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Red Sox Could Face Punishment For Illegal Use Of Electronics To Steal Signs

By Steve Adams | September 5, 2017 at 5:00pm CDT

5:00pm: Drellich tweets that Manfred has stated there’s no specific rule against sign-stealing. The punishment the Red Sox could face would be from illegal usage of technology in the dugout.

4:45pm: Evan Drellich of CSN New England tweets that Dombrowski said there is indeed an investigation looking into the Yankees. Newsday’s David Lennon tweets that when asked about the Red Sox’ allegations regarding YES cameras, Yankees skipper Joe Girardi replied bluntly: “No chance. We’re not doing it.” Girardi did acknowledge that all teams try to steal signs to some extent, though without going so far as to use technology to do so (Twitter link via Lennon).

4:30pm: USA Today’s Bob Nightengale writes that a league official confirmed Schmidt’s report to him and added that the league is preparing discipline against the Red Sox. The stealing of signs by a runner on second base (and relaying the upcoming pitch to the hitter) is not forbidden “so long as artificial means are not used,” per Nightengale. While MLB has allowed the presence of iPads in the dugout and bullpen, those league-issued devices don’t have Internet access and cannot stream live video.

Yankees left fielder Brett Gardner briefly addressed the issue today when speaking to reporters (Twitter link via MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch), telling the media: “It’s always been a game within a game, but the use of electronics takes it too far.”

4:14pm: In one of the more eyebrow-raising stories of the season, Michael S. Schmidt of the New York Times reports that MLB investigators have determined that the Red Sox used an Apple Watch and other technology to steal signs from the Yankees earlier this season. Furthermore, the Red Sox also filed their own complaint against the Yankees today, alleging that they use a YES Network camera for the exclusive purpose of stealing signs during games.

The Yankees filed a complaint about two weeks ago, according to Schmidt, providing the Commissioner’s Office with video that depicted a member of the Boston training staff receiving intel from his Apple Watch and relaying it to players on the field. More damning is the fact that Schmidt reports that the league has already confronted the Red Sox on the matter, and the team has conceded that their training staff did indeed receive information from video replay personnel, which was then relayed to players. The process had been in place for “at least several weeks,” per Schmidt.

The Red Sox reportedly told the league that president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski and manager John Farrell were not involved in the implementation of this process and weren’t even aware of the sign-stealing operation at all. Investigators have already interviewed the Red Sox’ training staff as well as outfielder Chris Young. Schmidt’s report also mentions that Brock Holt and Dustin Pedroia were seen on video receiving info from assistant athletic trainer Jon Jochim.

Asked about the story, Farrell told reporters that the Red Sox are “aware of the rule (that) electronic devices are not to be used in the dugout,” but said that it’s a league matter and offered no further comment (link via ESPN’s Scott Lauber).

It’s not clear what actions that commissioner Rob Manfred will take against the Red Sox, nor is there any word of whether an investigation of the Yankees will be launched based on Boston’s reported allegations. Manfred has previously stripped the Cardinals of multiple draft picks as punishment for illegally accessing the Astros’ proprietary databases, though certainly that was a different scenario and is not a direct comparison to the Red Sox/Yankees situation.

Manfred is at Fenway Park tonight and will meet with the media at 5:45pm ET, per Lauber, so there could very well be further details made available in the near future. In the meantime, I’d highly encourage those interested in the matter to read Schmidt’s column in full.

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  1. partyatnapolis

    8 years ago

    lol pathetic

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  2. mvpetro

    8 years ago

    Ha losers

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  3. bballblk

    8 years ago

    What?

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  4. jdgoat

    8 years ago

    Demote them to AA!

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      On a serious note though sign stealing isn’t a big deal in itself. Literally every team does it. Using technology to do it though is bush league and they deserve a fine.

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      • Drewnasty

        8 years ago

        Probably losing a draft pick as well.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          I’d say probably just a fine

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        • User 4245925809

          8 years ago

          Nonsense. Every team know Toronto has been doing it at home for years. Farrell can’t admit it now, but it would be curious if a full blown investigation was to come out on use of cameras.

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        • RichW 2

          8 years ago

          LOL the man in white fantasy never goes away.

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        • padresfan

          8 years ago

          Every team does it change your signs
          That being said if they had some dude using binnos in the outfield then a fine should be used

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        • outinleftfield

          8 years ago

          Every team has cameras on the plate and mound at all times. They record every at bat of every batter and pitcher from multiple angles. This is stupid to even talk about. Considering the source of the complaint is the worst offender, it is ironic. The Yankees do not want MLB digging into their game day practices.

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        • thekid9

          8 years ago

          A draft pick? Are we making things up now?

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          Best part was pedroia’s rationalization:

          “I can’t help the team with my worn out knee so I will help cheat. Hey it’s no big deal. If Brady can get away with it people will cut me slack. ”

          Until the next time a runner is barreling into 2nd and he pivots his way into the DL again.

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        • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

          8 years ago

          You are such a troll go away.

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      • notagain27

        8 years ago

        Yankees have been using their YES network to steal sign sequences from Opponents Catcher’s for several years. MLB teams complained to Commissioner’s Office that YES Centerfield cameras never showed the Yankee catcher while he gave his signs to the pitcher, but quite the opposite when the opposing team’s catcher was going through his signs. These days, during home games, teams have a person assigned to a remote camera focused on the benches and 3B coach trying to steal offensive signs from the coaching staff. Base Coaches moving with Catcher’s movement is another “no no” that sometimes gets over looked.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          notagain27 = DD in disguise.

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        • Meow Meow

          8 years ago

          Can’t be. He didn’t trade a prospect at any point during that comment.

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        • coachrsj

          8 years ago

          You don’t watch tanker games they are are right in there you can see the finger posada had the white or orange nails and Sanchez you can see it all the time. You must be a bosox fan

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          8 years ago

          It’s a story if a team makes a complaint, the league looks to penalize and the Sox are fined. It may not be relevant to you but it makes it no less newsworthy.

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          He’s a joke as well. Look at his masterpiece left behind in Detroit. It turned into a fire sale of old bloated contracts.

          And he didn’t know anything about this? Sure.

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  5. Giantsfan775

    8 years ago

    Sign stealing has been around since the beginning. It has, and will continue to evolve with technology. Non-story.

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    • Drewnasty

      8 years ago

      Stealing signs in game because the catcher doesn’t do a good job of covering them is gamesmenship but using electronic devices is cheating. Get your head out of your rectal area.

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      • realgone2

        8 years ago

        Exactly Drew.

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      • Giantsfan775

        8 years ago

        Do you really think that Boston is the only team using advanced technology to do this?? They just got caught, that’s it. This is completely different than the STL-HOU situation. The Red Sox will probably reprimand — maybe even fire the employee(s) involved to attempt to save face.

        But look in the NFL where it is more widely known, Spygate etc. Teams in all major sports do this to varying degrees. When there is such an enormous amount of money involved, organizations will do everything they can to gain an advantage. If you think this is the first time this has happened, you are very naive.

        And since when has cheating not been around in baseball?? Sign stealing, spit balls, foreign substances, pine tar, corked bats, PED use etc. The list goes on and on. This is as ridiculous to me as the people who say that Bonds and Clemens shouldn’t be in the Hall because of steroids. Sure they used, but nobody –including you, knows EVERYONE who used. They are the scapegoats of an era, and steroids or not they both should be in the Hall.

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        • Cam

          8 years ago

          Gone off on an absolute tangent buddy! Dial it back big guy, use your breathing exercises.

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        • Cam

          8 years ago

          He/she hasn’t said anything at all about no other orgs doing it. They made a comment about severity, and you started waffling about them being naive if they think it’s the first time blah blah. You’ve made something out of absolutely nothing.

          I’m suggesting you dial it back so you don’t continue to come across as a compulsive nutter.

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        • Giantsfan775

          8 years ago

          Breathing exercises huh?? That’s clever. Boston is a marquee franchise, as is New York. Manfred himself stated that stealing signs is part of the game. The use of mobile technology in the dugout is not.

          What do you want to bet that all Boston sees out of this is a fine?? And by the way, since you know so much about this, precisely what did Boston gain from employing this tactic for the last few weeks?? Not sure are you?? Neither is anyone else.

          So what really is MLB going to do with this?? Are they going to follow suit and take Goodell’s path…Unlikely. Fine the organization, maybe sanction them on the international free agent pool?? Nothing significant comes of this, just wait and see lol.

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        • Giantsfan775

          8 years ago

          No, you are missing the point of my post/reading incorrectly. My point is, is it’s not just exclusive to MLB. It is across all major sports.

          And yes, if you don’t believe that then you are naïve. Is that offensive to you bro?? Lol

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          Boston is not a marquee franchise. You are getting carried away. Even this recent run is littered with several LAST PLACE finishes.

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        • Kayrall

          8 years ago

          I’m all for putting the Red Sox on the same level with the rest of the league, but claiming they are not a marquee franchise is ignorant and short sighted. They are one of the true darling teams of baseball. ESPN’s baseball ‘skits’ when there is nothing to say about NFL, college sports, NBA, or Colin Kaepernick are almost exclusively about either the Yankees or Red Sox.

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        • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

          8 years ago

          Don’t feed the troll

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        • PeterDipersio

          8 years ago

          Umm at least we produce from within the organization instead of buying a ring every once in awhile

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    • noraj9

      8 years ago

      Yeah nice non-story that everyone is talking about.

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      • Giantsfan775

        8 years ago

        Completely different than STL-HOU, see my above reply.

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    • dimitriinla

      8 years ago

      You can say it’s a nonstory — but right now it’s a bombshell.

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      • Giantsfan775

        8 years ago

        Today it is sure, but what about next week?? See my above reply.

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  6. tharrie0820

    8 years ago

    When did belichick start consulting with the red Sox?

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      8 years ago

      At least the Red Sox can take comfort in knowing that New England fans will surely either deny the cheating or defend it.

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    • dimitriinla

      8 years ago

      Exactly my thought. Boston sports look pretty crappy— at least morally.

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    • Giantsfan775

      8 years ago

      Well played.

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  7. a1544

    8 years ago

    Lol didn’t work though

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  8. angelsfan4life

    8 years ago

    A team from Boston caught stealing signs. Well then again players from the Roid Sox never do actually get into trouble.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Good one..best yet.

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  9. Kayrall

    8 years ago

    Seeing that the two teams are the Yankees and Red Sox, most likely no ramifications will occur.

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  10. saavedra

    8 years ago

    Irony that the red sox were complaining that they were wronged by the padres for not sharing medical info when there were no standards, but i guess using technology to steal signs is ok.

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    • Kotalov16

      8 years ago

      Those two offenses have literally nothing to do with each other…and I don’t really see how sign stealing is in any way comparable to withholding medical info. One is far worse than the other.

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      • liamsfg

        8 years ago

        Its an example of moral principle. Now all of a sudden I could care less about the Red Sox complaints about other teams wrongdoings.

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        • saavedra

          8 years ago

          this ^^

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    • DigirolamoDan6194

      8 years ago

      There is actually a rule that a team has to put injury updates into a database available for all teams to look at. The rule states anything from taking Tylenol to a surgery must be written in this database. Padres were using 2 different databases. One for just the team and one that every team has to use.

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      • saavedra

        8 years ago

        Can you send me a link to where that rule is explained in detail and also I assume that it was implemented before July 2016.

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  11. Dynasty

    8 years ago

    Yankee fan here. I don’t plan to ever let this one go. Ammunition forever.

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    • yankees_fan74

      8 years ago

      Lol agreed.

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    • greatdaysport

      8 years ago

      You just have a cheap shot catcher who hits players when they’re down. I think Sanchez is a bigger affront to the game than the Red Sox. And I hate the Red Sox.

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      • Dynasty

        8 years ago

        Nice joke post. You’re a funny guy.

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    • qbass187

      8 years ago

      I hope you enjoy getting it back 10 fold after what’s come out over the last 24 hrs about what the Yankees have been doing!!!

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      • Dynasty

        8 years ago

        I’m waiting for this breaking news. Tick tock tick tock.

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    • PeterDipersio

      8 years ago

      I have ammo too Jason Giambi, Alex Rodriguez all steroid poppers

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  12. jcirig21

    8 years ago

    Stealing signs and they still couldn’t win…

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    • charlie15

      8 years ago

      True that

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    • MB923

      8 years ago

      This was back in Boston a couple of weeks ago when the Sox took 2 of 3. Not this past weekend jn NY.

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  13. thegreatcerealfamine

    8 years ago

    must be the drinking water in Boston that makes their athletes cheat so much..

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  14. charlie15

    8 years ago

    Red Sox and patriots the “New England teams” are found cheating once again

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  15. ronnsnow

    8 years ago

    If teams are allowed to view a replay before challenging a call, what’s the big deal here?

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    • Drewnasty

      8 years ago

      What part of using electronic devices to gain an unfair advantage on the playing field do you not get?

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      • Connorsoxfan

        8 years ago

        Yeah but the point is if they are allowed to go back and look at footage, what’s to stop teams from doing it that way?

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        • emceecee

          8 years ago

          Maybe the fundamentals of how time works. Unless you are suggesting that after the sign goes down they call the replay room and ask to review the sign, find out it was fastball and relay it to the hitter before the pitch is thrown……. Or maybe you are suggesting the use of time machines?

          The replay room is for the purpose of viewing something that has already happened, to see if the umpires call was correct or not. It’s not for knowing what pitch the pitcher is going to throw next. They are two completely unrelated things, that have no barring on one another.

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      • yankees_fan74

        8 years ago

        He’s a Red Sox fan, he still thinks that Big Papi wasn’t on steroids, give him some time

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  16. MB923

    8 years ago

    The Red Sox should start David Price in the postseason as a punishment.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      W

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Lmao that’s taking it to far. They need to at least be given a slight chance to win.

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        You don’t think they have a chance to win with 6 Future HOFers in 1 lineup??? (Betts, Bogaerts, Benintendi, JBJ, Pedroia and Devers)

        Jokes aside , I do think Pedroia will be a HOFer.

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        • Connorsoxfan

          8 years ago

          PD should be, and in all honesty probably one of the other 5 that’s not JBJ has a decent chance as well.

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        • Cuso

          8 years ago

          Based on what? Guesses? Or assumptions that a Red Sox player “should,” just because he’s on the Red Sox? How can Devers be in the have a decent chance column? Based on what?!?

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        • gomerhodge71

          8 years ago

          Yeah, like Yankee fans who think Posada and Bernie Williams should have been shoo-ins.

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        • natesp4

          8 years ago

          You’re in the comments section of a site for fans. People are allowed to guess which of their favorite players might make the HoF someday. Relax

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Posada and Bernie were at least borderline HOFers. I’d gladly take that level of production from any prospects.

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    • Otto371

      8 years ago

      Thats too harsh.

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    • Meow Meow

      8 years ago

      Come on now, the fans don’t deserve that level of punishment

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    • reflect

      8 years ago

      Lmao I wish the mobile app let you upvote things.

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    • Nobby

      8 years ago

      I say give them Price as compensation.

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      • CardsNation5

        8 years ago

        I’m glad that he passed on signing with the Cardinals.

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  17. Yamsi12

    8 years ago

    Lifetime ban for all involved.

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  18. kimball0401

    8 years ago

    And they still lost the season series

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  19. qbass187

    8 years ago

    Haha! Sore loser Yankees whining about stuff that’s been going on for 100 years!

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    • Drewnasty

      8 years ago

      They had apple watches 100 years ago?

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      • Trevor 3

        8 years ago

        Priceless!

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        I guess they must have used sun dials..

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      • yankees_fan74

        8 years ago

        Drew nasty on fungi

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        • yankees_fan74

          8 years ago

          Sorry fuego lol

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      • lesterdnightfly

        8 years ago

        Sure. We had an Apple Watch back in Ohio in 1917. Great-grandpa made grandpa watch for when it was time to pick the apples.

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      When were Apple watches invented?

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      • Trevor 3

        8 years ago

        Galileo invented the Apple Watch.

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    • YanksDynasty

      8 years ago

      TV technology has been around for 100 years? Lol

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    • Kayrall

      8 years ago

      You sure set yourself up for a LOT of replies.

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    • dust44

      8 years ago

      I did purchase a Apple Watch about 100 years ago. It still works pretty well.

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    • liamsfg

      8 years ago

      Someone didn’t read past the header.

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  20. TradeAcuna

    8 years ago

    Sox probably called the Cards and Jays for advice how to steal signs!

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    • Polish Hammer

      8 years ago

      Cards just hack into your scouting database.

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    • Paul Miller

      8 years ago

      The Jays? For that reporter that said a “Man in White” was stealing signs by sitting in the outfield seats? What was he, an owl to see from that far?
      One reporter states this and nothing came about it, yet the Cards were caught,and you put those two teams in the same boat! Hilarious.

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  21. hiflew

    8 years ago

    Once again the Yankees and Red Sox hate each other so much that they don’t realize that they are exactly the same in the eyes of the fans of every other team in the league.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Winning tends to do that..

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      • hiflew

        8 years ago

        Being big spending bullies tends to do that as well.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Mom those big bullies are spending and winning again..

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        • Cuso

          8 years ago

          Note to self: spending money to win makes you a bully.

          Note to self: every other team doesn’t spend money to win.

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      • Eat'EmUpTigers

        8 years ago

        You spelled whining wrong

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  22. tommyl

    8 years ago

    “The Red Sox reportedly told the league that president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski and manager John Farrell were not involved in the implementation of this process and weren’t even aware of the sign-stealing operation at all.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

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    • yankees_fan74

      8 years ago

      I was thinking the same thing they admitted to doing it but yet the manager had no clue. It really is hilarious

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    • Adam 17

      8 years ago

      I completely buy their story. I’m sure every team has the assistant trainer sending signs in to the players; which results in them doing something different at times from what the manager signaled in; so I’m sure the manager thought nothing of it! When it comes to in game strategy clearly the assistant trainer out ranks the manager, bench coach, etc.

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  23. 22222pete

    8 years ago

    Chris Young. Embedded Yankee. Applegate has really helped him-not. Heck, almost every Red Six hitter is worse than last year

    Looking at Yankee H-A splits, its clear they are getting some help at home beyond the park. Even Judge has twice as many HR at home

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      How does this if even true make this ok? Oh yea it doesn’t!

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    • liamsfg

      8 years ago

      Calling anything-gate is disrespectful to the magnitude of the political scandal its referring to… we use it to name sports scandals, disgusting.

      Besides, Applegate is a brand of lunch meat.

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      • yankees_fan74

        8 years ago

        There is also Christina Applegate

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  24. mike156

    8 years ago

    Love the denials and the what-abouts. I’m sorry, but this reminds me of Frankie Pentageli’s Senate hearing in Godfather II. “Corleone Family, I don’t know nothin’ about it.”

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    • retire21

      8 years ago

      An apology Senator!

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      • cbf82

        8 years ago

        Esta pusto. Esta pusto.

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      • mike156

        8 years ago

        We have the affidavit….we have it.

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  25. tyronbiggums

    8 years ago

    Time to fire Farrell

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  26. philsark94

    8 years ago

    Lol Red Sox are so desperate in this massive down spiral that this is what they’ve resorted to. Can’t help but shake my head.

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  27. SundownDevil

    8 years ago

    I feel bad for Red Sox fans. Now and in the future, every win will be tainted by cheating (stealing signs and steroids).

    Yanks fans aren’t perfect, but it’s going to be tough being a Red Sox fan now…at least publicly.

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    • SundownDevil

      8 years ago

      On top of that, being involved in this will hurt Pedroia’s chance at the HOF.

      Thanks to MLBTR for helping expose the truth rather than hiding this story like some sites will.

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      • majorflaw

        8 years ago

        “Thanks to MLBTR for helping expose the truth . . .”

        Um, the story is on the front page of The NY Times. Hidden in plain sight, I guess.

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        • SundownDevil

          8 years ago

          NYT has that “fake news” reputation, deserved or not. Some people need to see it on a site like this to give it wheels. This will likely impact the postseason as well; curious to see if the Red Sox will have wins removed or at least disqualifying them from postseason play, if it makes a difference in the division and/or WC spots. Probably not, but this will be an astronomical punishment.

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        • majorflaw

          8 years ago

          Um….(Part Two)

          Can you come up with a single instance where a MLB team had wins taken away or was disqualified from postseason play? Right, not happening here either. A large fine, of course, and loss of a 1st or 2nd round draft pick is what I’d expect.

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        • stymeedone

          8 years ago

          Absolutely!! If you see it on the web, it must be true!

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    • qbass187

      8 years ago

      Lol! Sure it will. Just like all the piles of roids being passed around in the Bronx hurting Jeter & Rivera’s chances? Nice try

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Do you sleep under power lines near a nuclear power plant?

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    • mike156

      8 years ago

      Looks like Red Sox fans are doing fine in the standings. And they have a tendency to dominate here as well, so be prepared to duck,.

      Reply
  28. realgone2

    8 years ago

    Jeez, what’s with New England teams and cheating?

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  29. TheBoatmen

    8 years ago

    Unfortunately they were stealing signals from the Astro’s. Damn acme watch.

    1
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  30. Caseys Partner

    8 years ago

    Apple is one of the sponsors of MLB. They gear their site to Apple products.

    Now if the Sox had used a Samsung watch…..

    4
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  31. Caseys Partner

    8 years ago

    Hire an ex-FBI agent to wire up the players and have a central control up in a private box with the guy dressed like a customer.

    Reply
  32. Bald Vinny

    8 years ago

    Upon hearing this, Torre postponed Sanchez’s suspension hearing until 2019.

    4
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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Upon hearing this Rob Manfred actually acknowledged David Ortiz used steroids!

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    • MB923

      8 years ago

      Sanchez is already serving his suspension. Nice try

      7
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      • stymeedone

        8 years ago

        Sure, after delaying the hearing until after they played the Red Sox.

        Reply
        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Likely would have beat the Sox anyway.

          Reply
  33. leprechaun

    8 years ago

    Cheating is just another avenue in trying to win. It’s another word for competitor.
    Look if your not at least trying to steal a sign then your a idiot.

    2
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    • lesterdnightfly

      8 years ago

      “Your a idiot” voids any credibility you seek.

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  34. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    The Red Sox are “savvy”.

    Reply
  35. outinleftfield

    8 years ago

    OMG. Much Ado About NOTHING. Every team steals signs and most use their TV cameras to do it.

    3
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    • yankees_fan74

      8 years ago

      What part of “can’t use electronic devices in the dugout” don’t you understand? Let me know which word you are stuck on and I will clarify it for you.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Don’t bother..his username says it all.

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        • outinleftfield

          8 years ago

          Says the Yankees fan. Have you read the NYT report about this today? The Red Sox submitted video of a Yankees employee setting down a cellphone in the hallway to the dugout before relaying information prior to each at bat over 2 games. That is why this is still under investigation.
          The fact is every team does some variation of this type of cheating.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Link? I found multiple NY Times articles and all state the Red Sox claim the Yankees used a camera on YES Network. Haven’t found one that mentions what you said. (Not saying you’re wrong. Just saying I can’t find it anywhere).

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      • outinleftfield

        8 years ago

        What part of cheating is cheating do you not understand. The Yankees have used cameras in CF to steal signals for years and then sent that info to the dugout. So what if it’s to a guy standing in the hallway next to the dugout who leaves his cell phone in the hallway before he walks out and tells the players or a guy standing in the dugout with his apple watch on? What difference does it make HOW you cheat?

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          “The Yankees have used cameras in CF to steal signals for years”

          Haha. And you know this how?? Every single ballpark has cameras in CF.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Quit while you can..redact-redact-redact.

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  36. rmullig2

    8 years ago

    This explains 2004.

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  37. dvmwitt

    8 years ago

    Ha! Cheaters! This is ridiculous. The whole front office should be suspended and/or banned.

    Love,

    A Padres fan

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  38. chevyheston

    8 years ago

    As a Red Sox fan, I wish they would use technology to show this to the hitters instead: youtube.com/watch?v=bw2sVLguitU
    It’s painful to watch this team (not) hit.

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  39. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    8 years ago

    The punishment the Red Sox could face would be from illegal usage of technology in the dugout

    Is this like illegal formation in football?

    I am not sure why the Red Sox stooped this low, they are a very talented team, so why do this?

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  40. takeyourbase

    8 years ago

    Farrell admits he has no idea what his players are doing? Yeah right. Not a chance.

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  41. Damakibe

    8 years ago

    Make them take Panda back.

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    • aceofrainbows

      8 years ago

      YES YES YES YES YES YES

      – All Giants fans

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  42. mike156

    8 years ago

    To tell you how much MLB cares about the Red Sox doing this, MLB.com doesn’t have anything on it as of 719. They do have a lovely article about Red Sox working for charity.

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    • outinleftfield

      8 years ago

      It is still under investigation. According to the NYT, the Red Sox sent video of a Yankees employee setting down a cell phone just before walking into the dugout and relaying information to the players before at bats during several games. The question is do the Yankees get away with it because a former Yankee is the guy handing out the penalties or not.

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        An MLB.com article is finally out and it doesn’t say this anywhere. All it mentions regarding the Yankees is what it says here.

        I’m not sure where you are getting this info from about a Yankee employee with a cell phone.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Posting it multiple times doesn’t prove your point…

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        • qbass187

          8 years ago

          There also pictures of Yankee players watching live game feeds on an iPad in the dugout that have been released

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  43. Aaron Sapoznik

    8 years ago

    White Sox fans might recall how irate Chris Sale became when he alleged the Tigers were similarly stealing signs electronically and relaying them to their hitters a couple of seasons ago. I wonder what the reaction is now of the new Red Sox ace when those indiscretions might have been used to benefit him while he was on the mound in Fenway Park.

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  44. jd396

    8 years ago

    They should just ban electronics outside the clubhouse. It’s impossible to regulate who’s doing what with the iPads and such in the dugout. I’ve even seen players with their phones in their pockets on the field.

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    • outinleftfield

      8 years ago

      The problem is that the Yankees were getting the information in the clubhouse hallway and relaying that information to player after setting down the cellphone in the hallway according to the NYT. The only way I see to stop it is a guard hired by MLB in each hallway from clubhouse to dugout.
      The fact is every team cheats. They all use electronic methods to relay the info to someone in or near the dugout.

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      • jd396

        8 years ago

        It wouldn’t take much to prevent this kind of stuff if the league was serious about it.

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  45. basquiat

    8 years ago

    If it’s good enough for the Patriots…………

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  46. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    8 years ago

    Are these the same Boston Red Sox that loudly whined about Drew Pomeranz’s medical records even though he has not missed a start for them and the prospect they traded for him recently had Tommy John surgery?

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    • dvmwitt

      8 years ago

      That’s different. That was AJ Preller, the diablo of baseball

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        8 years ago

        So you are saying it’s okay for the Red Sox to break the rules but not the Padres?

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      • dvmwitt

        8 years ago

        No, I was kidding. I’m on your side. Just saying everyone thinks its different cuz they hate Preller. I find it funny that Sox fans will say this is ok

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    • Houston We Have A Solution

      8 years ago

      The same red sox who were caught breaking IFA signing rules.

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      • dvmwitt

        8 years ago

        Yeah, those bastages. Karma is a female dog

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  47. lesterdnightfly

    8 years ago

    I guess every Red Sox-Yankees box score from now on will have a line for “Caught Stealing”.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      8 years ago

      Underrated comment

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  48. BaltimOrioles2016

    8 years ago

    bruh it’s something with boston sports teams stealing signs

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    • PeterDipersio

      8 years ago

      And it’s something with New York thugs stealing cars and wallets

      Reply
      • MB923

        8 years ago

        Wut? Lol

        From DMV’s own web page,

        According to the NICB, 2016’s top spots for vehicle theft are:
        Albuquerque, NM
        Pueblo, CO
        Bakersfield, CA
        Modesto, CA
        Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA
        Anchorage, AK
        Merced, CA
        San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA
        Fresno, Ca
        Billings, MT

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        vey informed response beavis..

        Reply
  49. Mr Pike

    8 years ago

    Check the Indians

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    • Polish Hammer

      8 years ago

      Definitely, without stealing signs they’d be in last place…SMH

      Reply
  50. Nobby

    8 years ago

    The NY Giants did it in 51. Fact.

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  51. Nnnjjjjjhhjj

    8 years ago

    A team in Boston using a camera to cheat…..

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    • saavedra

      8 years ago

      Please, we need a DD press conference where he states “We misinterpreted the rules”. That would make my year.

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    • PeterDipersio

      8 years ago

      A team in New York taking steroids to cheat!

      Reply
      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Don’t offend Mets fans pal!

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  52. Houston We Have A Solution

    8 years ago

    Repeat offenders.

    1st it was the signing violation and now this.

    Fine and forced to give up a prospect to teams they cheated by stealing signals this way.

    Punishment for being repeat offenders.

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  53. kiddhoff

    8 years ago

    We’re talking about the Red Sox and Yankees, so you know the league isnt going to do much to either (chosen ones) team. Possibly a small fine for each player involved. Or maybe a 3 day weekend off for the mgr.

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  54. GoldenJabs

    8 years ago

    * FAKE NEWS * FAKE NEWS *

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  55. SD Speak For Myself

    8 years ago

    High and mighty smelly Sox pound the Padres because Pom was taking Tylenol and it wasn’t on the chart….and now the holy rollers caught doing this! Boston GM should be suspended same length as Padres GM.

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    • GoldenJabs

      8 years ago

      I’d rather they suspend Farrell. He absolutely sucks !

      Reply
  56. mike156

    8 years ago

    I sure hope there isn’t any punishment. Hearing Red Sox fans claim victimization for the next few years isn’t worth whatever puny thing Manfred would be willing to hand out.

    Reply
  57. therealbdavis

    8 years ago

    Ok seriously with the sign stealing thing. Good ball players steal signs. It’s part of the game. Them needing tech to help is pathetic and lazy. And since everyone in the league now knows that their signs are stolen…wait for it…wait for it… change your signs…gasssp mind blown. Seriously not a new concept.

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    • qbass187

      8 years ago

      The tech part is old too. Just google it. It’s in every dugout in the league. Apple watches as far as the eye can see.
      This is nothing more than the sore loser Yankees trying to save face. In the process they’re opening themselves up to being busted on the shady stuff they have been doing for years. Just wait for that to come out.

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        The only sore loser is You, defending your beloved innocent Red Sox.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Recess is over back inside.

        Reply
  58. GOP Lizards

    8 years ago

    WTF is wrong with the state of MA? It’s pervasive.

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    • PeterDipersio

      8 years ago

      There is a reason they put Harvard University in Cambridge Mass because if they were to put Harvard in New York, nobody would qualify to go there

      Reply
      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        reread your post..think about it…think about it..

        Reply
  59. Ezra77

    8 years ago

    This is gonna be just like with the patriots every team does it but they just happen to have gotten caught

    Reply
  60. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    8 years ago

    Was the baseball properly inflated?

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  61. Chun

    8 years ago

    Girl sox, patriots, they should be banned for LIFE!!

    Reply
    • PeterDipersio

      8 years ago

      The jets knicks nets and giants should all be banned for being idiots!

      Reply
      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        On a roll now..reread it..read it again..wait for it..almost there now..

        Reply
  62. PeterDipersio

    8 years ago

    Yankee fans are just upset because they don’t want to see Mike Stanton in a Red Sox uniform next season!

    Reply
    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      How’d it work out when the Sox tried to get Arod?

      Reply
      • qbass187

        8 years ago

        Yeah!! How about that completely unrelated thing 15 years ago, huh??? What do you say about that!?!?

        Reply
      • PeterDipersio

        8 years ago

        How did it work out? I’ll tell you! We got Manny Ramirez and were down 3-0 to your Yankees in the ALCS and came back and won the series 4-3 and won the World Series twice in a span of 3 years! So not getting Arod was a blessing! How did that Arod contract work out for you guys? Lol!

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        • qbass187

          8 years ago

          Exactly!

          Reply
  63. alexmiller6677

    8 years ago

    Sox fan here.

    To condense the arguments, I see both sides. All I will say is this. Regardless of whether sign stealing is a part of the game, and regardless of my loathing for the Yankees, and additionally, regardless of my loathing of league favoritism for the Yankees (See the fact that Sanchez was allowed to play and the arbitration results withheld prior to this weekends series) it all doesn’t matter.
    This still looks bad on Sox management and shows a troubling pattern of behavior. In the past two years we have lost draft picks due to attempting to exploit loopholes everyone does, the difference here is the degree in which other teams do.
    I’m not saying don’t try to gain any advantage, but it would behoove the Sox not to be so blatantly moronic as to essentially put a neon sign saying “we are doing something questionable here” for all the world to see.

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    • qbass187

      8 years ago

      I actually disagree. I think the way they went about it was pretty stealthy.
      The way the Yankees have gone about it is pretty brazen In my opinion.
      There are pictures and footage of the Tankees using iPads in the dugout to monitor game footage of the game they’re in!!! As well as YES cameras monitoring coaches to steal signs. All this info has. One out over the last 24 hours and frankly it makes a text message in the dugout seem like child’s play!!!

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  64. redsoxrob406

    8 years ago

    What’s most funny about the complaint is it comes from a team with such high moral values the Yankees are a team that represents it self by signing ex-cons, drunks and steroid freaks, all things we want our young children to look up to and idolize – hey you can’t have long hair or facial hair, but if you can throw a baseball 100 mph or hit a homerun we will overlook the wife beating. Pin strips are fitting for the Yankees

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    • qbass187

      8 years ago

      Wife beaters, drunks, steroid freaks.
      But they’re way above texting signs in a dugout **eyeroll**
      But apparently not above illegally streaming the other teams broadcast in their dugout on their iPads. That’s according to picture evidence that was released.
      And for Yankees fans to have the audacity to run their mouths about any other franchise in the game when the Bronx is ground zero for steroids in baseball is just beyond laughable!!!

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