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NL East Notes: Mets, Acuna, Marlins

By Mark Polishuk | January 27, 2018 at 3:21pm CDT

Some items from around the NL East…

  • The slowed free agent market could benefit a team with seemingly limited payroll space like the Mets, Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News writes.  If price tags fall due to the lack of movement, players like Jonathan Lucroy, Lance Lynn, or Alex Cobb could emerge on the Mets’ radar, especially if the team is willing to get “creative” with offers.  For Mike Moustakas, for instance, Ackert wonders if the Mets could offer the third baseman a contract with an opt-out after the first season if Moustakas wanted to quickly test the market again; New York made a similar deal with Yoenis Cespedes two years ago.
  • The Mets’ methods of dealing with injured players has been a source of controversy for years, and while the club has made new hires in its medical department this winter, Ken Davidoff of the New York Post reports that ownership “micromanagement” and hyper-competitiveness will have to be curtailed in order for progress to be made.  In particular, COO Jeff Wilpon is “more involved in medical matters — such as working on media releases about injuries.”
  • As you might expect, rival teams have been coveting Braves outfield prospect Ronald Acuna, with the Marlins most recently asking for Acuna in as part of a Christian Yelich trade package.  Braves GM Alex Anthopoulos told reporters (including Gabriel Burns of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution) that the team might still consider an outfield move “but [one] that’s not as big because we don’t want to block Acuna” in 2018.  Arguably the top prospect all of baseball, Acuna is expected to debut in Atlanta’s outfield as early as Opening Day.
  • The Marlins could be an attractive destination for lower-tier free agents who are still trying to find a new team, the New York Post’s Joel Sherman writes, given their lack of big league-ready talent.  Signing a couple of notable veterans to reasonable contracts would help the Marlins on several fronts, Sherman argues — the team could gain some trade deadline chips, add veteran leadership to a young roster, and alleviate criticism from the players’ union about a lack of spending.
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  1. reflect

    7 years ago

    An opt out contract for Moose would be a terrible idea. It would turn into a lose lose situation on the remaining years.

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  2. Travis’ Wood

    7 years ago

    Zero percent chance Acuna is on the opening day roster. They’re obviously gonna leave him in the minors for a bit to gain the extra year of control.

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    • realgone2

      7 years ago

      I’d tend to agree unless he just blisters spring training

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      • chrisones

        7 years ago

        No way he’s on the opening day roster. Anthropolus doesn’t want Jason Heyward 2.0 on this team. Acuna need to learn continued consistency and success against higher level pitching. Period.

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  3. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    I don’t see any reason to rush Acuna let him develop at AAA until we move Markakis closer to the deadline.
    With the question marks in the Brewers rotation I wonder what it would take for the Braves to get Santana or Brett Phillips. Maybe Frazier from the Yankees or Castellanos from Detroit.
    Whoever it is but I just hope the offseason isn’t over still a lot of holes.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      You suggested the Yanks and Frazier th the AL East thread. Sorry but na

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      • albearrrr

        7 years ago

        Why not?

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    • bravesiowafan

      7 years ago

      We don’t want Phillips and his .400 bibp or Santana and his 37% k rate. If we empty any part of our farm it better be for a quality player we don’t have much room for misses after the penalties.

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      • TradeAcuna

        7 years ago

        I’m with you. Why bother trading depth for guys like what the Brewers are offering. None of them are appealing at all and it is mind boggling how fans still want Santana and Broxton.

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        • steelerbravenation

          7 years ago

          Don’t want Broxton but 31 HRs hitting behind Freeman is a necessity and Santana provides that. I just don’t think we have the win now players the Brewers need.

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        • TradeAcuna

          7 years ago

          Kemp can also hit 31 homeruns, but like Kemp, Santana will be a liability defensively. Other than money committed of course, in terms of team improvement, i just don’t see it with Santana. Besides, I’m not sold on Santana yet.

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        • 24TheKid

          7 years ago

          Kemp is on the Dodgers.

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        • RunDMC

          7 years ago

          He’s got a nice bat, but glove isn’t good. AA values defense more than that. ATL could do well in bidding for either Donaldson (previous ties with AA and Auburn) and Machado, while possibly shifting Riley to OF if his bad is ready. Yes, Donaldson is a little bit older, but he blossomed later, so in theory there shouldn’t be as much mileage (didn’t get more than 300 PA in a season until age-27 season) on him than other players that have been regulars at age 23-26.

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        • LongTimeFan1

          7 years ago

          Donaldson wants to stay with Blue Jays and Machado is returning to shortstop..

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        • Priggs89

          7 years ago

          You do realize that he played in the minors too, right? He has had well over 300 plate appearances every year since 2008…

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        • chrisones

          7 years ago

          It’s a shame that we have a long term shortstop that has a proven track record and we know for a fact is better then Manny Machado.

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        • elmore80

          7 years ago

          Yep, just spend 200-300 mil on 1 player and wait a year at that Does anybody care about winning any. more? Atlanta Braves Closed for renovations for 4 yrs but check out our # 1 farm System.

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    • yankeesfan5891

      7 years ago

      Agreed on Frazier. But only for a ML starter like Newcomb or Gohara. That Collin guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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      • TradeAcuna

        7 years ago

        Hell, I’d trade Teheran for Frazier and others if they want him.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          7 years ago

          Tehran for fraizer lmaoooo

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          The hits just keep on coming with these guys. No one wants the trash they’ve offered…

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        • TradeAcuna

          7 years ago

          what part of Teheran for Frazier is funny to you?

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        • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

          7 years ago

          I’m low on Frasier but Tehran is just not good right now thank who you thinks he’s actually going to be better than Jordan Montgomery this year and if so would be by a little

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        • Ichiro51

          7 years ago

          Teheran is trash. C’mon man at least be realistic and fair when saying stuff like this.

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        • chrisones

          7 years ago

          Teheran has a hell of a lot more trade value then you think he does. But maybe you’re right, maybe MLB front offices don’t have access to home/road split stats.

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        • bravesiowafan

          7 years ago

          Teheran def is a piece that can pull Frazier and Teheran has the value of a #3 starter guy. He had a down year he has a track record and advance stats that show last year had a lot of bad luck. I don’t know how you can down play Julio and say he is trash pitching cost a ton in today’s market. He is proven Frazer isn’t. Sober up ppl. Nobody here is claiming Tehran is an ace or #2 but that he easily as a pitcher in today’s market on a friendly contract has value. Period

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      • Bocephus

        7 years ago

        FYI fan5891 I was referring to in the AL East thread where he was suggesting the Yanks sign Brandon Phillips and trade Frazier and Robertson for Julio & Vizzy. This was met with negativity from fellow Yankees fans. So welcome to what I was talking about. *if only*

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      7 years ago

      almost player has at least 4 plus years of control I don’t think the brave should Target them because they’re not contending this year they’ll be marginal contenders in 2019 but really it’s 20/20 and on that they will be a great team people with two or three years of control don’t really fit the timetable

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  4. Tristin

    7 years ago

    Under the radar acquisition target for the Braves: Jake Marisnick.

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    • jb19

      7 years ago

      Send an offer! But I think Cameron Maybin ona 1 yr deal makes more sense.

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      • AffixTomahawks

        7 years ago

        How about ichiro for one year at 5mil. He would be one heck of a mentor for the kids coming up, and they would have the best example of what it takes to perform and be successful at the highest levels of the game.

        Also, always been a huge fan of his. Would love to have him for a season to see him play at Sun trust.

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        • aff10

          7 years ago

          He’s bad though, not worth a roster spot probably and definitely not worth $5M

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        • southi

          7 years ago

          I’m a fan of Ichiro too and he has held on way too long. Definitely don’t think the Braves should be interested in wasting a roster spot with him.

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      • elmore80

        7 years ago

        Yes I would love Cameron Maybin as a platoon with Markakis until RC arrives then use as 4th oulfielder. Still need somebody to hit behind FF.

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    • steelerbravenation

      7 years ago

      That is interesting I wonder what that would cost.

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    • calibearwaltzer

      7 years ago

      Astros won’t trade him. Valuable to them as a 4th outfielder and defensive replacement in close and late innings. Unless they’re getting someone to upgrade their major league roster I dont see it.

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      • RunDMC

        7 years ago

        Vizcaino could interest HOU (2 years of control). Yes, he is arb-eligible, but can be a dominant late-inning arm with closing experience and ability. He would provide insurance for Giles.

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        • Zach725

          7 years ago

          Trading Viz doesn’t make since for the braves. They don’t have many other late inning options right now.

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  5. The Oregonian

    7 years ago

    Since the Marlins are tanking anyway and have a plethora of roster spots available, please give Ichiro one last year.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      How about the Giants.

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    • reflect

      7 years ago

      Jeter would need to take out a payday loan to afford someone like ichiro.

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    • calibearwaltzer

      7 years ago

      As an Astros fan, I doubt we would want to move him. He has good value as a 4th outfielder and defensive replacement in late innings. Plus he’s Springer’s best friend. Braves could just sign Maybin or a guy like Dyson.

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    • AffixTomahawks

      7 years ago

      Ichiro to braves. rub some hall of fame ju-ju on Acuna. 🙂

      Reply
  6. TradeAcuna

    7 years ago

    Give me a break. If they actually cared about improving, they would have traded for Yelich, w/o Acuna involved. But that would be a mistake though because AA wants to keep the “best farm system” moniker and delusional fans love it too!

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    • FreeTheFreeman

      7 years ago

      Who would they have included to match the Brewers package? Keeping in mind that position prospects are more valuable than pitching.

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      • TradeAcuna

        7 years ago

        You say that like the Brewers actually gave up prospects that are of quality. The Braves have major league ready and close to ready pitching prospects, as well as positional prospects like Riley and Pache. If they cared enough to compete, they would have made the move for Yelich. Yelich is the kind of player any team would be content with if their prospect ultimately becomes a player of his caliber.

        Anyways, i still believe Todd Frazier is a good option for third base short term.

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        • Priggs89

          7 years ago

          Yah, Brinson and Harrison are terrible prospects. It’s not like BA just put Brinson at 18 and Harrison at 75 in their top 100… Bunch of garbage.

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        • RunDMC

          7 years ago

          MIL was in a better spot to make the kind of trade MIA was wanting. Yes, ATL has a lot of pitching, but Acuna is too good, and Pache’s isn’t high enough for them to build a package around, even if the arms going back are much better than the little MIL sent their way. Obviously, they needed a MLB-ready OF to take Yelich’s spot, and Brinson is in a much better spot than anyone ATL was offering (presuming that Acuna was off-the-table – as he should have been). I like Yelich, but I’m not dwelling on it.

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        • TradeAcuna

          7 years ago

          That is a fair point to make in reference to the Brewers being more in position to go after Yelich, however, players like Yelich are not made available often. One reason you build a strong system is to make trades for big players. Yelich is that player and the prospects they have, are enough to make a trade for Yelich. I’m sure the Marlins took the trade from the Brewers because the Brewers were willing to give up their top prospect, not necessarily that they were looking to acquire an outfielder. The Braves were reluctant to give up pitching to their division rival.

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      7 years ago

      and then where would you have been with a not right farm system and a team that still has no chance of competing this year great job. you guys have a lot of great pitching and if you develop at all you’ll be able to make a good staff but since half the guys will flame out you need all the guys you have

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  7. jb19

    7 years ago

    Have the marlins shown any indication that they are going to sign any ML contracts? They are still chipping away at that $90MM payroll goal.

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  8. steelerbravenation

    7 years ago

    The only position player comparable to Brinson is Acuna and no way AA was moving him as a rebuilding team. And the SP the Brewers are looking for are not prospects on the cusp. They took the package with the best overall ranked prospect.

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      7 years ago

      that makes sense but the bridge could have beat that offer if they wanted without Acuna now I think they did the absolute right thing by not doing it because they’re not contenders right now

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  9. DXC

    7 years ago

    “ownership micromanagement and hyper-competitiveness ”

    No, it’s cheapness. Wilpons’ don’t like paying a salary even for guys that play, let alone for guys that don’t (same reason they won’t release guys with major contracts, don’t eat salary on trades and won’t buyout David Wright).

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  10. takeyourbase

    7 years ago

    I know everyone is on the bash Jeter and Co bandwagon but the MLBPA criticizing a team that’s going to loose money in the upcoming year is a flat out joke. It’s their team they should be able to do as they see fit.

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    • takeyourbase

      7 years ago

      Lose*

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      • brucewayne

        7 years ago

        The Marlins are gonna profit almost $90 million dollars this year! Not lose!

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    • Out of place Met fan

      7 years ago

      Yes a team or any business should be run as the owner’s see fit. But when the subsidies are greater than expenses there will be a lot of valid criticism

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    • philfish2010

      7 years ago

      I agree with you. Their team, leave em alone.

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      7 years ago

      yeah we should just let the teams do whatever they want let’s not have any oversight at all that’s a great idea! they had a concern and voiced it. let system work as intended

      Reply
  11. justin-turner overdrive

    7 years ago

    Acuna is ready-now and there’s already young core in front of him, like Albies and Swanson, and behind him too, in their massively deep farm. They should announce him as the Opening Day OF of Markakis-Incriarte-Acuna asap

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    • TradeAcuna

      7 years ago

      Psssh,

      How about Yelich, Inciarte, Acuna trio.

      Make it happen Coppy!

      Uhh

      Make it happen AA!

      Uhh

      Screw winning – – Braves and Co.

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      • realgone2

        7 years ago

        It’s too early in the morning for me to be reading such dumb posts.

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        • elmore80

          7 years ago

          Go back to bed then!

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      • soggycereal

        7 years ago

        shut up, i haven’t had my coffee yet

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      7 years ago

      and lose an extra year of control that would be stupid

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      • kbarr888

        7 years ago

        They could keep him in the minors for a few short weeks and gain an entire year of control.

        Bet The House On It!!!

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      • realgone2

        7 years ago

        It’s only a few weeks to get that extra time correct?

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  12. Herb G 2

    7 years ago

    The opt out you suggest for Moose is unrealistic. The last think he wants, or needs, is to re-enter a free agent market with Machado and Donaldson, Murphy and Dozier, and even an aging Adrian Beltre with his .915 OPS last year, A smart GM gives Moose an opt out after 2 years. Notwithstanding that fact, I really don’t want the Mets to go after him. I would much prefer Frazier’s glove in the field and his rah-rah presence in the clubhouse. and If I sacrifice a little at the plate, which I am doubtful of, so be it.

    I would be ecstatic, however, if they were able to land Lynn or Cobb, as that would strengthen both the rotation AND the bull pen, by moving Wheeler to the pen. (I don’t like the idea of giving up that #6 draft pick in the 2nd round. For that reason, I am on the fence about bringing in a Holland on one of those bargain deals..)

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    • jamesalba32

      7 years ago

      Moose in my opinion is the better glove in comparison to Frazier. Both of them possess a firey leadship quality. Frazier is a local guy which i enjoy, but outside of that i believe Moose is the all around better player. If they could give him a 4 year/56mil deal with an opt out after 2019 I’d be all for it.

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  13. bravesfan

    7 years ago

    Acuna is the top prospect in all of baseball, the kid from japan played professionally. So he shouldn’t be considered

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