11:59am: The Nationals, too, are interested in both Realmuto and Yelich, writes MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro. The Nats’ interest in Realmuto has been previously reported by the Washington Post and MLB.com, among others, though GM Mike Rizzo’s club hasn’t been prominently linked to Yelich due to its own strong collection of outfielders. Per Frisaro, the Nats could have interest in trying to land both players, though that’s likely true of many teams.
Frisaro notes that the Marlins would covet both Victor Robles of the Nationals and the Braves’ Acuna, though both clubs would likely be reluctant to part with their top-ranked minor league talents. Rosenthal tweets that the Nationals would be loath to part with either Robles or fellow outfield Juan Soto, for instance. It’s a similar tale for the Phillies — an oft-cited Yelich suitor — as Frisaro writes that Rhys Hoskins would surely appeal to the Marlins, but it stands to reason that he’d be near untouchable after his stellar 2017 debut.
Talks regarding both Yelich and Realmuto are expected to pick up next week, according to Frisaro.
8:52am: Not only have the Braves called the division-rival Marlins to express interest in Christian Yelich (as has been previously reported), they’ve also tried to engage Miami in talks on catcher J.T. Realmuto, per Jon Morosi of MLB.com. Talks between the two sides haven’t advanced too far in either case as of late, he notes, but it seems as though the Braves have some level of interest in attempting to pry one or both players out of South Florida. David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution hears that the Braves have expressed interest in acquiring the pair, though he classifies it as doubtful that new GM Alex Anthopoulos would part with the overwhelming level of talent it’d take to land both players.
Atlanta will trot out a pair of solid veterans on one-year commitments — Tyler Flowers and Kurt Suzuki — to handle the bulk of their catching duties in 2018, whereas Realmuto and his remaining three years of control would give them a longer-term answer behind the dish. There’s a clearer spot for Yelich following the trade of Matt Kemp to the Dodgers, but Atlanta wants to leave space for top prospect Ronald Acuna to debut in an outfield corner as well. O’Brien speculates that perhaps the Braves could convince Miami to take on Nick Markakis and his salary if Martin Prado or another pricey veteran heads back to Atlanta in the deal.
While both Yelich and Realmuto are immensely popular trade targets — Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic writes (subscription required/recommended) that “virtually every club” is interested in trading for Yelich — it seems that there was at one point some positive momentum between the two sides. MLB.com’s Mark Bowman tweets that Atlanta and Miami “made some progress toward” a trade involving Yelich back at the Winter Meetings. The Marlins, though, pumped the brakes on talks a bit as they dealt with significant PR backlash from trading away the likes of Giancarlo Stanton, Dee Gordon and Marcell Ozuna, according to Bowman. He does add that talks were expected to resume eventually.
Certainly, acquiring even one of the two would require a massive haul. (Rosenthal, for instance, spoke to one exec who suggested that the Marlins could rightly ask three to four “genuine assets” in exchange for Yelich alone.) Acquiring both in one swoop would presumably require one of the largest packages of young, controllable talent in recent memory.
Even after being stripped of a dozen prospects on the heels of their recent front office scandal, the Braves have one of the game’s strongest farm systems, though there are still untouchable players in the organization (O’Brien has tweeted more than once that Acuna simply is not available in discussing scenarios with his followers). On paper, then, it’s possible that the two sides could line up for a swap, though things are never quire so simple. Other factors to consider include the financial component of a deal, whether the Marlins would charge some type of premium for dealing their top two remaining stars to a division rival, and what type of splash the new Anthopoulos-led Braves front office wants to make on its first significant move in Atlanta.
It’s worth stressing, again, that the Braves are merely one team that is interested in the pair of young Miami stars. In that same column, Rosenthal writes that the Nationals have already checked in on Realmuto, while the Astros “would figure to be interested” in the Miami backstop as well. MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro wrote yesterday that upwards of dozen clubs were in on Realmuto. As for Yelich, the Cardinals, Phillies, Diamondbacks, Giants, White Sox and even the outfield-heavy Cubs are among the teams that have been connected to him in previous reports, and surely there are others that have at least gauged the asking price as well.
Markakis for a bag of rocks
Markakis, Newcombe, Sims, Acuna, Allard & Cumberland for Prado, Yelich & Realmuto is a deal I think both sides would agree to. If the Prado-Markakis contract swap part of the deal is removed, then Wright and Soroka replace Newcombe and Sims. Miami wants a massive haul, Braves have the firepower and might think about doing this.
I changed my mind I like this pairing, especially if Atlanta thinks they are better than the Phillies and Mets, they could do a “win now” move like that.
I don’t think they let go of Acuna. Maybe if they included Anderson and Soroka instead of Acuna they’d be in on it.
Yeah that works too but add in a high risk guy like Weigel too. Acuna has that 60 grade and removing him for a 55 guy might not work by itself.
Acuna simply isn’t moving. He’ll be starting in a corner by the end of the 3rd week of the season in ATL.
AA doesn’t have a great history of keeping prospects. He basically traded Syndergaard for Dickey. I wouldn’t say anyone is not moving. Hide your wife, hide your children, AA be trading everyone around here.
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That trade is huge. No way it happens. For one, the Braves will not go into the season with three catchers. For another, Acuna is not moving.
If Miami is not interested in the Prado & Yelich for Markakis deal because of the money owed Markakis, then the Braves give them a couple of middling arms (Walsh and Sims are doable). Point being, if Miami wants to get rid of the Prado contract, they simply cannot expect to get much back even with Yelich in the deal. Yelich’s contract is team friendly, but not so much so that they can ask the world for him. In fact, I am not certain the Braves would/should even consider trading Acuna straight up for Yelich.
If I am the Braves, I stick with the veteran catchers on a budget mentality. It’s one of the few spots that you can get bargains and one of the most important spots to have a veteran, especially with a halfway decent track record.
No kidding the Marlins would take that deal, but only a complete idiot would make that deal from the Braves side.
Nats get Realmuto, Yelich, and Ziegler.
Marlins get MAT (already a mlb center fielder) A.J. Cole (AAA with mlb exp.) Keiboom (#3 prospect and top 100) Daniel Johnson (#7 prospect), and Severino.(already a mlb catcher).
Who hangs up first?
Just thinking about what this would cost the Braves in terms of prospects is giving me major heartburn.
Yeah, and more than half those prospects will end up as scrubs, so tell your heart to knock it off.
“Overwhelming level of talent” it’ll take to acquire these 2? Send a couple single A magic beans and a Fast Pass to Disney, that should get it done…at least it would if it were the Yankees asking.
Except Stanton had zero trade value cause of his contract whereas Yelich is practically making pennies. Do people even think before they comment?
Zero Trade value? That is just unequivocally false. Stanton’s $300 million will be a pittance compared to what Harper and Machado get.
The problem was that Jeter showed up to the poker table and dropped his cards face up on the table. Everyone knew they were desperate to cut payroll. The size of the contract only limited the number of suitors.
It’s not even that much money for a guy who’s elite when healthy. In 2025 there’s going to be tons of players making $30+M a year. Jeter blew this so badly, it cant help be thought he’s still going to leave soon and go back to the Yankees.
Do people forget that the Marlins agreed to TWO trades that Stanton vetoed? The Marlins wanted to cut their budget down, Stanton gave a list of 4 teams he’d approve trades to, and only all 4 only had reported slight interest. There was 0 leverage for the Marlins in these discussions.
Except, the Yankees will be paying Stanton roughly 30 mill a year primarily for his age 31 through 37 seasons when he opts in to his contract. Yankees are getting 4 prime years.
Harper and Machado are signing at 26. If they get 10 year deals, don’t think they will, they’ll still be a year younger then Stanton at 36 and teams will get 6 prime years ages 26 to 32
The contract was bad because any team acquiring it would be on the hook for his 31 to 37 age seasons…..and that contract will turn towards the end.
Oh that’s cute, you really do think he’s going to opt in and not go home to LA when the Dodgers RF will have a vacancy when Puig leaves after 2018.
The Dodgers already said they don’t want him since they don’t believe he will age well in RF. He will be a full time DH eventually
Provide evidence. He only didn’t go to LA because they have too many OFs, they wont by 2019, and even if they dont buy him as a RF, Bellinger will still be young enough to move to RF and Giancarlo can play 1B instead.
Yanks are paying Stanton 26 million a year, if he doesn’t opt out in 3 years they get 30 million to offset his salary. Either way this was a great deal for the Bombers. Players of the same caliber next year will cost 10 million more in their prime.
You want to sign Stanton as a 1B lolololol man the comments on here just keep getting dumber.
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The dodgers would want him playing RF at 31 and sign him to a 7 or 8 year contract? Guess they don’t want to be winning a World Series from 2020-2030……
If Stanton opts in he is being paid 7 years at 209 million.
Already, at 31 years of age JD Martinez was looking for 7 years 200 mill…..and is not getting the contract.
You really think in 3 years Stanton will get 7 or 8 years and an AAV more than 30 mill at 31 years of age? He might top the AAV, I highly doubt it, but he would only get 4 or 5 years.
Stanton is opting in.
What fantasy world are you living in? Stanton at 1B? Come on man let’s be logical here…people posting on here also seem to forget that if Stanton opts in HE STILL HAS A NO TRADE CLASUE. Clearly the dude used that and if he opts out no team will give him a full no trade again. Not to mention the money for the 7yr/209M that he would be opting into won’t be matched. Once Stanton hits 35 years of age the production will drop, the Yankees will try to move him and his contract and will have zero leverage in doing so.
If Stanton opts in, his AAV(the number that the Yankees are seriously interested in) will only be 22 million. I think the Yankees would take that, considering Ellsbury’s current AAV is higher than that!
Stanton’s trade value was right around zero due to his albatross contract, opt out, and NTC.
But would he be able to get 5 years 175? Or 4 years 160? After Machado and Harper, contracts are gonna be HIGH. I say he opts in but it will be tempting.
That’s the dumbest comment on the internet so far today. Congratulations dummy.
Maybe you should rethink your comment or take your own advice. Stanton has plenty of on-field value. He was the NL MVP coming off of a 7 WAR season at age 27.
I’m so tired of people using the wrong context in the Stanton trade. A contract is not an albatross IF the player is productive at a high level. Ellsbury is a bit of an albatross. Jordan Zimmerman is an albatross of a contract.
When trading for Stanton, teams low-balled the prospect package because in addition to acquiring him they also have to pay him $300 mil. However, his annual salary is not really high at all once you consider what Harper, Machado, Donaldso, etc are going to get in the next 2 years or what Cabrera, Cano, Cespedes, Trout, Pujols, Heyward, Ramirez, etc have already secured. The only real issue that some have is the length of Stanton’s deal and the likelihood that he might not perform as well at ages above 35.
That being said, if Stanton was a FA this winter there’s ZERO doubt in my mind that he would easily get 8/$200 or more via FA.
Any time you have an elite talent under 28 you can almost be assured that they will command a contract at top value for 7-10 years. So anytime you sign a Machado or Harper you can bet that the last couple of years of their deal will be an overpay,
I look at what the Yanks gave the Marlins as almost a posting fee to obtain the contractual rights to Stanton. It’s just not a conventional trade because of the salary. But Stanton was going to get $25-$30 mil with at least 8 years from someone if he was a FA this year. Add the fact that he had a no-trade and that simply reduced the number of teams in the hunt.
Of course they don’t think. Marlins fans think that because their unrealistic opinions of what the Marlins should have gotten from Stanton were not realized that means that Jeter somehow “gave” Stanton to the Yankees.
I’m so sick of hearing this thing over and over. The Stanton trade was clean and there’s nothing more to it.
Qbass is a Red Sox fan who always complains anytime the Yankees make a move. It’s called Bitterness
My god, an outfield of Ronald Acuna, Ender Inciarte, and Christian Yelich would scare me as a fan of whomever the Braves are playing that day. That is scary. If they reach to their potential, an infield of Austin Riley, Dansby Swanson, Ozzie Albies, Freddie Freeman, and J.T. Realmuto is frightening. If they get that ace they’ve been searching for, you better watch out.
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except it would certainly take either Acuna or Albies to get both of yelish and realmuto. probably Albies
It would actually take neither one of them. They could get both without including any of the two mentioned
Yea, probably just markakis and the ghost of Matt Adams.
Then you’d be giving up every pitching prospect instead.
If you’re not including Albies or Acuna, then the braves are including Allard, soroka, wentz, fried, along with others.
Yeah, Miami needs pitching and ATL has like 20 high ceiling ones on the farm that the Marlins could literally pick any 5 of them and it probably wouldn’t even make a dent.
Why are you scared of players who haven’t sniffed MLB yet?
Realmuto is unnecessary. 3 years of control when the Braves have top 3 production out of the C spot this year and a couple fast approaching C prospects, Alex Jackson in particular.
Just get Yelich and sign Machado.
OMG, stop with the Machado crap, no way in hell Atlanta would ever spend that much money on a position player, so get over it
Why would they?
Yes, that’s short-term, but do you really think Alex Jackson is the long-term answer? He’s got a lively bat, and has made strides in defense, but catching is the shallowest of positions in MLB in terms of available free agents over the next few years. To lock Realmuto for even the next 3 years at that price would allow us to spend possibly more on a front-line starter 3B/OF.
If they don’t get Yelich, they could fill the corner OF spot he occupies a lot easier than if they didn’t get Realmuto and Jackson isn’t the answer.
I’m of the opinion that the absolute best case scenario for Alex Jackson is to be a Gattis like catcher. I just don’t see that as a feasible everyday catcher for a team that looks to contend. Jackson and Cumberland both should be trade bait if a team is very high on them.
Did it scare any of the Marlins’ opponents when it was Stanton/Yelich/Ozuna ?
I never thought of that. Even the Phils didn’t fear them
It’s time to start shifting into the next phase of the rebuild. I think Yelich could help us take the next step. Yes it will cost a ton, but you don’t just hoard prospects for the sake of developing them all and creating a logjam. Prospects are also currency. Currency that could very well lose value in the next year or two. Do it AA…do it!
Yelich is affordable/controllable/proven and hasn’t even reached his full potential.
When Anthopoulos was with the Jays, leaks of trades were a no-no. It was said that if a trade was really happening, you wouldn’t be hearing about it until it was done.
Like that Donaldson deal lol
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I don’t see this as a good move for the braves tbh I think they should wait and see what they have in thier prospects and then spend $$ or whatever is left of the farm to upgrade later I don’t think these deals would be worth it long term. just my opinion
Braves don’t have room or need for Yelich, but definitely have the pitching prospects Miami would require for Realmuto, Braves could fairly easily trade Suzuki too. Like the matchup for JT here, but ATL won’t give up what Miami wants for Yelich.
No room or need for Yelich? Are you serious? Yelich is affordable for 5 more years, Markakis is about to head out, and none of the outfield prospects, other than Acuna, is close to being ready. Braves have no need for JT.
for all the people who are saying that Braves are 1 or 2 players from competing this. Well here are those players.
Yelich and Prado for Markakis and three pitching prospects. Which three? How about Atlanta chooses three on their top prospect list to protect (say Gohara, Wright, and Soroka) and Miami chooses three from the rest.
I think it would take two of the top and maybe Pache and another top 20 Braves pitching prospect. So probably one out of these two Newcomb/Fried being ready for major league action and then 1 or 2 if the Fish don’t want the mlb ready guys of Allard/Soroka/Wright/Anderson being the top of the line guys and then probably someone in the range of Wentz/Muller/Weigel only if the Marlins were taking on Markakis and the Braves are taking Prado. Personally I’d be ok with Kakes, Fried (who I think is better than Newcomb but less likely to be the innings eater Newcomb may prove to be), Allard or Soroka and Pache for Ziegler and Yelich.
You seem to get it! Soroka, Allard and Fried and it’s a fair accommodation.
I think for Yelich and Prado, it would be
Markakis, Allard, Wentz, Mueller, Touissant, and Herbert.
I never like these “so and so is interested” articles. I mean no s*it who wouldn’t be interested in highly talented cheap talent that has years of control !!!!
You would be humming a different tune if it was about the Yankees instead of the Braves.
We don’t need yelich and have a lot of quality young talent already so no you are wrong my friend lol
My point is these “interested” articles mostly lead to nothing
So why waste your time reading them if you don’t like them?
As a Braves fan would love the idea of Yelich as long as the Marlins are interested in young controllable pitching prospects. If the Braves can’t swing this maybe they can deal some sort of package with the Orioles of Teheran and Markakis for Austin Hays+.
If they weren’t in the same division this would be a perfect match. Yelich would take 4 prosectcts and 2 pitchers in my book, Looking at the Braves it would take 2 of Wright, Soroka, Allard, Anderson, and Fried, and then 2 lower prospects. I see Realmuto going to the Nats.
That deal is 4 top 100 prospects…..I know Yelich has very serious value, but I do not see 4 in the top 100 going…MLB has Allard, Soroka and Wright all in the top 35 with Anderson at 51… Allard rated as the number 1 LHP prospect in baseball. I just dont see that deal being anywhere near the realm of reasonable
No, I mean pick 2 of those guys, and 2 lower prospects.
Sounds like a fair trade to me. Problem is I don’t think the Fish are looking for “fair” here.
I apologize, I missed the tidbit where you said 2 of those….2 off that list makes substantially more sense..
Nats do have most glaring need at C after falling for Scott Boras’ sales pitch on Wieters last winter. I’m not sure who they have left in their system that MIA would want, but WAS would likely send Wieters to the Marlins and pay down his contract significantly along with 2 or 3 A or AA prospects.
“ . . . after falling for Scott Boras’ sales pitch on Winters last winter.”
Doubt Rizzo/the Nationals “fell” for anything. The alternative was starting Derek Norris behind the plate 120 times. At least Wieters was good once. And if maintaining good relations with The Boras Corp. results in resigning Harper to a multi year deal it will be seen as a worthy investment. Like the rest of your suggestion, although I’d expect the Marlins to demand more for Realmuto.
Please re-sign Harper at $425 million. He will continue to get hurt and be a very good player but not worth anywhere near what he will be paid by some idiotic team and I hope the idiots are in Washington. I want to laugh in a few years when Nats fans whine about that albatross of a contract!
Be still my heart!
I have loved reading about and following the incredible prospects that the Braves have assembled. I would hate to lose them, except in a deal that gets Atlanta into World Series discussion. For Yelich and Realmuto, I would give up anyone in the minor league system except for Acuna, Soroka, Pache, and Allard (I consider Fried and Gohara part of the MLB team). I would also be comfortable sending one of Atlanta’s MLB catchers and Markakis back to Miami (since they will need catching and outfield help). I would be fine with taking on Prado’s salary to help balance things out. How about this:
Atlanta gets: Yelich, Realmuto, and Prado
Miami gets: Markakis, Suzuki, Ian Anderson (Braves’ #5 prospect), Joey Wentz (Braves’ #7 prospect), Dustin Peterson (Braves’ #14 prospect), and $5.25 million (half of Markakis’ ’18 salary)
Who hangs up first?
Miami hung up when you didn’t add Wright and Wilson to the deal.
Marlins do for sure!
Not a chance the Marlins do it for that package. Gotta take at least one more from the top 7.
and that’s just for Yelich
Not even close. For both realmuto and yelich, start with one of ozbies, Acuna, or Swanson, then add one of gohara, soroka, or Allard and cover ALL of markakis’s salary plus more prospects.
Swanson has never been available to be traded from the Braves. Acuna has expressly been ruled out from moving and will be starting in a corner by the end of the 3rd week of the 2018 season. Albies maybe, but even then it’s not necessary because they want pitching.
New GM, new conversations. He may not put same value on all 3 that predecessors did.
The marlins just don’t hang up the phone, they all get massive heart attacks from laughing so hard.
What?! So Marlins give up two players that would take 7 STRONG prospects to acquire, takes on some dead money and gets 3 prospects and gets rid of the one bad contract that could redeem himself and get some kind value by midseason? I would quit being a Marlins fan right then and there for something so awful.
Why would the Marlins trade both Yelich and Realmuto without getting a handful of the Braves TOP prospects. Think about it guys. They could trade them separately to the A’s, Rockies, Diamondbacks, Phillies, White Sox, etc for several top 100 prospects and several more STRONG assets. Use some common sense.
I have it as Markakis, Newcombe, Sims, Acuna, Allard & Cumberland for Prado, Yelich & Realmuto. While they lose Acuna, it does leave room for Braves to make a run at Harper or local guy Charlie Blackmon too.
That’s not gonna happen. The Fish demand Acuna and the Braves say no thanks.
But if the plan is to grab Blackmon or Harper all along, Acuna won’t be necessary. You are literally adding 3 all-star ceiling players, sorry, that costs your best prospect, who might not even be an all star once.
But also, true, Acuna doesnt even need to be in this deal, just replace him with Soroka, Wright and/or Anderson to replace him.
I agree Acuna is unlikely to be dealt. But then to offset him not being included the Braves will have to include Pache and Gohara and probably Alex Jackson.
Hey! Now that is a fair trade. Not the overpay us Marlins fan want but it wouldn’t be bad at all.
Newcombe and Sims might end up as back end guys but who go direct into Miami’s rotation, Acuna is the true gem who immediately replaces Yelich, Allard becomes the #1 prospect and Cumberland eventually might replace Realmuto. Seems fair for 3 guys, 2 in their prime all-stars and another guy who was an all-star previously for Atlanta who provides veteran leadership who had a 3.8 fWAR in 2016.
I could see either becoming a solid #3 and the other as a #4, with sub 4.25 ERA’s. I’ll take that all day long if they’re giving a team 200 innings.
That’s funny that you think the Braves would ever spend the money it will take to land Bryce Harper.
Why is Straily never mentioned? In case no one’s paying attention, he outperformed Chris Archer over the last two seasons! He’s younger, cheaper, and most certainly available. How about Straily to Philly for Nick Williams?
I explained this to you this morning in the other marlins mlbtraderumors story when you asked about it. Archer has significantly outperformed Strailey.
Straily: 3.1 fWAR
Archer: 7.8 fWAR
Not only has Straily not outperformed Archer over the last two seasons, Archer has literally had more than double the performance of Straily over that time.
Straily is a better trade, he has some upside, Archer will cost so much he will never meet expectations. You add Archer to a team that needs to get over the top like Verlander to Astros.
ERA, WHIP and innings pitched don’t count for anything?
Archers has thrown for 201 innings both of last two years and his FIP is SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. FIP > ERA.
Nope, all that matters is winning and that’s what the W in WAR stands for.
The only question that truly matters is: “How much does this player help you win?”. WAR is flawed slightly, but we should not rest until we find that perfect stat that that encapsulates every aspect of a players game on the field into a single number. WAR is closest we have, so its what should be used.
The only player from the Marlins was Stanton. Marcell isn’t that good. Clearly he’s on something if he tripled his numbers in a years time. And we know dee Gordon got something from Barry bonds.
Conjecture and slander. Please change your name and stop feeding career hurting rumors.
It’s not slander when its fact. You don’t have to admit it. You’re a fool if you think bonds is clean.
Please stop. You’re making cubs fans look worse than what some have dragged down to recently.
lol no, dude. wrong.
Ozuna had like 20 homers in 2016 then jumps to 39. That’s a red flag. Then he went from what 75rbi to 120+ come on now.
2015 he had 10 homers and 44rbi in 123 games
Everybody’s home run rates have spiked past few years. Are they all juicing?
He nearly quaddupled his homers in two years. The only other person to go from a career high in homers from 34 to 74 is Barry Bonds and we all know he juiced. His entire time with the giants he was on something.
That’s also from raw power. Ozuna was never projected to his 15 homeruns in a year. That’s like starlin Castro going from a career high 16 to a career high 45 from ’17 to next season 2018.
You’re conveniently ignoring his 2014 season where he hit 23 with a .186 ISO to make it seem like he came completely out of nowhere. He had a down 2015, but he’s long had power
He got off the juice for a year then back on it. Now he’s at Busch stadium. A much more hitter friendly park. If he’s as good as you claim he’ll hit 45/120/.300/.400OBS
Okay. Now answer this if you think Ozuna may be juicing what about Ian Happ hitting 15 HR in almost a full season of AAA ball, but then comes up to the big leagues and hits 25 HR in a half a season? Clearly I know you are a cub fan. Just throwing that out.
“Since we’ve created all of this chaos, let’s really stick it to our fans and trade some studs to a division rival!” ~ Derek Jeter
Realmuto,Yelich for C.Frazier, J. Sheffield, G.Bird, and B. McKinney. Enough to get it done? Speculation obviously. I don’t think the Yanks are even sniffing a deal for either of these guys but fun to imagine.
We don’t need yelich or Realmuto and we would lose 1 really talented young starter in that deal. That trade makes 0 sense for the Yankees. also we can just play Clint
Why would the Yankees want realmuto? He’s trash. He won’t get back anything good unless a team is desperate if their catcher gets hurt. Yelich will get 2 top 25 prospects back
Realmuto maybe rookie ball players with the skill level of geovany Soto.
Lol how am I a troll..I’m just speaking the truth. Realmuto is overrated.
Realmuto is solid defensively but my analysis was ifSanchez has the ability to play first. Helps him have less toll on the legs and also opens up a larger DH role for the OF cluster.
How is he overrated?
And people think Braves fans are far off! That wouldn’t even interest them for Yelich. And what are the Yanks going to do with Realmuto? As well as Ellsbury, Hicks, and Gardner.
That would get Yelich. Bird is legit.
Lol, you honestly think that a package of Bird, Frazier, Sheffield, and McKinney wouldn’t interest Miami for Yelich?
I don’t get why the Braves are even interested. Stay the course. Yelich isn’t that great. And we don’t even need a catcher. If acuna is in there I’ll flip out. Unless they make the trade for prospects that are blocked then I don’t want them
Braves have to give probably 3 top 100 prospects and 2 low level, high end guys. It seems like the Marlins don’t necessarily want “major league ready” guys so guys like Ian Anderson, Wentz, Pache, and Alex Jackson should be in play. That’s a high starting point though.
We want both………
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The Braves can use a Realmuto or even a knock off Muto version.
I think the Braves have the pieces to make this happen, only if we
can trade some salary and yet still give the Marlins some relief.
Something like this Atlanta sends- Kakes, Flowers, Swanson,Sims,Wisler,
Allard, Anderson, and Cumberland to Mia for Yelich, Realmuto, Prado,
Lots of pieces without a doubt, however with taking on all the extra
money due Miami’s players-Prado, Ziegler, Tazawa and sending back Kakes
and Flowers makes the offset more palatable, plus it does give them the
ability to field a team and still save 15 mil this season, thus reducing
An OF of Yelich, Ender, Adams until Acuna is ready looks a lot
better. Prado at 3B, Johan at SS is a solid left side of the diamond.
Miami gets a vet OF and C on decent 1 yr deals. Swanson in terms of
control and projection equal JTR in my mind, Sims,Wisler, Allard,
Anderson, and Cumberland should be enough for Yelich and Prado. A couple
of backend SP or long BP guys, 2 top 100 prospects and a C prospect to
round it out.
A starting lineup of Ender, Albies, Freeman, Realmuto, Yelich, Prado,
Camargo, Adams/Acuna is pretty solid and could contend for a WC and
would be controlled for a while giving the Braves a window of contention
for 2018-2021. The Braves would still have money for next offseason
when Gonzo, McCarthy, Kazmir, Ziegler, and Tazawa come off the books.
The only guy I would package a deal with acuna in it would be for trout
You wouldn’t trade him for Altuve? Goldschmidt? Bryant? Correa? Lindor? etc???
bellinger? judge? seager? arenado?
right I was just throwing out a few names lol…I’m sure we could come up with 30-50 names
Betts? Sanchez? Syndergaard? Ramirez(Jose)?
Ramirez’ remaining contract is laughably cheap.
18:$2.428M, 19:$3.75M, 20:$6.25M, 21:$9M, 22:$11M club option ($2M buyout), 23$13M club option
7.57 million per year for his prime years.
I think that atlbraves was just continuing from your list as I did from his.
Ill just pick a couple guys off each team…feel free to add any names I miss since im sure I will miss a few: Judge, Severino, Betts, Benintendi, Devers, Sale, Archer, Buxton, Lindor, Ramirez, Kluber,
Ugh fat thumb hit send too early….I know you guys were building off my list…was just loling at the guy who said Trout was the only guy he’d trade Acuna for since there are loads of guys that would be worth it.
Goldschmidt, Benintendi, Betts, Devers, Sale, Bryant, Rizzo, Lindor, J. Ramirez, Kluber, Carrasco, Arenado, Fulmer, Correa, Altuve, Springer, Bregman, Seager, Bellinger, Buxton, Berrios. Syndergaard, Judge, Severino, Sanchez, Hoskins (maybe), Bumgarner, C. Martinez, Archer, T. Turner, Scherzer, Strasburg…that’s 32 names besides Trout….I left off a few fringe guys like DeGrom as well as pending FAs like Harper, Machado and Kershaw that would usually be on the list if they had an extra year of control.
DeGrom for sure. didn’t realize he has 3 years of control thought it was only 2
The Nats have Eaton, Harper, Taylor, Difo, Goodwin, Robles. Stevenson and Bautista, not to mention Turner being a CF option too. Why on earth do they want to kill their farm to only maybe slightly upgrade with Yelich? They are so far ahead of all their East rivals, they should just cruise until the August deadline then address any issues then. Let the problems happen first, because they might not. Eaton-Taylor-Harper-Goodwin is a great OF rotation, it’s not even a given that Yelich is for sure an upgrade over Taylor in 2018.
BC Yelich immediately becomes you 2nd best OF’er and good replacement if Harper leaves.
Fried, Newcomb, Pache, Markakis for Yelich and Prado.
Realmuto just seems like a complication, Suzuki and Flowers will do a lot more for a young rotation and were stupid great as a platoon last year. Just wait for Cumberland or Jackson.
Fried and Newcombe gone would leave a rotation of
with Wisler and Kazmir as possible swingmen till Allard and Soroka are ready.
but Inciarte/Albies/Freeman/Yelich/Suzuki/Acuna/Prado/Swanson looks like such a fun lineup.
Why would the Marlins make that trade? That’s an awful offer, even as a starting point. If the Braves had Christian Yelich and signed for 5 more years at a very low cost and were rebuilding, would you trade him and Prado for Fried, Newcomb Pache AND take on crap money from Markakis?
Go for Yelich. Don’t sell the farm away for a catcher. Flowers/Suzuki are good enough.
Cmon man, Yelich and Realmuto to the Nats??? not the rivals, whatever other team but not them.
If the Nationals don’t want to give up Robles OR Soto, then they can kick rocks. There’s no chance that they’d get either Realmuto or Yelich without one of those guys, and I’m not even a Marlins fan.
No kidding, it wont happen (Nats fan).
Realmuto could definitely be had if they give up Soto, If I were a betting man, Id say they aren’t interested.
I don’t think the Nats are making either untouchable… just that to trade one or both would require the Nats getting the type of players CY and JT are. I’d guess Nats are merely doing their due diligence and checking in on what it would take. Doubt they trade for one or both. Both would take Robles and a handful of other org top 10 guys. One would for sure take Soto. Just don’t see the Nats trading either guy.
The only way we get both is if the Fish still want to dump salary and will sacrifice value to do so. But it seems like they won’t do that, so it’s not going to happen
Doubt it happens either but thereotically, splitting them up between these two teams makes the most sense as far as getting Positional player depth and pitching depth. Could go something like this. I’ll probably get lit up for it but oh well.
Realmuto to the Nats for: Soto, Kieboom, and Daniel Johnson.
Yelich to the Braves for: Allard, Anderson, Newcomb OR Sims and Cumberland.
Instant no from me on that Realmuto one. A potential Realmuto deal if it happens from the Nats will be Soto and filler.
Hmm, i see. How good of a filler? You don’t think other teams, such as the A’s or Rockies would top that?
Lotto tickets, maybe a yasel Antuna or Luis Garcia…. This comes from a guy though who doesn’t really even want Soto for Realmuto.
Id rather have him ready to replace Harper long term or be dealt for SP later.
Lol fair enough, i get that. Probably going to cost more than that but as a fan i feel the pain of letting prospects go. Marlins always overpay when they’re “buyers”, i’d like to be on the other end of that for once.
I’d take that deal on Yelich as a Braves fan. I think AA would too. But I think the Marlins will want more.
For a true “overpay” they would, i agree, but if Yelich really doesn’t want to be a Marlin, i don’t think it would be a deal for either team. As a Marlins fan i would be “ok” with it. But if that Nats haul for JT is less than what i mentioned, then we need to try and pry more from the Braves if possible. I just don’t see the Braves trading Acuna or Albies for Yelich. Is Swanson a possibility? Not too impressed with him so far but he’s young so i doubt the Braves have given up on him.
I don’t think the previous regime would’ve traded Swanson but the current one might. However the Braves would be selling low on a guy with years left of control before arbitration, so I think the Marlins would have to be really high on him.
I think the Marlins might want Pache instead of Sims or Cumberland in that deal. He’s quite possibly another Yelich in the making.
I like Pache but i hate his lack of power. Yelich has more pop by far. We have Sierra now for future CF with speed and no power, don’t really want another one, albeit I like Pache more than Sierra for sure. Either way, i wouldn’t be upset about it if it was instead of Cumberland or Sims.
Sierra is probably better suited as a 4th OF, so Pache would be an upgrade, but yes, if both are forced to start that is a lack of power that is concerning.
I doubt the Nats trade Soto and merely are just checking in on Realmuto…however, if they deal Soto they will not also include Johnson. Agree with wadlez, would be Soto plus Antuna and then some low ball youngsters.
I don’t think Soto and Antuna and a couple of high ceiling young guys would be a horrible trade. I just think it would get beat by someone more desperate.
Possibly…just not sure there are teams that are desperate to add a catcher. I personally don’t think Realmuto will get dealt. Teams rarely spend big for catchers in FA and it is unlikely a team will empty the farm for Realmuto. If he were a Contreras defensively and Sanchez offensively then sure he’d get an insane haul, but being pretty good defensively, and really good offensively isn’t as enticing. I think he is worth more than what I said but the market for catchers seems to be tepid typically.
I personally think he is worth more to the Marlins if they don’t get a huge haul since he could be team leader and help the young SPs they will get in the Yelich trade.
Can’t argue with that.
Thats a good one. Ha Ha.
As much as I like the idea of having them both, I love the crop of pitching depth for the long haul and we have one more year to have a ton of money fall off the books for free agency. Don’t let Allard or Soroka get away and Acuna is paved in.
Astros send Tucker/Paulino/Reed/Kemp/Stassi/Bukaskis for both- Reed/Kemp/Stassi start now and the others give them legit prospects, and the Astros go back to back
Kyle Barraclough and Realmuto for Soto, Raudy Read, and Kieboom
Good start, but need one more good asset for both.
So could we do a:
Yelich, J.T. , Prado
Newcomb, Anderson, Wright, Pache, Wentz/Muller, Alex Jackson?
Braves keep: Soroka, Wilson, Allard, Fried, Gohora, Albies, Acuna
Basically have position players set for the next 5 years. Plus rotation pieces.
sub Gohara or Soroka for Newcombe and Fried for Pache.
Both will likely take a headliner of one of Acuna, Albies or Allard. Then it would need Gohara, Jackson, Fried, plus a couple others from your list.
The Marlins more than likely won’t make this deal without Albies or Acuna, Allard, plus another 1 or 2 arms. They won’t settle for anything less because they don’t have to trade them. And I don’t think the Braves are interested in giving that much up. If you believe Albies and Acuna will lead this rebuild you have every right too they look like good everyday players, but with Yelich you KNOW he will the minute you get him. So it depends on what part of the rebuild the Braves see themselves in.
Riley, Jackson, Wright
Which brings me to my next point. Don’t do Drugs.
The Braves should not part with Acuna. I realize he is “only” a prospect, but potential 30/30 guys don’t grow on trees.
Soto, Fedde, Michael A. Taylor, and a low level pitcher might do it
Soto and Fedde would be decent the starting point for Yelich or Realmutto not both
I love MLB fans, they act like GM’s of their teams and automatically assume they know what it would take to get who in terms of prospects/players. Look around baseball especially this offseason. Most players playing at premium positions are being let go for way less than what people think.
Would like to see the braves go after both but I just can’t imagine giving up the haul that I would think they would ask for. I’ve always said marlins Mgmt is dumb, maybe new mgmt is just as dumb and the braves can get a steal
Marlins are looking for right hand power bats for Yelich and Realmuto. GI’ve them Swanson, Riley, Alex Jackson, Teheran, Sims, swap Flowers and Prado contracts. Next offseason get Josh Donaldson and have Camargo play SS
It’s an over pay that is palatable.
I don’t think that package would interest the Marlins. Swap out Teheran for Gohara or something and it would get them close. Would probably have to throw in Pache as well. But the massive amount of prospects it would take is why the Braves (or any team for that matter) won’t get both.
Trade with Fish=============Pache,I.Anderson,Markakis,Allard and Jackson FOR Realmuto,Zeigler and Tazawa, Trade with Cubs—————-Sims,Muller,Peterson FOR Happ. Sign Darvish (6yrs.-250 mil. ,,,Backload contract) LINEUP////Inciarte,Albies,Freeman,Happ,Acuna,Realmuto,Camargo,Swanson. ROTATION========Darvish,Gohara,Teheran,Newcombe,Folty
TRADE with Balt.==================Teheran,Markakis,Allard and Suzuki FOR Cisco,Santander and T.Scott. Sign T.Frazier(2yrs.-28mil.) Sign A.Cashner