder-keg
Team control, not pitching control. And throwing in Barraclough just to trim Hech’s salary would be Loria’s parting gift to the fans.
If the Marlins want to just get it done and don’t expect much back Brian Ellington technically qualifies as a power arm with team control.
Ellington has similar command issues as Barraclough, but doesn’t miss as many bats. His fastball is straight and flat also, so he’s hittable, especially b/c his breaking ball isn’t great. He hasn’t really done anything in the big leagues, so he has no value
If the Marlins are expecting a good return for Barraclough, I might suggest they act extremely soon. They might have already hurt their case though – having apparently puled him from a distinct setup role after his disastrous May, and the numbers show they have only given him 5 high-leverage innings this season.
As I mentioned, teams will have to have spotted the issues so I might adjust expectations accordingly. Throwin would be rough to take as he is more than that, but his value is almost certainly lower than impressions would give.
5 years of control….but ya. Kyle Barraclough is Carlos Marmol. He’ll miss bats, but he will walk the world and lead the league in wild pitches
Yeah, as others have pointed out, I was referencing team control, but I definitely see the cause for confusion. Clarifying a bit in the post now.
My apologies. I had initially taken “cheaper” to be the end of the contract talk, but can now clearly see what was being said. Update makes it even clearer too, and thanks for understanding.
What’s the fascination with this guy? He offers next to nothing with the bat, and is not a GG shortstop……
Well, assuming you’re an angels fan, you’re spoiled with Simmons, but Hech is definitely an elite defensive SS. The way the Marlins position their infielders, and lack of use of analytics grades him down in the defensive metrics a little, but he is really good. He is elite going into the hole, and has improved a lot from his early years going up the middle, and charging in on balls. Strong arm.
Runner up GG 2x
Why would the Padres want Hech? To secure their 4th in place in the division over the Giants?