The Twins have effectively been for sale for the better part of the past year, but it seems the current ownership group is instead embarking on a new path. Executive chair Joe Pohlad announced in a press release this morning that his family is no longer pursuing a sale of the majority stake in the franchise and will instead sell minority stakes to a pair of new parties.
“Over the past several months, we explored a wide range of potential investment and ownership opportunities. Our focus throughout has been on what’s best for the long-term future of the Twins. We have been fully open to all possibilities,” Pohlad said in a prepared statement. “After a detailed and robust process, our family will remain the principal owner of the Minnesota Twins. To strengthen the club in a rapidly evolving sports landscape – one that demands strong partnerships, fresh ideas, and long-term vision – we are in the process of adding two significant limited partnership groups, each of whom will bring a wealth of experience and share our family values.”
The surprising 180-degree turn comes less than two weeks after the Twins gutted their roster in a trade deadline punctuated by slashing payroll. The Twins traded a whopping 11 players, including the five best relievers in what was a strong bullpen and shortstop Carlos Correa, who’d signed the largest contract in Twins history (six years, $200MM). The Twins sent Correa back to the Astros, including $33MM of cash to offset some of the remaining $103.5MM on his contract, and effectively receiving no return.
The entire slate of players traded by the Twins was fairly remarkable. Not only were rental players like Harrison Bader, Willi Castro, Danny Coulombe, Chris Paddack and Ty France shipped out, but so were controllable players like Correa and relievers Jhoan Duran, Griffin Jax, Louis Varland and Brock Stewart. The Twins dumped the remainder of Randy Dobnak’s contract on the Tigers as part of the Paddack trade as well. In all, Minnesota trimmed nearly $83MM in guaranteed money while also shrinking an arbitration class that would’ve called for notable 2026 raises for Duran, Jax and Stewart.
In the immediate aftermath, the general expectation was that the fire sale, which extended far more broadly than anyone anticipated, had been done as a means of increasing the appeal for potential buyers. Perhaps that’s still partially the case in reference to the incoming minority owners who are joining the group, but that’s a far different scenario than anyone anticipated — particularly after Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred voiced confidence at the All-Star break that a sale of the Twins would still come together sooner than later.
Following the Twins’ deadline teardown, the thinking has been that if the Pohlad family came to terms on a sale of the team quickly enough, new ownership might put a halt to further stripping down the roster in the offseason. Today’s announcement dashed any such hopes, meaning that Minnesota’s remaining appealing players will enter the offseason as prime trade candidates.
All-Star center fielder Byron Buxton said he planned to be a Twin for life when asked about his no-trade clause earlier this summer and doubled down on his desire to remain in Minnesota even after the deadline. There’s no reason to expect him to change that thinking. However, catcher Ryan Jeffers (controlled through 2026 via arbitration), right-hander Joe Ryan (controlled through 2027 via arbitration) and righty Pablo Lopez (signed through 2027 for $21.75MM annually) can all freely be traded, as can arb-eligible players like Trevor Larnach and Bailey Ober.
If the teardown was only about making the prospect of retaining ownership more palatable for the current group, there’s little reason to think the Pohlad family won’t push the front office to further reduce expenses. MLB.com ranked the Twins as the No. 2 farm system in the sport just this morning, after factoring in every team’s deadline dealings. Baseball America ranked them fourth on this morning’s post-deadline update. Offseason swaps involving some combination of Ryan, Lopez and/or Jeffers (among others) could vault them to the top spot in the game. That’s little consolation for a fanbase was riding high after the team snapped its postseason losing streak in 2023 — only to see Pohlad mandate a payroll cut amid uncertainty surrounding the team’s television broadcast rights.
The Pohlads have owned the Twins for more than 40 years. Carl Pohlad purchased the franchise for $44MM back in 1984. The Twins won the 1987 and 1991 World Series but quickly spiraled into a tumultuous state as Pohlad first looked to sell the team in the late 90s before nearly agreeing to his team’s contraction around the turn of the century before the Hennepin County District Court intervened. Carl Pohlad passed away in 2009, at which point his son Jim took over as the face of the team’s ownership group.
Jim remains the team’s chairman to this day but turned day-to-day oversight of the ownership group to his nephew, Joe, in November of 2022. There was some optimism among the fanbase in the months that followed. The Twins re-signed Correa to that franchise-record $200MM contract — a move that didn’t feel like it would ever have come together under the previous iterations of the Pohlad family ownership. Minnesota subsequently traded for Lopez and quickly signed him to a $73MM contract extension. Payroll climbed to a franchise-record $154MM on Opening Day 2023, and the Twins went on to reach the postseason and topple the Blue Jays, ending a two-decade drought in terms of postseason wins.
Those brief halcyon days now feel like a distant memory, and the immediate outlook for Twins fans is a grim one. Prospective buyer Justin Ishbia went from the perceived front-runner to purchase the club back in January to instead abandoning that pursuit as he instead agreed to increase his stake in the White Sox — where he was already a minority owner — with a path to majority control down the road. The Twins continued to explore potential sales even after Ishbia backed down, but with a reported $1.7 billion asking price and more than $400MM in debt, it seems no buyers materialized.
Instead, the Pohlad family will remain at the helm for at least the foreseeable future, placing the Twins alongside the Angels and Nationals as clubs that recently were put up for sale and pulled off the market after sufficient bids never manifested. The forthcoming additions to the ownership group are still pending the approval of Major League Baseball, per the Twins’ press release, and details won’t be made public until that league has signed off on the changes.
Joe Pohlad added in today’s statement that the Twins owners “see and hear the passion from our partners, the community, and Twins fans,” adding that said passion “inspires us.” It’s the type of boilerplate ownership speak that will ring hollow for a fanbase that has, for quite some time now, been desperate for changes that apparently aren’t coming anytime soon.
Poor Twins fans
Yeah I’m done. Have watched 100+ games almost every year since I was 12.
No more. Won’t support a team run by these people.
They have no interest in winning.
I hope the team debt continues to grow
So the Twins should go bankrupt trying to buy a championship?
No, ChuckyNJ, but they should make a reasonable attempt to compete. Teams consistently make money despite crying poor so often.
If their only hope of competing requires ownership to become bankrupt, then they need different ownership.
They’re not going bankrupt because of the twins. The debt is due to the Pohlad’s other businesses. They are Nepo babies who have broken everything they own. Just sell the team, take your 1.5 billion and screw off!
Go bankrupt? They have pocketed billions in profits while stealing from the community
I hate how frequently I’m reminded that so many people are willing to throw pity parties for these “poor billionaires.”
Crying poor ? Did you read the $400m in debt part ?
It’s not a pity party. It’s recognising the reality of the information that’s presented. It’s way better than the non stop completely unsubstantiated claims of “they all make money”.
foppert3,
Teams use and leverage debt to their advantage all the time. The Pohlads didn’t get as wealthy as they are by being bad at business.
Skepticism of what owners say about their finances is way better than the frequent and completely unsubstantiated claims of “they lost money.”
“The Pohlad’s deceased father and grandfather didn’t get as wealthy as he did by being bad at business.” Fixed it for you. These Pohlads inherited everything they got.
Why didn’t it sell ? Why did they have to settle for a minor stake ?
Shouldn’t folks be fighting each other to take the controlling stake in a baseball team ? You know, it’s just like printing money. Can’t lose. Who wouldn’t want that ? Where are they ?
Jim and Bill Pohlad are worth about $10 billion combined. Putting a franchise on the field that’s competitive yearly would not be hard for them at all.
I don’t think so. I think that is unjust. You trust what people say until they give you reason not to. Even if they are billionaires. Giants ownership are nice and transparent. Break even. No problem. I just appreciate the fact they are prepared to take on such a labour intensive, intensely scrutinised investment. The crap they deal with is awful. They had want to pull some good coin after selling it.
That’s from the owners other businesses they have tied to the Twins.
Pohlads aren’t going to go bankrupt paying for a competitive team. They make $200million a year in revenue sharing alone.
If the Steinbrenner’s worth $3.8 billion aren’t going bankrupt, the Polad’s worth $3.8 billion as well, won’t go bankrupt either
Foppert3, Billionaires run up debt like that because that way they don’t have to sell any of their ownership stake in their non-baseball primary business. It’s a tax-avoidance strategy. They avoid paying taxes on stock sales, and get to deduct the interest on their Twins debt so that it costs less. Then when each generation dies, their family stock gets stepped-up in basis so that it is transferred to the next generation tax-free. Don’t let that debt fool you, they are NOT poor.
@fop, Why didn’t it sell? Because they didn’t get the offer they wanted! Not because there was no interest!
Is it team debt or Pohlad “borrowings” against those assets?
They seem to me to be selling minority interests to stabilize the family’s finances, not the teams per se. Either way, the Twins don’t appear to be on a path that would inspire an increase in fan support.
It’s Twins org debt from stadium financing and stadium capital improvements over the years. Nothing to do with the other Pohlad investment holdings. Having long-term debt is not unusual. The Twins’ books are healthy from all I’ve read. MLB’s Central League Credit Fund provide loans for such investments. Steve Cohen bought the Mets and its’ $350M debt.
Think about it first. You love the Twins.
Seems like just yesterday we were trying to figure out which way the Twins were going to go and who was going to buy the team. And the answer all the time was steady as she goes-backwards, Or the ever popular- D None of the above.
It’s not just winning. Teams rebuild, they go through ups and downs. To do a cynical reset of the payroll by declaring that you “have to cut payroll to sell the team” and then calling backsies on selling the team, is really Fing low. I will not be putting any more money into the coffers of these jerks.
Thats funny Nothing. The Pohlads just took in $400 million for 20% of the Twins. Do you really think that the firms that are investing that money in the team would do that if they were deep in debt? Sportswriters are not investigative journalists. Rarely do they know what they are talking about when it comes to billionaire’s finances. The people that do are private equity firms like Arctos and Red Bird Capital that keep investing in more teams including the Twins.
As an Angels fan, THAT sports alert is/was the worst I ever got. Im sorry ya’ll..
Oh wow! Fans will thrilled to death.
Twin killing, if you will.
This is great for 29 teams.
28. No different for Bob Nutting.
But it still gives them a fighting chance!
Bob Nutting is the guy who needs to go. The Twins are at least a frequently competitive team with a lineup. It’s been decades – Before Nutting (BN) – when the Pirates really had a lineup.
Now that they don’t have a major league team they’ve decided to keep their major league team.
*decided to keep their minor league team featuring a few major leaguers*
Ie. we weren’t going to get as much money as we thought…
So true. They’re looking for a deal like the one Jerry Reinsdorf struck with Ishbia. Get someone to buy a minority interest with an option to buy the rest a few years down the road At the $1.7 billion they wanted.
Sometimes the simplest ideas are the best. There are more billionaires than professional sports teams, especially the very few that come up for sale.
Which puts the franchise in non-compete limbo all those years. That’s a horrible deal. And all to reduce his estate tax burden for his kids when he passes. Pretty sad when an MLB team exists as a tax shelter.
They wouldn’t be the weird-as Minnesota twins without doing weird-as stuff
It hurts to be a Minnesota sports fan. Put me out of my misery.
Least you’ve got the third wheel Vikings to layabout. Cool rowboat. Like the ones the Romans had in Ben Hur
Don’t count the Vikings out. JJ to JJ could be great.
Respect the vikes as a Bear fan. Especially that flugel horn they pipe in.
I think its all because of how well the trade deadline went and how promising the young prospects are.
Jenkins and Keaschell could be real good. Zebby Matthews has looked good in a few of his starts.
They are stacked on the farm.
Will have a good rotation too with Ryan, Lopez, Bradley, Matthews and Mick Abel and they have Woods-Richardson, David Festa, Travis Adams and Bailey Ober to work with as well. Its an ideal situation heading into ’26.
Twins are in great shape with the MLB team, the farm and the payroll. Might take a season to retool the bullpen but the Twins look ready to win as soon as next season.
They’ve been “taking a season or two to retool” for the past decade now.
I guess you could say Keaschell and Jenkins are the next Lee and Lewis but I think they are going to hit a ton.
The Twins have been in the playoffs in 4 of the last 8 seasons.
That is quite the rosey picture you are painting. Not very realistic though.
Both Lopez and Ryan will be traded this offseason, gtd. Buxton will then change his tune and will also want to be traded. They’ll be lucky to win 70 games the next 3-5 seasons…..
lol @kvick, the Twinkies have been to the playoffs 10 times this century. Try being a Reds or Pirates fan.
No mention of whether the new partners came on board before or after the sell off? If it was before the sell off, OMG.
The sell off was because of the new minority partners. Private equity firms like the one that just became a minority partner in the Twins are all about the data and the dollars. The Twins just cleared $100 million off their 2026 payroll between guaranteed contracts and arb raises they won’t have to pay. Their payroll is still estimated to be around $170 million in 2027 because of arb raises and the few guaranteed contracts they have.
Their farm is fantastic with 7 MLB ready or close to ready prospects in their top 10 and 15 of their top 30 prospects. The Twins are in a good position to break out in 2026 or 2027.
“Their payroll is still estimated to be around $170 million in 2027…”
Estimated by who? The Pohlads? The new minority partners? Because if its not either of them, its meaningless.
If its the new minority partners demanding the sell off, I wouldn’t take it as a good sign.
Potential Buyer: Your payroll is too high for us to make a significant offer.
Twins: We can fix that.
TRADE DEADLINE/FIRE SALE
Potential Buyer: This team blows. No thanks.
The other owners can “veto” a sale, can’t they?
Franchises have their own inherent valuations but could some of this inability to close a deal be attributed to other owners pressuring potential sellers behind the scenes to maximize returns in an effort to maximize the growth in theirs?
Not to minority partners, just a sale of a controlling share of the team or a change in the controlling partner.
Yes, but under our feeble self-serving commissioner, the league has been more about protect other owner’s assets 😉 in case they eventually need to do the same thing, rather than what’s best for the overall health and future of the league.
The A’s debacle set a dangerous precedent of how far Manfred and the league will go to prevent an owner from having to make a difficult yet necessary departure for the benefit of the league. Floundering around in Sacramento is a “too big to fail and sell off” move.
Arte?
That’s it for me.
I won’t support this team any longer
lol
This is a tragedy for Minnesota. I was hoping that the reason the Pohlads descimated the team with their fire sale was that new owners wanted to start fresh. Instead, it was just to pocket money for the billionaire Pohlads. .
As a former Charger fan, the Twins fans have my sympathy. It’s tough when the person that owns your favorite team has no interest in winning and does everything in his power to make sure fans don’t show up.
Another example of Dumb Jock Logic at its finest!
What?
ChuckyNJ,
Please give us your wisdom and insights into the process.
Inserting references from other sports in a baseball matter, for one thing.
Reducing complex situations to an oversimplified fantasy, for another.
You nailed two marks with your response. Your response said absolutely nothing except people are not allowed to compare sports for whatever reason. Second, if your goal was to refute what I was saying, this vague empty statement doesn’t do that 😂
You have to be an imbecile not to make money owning an NFL team, any NFL team.
Stan Kronke couldn’t make money in STL… LOL! What an imbecile!
So the Rams moved back to the city they came from in the 1980s and it only took a few years to put together a super bowl winning team
What a joke.
Good. Twins need to move towards more of what the Rays & Marlins are doing with player contracts and costs to be competitive.
You act like that is sustainable, even the Rays with all their gimmicks are stuck in mediocrity.
To be fair, this is the first time in some while that Tampa Bay is going through a down season. Keep in mind they got forced out of their ballpark through no fault of their own.
Not sure about the “through no fault of their own.” Hurricanes happen in that part of the country. It was sheer stupidity to not build drains into the stadium in the event the roof gets blown off.
@For Love of the Game
Oh no! Weather happens. Don’t build anywhere.
They had a down season last year too.
Under the current CBA the rays/marlins model is totally unsustainable imo.
Yuck
The Pohlads, Nuttings, Fishers, and Monforts need to sell three of their teams and become one super team of incompetence. I’m sure they can all chip in their quarter of misery for the fanbase.
New CBA agreement: the worst team in 2028 is now owned by those 4 penny pinchers.
Come on dawg, gotta include micro**** Moreno in there too.
This smells like they weren’t getting the price they wanted and the balance sheet wasn’t sexy enough. They cut payroll and still couldn’t get buyers to a price they wanted.
It has been reported that the team has a debt of $425 million. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are pushing for top dollar on the valuation and the new owner assumes the debt. That pushes the sale price towards 2 billion or more.
I am betting the top offer was somewhere between 1.4 to 1.6 billion but the Pohlad’s eat the debt they created. This means the Pohlad’s net 1 to 1.2 billion. It is still a great return considering they paid $44 million for the team and $195 million for the new stadium.
$1.6b sounds like a lot, but over 40 years it’s not much more than 10%. That’s a great return, but stocks pretty much matched it, so as an investment or windfall machine it’s not great.
That said, if it was a better-run franchise it wouldn’t be carrying $400m in debt, it would have invested at the moments when a little more would have made a difference (eg 2023) rather than reeling it back (eg 2024) to normal. They always ran in middle of the road rather than trying to win, and a soft valuation is the result.
That said, you don’t buy a sports team as an investment anymore. The numbers are not as rosy as they used to be and it can be a lot of work to stay on top of things. You have to love the game to be successful and these Pohlads do not love it. Hope the new guy comes in with enough money to credibly take over as managing partner and make decisions based on success rather than return.
TLDR: They will never succeed so the new blood should get the job as the active managing partner.
Wow, and I thought the fire sale was my low point as a Twins fan. This tops it by multitudes. Guess we can say goodbye to Lopez and Ryan as soon as the offseason begins.
Boo this man! Boo!
Dang it! Just as I was about to submit my bid.
“Our focus throughout has been on what’s best for the long-term future of the Twins.”
And given their terrible tenure as owners, retaining ownership is what they came up with?!
The Yankees continuously beating us and the Pohlad’s staying. We’re cursed.
That sucks Twins fans, you guys deserve a better owner.
Billy Heywood from the movie Little Big League
The lady from Major League used to be a movie villain, but we’ve got a few villain owners in the sport now.
The owner from “Rookie of the Year” acted like he was drinking codeine the entire film
“We are in the process of adding two significant limited partnership groups, each of whom will bring a wealth of experience and share our family values.” Experience in what? Making money? Owning a professional team, at least in America, is like having a golden goose. The franchise values all go up so it doesn’t matter when you get in, you’ll still get your money back, and then some. And it is all paid for by overcharging the fans with ticket prices/concessions/parking/television contracts & using the money of taxpayers to build or refurbish stadiums (and pay to tear down old stadiums). The rich get richer. Corporate welfare. It’s no different in other businesses across the country. The consumer/taxpayer gets raked over the coals while the pigs at the top roll in the dough. Politicians won’t help. They’re not part of the middle class. Boycott wherever possible.The only voice you have is speaking with the money you have that they haven’t already taken.
If you don’t like the product or its price, don’t buy the product.
Pure ignorance… it’s already to a point where some people can’t pay their bills while working at least 40 hours a week. Those people already choose not to “buy the product” but their taxes still pay for the billionaires’ stadiums & they pay higher prices for any products in commercials that air during sporting events because of the ridiculous TV contracts. Not sure how old you are but it used to be affordable for the average, one income family, to have a home & a vehicle while only working 40 hours a week. That’s not attainable for the average family anymore. Deregulation has let corporations run wild.
Jealous of people who work very hard and smart?
I am surprised you were able to type with all that boot in your mouth,
I’m retired with a very high net worth. I don’t need to lick anyone’s boots. And I made it all myself. I’m sorry success has bypassed you, Boycott, and the other socialist losers.
Congrats, but the vast majority of billionaires are not self-made, they inherit their wealth. In this case the children of money are bad owners and need to go, I won’t defend the Eat The Rich crowd, but the Pohlads suck the chrome off trailer hitches.
Sure, Jan.
crise, that would be too much work for the Pohlad kids.
What a Mickey Mouse organization! The fans deserve so much more than this clueless owner.
I wish it was a Mickey Mouse organization. Disney is loaded. They’d probably spend on building a competitive roster every year.
Owners like this are worse for baseball than anything the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets have done.
Absolute garbage.
Im in the minority, but i like what the twins did. Picking up bradley and abel gives them an enviable group of starters to choose for their rotation. Bullpens can be rebuilt.
Regarding ownership, dude owns the team and can do what he wants. Sell or keep the team, doesnt matter. With strong front office the twins have had the budget to be competitive in most years regardless of who owns it.
You’re not fooling anyone, Jim Pohlad.
I’m kinda with you. Rebuilding a bullpen as strong as that bullpen was will be a monumental task, but it can be done over time. If Bradley doesn’t put it together as a starter this and next season he will be a good late inning reliever. Same with other starters in the system.
Shedding Correa was a bad look, but his performance was not lining up with his salary. They also have a legit SS prospect performing well in AA, and several more behind him. Moving on without Correa is no killer.
Now that the team isn’t for sale, I really hope they hold on to Ryan and Lopez because the rotation is good for the next several years.
The further removed from the deadline, the less crazy I think it was. The front office’s focus will be building a strong relief corps from within, and hopefully, fill gaps in the offense via free agency with some of the money saved in the Correa deal. It could have been much worse.
So the Pohlads said they’d sell the team, Rob Manfred told the public that he was confident that a “transaction would take place”, ownership and the front office sold off every player that was making money from ongoing contracts or future arbitration, and then the Pohlads say they’re actually going to keep the team?
What a ****ing joke. Unbelievable.
Arte Moreno pulled a similar 180 a few years ago.
I felt a great disturbance in the force – as if thousands of Twins fans cried out in agony.
The White Sox have nothing to worry about now…
Seems like if they implemented a salary cap, a salary floor, increased pre-arbitration salaries significantly, eliminated the arbitration process (resulting in earlier free agency), and raised the salaries of minor leaguers, the whole “my owner is cheap” or “my owner only cares about profits” would largely be eliminated.
All the while, the players would make more money on the whole despite upper echelon salaries being much lower, but still really big. Owners would be forced to spend to at least field a competitive team. And, minor leaguers would earn a salary that they can actually start/raise a family on.
This is why I’m actually hoping for a lockout/strike after next season (assuming they don’t iron things out, which we all know they won’t). Baseball is long overdue for these changes.
I’ll buy the Twins. Just let me inherit 100 billion dollars from my Uncle’s Stepson’s best Friends ex girlfriends sister’s ex husband Longfellow Deed.
Actually I would buy the Cubs. I’ll let Billy Haywood keep ownership of the Twins.
Rob Manfred? Is that you?
Nope. I’m not Rob Manfred. If I was. The ghost runner would have never been a thing. An ABS would’ve been implemented by now and I would’ve never allowed the Astros to keep their 2017 championship. And lastly I would’ve done the right thing and reversed Jim Joyce’s safe call on Armando Galleraga’s perfect game. And properly awarded Mr. Galleraga with a perfect game.
For the poster above you!
Okay. I didn’t even read their comment. My bad.
You commented on a post you didn’t read? That’s weird.
BleacherCreature….Out of curiosity, what do you think is pro-owner and what do you think is pro-player in my post? Here’s my take…
Pro-owner – Salary Cap
Pro-Player – Salary Floor / Higher pre-arb salaries / no arbitration/earlier free agency / Higher minor leaguer salaries.
So I’m curious why you ask if I’m Rob Manfred? A labor agreement must have give and take on both sides. To get a salary cap in baseball (which is sorely needed), the players are going to need a lot of concessions. The players get a TON in my proposal. I’m just confused by your comment.
You’re proposing spreading the money around without giving (MLB/MiLB) players collectively a slightly bigger piece of the ever-increasing MLB revenue pie. It’s essentially what Manfred wants while suppressing upper-tier salaries.
I didn’t even notice I was replying to your comment. I thought it was a normal comment. Sorry n Scheiße
@YBC
As I watch MLB broadcast revenues drop, and broadcast partners opt out, or even declare bankruptcy, I can’t say the term “ever-increasing” would be one I would use to describe MLBs revenue pie with any certainty.
Going to disagree, Reno.
Baseball doesn’t need a salary cap. Caps are merely tools used to suppress player salaries, disguised as tools to create “parity.” Even if you institute a floor, it will be a floor owners such as the Pohlads negotiate for. Those are some of the same owners collecting massive amounts of revenue sharing dollars while fielding comically low payrolls.
Baseball would never do it, but the real solution would be to institute relegation– not simple, I know. But if you run your team like a AAA team, then you risk being relegated to AAA. Hit them in the wallet, you get their attention.
That would never pass, though.
So, honestly, I’m hoping we keep things as the status quo. If they institute a prolonged lockout for a salary cap, I may not care enough to comeback to the game– I don’t know. They’ve already instituted so many changes I don’t like, but I try to roll with it. I watch less games now than I used to, I know that.
A lockout for a cap might be a bridge too far, for me.
That’s a fair take, although I disagree with it. However, I ABSOLUTELY agree with a relegation system. I never mention it because, as you said, it’ll never happen. But I’d totally be on board with that.
But while I see your point about the salary cap, it’s tough to argue that the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, etc don’t have a competitive advantage over teams like the Rays, Brewers, and Indians. There’s way too much disparity in payrolls and it makes for a product which isn’t interesting as a whole. Sure, a smaller market team perhaps can break through once or twice, but you know the Dodgers will be competitive and if the Yankees have a down year like last year, they’ll be right back in it the following year. Baseball needs more parity, however that may happen.
Too bad they devalued the franchise so much that nobody wanted to pay off the family debt.
I’ve worked my tail off for 30 years for my money. Work hard, and you can get there too.
In my experience the people who actively boast about how hard they work for their money have zero idea what actual hard work is
People in this thread crack me up. Don’t know what hard work is? I worked on oil rigs for 10 years, then took my savings, and started a business that I sold after 14 years for high six figures. Don’t talk to me about hard work.
Working hard is not the path to billions in net worth. Less than 30% of the current billionaires in the US worked for their riches, and about 50% of those got a huge hand up from inherited money or businesses.
Of the 121 billionaires in the US that built their wealth from actual work, no inherited money/businesses worth millions to hundreds of millions, 97 of them got rich slurping at the federal government’s trough.
Man this blows for Twins fans. Just speculating but the Pohlads are probably going to push to minority investors an ROI and long-term, franchise value appreciation. It’s going to be a long rebuild.
The smartest move for the franchise at this point it to bring in a Luhnow type GM and finish the year down. Spend these next three years drafting College players in mid to low rounds (focus on pitching/power)and elite infield talent at the top. Develop the international talent scouting/signings and conduct an actual rebuild. Life in the middle sucks as a fan.
The Twins have a great farm system heavily laden with MLB ready or near ready prospects. They will have to make some MLB additions, but in no way do they need to spend 3 years rebuilding a farm system that is already strong.
You have got to be kidding me.! I hate the Pohlad family with a passion. The only thing left now is for Twins fans to boycott the team. Don’t attend games, don’t buy merch, don’t even watch the games on TV.
Pohlad family is contemplating a relocation of the team to Savannah, Georgia; the Hostess City of the South.
Team will be rechristened “The Hostess City Twinkies”.
what crooks!
Truly, my sympathies to all Twins fans.
Frank McCourt taught me how painful it can be to have loyalty to a team owned by someone unwilling to act in good faith. Dodgers fans and the city of Los Angeles were very fortunate that McCourt was egregiously corrupt, forcing MLB’s hand to apply pressure for a sale.
Incompetent, self-serving owners like Pohlad, Moreno, who follow the rules and the law, are curses on fans.
I wouldn’t wish anything like the McCourt ownership fiasco on any team… well, except the Astros.
That would have been a better punishment than the slap on the wrist they got.
I do feel for the fans of certain franchises with crap owners. But at least their owners can make payroll, even if the payroll is lower than it should be.
Don’t blame the Twins or ownership. This is the fault of MLB and the MLBPA.
There are two leagues. Not American and National. There are contenders and then there are triple a teams that are currently in the majors.
Sadly the Twins are now in that catagory
They join the likes of
A’s
Miami
Pittsburgh
Colorado
White Sox
And the teams that “pretend” to contend
Cleveland
Kansas City
Angels
Reds
Arizona
Baltimore
That is more than 1/3 of the league
You want people to blame.
1. Greedy owners who are cheap
2. Agents like Scott Borros who demand contracts worth more than some teams entire payrolls
3. Owners that are stupid enough to offer and pay those contracts
Lastly.
I hope you all enjoy the post season and next season. Once the 2026 World Series is over. You will not be seeing baseball for quite some time. The owners will lock out the players. I would be STUNNED if we have a 2027 season.
Three major hurdles
Salary Cap
Deferred Money
Revenue Sharing
It is Sad. Thank god I have labor peace in my beloved NHL for the next 5 years
Poor take.
The Pohlads could’ve sold for less than their asking price. After all, they bought the Twins in 1984 for $137M adjusted for ’25 inflation. They wanted 10-fold plus that amount for team and its’ debt. The Twins franchise is not bleeding money.
Minor league teams do not partake in revenue-sharing where its owners can line their own pockets instead of investing in next years’ payroll.
The only thing keeping the Pohlads from being the worst owners in MLB is the presence of John Fisher
Pohlad going to look for contraction like dad did back in 2001
MLB has been using the Twins as a case study in the ‘perils’ of MLB ownership for decades. Going all the way back to when Hall of Famer, Bud Selig worked so diligently to contract the Minnesota franchise.
Coincidentally, now that the sport is getting ready to lock out the only employees within the sport that matter, the financial viability of the Twins comes into question again…
The dumb luck the Pohlad family had drafting Kirby Puckett, when the hometown Cubs passed him over for Troy Afenir. No Puckett and the fans wouldve drummed them out years ago.
Actually they bought the team 2 years after Puckett was drafted.
“we see and hear the passion from our partners, the community, and Twins fans”
Translation: “I know everyone hates us even more now than they did before, please keep buying our stuff though”
Its yet another bad day for Twins fans. However, the decision by the Pohlads to remain as principal owners may be part of a much bigger story.
Minnesota is the third franchise that has been unable to find a buyer at anywhere near the asking price.
The biggest incentive for buying an MLB team is the huge markup when it sells. While no doubt that owners make money along the way and are able to take advantage of common accounting business practices to intermingle the franchise with other businesses that ownership controls…while also not having to publicly disclose most of it…the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow was the main draw. It was a golden parachute for every owner, no matter how poorly he/she ran the franchise.
An owner could pocket his annual profits, suck the money out of the franchise, even coerce the community into giving him local, state, and federal tax money, and when nearly everything was bled dry, sell at an immense profit.
It appears the the leprechauns may have taken the pot of gold.
This should set off flashing red lights, bells, whistles, and sirens all across MLB.
*******
An earlier comment was made about socialism. It was aimed at those who questioned the actions of wealthy people who owned pro franchises.
Professional franchises and their owners are the very definition of socialism and socialists.
Nearly every major professional sport has some form of revenue sharing, in other words, socialism. And name one major professional franchise that does not accept tax monies and tax incentives that are not available elsewhere. The many GIVE money to the few. Corporate WELFARE, if you please, or….socialism.
That’s a really good point. Other leagues (EPL for instance) seem to be more popular with prospective owners. This may be especially so in a smaller market, where an ownership group would really have to dig their own pockets to pay to field a top 15 team.
This is the worst news in the history of history!
Who would own the sports teams? And who would play? Movies? Who would act. And after the billions of dollars pile up from no one being a billionaire, where does that money go? Does it just sit around? Making the money everyone now has worthless? Supply and demand.
I have heard through several sources that Arctos Sports Partners, a private equity firm, is one of the new minority owners of the Twins. They also have investments in 6 other MLB teams.
Holy conflict of interest Batman.
Sure love the ball park. I will miss it. But hey the Brewers and Cubs are closer anyway. I’ll spend my money on them…
Even a reasonable commissioner would not approve whatever scheme they’re cooking up to clear their sizable debt.
Owners like the Polhads and Reinsdorf with his similar disvestment with opportunity to buy control in 6 years are devaluing other franchises and leaguewide bargining power, and other owners who pay in to the luxury tax pool have to be getting tired of propping them up.
It’s not only bad business, you’re permanently alienating the paying customers.
MLB teams are allowed to have debt up to 50% of the value of the team. The Twins are at about 25%. Its all in the stadium. That is a healthy amount of debt for a corporation.
That’s not even a ton of debt for a franchise estimated to be worth about 2 billion. The stadium will eventually pay for all. Despite the debt the team generates 356 million in revenue every year. Most that debt is the Twins contributions to getting Target Field built.
If they couldn’t sell it for 1.7 then the 2 billion estimation is obviously wrong.
They were reportedly asking $1.7 billion for the team.
Im guessing the Pohlad family thought they could get 4 or 5 billion in a sale. The Lakers just went for 10 billion and the Celtics I think for 6 billion. It’s possible they thought A-Rod with his group would buy the Twins considering he bought the T-Wolves for I think 2 billion. I think they are waiting on an over market price but you aren’t getting that unless you are a marquee franchise right now.
I’m so sorry Twins fans. You deserve better than this absolute nonsense.
The new minority ownership partners must be real brainiacs to get involved with the Pohlads. I always wanted to be a fan of a team that has a highly subjectively rated farm org, but the team that matters sucks. Kinda like those that rave about exit velocity and expected stats when the results just never seems to happen as expeted.
Interesting. “Limited partnership groups” means private equity. Those groups can own no more than 15% of the team and Minneapolis media are saying the Pohlad’s sold those shares for $400 million. What does that indicate the total value of the team is?
At least one of the new partners is a PE firm. If they sold $400 million as is rumored, that places the Twins value at $2.0 billion.
Unlike a minority owner like Ishbia with the White Sox, PE firms cannot increase their holdings in the team.
Stick it to the fan. Bring in cash and dump salary. It’s the american way.. We can pay younger players lots less and still provide entertainment. Competition pales in comparison to profit. What’s more important than profit? Get used to it folks. They are going to lock out the players in 2027 and try like heck to crush the union..If you look at the majority of free agents. they are on the whole at least 30 years old. It didn;t happen by accident.