A new ownership group in Miami (headlined by Derek Jeter) has kicked off a fire sale. Dee Gordon is now a Mariner, Giancarlo Stanton a Yankee, and Marcell Ozuna a Cardinal, and there’s no telling whether the Marlins are done yet.
In the wake of this significant shift in direction for the organization, catcher J.T. Realmuto has reportedly requested a trade out of the city. While the team has stated that they have no intention to trade him (via Bob Nightengale of USA Today Sports), the club had similar things to say about Ozuna early this offseason before shipping him to St. Louis for a package of prospects. On that note, there’s reason to at least explore his trade value and market.
Unlike Stanton or Gordon, Realmuto has significant surplus value on his contract. He’s been worth a combined 9 WAR across the past three seasons due to his excellent defense, above-average bat and good baserunning skills. He’s projected to make just a $4.2MM salary in his first trip through the arbitration process, and comes with two additional years of team control beyond the 2018 season. The former third-round pick out of Oklahoma’s Carl Albert High School is just entering his prime; he’ll begin the 2018 season having turned just 27 years old.
Realmuto, then, doesn’t help the Marlins’ with their loudly-stated goal to shed salary. However, by taking Stanton, Gordon and Ozuna off the books, they seem to have already reduced their payroll significantly. They don’t seem to have any intention of competing for an NL East pennant this year, and it’s looking more and more like Realmuto won’t be around for the next winning Marlins club. After all, teams like the Astros, Cubs and Nationals all took longer than three years to go from teardown to contention.
So with a realistic time frame to contend in mind, it’s difficult to believe the Marlins wouldn’t move Realmuto for the right offer. The question, then, is a matter of what kind of package would tempt them enough to move their backstop. Above-average major leaguers with three arbitration years remaining typically cost a small fortune; one need not look any further than the Braves’ recent trades of Andrelton Simmons and Craig Kimbrel for evidence. It would likely take at least one “blue-chip” prospect to even get the Marlins to pick up the phone, and probably another prospect within or near the top 100 to ultimately get a deal done.
A trade partner, then, would need to have a strong farm system along with a significant need at the catcher position. That club wouldn’t necessarily need to stand out as a contender this season, but Realmuto would fit best on a team with a fairly obvious multi-year window in the near future.
The Nationals jump off the page as the most obvious trade partner for the Marlins in a hypothetical Realmuto trade. They have a great farm system, including outfielder Juan Soto, who doesn’t have an obvious path to the majors. The Nationals’ outfield is crowded, and superprospect Victor Robles is ahead of him in the pecking order. Thanks in part to a terrible season from Matt Wieters, Nats catchers ranked dead last in the majors with -1.1 fWAR. Washington would definitely benefit from the sizable upgrade Realmuto would provide them at the catcher position; in theory the team would have won about five more games last year if they’d had him instead of Wieters.
Beyond that, the Rockies and Diamondbacks are fairly good fits. Both clubs ranked in the bottom ten in WAR value from the catcher position in 2017, and neither has any promising backstops in their farm system. Additionally, both teams are obvious contenders in 2018. Either team could feasibly deal from its prospect depth in order to add Realmuto to their lineup.
The Padres may be ready to give up on Austin Hedges at this point, and while the team probably won’t win next season, they could feasibly be contenders before Realmuto hits free agency. The Twins could make a play if they’re not content with mediocre offensive production from Jason Castro. If the Brewers aren’t buying last year’s breakout from 30-year-old Manny Pina, they’d have plenty of prospect depth to get a deal done.
Although there’s no rush to trade him at the moment, there are a host of teams that would probably be willing to fork over enormous value for a catcher who ranked third in the majors in fWAR this past season. The Marlins would be wise to keep their ears open if they’re approached teams who are interested in, or desperate for, an elite backstop.
It seems to me that the best fit for Realmuto is Seattle. Mike Zunino’s stats offensively and defensively aren’t up to par and I always see and hear Mariners fans complain about him. After that I might look towards Arizona.
I fail to see how you explained how that the best fit for Realmuto is Seattle. Why would Seattle make better sense than so many other teams? What could they offer in exchange that Miami would desire over and above what other teams have to offer?
I just don’t see the Mariners as likely.
While Seattle certainly has a need for a catcher, I don’t see their farm system being strong enough to pull off a trade like this.
Don’t think so. Zunino hit .251 with a .331 OBP and 25 HRs with above average defense good for a 3.3 WAR last season. They would have to give up the remains of their farm system to replace a 3.3 WAR player. Don’t see that happening. If they considered a splashy move it would be for a SP
I could make a legitimate argument for Zunino as Seattle’s most irreplaceable position player last season.
Mike zunino hit 25 HR with an .840 OPS, and keep in mind, he had a demotion to AAA in May, and returned May 29th to dominate from then on out. What much more do you want from him offensively? Mariner fans complain about everything, man, don’t take it serious.
Not many Mariner fans, if any, complaining about Zunino anymore. Would like to see him sustain his gains in 2018.
How is Bruce Maxwell a better option than Zunino?
nobody mentioned bruce maxwell…
That swooshing sound you heard, was his joke going over your head.
How is Crabtree better than Richard Sherman????
I mean that said Realmuto would be a better option than Maxwell, but we can’t afford the return Realmuto would command, and we have a solid defensive catcher waiting in the wings in Sean Murphy.
Murphy has a chance to be special behind the plate, and if he starts the season in Double A and is able to replicate the contact ability he showed in the AFL with the power we all know he’s capable of producing we’ve got ourselves another cornerstone to join Olson and Chapman.
You obviously do not know the Seattle Mariners or their players. Saying Mike Zuninos numbers weren’t up to par is the complete opposite. It would be silly to replace him with another catcher and trade the rest of our prospects. Keeping Zunino and look for pitching.
I would argue that Zunino broke out last year and catcher is one of the least positions that they need to upgrade. Realmuto might be an upgrade but it’s debateable. Zunino is an excellent defensive catcher and broke out offensively last year.
Ok but who does Miami get in return who “fits”
This year Mike Zunino tied J.T. Realmuto for the third-highest fWAR among all catchers:
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… with Zunino posting the 3.6 fWAR in 124 games and Realmuto 3.6 fWAR in 141 games.
Zunino and Realmuto, who were born one week apart, each come with three more years of team control.
Steamer600, which assumes 450 plate appearances for each catcher, projects 2018 WAR of 2.6 for Zunino and 2.5 for Realmuto:
fangraphs.com/projections.aspx?pos=c&stats=ba…
I feel like a deal with Colorado that involves Realmuto and Bour to the Rockies in return for McMahon + more would work for both sides. Rockies need a first basemen that isn’t Ian Desmond, and a catcher (obv) and I think they have the assets to make it happen.
Rodgers and McMahon would work.
McMahon isn’t enough but adding Rogers is ridiculous how about pint and McMahon for them. that’s sad I don’t think they should get bour because there’s so many other options for first base
Thing is, one of Story or Rodgers HAS to go. Pick one.
If your getting multiple controllable years out of both Bour and Realmuto, there shouldn’t be any Rockies prospects that are untouchable imo. Rodgers plus a couple high upside lottery tickets or maybe one of their young starters would be good
Lmao rockies hang up the phone as soon as rodgers is mentioned.
Um… then I’m guessing they’d send Story packing since his ceiling is significantly lower. How much lower? It’s like competing a luxury high rise apartment to a two-flat. Sure, you can live in the two flat. But if money is the same, then you’re taking the high rise.
Brendan Rodgers and McMahon for Bour and Realmuto? That would work for Florida. I doubt Colorado would be too keen on it.
I mean, it is fair, but I think the Rockies would rather unload Story and start using Rodgers sometime in 2018 or 2019.
You are crazy if you think that would happen. Both players will each fetch a good prospect load. They won’t be packaged together, period.
Realmuto and Bour are both all stars next season
I think you just argued in my favor…
I though you meant that Rodgers and McMahon wouldn’t be packaged … I’m old
all good. I’m just a disgruntled Marlins fan anyways. Ready to start over.
i’m so sorry that you’re a marlins fan
Fair enough. I attended a ton of marlin games in the mid-00’s…sign guy, me, the marlin cheerleaders, the Manatees, and a few dozen other regulars at the stadium…attendance made the Panther games feel crowded. I was hoping an ownership change would help….too bad.
Gonna take A LOT more than that.
Pint and McMahon as the center pieces with someone like Hampson and Tyler to round out the package for Realmuto to the Rockies. Realmuto alone will net two top 100 prospects.
If the Rockies want Bour alongside Realmuto itll start with Rogers as the centerpiece and will include 1 in the 5-7 range, 1 in the 11 to 13 range, and a backend guy like Tyler.
Pint is not a centerpiece at this point (his stock, and stuff, went down). McMahon probably isn’t either, at least not in a Realmuto deal.
This is the perfect spot for the Astros to jump up and say Realmuto and Yelich we will make this deal. It sets the Astros up for McCann to leave in a year. And Gonzalez to be the utility man and leave next year. Perfect trade partner for the Astros and Marlins……
It would take Whitley and Tucker
Good fits, just a question of if they are willing to be that aggressive imo. Wouldn’t surprise me if they got Realmuto
You aren’t going to be able to get both of those players in one deal. Both are going to cost a lot in trades and it makes no sense to package them together.
exactly unless they’re willing to offer all of their best prospects that’s not going to happen
I think Marlin fans will be highly disappointed again on the return of these players . Just like the other guys that were traded. The other teams know that Miami is in the middle of a fire sale
It wouldn’t take them all…. it would take 1 of either Whitley or Tucker. Then a combo of 4th threw 15th ranked prospects.
Your literally overeating the competency of the ownership.
Ozuna and Stanton didn’t get much at all. And that was the number 1 and 2 player on the roster. And if the Astros picked up Chen it would be a slam dunk for the Marlins.
1 of whitley or tucker for both yelich and realmuto? No itll cost Whitley, Tucker, and another top 100 along with 2 or 3 more prospects to net both because they couls get better trades elsewhere in separate deals.
Ozuna has 2 years left and isnt cheap costing 11 ish mill this year and possibly 13 to 15 mill next year.
Stanton had a huge contract that will turn sour in all likelihood when he opts in.
Yelich is making 7 mill this year, 9 mill in 19, 12 mill in 20, 14 mill in 21. 4 years roughly 44 mill for 27 28 29 30 age seasons of a guy whos posted 4.5 war 3 of the last 4 seasons according to fangraphs alone will cost tucker and other significant pieces.
No, it won’t. Probably wouldn’t cost either for J.T. considering what the Marlins are willing to take based of previous trades.
Yes, it will. The previous trades aren’t good comps for what they would target in return for Realmuto/Yelich. Both are controlled long term as explained above. If you expect them to take pennies on the dollar for those assets, be prepared for disappointment.
Stanton had an albatross contract. Neither Yelich nor Realmuto has that. They would cost a haul, which is why they are best traded separately.
Ideally, LAA would be a great fit but I don’t know what they can offer MIA.
HOU is likely the best fit for Realmuto. He and McCann would DH on off days. The Astros have the young players MIA seeks.
Another team is the Cleveland Indians. They would have to trade one of their Catchers in the package.
The Angels have the prospects but apparently they don’t want to deal them. This strongly suggests the Angels are in a soft rebuild and making cosmetic moves to conceal that.
they also have a gold-glove winner in maldonado, who additionally turned in an above-average offensive output last season in his first chance to start.
While saying he is a gold glove catcher is true he was below average offensively.
Adding $170 million in salaries and signing bonuses over the length of their contracts for Upton, Cozart, Kinsler, and Ohtani is a soft rebuild?
GTFO. That may have been the single dumbest thing you have ever posted and that is saying a ton.
The Angels draw people to the ballpark ($$$) and aren’t paying any payroll taxes. Their TV deal is very large and they probably get a significant cut of revenues.
Kinsler is an old man, the move stinks. Cesar Hernandez is more than twice the player than Kinsler will be and the Angels know that. They’ve been trying to get Hernandez for two winters in the row but won’t move prospects of value to do it.
Zack Cozart? Really, you think that’s going to work? He’s going from a Little League World Series park to a Grand Canyon ballpark in a division with big ballparks. Cozart’s HR numbers and the rest of his OPS are going to collapse.
The Angels could have moved the farm and got Giancarlo Stanton and Cesar Hernandez and had a real offense. Instead Mike Trout will be home in Millville New Jersey when the p[layoffs begin in October 2018.
Angels do not match up at all. For starters, eppler is building the farm and has shown he’s not giving up on the rebuild. Yes, Realmuto is a huge upgrade over Maldonado, but not enough for eppler to give up the farm for. Maldonado’s a solid starting catcher with a great arm and glove… i don’t see the fit.
Tucker/Martes/Kemp/Reed/Stassi/Davis/Paulino
That is super expensive and would hamper Houston’s ability to make trades for some time. It would not be worth it for Houston at all. While there is only 1 top 10 in that bunch there are a lot of prospects that will play mlb baseball. Big fat no.
I love Soto (37) and Kieboom (99) from Nats for Realmuto. Marlins have to start finding position players for the future.
I agree but those guys are so unproven at this point that i would want Romero in addition to both thoss guys. They havent even sniffed high class A ball yet.
Id offer them Yelich too and see of you can get Robles Soto Kieboom as the centerpieces. Yelich gives them a proven cheaper bat to replace Harper leaving for the next 3 years.
Good luck with that one. Robles’ isn’t moving
For 4 years of a guy whos posted 4.5 war 3 of the last 4 seasons and is owed 7 mill this year and 9 mill next?
This is why the Nationals will never make the world series.
They went cheap on relief pitching last year and whiffed on wieters.
Realmuto at catcher and yelich in center with eaton and harper easily makes them better and youre worried about Robles hoping he can be what Yelich is?
Nats only shot at a ws is this year cause they lose harper murphy gonzalez and madson.
His upside and age both factor into the reasoning. Sorry but yellich doesnt equal harper and still costs close to 10 million a year. Robles is a legit 5 tool prospect and helps cover the hole that could be left by harper. If harper doesnt leave (highly doubtful) then you can trade robles or eaton.
10 mill a year for 4 WAR? LOL 1 war is worth between 6 to 8 mill on the open market meaning yelich produces a value of 24 to 32 million during a season for 10 mill.
Would you rather have yelich at 7 mill, 9 mill, 13 mill, 15 mill next 4 years or Harper at 25 to 30 ish mill a year next 4 years?
4 years for roughly 44 mill for a guy whos going to give you 3 if not 4 war each season during his 27 28 29 30 years is a steal compared to paying harper market value at 7 to 10 years 25 to 30 mill each year
To clarify
Nationals get Realmuto and Yelich- 3 years of realmuto during arb (cheap) and 4 years of yelich at roughly 44 mill
Marlins get a package involving Robles Soto Kieboom.
The marlins packaging both together is something that probably wont happen but those 3 would be necessary for it to happen.
Trading yelich and realmuto separately makes more sense and brings back more talent.
Harper is when healthy almost a 10 war player. Thats two and a half yellich which roughly equals 25+ million. Robles has that type of upside yet only costs the rookie minimum. Not even close to happening.
“This is why the nationals will never make the World Series.”
The refrain literally every time someone reasonably doesn’t want to give up an elite prospect for anything…..
Nice crystal ball.
I love Robles, but calling him a potential 10-win player is crazy
Bryce Harper will never come close to 10 WAR again.
He will max out at around 7 possibly 8 but most likely will produce between 6 and 6.5 annually if hes playing his best. Harper doesnt have the defensive presence and the year he came close to 10 WAR he hit such an unsustainable .319 iso…..
25 to 30 mill for 6ish WAR is a bargain in of itself…..except for the fact teams have to worry about the luxury threshold. 1 player making 1/6 ish the threshold is trouble.
Doesnt take a crystal ball to see that 2018 is their best year to win it all given the fact that
2019- harper gonzalez murphy madson gone
2020- Rendon cashes in on a big pay day.
Theyll be losing a lot of production and dont exactly have the financial ability to replace what theyre losing.
Google isnt a crystal ball. It can see into the future and tell you why 2018 is their last chance to capitalize on everyone.
The Nats refusing to trade Robles has nothing to do with them making the WS or not. The Nats traded Giolito and Lopez last year, so they aren’t afraid to part with prospects for the right pieces.
I would love to see them get Realmuto but I don’t see them trading for Yelich. Getting Eaton and the emergence of Taylor sort of eliminates the need for a guy like Yelich.
I agree that the owners refusal to spend on relief pitching has harmed them but not wanting to trade Robles has nothing to do with it. Yelich is a nice piece but he isn’t someone that guarantees the Nats make WS.
Taylor isnt guaranteed to replicate his 2017 season. And even if he does its a 3.1 WAR compared to 4.5 from Yelich
Yelich is clearly an upgrade and so is realmuto. For a team that has been so unwilling to address the pen theyll need as much offense as you can get, which we saw to be the case in the 2017 WS. Neither teams pen was dominant.
2018 is their year before their core gets dismantled. Financially, theyre pretty SOL in 2019 even with harper gonzalez madson murphy off the books.
Trading Robles Soto and Kieboom for Yelich and Realmuto gives them
A. their best shot in 2018 at a ws
B. Gives them a cheap above market replacement for Harper for 2019 2020 2021.
C. Makes Taylor their 4th OF in 2018 but 2019 2020 is their CF.
D. Gives them cheap proven production from Yelich AND Realmuto for 3 years together opening up spending elsewhere to compete.
Yelich is Atlanta bound for a batch of pitcher prospects
Y’all are thinking they are going to get a ton but look what they got for Ozuna, Stanton and Dee, not 1 top 100 prospect in any of those 3 deals. So why do you all think trading Realmuto would land them multiple?
Demand for Realmuto will be huge. Gordon had little surplus value on his contract. Don’t know why baseball’s top LF (Ozuna) did’t command more.
Ozuna only has two years of control and, Hosmer-like, has had some bad years intersperses w the good ones. His brilliant 2017 could easily be his career year. He was worth less than you think.
yes, but more than what the fish got. not only is management subpar, they had no leverage in that every team knew they needed to get rid of him if they wanted to make money.
Stanton and Gordon had big contracts that the Marlins weren’t willing to eat enough of to get a good return Ozuna trade was bad but realmuto and yelish are a whole nother level of value
Does Yelich fetch an Eaton-like return? I don’t know much about Yelich personally, I’m a New Englander.
Yelich is slightly better than Eaton was at this point last year, but his contract is a little more expensive, so yeah, he should fetch a pretty similar return.
Who thought Dee Gordon would get a top 100?
Stanton getting a top 100 was under the premise the marlins at a aignificant portion of his money…they ate 0 if he opts out and 30 mill total if he opts in.
Ozuna was a salary dump and questions surrounding him being able to replicate his success exist. 1.2 war, 2.5 war previous 2 seasons according to fangraphs
Yelich has posted 4.5 war 3 of the last 4 seasons, has roughly a 4 year 44 mill contract for his 27 28 29 30 seasons while realmuto has 3.5 and 3.6 war last 2 seasons and 3 years of cheap arb.
Id look at context before comparing next time.
With three years and $38 million remaining on his contract, 29-year-old Dee Gordon has surplus value after posting 12.4 fWAR, valued at $108.3 million, over the last four years (despite a suspension-shortened season).
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It would be generous to claim that Gordon landed a Top 100 prospect as the three players traded have been omitted from all Top 100 lists with the exception of Nick Neidert’s brief inclusion at No. 84 on Baseball America’s midseason list.
Stanton and Gordon arguably had zero value, or if they did, it was a very small amount. Even the Ozuna trade, it was obvious that they cared more about getting his arb money off the books. And for what it’s worth, Alcantara and Guzmán might be in the top 100 prospects this year
Guzman possibly. Alcantara no way.
Realmuto would be a Nice Get for the Braves, but I think Wright, Pache, Muller, and Wisler should land them Christian Yelich
I’m thinking more like Gohara and Allard or Fried. Just two guys w quality.
try Soroka + Wright + fried that’s closer to the Adam Eaton deal
I’d have to take that as Miiami GM.
I hope the Braves hold off on Realmuto. It’d be a hassle to then have to move Flowers and Suzuki. Now it would be awesome to get Yelich though, cost less prospects than getting both, and it wouldn’t block AJax, Cumberland, or Conteras. With that being said, I certainly wouldn’t complain if we went out and got both
Contreras could easily be the best of the bunch you mentioned. I have a really difficult time (at this point) envisioning either Alex Jackson or Brett Cumberland as an everyday catcher. I’m not convinced that either will be good enough defensively. I think both are more likely to be future hit first back up catcher/DH types. I’d definitely deal them away if I could find someone who highly valued them.
Of course both are still young enough to develop some more.
You would have to pay someone to take wisler off your hands.
We don’t need Realmuto or Yelich. Both are nice players, but I’d rather not give up any of our top prospects for them. If we’re trading them for anything it better be for an ace type SP. And we better just not trade Fried or Wright period.
Does the LA Angels need a new catcher?
Their current one just won the gold glove, so no.
not necessarily, their guy just won a gold glove and was above-average with a bat in his hands, but he only has 1 year of control left and they could stand to get an offensive compliment to maldy.
Hope everyone is having a good Christmas.
Dunno why people think Rockies are a good fit here. Iannetta was worth exact same as Realmuto last year in WAR/600 terms. Yeah he’s much older but he’s also cheaper and doesn’t cost top prospects. Think Marlins fans may be disappointed (again) by what JP returns. They should keep him.
A bag of peanuts some Gatorade and a low a ball player from the Yankees for him. Sanchize needs a backup for when he Stanton and Judge aren’t hitting 900 foot home runs.
Clearly you don’t understand value when it comes to trades. Really hope this was sarcasm.
It was very much sarcasm
Ow. They Make you work on Christmas Day. Sad.
i bet some of these articles were most likely pre-written, the other that came out today were super simple and probably took about 20 minutes. also, i bet not all of the writers celebrate christmas.
Bruce Maxwell is still listed as Oakland’s starting catcher, with Dustin Garneau and Josh Phegley all backing him up – all 3 players are absolute AAAA trash and Sean Murphy can’t hit to save his life and is probably ending up a backup. Oakland has the farm to help Miami with whatever they want. If only they can release Maxwell for not even his controversies, but just because he really, REALLY sucks at baseball.
He probably would have been released already, maybe they are gonna wait a bit so there is no “controversy “ as to why he was released
Here’s the thing about Oakland’s situation. People see the farm system, and they assume we have the depth to sacrifice for a guy everyone thinks we need. A lot of our existing depth is now pitching, and that’s valuable for us when good starting pitchers command $15M+ a year contracts. We can’t afford to pay that, so looking at the farm to solve our problems is a wise alternate for a club that has done well pumping out quality starting pitchers; maybe not aces, but we can put a serviceable 5 man rotation out most of the time.
And Murphy showed in the AFL that he can hit. We know he can hit for power. Now we just wait for him to put it together. In any case he’s considered one of the best defensive catching prospects in baseball, and already considered major league ready defensively, so I like his chances of breaking in to the majors in 2019.
I like Phegley. He’s a #2 catcher on a great team or starter for a rebuild. Solid behind the plate and good in the clubhouse.
Washington seems perfect. Brewers and dodgers as well.
How are the Dodgers a match in anyway for Realmuto? They have both Austin Barnes, and Yasmani Grandal.
Yup, not only do the Dodgers have Barnes and Grandal but the deepest crop of catchers on the farm in the bigs with Kyle Farmer, Keibert Ruiz, Will Smith, and Connor Wong
Keibert ruiz is legit, glad we didnt have to give him up in darvish package.
I think Realmoto will go to Tampa Bay or Padres. If he gets trades.
That would serve him right for being a petulant schmuck. “Don’t like losing in Miami, how about some more losing in Tampa?”
I doubt Realmuto gets traded at all.
I don’t know why the Friars would give up on Austin Hedges already, I havnt heard a thing about that at all!
The reason you haven’t heard anything about the Padres giving up on Austin Hedges is they haven’t. 2017 was his first full year and though he didn’t hit for much average after starting the season 0-for-26, he DID hit 18 homers.
He also established himself as one of the top five defensive catchers in the majors. With all the top tier pitchers due in the next couple years, the Padres need a top defensive catcher to get the most out of them as quickly as possible. They have one already in Hedges, and he’s under control through 2022.
Hedges is good but he’s not a franchise player. Seriously, his defense is good but not elite. I don’t disagree that he is a top tier defensive catcher but runners stole from him last year. He is a keeper but let’s not crown him king yet.
He was fifth in the NL in CS% and that’s with Chacin and Perdomo pitching a bunch of innings, and neither of those guys is great at holding runners. Throwing out 37% of base-stealers is pretty good (league average is 27%) and only 45 runners tried to steal off him in 933 innings behind the plate.
Hedges is an elite defensive catcher by any definition. And don’t even try to say “runners stole from him.” As davidcoonce74 already pointed out, he had a 37% CS% and statistically speaking, if a catcher’s CS% is over 30%, trying to steal against him is counterproductive.
Yeah, that was puzzling to me too. Hedges is probably never going to hit, but his defense alone should be a carrying tool for a fairly long major-league career. Jeff Mathis has been playing for like 12 years now and Hedges is better than Mathis. An elite defensive catcher who is also as young as Hedges is pretty rare – catchers develop slower than other players because it’s the hardest position on the field defensively – and who knows, maybe he has a Charles Johnson-career if he learns the slightest modicum of plate discipline. Even if he doesn’t, that defense plus a dozen or so homers, plus he’s cheap, will keep him behind the plate in SD.
You haven’t heard about it because it isn’t true. It’s way too early to write Hedges off as a hitter and even if he doesn’t hit he makes up for it with the glove.
Gary Sanchez and Yelitch to the Angels, realmuto and trout to the Yankees, 5 PTBNL to the Marlins.
Lay off the holiday egg nog. Sober up.
Lol i like the creativity but dont think thats gonna work lol.
Dude seriously
No way the Angels or Marlins do that.
I think he was being facetious !
I hope he ends up in Milwaukee. The most underrated player in the league would replace the games previous most underrated player in Lucroy.
Hard pass on Realmuto to the padres.
Even if the Padres have concerns about hedges bat, his defense makes up for his bat.
Realmuto isnt worth the prospects the padres would need to trade esp when realmuto is a FA in 2021. 2 seasons of him while we are competitive isnt worth giving up 3 or 4 players to help us be competitive longer.
Keep the prospects and sign realmuto in 2021 or hope hedges can improve his offense or sign a catcher in 2021.
Nationals are in need of a good catcher.
IMO, a good catcher is the most important position on the diamond. That said a team that has had a glaring need …and STILL made the playoffs the past two seasons….is Boston. Vaz is good enough as a steady backup but Leon lacks defensive skills and can’t seem to throw anybody out at 2B. Boston could offer Groome, and maybe a lesser prospect or two (the glaring Marlins need is pitching). J.T. also played 9 games at 1B, so he could spell 2-bags against LHP. If the Sox were smart maybe Yelich/Bradley in a package as well. I like the Realmuto/Vazquez combo behind the plate…if the Marlins would take Swihart too this could happen!
Groome and Chatham would be a solid return for J.T.
Meadows, Glasnow, and Cutch (and cash) for Yelich and Realmuto.
Cutch is a FLA guy that can put some butts in seats and who will be off the books in a year/flipped at deadline for more talent, plus two solid prospects in Meadows and Glasnow.
Pitt gets OF set w/ Yelich, Marte, Polanco. And a C.
An then send Cole to NYY for Adams and Andujar. Also send off Cervelli and Freese for bullpen parts.
Rebuild for Pitt is done, FLA more prospects and less $ committed.
No. Awful trade for the Marlins. No way this happens.
Thanks for bringing solutions.
The Marlins have no real need for McCutchen, even as a midseason trade piece, because his trade value will decrease over the first half of the season. Meadows was bad this season, and his prospect status is down slightly. I’m sure they’d love Glasnow given the strides he made this year in AAA, but he’s still a bit of a risk given his prior command troubles
Its such a bad trade proposal it would be hard to fix without you being upset at the truth.
Meadows and Glasnow headline a package just for yelich. Marlins have 0 use for cutch and would want prospects.
Like the trade for pirates but not sure why marlins would do this.
Why wouldn’t Yankees prefer Straily to Cole?. He’s been better the last two years, he’s cheaper, and he has more control.
Man this would be perfect for the Mets if they
A. Had a farm system that Alderson built, like he was supposed to
B. Had money, which they do but their owners are scumbags
C. All of the above
If the Rockies did a trade for Realmuto, I could see them trying to work Tapia and Murphy into the deal instead of going straight to the top of their farm.
Personally I’d like to see them give Alex Avila a 2 year deal to platoon with Iannetta.
That would be ideal for Rockies but most likely I could see them getting Pint along with another SP in their top 20’s prospects for Realmuto
Angels and Nationals both seem like good fits.
The Angels may not have the farm system but, they have plenty of young rotation depth. Tropeano, Shoemaker, Heaney etc which could be added to the pot.
Dont forget Lucroy though
D-Backs would be a good fit, but the problem is the prospects.
Astros are a dark horse.
What about Lewis Brinson and Brandon Woodruff for Realmuto?
I find the suggestion that Austin Hedges is falling out of favor in SD eyebrow raising. Never heard any rumblings like that locally, or elsewhere. I’d think his defense alone would buy him at least another season to work on bringing his offense up to a palatable level.
Man would LOVE to see him in Queens….but that will never happen, anywhere but Nationals PLEASE GOD. I actually think AZ would make a lot of sense.
Plus Miami front office is only more dysfunctional than ours so I could see him going to AZ for a tin of Skoal wintergreen.
Would’ve loved him on the White Sox. Damn Castillo…
Would you offer Zach Collins ? Or Spencer Adams ?
Oh i hope so bad the padres give up on hedges. I still lovee his potential. If padres made him available i would want angels to swoop in so badly
Realmuto to CLE for Mejia. Marlins get top C prospect who will likely be good in the future. CLE gets the C that might put them over the top now.