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Red Sox, White Sox “In Talks” On Todd Frazier

By Steve Adams | July 18, 2017 at 7:15pm CDT

The Red Sox and White Sox are “in talks” on third baseman Todd Frazier, tweets Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports. Heyman notes that there’s nothing known to be done yet but adds that something could come together “fairly soon.” For what it’s worth, Frazier was announced as a healthy scratch from tonight’s lineup, which further lends credence to the notion that something could come together. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reported over the weekend that the two sides had begun to move closer to a Frazier swap.

The 31-year-old Frazier is set to hit free agency at season’s end, and while his production this year hasn’t been up to par, he’s turned things on since the the calendar flipped to June. Over his past 37 games, Frazier has batted .234/.361/.508 with nine homers and eight doubles — all of which would be a mammoth upgrade over the woeful production that Boston has received at the hot corner this season. To date, Boston third baseman have collectively posted a miserable .227/.281/.325 batting line through 359 plate appearances.

Overall, Frazier’s .207/.328/.432 slash line is hardly eye-popping, but he’s also shown some positive indicators that point toward positive regression. He’s upped his walk rate to a career-high 14.3 percent in 2017 while also cutting his strikeout rate by more than three percent — from 24.5 percent in 2016 to 21.2 percent in 2017. Beyond that, Frazier has cut his infield-fly rate and seen increases in his line-drive and hard-contact rates. As such, it stands to reason that he could continue to improve upon a .214 batting average on balls in play that is currently the second-worst mark among all qualified Major League hitters.

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  1. partyatnapolis

    8 years ago

    tell me something i don’t already know

    Reply
    • champions67

      8 years ago

      I got a new pair of shoes

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    • cvarneski

      8 years ago

      I once open mouth kissed a horse.

      5
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      • rbisingle

        8 years ago

        That poor horse

        5
        Reply
    • dstuart

      8 years ago

      I dress up in women’s clothing on occasion.

      2
      Reply
      • df08988

        8 years ago

        He said something he DIDNT know.

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    • bigcubsfan

      8 years ago

      There is a guy dressed up in a clown suit in your closet, who is waiting for you to fall asleep.

      Reply
    • ABCD

      8 years ago

      You didn’t know that the Red Sox would not get Frazier after all.

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  2. Michael Birks

    8 years ago

    Great, another guy who can’t hit his weight, promote Devers already

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      8 years ago

      Devers isn’t ready and Frazier provides solid defense plus gets on base. And, since it seems you’ve missed it, his OPS is over .900 since the start of June. I’d take that any day.

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      • chesteraarthur

        8 years ago

        328 isn’t a good obp and he was negative at 3b last year and is again this year.

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        • sdsuphilip

          8 years ago

          The average 3B obp is 327 per fangraphs

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        • cmancoley

          8 years ago

          lol shut down @chesteraarthur

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        • ReverieDays

          8 years ago

          He said good, not average.

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        • davidcoonce74

          8 years ago

          power counts, too, right?

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        • Pilzbrydroboy

          8 years ago

          You again. Chesternut.. where were you when the sox got that haul of prospects for Quintana? It was like you didnt want to show your face

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        • wartdog

          8 years ago

          I have never seen him say a single positive thing about another team.

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      • timyanks

        8 years ago

        is there a base on the bench for frazier? that where he is most of the time when not in the field.

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        • wartdog

          8 years ago

          Isn’t everyone on the bench when not on the field?

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        • timyanks

          8 years ago

          frazier has a base in the dugout. it boosts his on base percentage

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        • hiflew

          8 years ago

          I hope you are good looking IRL, because being clever sure isn’t your thing.

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    • sdsuphilip

      8 years ago

      The year is 2017, I would think by now people would stop acting like batting average is a relevant statistic when measuring batting performance. Frazier has had a wRC+ of 100 for 4 straight years (this year and last barely over). He’s a perfectly adequate short term replacement and devers can get his shot next year

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      • timyanks

        8 years ago

        runs scored and rbi’s mean more than any other stat

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      • wartdog

        8 years ago

        BA is still a fine stat to determine performance.You can use other advanced metrics to see someone is doing fine with a low BA, but dont get too caught up in 2017 statistics to say BA isn’t relevant.

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      • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

        8 years ago

        I love baseball. I read quite a bit on here and a few other places every day. I watch most of my team’s games and talk baseball with anyone and everyone willing in real life. That being said I have never heard anyone cite wRC or anything other than the usual slash line in a conversation.

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    • ThePriceWasRight

      8 years ago

      for what the red Sox would have to give up for both (little if they eat salary) this is a good move. why push a young kid into the thick of a playoff race and potentially hurt his confidence. he will be with the big club next year and likely called up in September if Frazier is truly horrible.

      Also the power Frazier can bring is big since the Sox don’t hit HR this year.

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    • Kevin 23

      8 years ago

      Frazier would be a huge acquisition for the Red Sox! He is a victim of that atrocious RH hitters park in Chicago and his stats back that up. This year his road splits have him hitting .270/.368/.555 with 11hrs and a .923ops in 41 games on the road. He is also one of the best clubhouse guys in all of baseball!

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    • YankeeMan3099

      8 years ago

      Devers is in the deal going to the White Sox lol

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      • Kevin 23

        8 years ago

        If you believe that for a second then you have the baseball IQ of a cucumber!

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  3. A'sfaninUK

    8 years ago

    Frazier was hugging and shaking hands in the dugout, is still there while the game is on (also talking to David Roberston hm).

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    • Matt Galvin

      8 years ago

      Could be the Trade is about to be announced but stil working out final details and if any other White Sox in it maybe.

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        I got the game on, snagged MLB.tv for $10 when they had that flash sale. Kershaw is pitching too this is a fun one.

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        • raysdaze

          8 years ago

          Sorry Sox fans, Yanks coming in hot

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        • El Duderino

          8 years ago

          What flash sale (so I can look out for next year)?

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  4. Sasha C. Handelman

    8 years ago

    Getting Frazier and Robertson would shore up 3rd base conundrum that had been Sandoval/Marerro/Lin/Holt as well as providing a proven 8th inning arm in Robertson!

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  5. sdsuphilip

    8 years ago

    I can’t believe a credible reporter tweeted that obvious fake Rosenthal tweet

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  6. RedSoxFan2017

    8 years ago

    We wouldn’t have to have this search for a 3B if we never gave up Shaw.

    Grumble, grumble

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      8 years ago

      Don’t complain too much. I’m sure Frazier will be relatively cheap.

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      • sources

        8 years ago

        Shaw gave absolutely nothing the 2nd half of last year. He had a chance to win the 3rd base job and didn’t. It’s pretty easy to second guess the move after Thornburg got hurt.

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        • davbee

          8 years ago

          Except most people thought the Red Sox gave up too much for Thornburg at the time of the trade too.

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        • B-Strong

          8 years ago

          Who’s most people? I didn’t see many that said that at all. It looked like a win/win actually. The Brewers got a promising prospect and a serviceable 3B option at the MLB level for a very good relief arm. Considering they were supposed to have a healthy and reduced weight Panda along with Holt as a backup in case that didn’t pan out, cutting Shaw loose seemed fine at the time because as stated, he didn’t do anything the 2nd half to cement himself as their every day 3B option. NOBODY expected Shaw to have the year he’s having, nor Holt to be out damn near all year, nor Thronburg to not pitch a single inning during the regular season. It was a perfect storm of bad luck for the Red Sox. Hindsight is always 20/20.

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  7. dazedatnoon

    8 years ago

    Coming with Robertson….could be a decent package

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    • dazedatnoon

      8 years ago

      seen a random guy saying Dalbec and Raudes……probably not true

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    • Michael Birks

      8 years ago

      Robertson his signed next year too, right?
      Thornburg
      Smith
      Kelly
      D Rob
      Barnes
      Kimbrel

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        That’s a sick pen, damn.

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      • Sasha C. Handelman

        8 years ago

        That’s a decent bullpen if BIG if all are healthy

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      • Kevin 23

        8 years ago

        Only problem is that 3 of them are always hurt.

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  8. RedSoxFan2017

    8 years ago

    Do we know who the Red Sox are likely to give up?

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    • ctc46

      8 years ago

      Speculation is Sam Travis is possibly in the deal because he’s a scratch tonight in Triple-A. Personally I’ll be highly pissed if they traded him..

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      • B-Strong

        8 years ago

        I’d be very pissed. Sam Travis is as much our future 1B option as Devers is our 3B.

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    • Kevin 23

      8 years ago

      Nobody. Frazier is going to Yankees with Robertson and Kahnle.

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  9. GMB 883

    8 years ago

    Get the deal done but no serious prospects. Frazier will be a FA and Robertson is making a lot of $. Devers can come up next year. Don’t want or need to rush him.

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    • Priggs89

      8 years ago

      Robertson isn’t making anywhere near enough money for the Sox to just dump him for nothing. Not to mention they were willing to eat money in the offseason for a better return. Seeing as he has bounced back performance-wise, I don’t see why it’d be any different now.

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    • pullhitter445

      8 years ago

      Robertson will for sure return a significant prospect Frazier would cost significantly less. The white sox have more leverage with Robertson and can demand a ton more. White sox asked Washington for Victor Robles when talking about Robertson, considering Robertson has performed well they will still be looking for top system prospects

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    • davbee

      8 years ago

      Give me the players I want for our garbage. Typical Red Sox fan.

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  10. billysbballz

    8 years ago

    Drop is in the trade? Wow….. Boston was all in with Sale trade, now they are just picking off white sox players as if its there AAAA team!

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    • billysbballz

      8 years ago

      Drob Sorry…..

      Reply
  11. YankeeMan3099

    8 years ago

    Yanks will jump in and grab both this deal isn’t done yet.

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    • Priggs89

      8 years ago

      I hope so. A mini-bidding war sounds perfect

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      • YankeeMan3099

        8 years ago

        Deal done is done the White Sox are getting Devers in the deal lol they are stupid the Red Sox

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        • Priggs89

          8 years ago

          I can all but guarantee that won’t happen – although I’d LOVE it

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        • Steve Adams

          8 years ago

          That’s a fake report from a fake Ken Rosenthal on Twitter.

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        • Kevin 23

          8 years ago

          That’s a fake twitter post dummy!

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    • CardsNation5

      8 years ago

      You’re right and the deal is close

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  12. rycm131

    8 years ago

    Benetendi for Frazier? BoSox have a crowded outfield as it is might make sense
    For both teams

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    • Kevin 23

      8 years ago

      This has to be a joke or a troll. If not you should stop watching baseball because you know less than a 2 year old does.

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    • thekid9

      8 years ago

      Benintendi for Frazier? Son, fat , drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

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    • JKB 2

      8 years ago

      Rycm131 you do not know anything about baseball. Do not speak.

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  13. aussiegiants53

    8 years ago

    Isn’t this like the 8th time we’ve “heard” this… sheesh get er done already haha

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  14. MB923

    8 years ago

    Bruce Levine is now saying the Yankees are the closest to getting Frazier, Robertson and Kahnle.

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    • Priggs89

      8 years ago

      Just saw that. Come on bidding war lol

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        Rosenthal says NYY is close on those 3 for prospects

        “Source: #Yankees close to getting Frazier, Robertson and Kahnle from #WhiteSox for prospects.”

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  15. CardsNation5

    8 years ago

    He’s going to the Yankees according to Ken Rosenthal

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  16. a1544

    8 years ago

    SIKE

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    • IronBallsMcGinty

      8 years ago

      People still say that? And I thought it was psyche.

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  17. mafiabass

    8 years ago

    Sonofa…

    DO NOT LET NYY GET THESE PEOPLE

    Reply
  18. thekid9

    8 years ago

    Love stats but this lipstick on a pig. .207/.328 gak

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    • ctguy

      8 years ago

      A pig that the Sox wanted

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