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What If The Rays Turn Into Late-August Sellers?

By Jeff Todd | August 25, 2017 at 12:45am CDT

We’re not there yet. After a win tonight, the Rays sit three games under .500 and three games out of Wild Card position. A week from now, the club could easily be in the thick of things. But with the division out of reach, a healthy bunch of teams still to leapfrog just to make the play-in game, and a six-game Missouri road trip on tap, it’s also quite possible that Tampa Bay could find itself all but buried by the end of the month. (After August 31st, of course, players are no longer eligible for the postseason if they change organizations.)

That raises an interesting question: what would it look like if the Rays were to make a late effort at marketing some short-term assets? After all, the club could well see cause to shed salary if it feels its hopes at a postseason berth are dashed.

The organization carried just $70MM of payroll entering the season — a pittance for most teams, but not far from the franchise high. It went on to add a couple of million dollars by acquiring Trevor Plouffe (with part of his salary paid by Oakland), Steve Cishek (offset by Erasmo Ramirez and some cash from Seattle), Sergio Romo, and Dan Jennings. While those acquisitions were largely offset by the $2.35MM or so that was saved when Colby Rasmus left the club, the Rays also took on all of what was then still owed to Adeiny Hechavarria ($4.35MM annual salary) and Lucas Duda ($7.25MM).

When the calendar flips to September, there’ll only be about one-sixth of the regular season left to play, and thus only that portion of remaining salary to pay down. Still, moving a few players — even for marginal or no returns — could add up to a fair amount of savings in relative terms. And some of the possible trade candidates might well recoup some useful talent, too.

With teams like the Twins and Rangers perhaps now pivoting back toward the buy side, and other organizations now having had time to re-think their needs, there may yet be some intriguing opportunities. Though the Rays may have better odds at snagging a Wild Card than the division-rival Orioles and Blue Jays, Tampa Bay also operates under much more stringent budgetary constraints and has more potential August trade chips. The very moves that the Rays have made to push toward contention — mostly, adding useful veterans on short-term deals — have left the team with a bunch of useful assets if a last-minute sell-off is pursued.

Bearing in mind that this is completely hypothetical — and that we don’t know the waiver statuses of these players (excepting Duda, who cleared once) — here are the most interesting players the Rays could plausibly consider dealing at month’s end (with approximate remaining 2017 salary for October in parentheses):

  • Alex Cobb, SP ($700K) — Cobb is a free agent at season’s end and has generally turned in quite a solid year. While he has been knocked around a few times, Cobb currently owns a 3.80 ERA with 5.9 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 over 147 innings. Rumors of his full return to top-quality pitching may have been exaggerated, but he could certainly shore up some rotations and might even be seen as a potential postseason starter for some clubs. Cobb would surely be a candidate for a waiver claim, but could sneak through or be claimed by a team that would give something up via trade.
  • Jake Odorizzi, SP ($683K) — This seems quite a bit less likely, due both to Odorizzi’s remaining control rights and his struggles thus far (4.74 ERA) in 2017. But perhaps it’s not out of the question that he’d clear waivers.
  • Steve Cishek, RP (~$500K, factoring portion paid by Mariners) — The sidearmer has a clean sheet through 11 frames with Tampa Bay, allowing just four hits and three walks while racking up a dozen strikeouts. He’d make for a hot commodity on a market starved of relief pitching.
  • Sergio Romo, RP ($500K) — Romo, too, has been quite good since finding a new home. In his 15 innings with the Rays, he carries a 12:1 K/BB ratio and 2.40 ERA. The veteran hurler is also battle-tested in the postseason.
  • Tommy Hunter, RP ($233K) — If it’s reasonably likely that both Cishek and Romo would be claimed, it’s a certainty that Hunter would (if he hasn’t already). But there’s leverage to work with given Hunter’s outstanding season. The veteran has set himself up nicely for a return to the open market after 46 innings of 2.35 ERA ball, with 9.8 K/9 and 2.2 BB/9 on the back of a 97 mph heater. Brad Boxberger is perhaps also a marginally plausible candidate, but we won’t consider him separately here with two more seasons of affordable arb control remaining.
  • Lucas Duda, 1B ($1.2MM) — Though he has been in a cold spell of late, Duda owns a 127 OPS+ during his 24 games with Tampa Bay, which actually just tops his overall performance earlier this year with the Mets. The Yankees were reportedly finalists for him previously, and a few other clubs might not mind adding a big left-handed bat.
  • Logan Morrison, 1B ($417K) — Speaking of big lefty bats, Morrison could hold yet more appeal with his lesser salary. He, too, has cooled but sports a .240/.347/.496 slash on the year with 29 home runs. While it’s reasonable to anticipate he’d be claimed, as with some other players, the Rays could potentially still extract a return and simply hold onto him if nothing much is offered.
  • Adeiny Hechavarria, SS ($725K) — Hech doesn’t seem particularly likely to be dealt. He has struggled at the plate since coming to the Rays, the market hasn’t yet found a home for a better player in Zack Cozart, and Tampa Bay could intend to tender him arbitration this fall. Still, he’s at least worthy of mention.
  • Brad Miller, INF ($595K) — It has been quite a disappointing season for Miller, as he has fallen off of the twenty-home-run output he showed in each of the past two seasons and owns a miserly .187 batting average. But he has suddenly blossomed into one of the game’s most patient hitters, with a 17.5% walk rate, and could be an interesting buy-low candidate for some organizations. With two more years of arb control left to go, Tampa Bay would likely only be looking to make a move if they are preparing to move on from Miller anyway or unexpectedly draw a big offer for his services.
  • Wilson Ramos, C ($667K) — As with Hechavarria, Ramos would likely clear waivers — particularly with incentives boosting his deal and $8.5MM still owed for 2018. The 30-year-old is still working out the kinks since returning from knee surgery, with a .258/.294/.406 slash through 139 plate appearances, but still comes with quite a bit of upside.
  • Peter Bourjos, OF ($225K) — There’s little chance that Bourjos will be a hotly pursued commodity, as he’s hitting just .229/.275/.403 on the year — with that surprising bump in pop offset by a failure to reach base that’s driven by poor plate discipline (5.2% walk rate, 27.3% strikeout rate). But he could function as an extra outfielder and pinch runner for another organization.
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  1. Zach725

    8 years ago

    Cobb is the one I see them really trying to move. There will be a lot of interest in him in the FA market, the rays wouldn’t be guaranteed to even come close to re-signing him. Team like the braves, maybe Mets, etc. Will be going after him.

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    • docmilo5

      8 years ago

      I had Cobb ticketed to be traded all year. If the team can get anything for him, that’s better than nothing. The Rays have plenty of arms. Andriese went 4+ in his last rehab start and Faria should be back in a week or so. The Rays can afford to move Cobb or Odorizzi and really not affect their push for a WC spot one bit.

      Next year Honeywell is more MLB ready than this year. He should get to 150 innings this year and be ready to go 180 next and can do that at the MLB level.

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  2. xscalabr

    8 years ago

    I feel as though the Rays are a juggernaut in the making, just look at their farm system and their ability to find guys who will perform for cheap

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    • aloliver16

      8 years ago

      Historically, the Rays are still a losing franchise, with just six winning seasons, and 13 losing campaigns entering this season. And it doesn’t matter whether or not the farm system helps the parent club, because the Tampa Bay area isn’t supporting the team. Winning is irrelevant when the franchise is yet again last in attendance.

      So from a ownership perspective, selling makes more sense than buying. With little progress towards a new stadium, and the clock ticking down, why should Rays ownership break their backs trying to build a winner, when the market isn’t responding? MLB will help relocate this franchise, and the Tropiciana Field lease agreement isn’t ironclad.

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      • Solaris611

        8 years ago

        Very true. The Rays could be perennial division champs, and they still wouldn’t draw a crowd. Put this organization in a viable market like Montreal, and they’d flourish. The only mystery with this franchise is why are they still in Tampa?

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        • aff10

          8 years ago

          Even if that is the case, the organization still has a duty to try to win (although arguably not this season, given their place in the standings). Ownership may not significantly boost payroll, but it’s not as if the front office or players are cool with accepting losing, so I don’t see how their having a top farm system and capable MLB roster is rendered irrelevant by poor attendance figures

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        • xscalabr

          8 years ago

          Winning cures everything, and they are in a terrible location for a team, isolated from DT Tampa

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Montreal is so far from being a viable market it’s ridiculous…

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  3. mehcky

    8 years ago

    Since they became the Rays (and the current ownership group) they have had a wining record 6 of the 10 seasons. Ownership while modestly, has upped payroll when the team seems in contention including this year at the trade deadline. As far as relocation goes, latest updates are its down to 2 sites in Tampa.

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  4. ducksnort69

    8 years ago

    I don’t think Ramos would clear waivers. I’m guessing they would not let him go either. They were counting on next year more. Anything he gave this year was kind of bonus.

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  5. cwsOverhaul

    8 years ago

    They can also talk to Astros again about Archer if Houston considers his more attractive team control worthy of parting with prospects like Tucker, etc that they didn’t with Q and Gray. Long shot, but would be adrenaline push for the postseason.

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    • aff10

      8 years ago

      No chance he falls to Houston on waivers. He’d almost certainly get claimed by the White Sox, but they won’t part with real trade assets to acquire him right now, so Archer stays

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      • cwsOverhaul

        8 years ago

        Realized that major detail right after that basically any team would put in a claim on Archer. Thanks. Too caught in july deadline mode.

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    • Kayrall

      8 years ago

      I’m not a believer that Archer gets traded before summer 2020 at the earliest assuming his health status does not drastically change. A team looking to contend needs at least one top of the rotation pitcher. The Rays absolutely need players to come at a cheap price. The Rays are contending and Archer is a cheap Ace. They most certainly will cash him in eventually, but have zero reason to do so in the foreseeable future unless something absurd blows them away.

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  6. kc38

    8 years ago

    This whole comment forum obviously knows nothing about the Rays and the team. There is no chance they sell not even 1% Cobb isn’t going anywhere. This team has the raw talent to beat any team in front of them in the wild card race and we are only 4 back. We made up 8 games in one month 6 years ago. This group isn’t gonna give up. The injuries have gotten to us lately but no way the ace and bulldog on this staff goes anywhere. Aka Cobb. No way this team sells

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    • shelteredsoxfan

      8 years ago

      Who cares what happened 6 years ago? The team doesn’t even resemble the one from then except for longoria

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      “We”…what position do you play?

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      • rays3269

        8 years ago

        Fans from every team refer to the teams that they root for as “we”. Fans pay for jerseys, tickets, memorabilia, etc. that help finance the team. If out of everything that he said that’s the only thing you could find to comment on then why even comment at all.

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        • geejohnny

          8 years ago

          Thanks…..I was going to say the same thing. Of course “we” don’t own or play for any team….but they’re “ours” to any serious fan.

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    • therealryan

      8 years ago

      Cobb isn’t the ace of the Rays staff. You have to be able to pitch more than 166 innings at some point in 6 years if you want to call someone an ace. Cobb is a good pitcher who can’t stay on the field. It’s unfortunate for the Rays, but that is the way it happens sometime. Lucky for them Archer is a workhorse and eats up innings.

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  7. Gomez Toth

    8 years ago

    Procedural question: If a player (e.g., Duda) has already passed through waivers with his former team, does he once again need to pass through waivers with his new team prior to being traded again?

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    • bradthebluefish

      8 years ago

      Great question! Yes, Duda would have to go through waivers again.

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      • nymetsking

        8 years ago

        correct, although this would only be Duda’s first pass through waivers. He was traded to TB before the waiver deadline

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  8. donniebaseball

    8 years ago

    Tampa is only 3 games back of the wildcard. Sure, they have to leap 4 teams, but a couple of good weeks and they are right back in the thick of it.

    Tampa would really have to drop off in order to sell, but there’s no way they are getting archer through waivers (why would they even trade him).

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  9. sidewinder11

    8 years ago

    I’d like to see the DBacks add a guy like Cishek to the bullpen. Shouldn’t cost too much if they’re willing to eat his salary. Their bullpen has struggled recently other than Archie Bradley.

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