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Latest On Eric Hosmer

By Steve Adams | February 12, 2018 at 2:14pm CDT

The Padres and agent Scott Boras have “engaged in regular dialogue” regarding Eric Hosmer over the past few days, reports Dennis Lin of The Athletic. That’s a change from recent weeks, per Lin, when neither side was showing much in the way of urgency.

Lin goes on to report that both the Padres and the Royals have “suggested flexibility” beyond their initial seven-year bids, though it’s not clear whether that’s in reference to annual value, length of contract, inclusion of opt-out provisions or some combination of the above. As he has in the past, Lin notes that the Padres’ offer to Hosmer was for less than $140MM in total. Regardless, it still seems as if the Hosmer market is a two-horse race for the time being, barring the emergence of a surprise suitor as Spring Training kicks off in both Arizona and Florida.

As for the other horse in that race, the Royals are remaining fairly quiet on the subject. The Kansas City Star’s Rustin Dodd writes that he asked GM Dayton Moore about the matter, and while Moore confirmed that he remains in touch with Boras, he declined to delve into any further specifics. “I’ve been fairly transparent throughout this process,” Moore told Dodd. “At this point, we just have to let it play out.” The GM did note in a radio appearance with 810 AM’s The Program last week that Hosmer “is the player that fits us for the future.”

Yahoo’s Jeff Passan, though, wrote recently that Hosmer’s camp has been holding out to try to extract a nine-year deal from the Royals. Even if that may be a mere negotiation tactic to “settle” on a midpoint of eight years (that’s my own speculation, to be clear), a seven-year offer doesn’t seem likely to suffice at present. If the Padres and Royals do have some willingness for “flexibility” in their offers, as Lin suggested, then perhaps the first team to push its offer forward by another year will secure a deal.

With Spring Training kicking off this week, Boras/Hosmer can also hold out a bit longer to see if injuries create any new opportunities. After all, they do have the luxury of knowing that the Padres and Royals, two clubs that are interested in Hosmer despite their status as rebuilding/retooling organizations, aren’t likely to spend that money elsewhere or add a more affordable first baseman because their interest is more in Hosmer himself than in upgrading at the position. However, if Spring Training wears on and no obvious alternative emerges, one has to imagine that the current seven-year proposals would hold increasing appeal.

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  1. Mark Z

    7 years ago

    The Padres and agent Scott Boras have “engaged in regular dialogue” with agent Scott Boras . Sweet grammar.

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    • BusterMove

      7 years ago

      with agent Scott Boras . <- you’re gonna have to be perfect in your punctuation if you’re gonna criticize others for their mistakes. Glass houses and whatnot.

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    • rickc1975

      7 years ago

      My whole life I’ve been waiting to find that one individual in the entire world who has never made a mistake. Mark Z is that guy. Mark, thank you so much for this brilliant insight

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      • Dodgethis

        7 years ago

        Mark failed at grammar correction. Why praise him?

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        • yoyo137

          7 years ago

          He’s not… it’s sarcasm if you can’t tell

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    • RedFeather

      7 years ago

      Andy Grammar…

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      • badco44

        7 years ago

        Should be a grammar trade rumors for all the “ who cares” bozos!

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        • InPolesWeTrust

          7 years ago

          Guys like to feel good about themselves correcting someone’s grammar! Neat, must be a hit at all the parties….

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      • donmoney

        7 years ago

        Wouldnt it be Kelsey Grammar

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          Poll Question:

          Would you be in favor of suspending the accounts of the “grammar” police?

          I doubt I’m in the minority here. Other than humorous mistakes, do people really care?

          As for the article, my guess is both would consider including opt outs, a Boras recent perk that in most cases seems to have become less significant in the negotiating climate of today.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Giving Hosmer an opt out wouldn’t make sense for the Padres. The idea with signing Hosmer is he will still be around and still be good when they are finally contending, at least in theory. If he has an opt out only one of those things will still be true.

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        • davbee

          7 years ago

          I’d rather suspend the accounts of whiners.

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        • elscorchot

          7 years ago

          Haha

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          That too and as for the Padres putting in an opt out, with the situation ongoing how many would actually opt out? Tanaka staying put this year is likely only the beginning. If Price opts out n in November it won’t be to get more money.

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        • TJECK109

          7 years ago

          That would eliminate 90% of the posters

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Then why give him one? It eliminates the upside of him being able to sustain his 2017 output and us having him signed into our contending years at below market value, which is exactly what Preller and Co. want to happen.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          The market seems to finally be correcting. He’s good but not great and the days of the superstar’ s contract raising everyone else’s seems to finally ending. With the class of 2018, he’ll have to be MVP like to think a better deal awaits him.

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Worry about opt outs when guys can’t get signed what’s Hosmer going to do opt out at 30 something not likely

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          policing speech is not a good answer…

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          I believe this is a going to be a one year blip instead of a lasting correction. Imho these players are not signing for big money because 1) two of the biggest spenders in free agency (Dodgers and Yankees) are resetting their tax this year. 2) Teams who are spenders (Angels, Rangers, Giants, and Nationals) are avoiding the luxury tax so they don’t receive escalating penalties next year in signing players out of that terrific free agent class. 3) The Tigers are rebuilding. 4) Several mid-market teams (Mariners, Rockies, and Indians) have maxed out their payroll. 5) The Red Sox are currently at $201 million. If they were to give JDM the $30m AAV he is looking for, they would only have $6m left for deadline acquisitions and bonuses. If they break $237m their tax goes up under the new rules and their top draft pick will fall 10 slots. JDM is excellent with the bat but I don’t think he is worth $58.5 million a season.

          Those 5 things plus a few other teams in full rebuild, plenty of top talent available in trades and a few teams already having a well constructed roster are the driving forces in this off season. I suspect, next year when the Dodgers and Yankees open the checkbook again things will return to normal.

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        • Jakeboykin

          7 years ago

          Yup im all for getting rid of the grammer police.

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    • msjrn509

      7 years ago

      That will make Padres record 65-97

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      • Ryan W

        7 years ago

        They’ll get worse?

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    • claude raymond

      7 years ago

      Funny thing. The writer’s mistake was NOT a grammar mistake.

      EVERY poster missed a bigger chance to ridicule Markz. Though it wasn’t necessary given what a mental defective he obviously is.

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    • thecoffinnail

      7 years ago

      Might I suggest that you head over to Wikipedia and use your super grammar skills to correct the millions of mistakes on their site? Anyone can setup an account and edit their pages. Some of them (especially, the pages involving sports and athletes) are absolutely dreadful with their grammar. It would make your day fun, exciting and keep you from being ridiculed by your fellow commenters. Sites like this one the articles will be sparsely read after a day or two anyway. You could actually provide a service for people instead of trying to embarrass a writer that has to publish 10+/- articles a day.

      Just my 2 cents…

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  2. lowtalker1

    7 years ago

    Less money for more years? Or maybe a club option for an 8th ?

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  3. fasbal1

    7 years ago

    It’s a 2 horse race the Padres and Padres…

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    • go_jays_go

      7 years ago

      it reminds me of the Orioles outbidding themselves to sign Chris Davis. #BorasMagic

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      • qbass187

        7 years ago

        To be fair that’s what’s called “Duke Magic”

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          That stupid signing is 100% on Angelos.

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    • thetruth 2

      7 years ago

      “Who is dumber?” Winner signs Hosmer.

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  4. gofish 2

    7 years ago

    Boras and Hosmer are now asking for a 25-year contract, hoping to get paid long into the future like Bobby Bonilla.

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    • kahnkobra

      7 years ago

      and Sherzer and a bunch of other players

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    • majorflaw

      7 years ago

      I realize that Bobby Bo is used as an example of ownership stupidity but Bonilla was an indirect beneficiary of the Mets then current arrangement with Bernie Madoff. Although it sounds odd to say that continuing to pay out his contract with interest at ~9% was a good move at the time, they were making ~20% return from Madoff and hence were earning ~11% on the transaction. IOW, the Mets mistake wasn’t restructuring the payout of Bonilla’s contract but expecting that they would be able to pay it with Madoff generated funds.

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  5. Jay_I

    7 years ago

    Scott Boras has spoke with Scott Boras and Scott Boras “engaged in regular dialogue” with Scott Boras to extract a nine-year deal from the Royals.

    I fixed it for you.

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    • realgone2

      7 years ago

      A “Noine” year deal

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      • ReverieDays

        7 years ago

        baba booey

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      • InPolesWeTrust

        7 years ago

        Hi Fred….

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      • InPolesWeTrust

        7 years ago

        Sour? Is that you? Sour?

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    • lowtalker1

      7 years ago

      Easy there Rickey Henderson

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  6. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    7 years ago

    Whichever team loses this competition will win it.

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      You are correct. I will say that Hosmer could help the beleaguered Cubs injury in the very likely event of an injury.

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      • MC Tim C

        7 years ago

        Huh?

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        • yankeeaddiction

          7 years ago

          Advanced metric medical stats show that based on history, past performance and league/averages trends that the Cubs are highly likely to have a long term injury to an infielder in 2018.

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        • liamsfg

          7 years ago

          Seems intangible to me.

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        • Travis’ Wood

          7 years ago

          Advanced metric medical stats? Lol wtf

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          Like the old movie reviewers Siskel and Ebert, I give the medical stats comment two thumbs up.

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        • ncaachampillini

          7 years ago

          Based on history, past performance and average trends yankee addiction says something stupid every 14 minutes…

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          I don’t know him from other posts but I thought he was sarcastic and I laughed as I’m old school. Too many saber stats are ruining the game.

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        • wrigleywannabe

          7 years ago

          Do your advanced metrics tell you Hosmer plays first and only first?

          I will translate for you. He would only help if Rizzo was injured.

          That and the Cubs have other players they could sfoft there

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  7. realgone2

    7 years ago

    Aren’t the Padres rebuilding?

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      They are supposed to be but are doing what every team should do. They see a guy in Hosmer they like, who is young enough to be part of a rebuild. He is supposed to be a good clubhouse guy and is really a guy any rebuilding team with the ability to afford him would like to have.

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      • ncaachampillini

        7 years ago

        Wow it’s a Festivus Miracle! First post this winter where yankee addiction didn’t find a way to slip in some utterly stupid nonsensical comment about the Cubs. Granted 2 minutes earlier up above he did as normal but this is a first! He’s slipping ladies and gentlemen!

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        They’re rebuilding and they’re are getting close to start climbing up the standings
        Not in 2018 but in 2019 you should see the noticeable climb

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        “Good clubhouse guy” since when is that such a big deal

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          hurrrrr da durrrrr
          *fart noises*

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        • thetruth 2

          7 years ago

          Since Boras became his agent.

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      • Ryan W

        7 years ago

        This is also potentially a “buy low” year for a guy like Hosmer. Peeler has been very vocal about the “markets”. I would imagine that’s part of his thought process with this idea.

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    • rez2405 2

      7 years ago

      Well in the padres case.. you can’t call it a rebuild if youre always rebuilding

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        They aren’t always rebuilding. Their rebuild didn’t start until June 4th, 2016 (the day James Shields was traded to the Chicago White Sox)

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        • Cashford64

          7 years ago

          You can’t call it a REbuild if they were never built properly to begin with.

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  8. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    7 years ago

    What is Boras on the verge of caving?

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  9. Disco Dave

    7 years ago

    enjoy spring training at the boras camp, hosmer

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  10. sufferforsnakes

    7 years ago

    Yawn…..

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    • wrigleywannabe

      7 years ago

      burp

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  11. redshirttheory

    7 years ago

    Hoz doesn’t have the pop to homer consistently at Petco Park. Royals should low ball offer resulting in Hoz picking San Diego. Then when he turns around and has a mediocre year they will look like they dodged a bullet. Hoz line will be 270, <15HR, 60-70 RBIs. not worth 20 mill for 7-8 years.

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    • realgone2

      7 years ago

      Agreed

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    • bastros88

      7 years ago

      that’s just about what Carlos Santana can do, if not better, so why not

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      Take a look at park factors. Kauffmann Stadium is very similar. espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/sort/HRFactor

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    • lowtalker1

      7 years ago

      There is more to baseball than hitting homeruns
      Doubles are king and they will play quite well in sf petco and az

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    • axisofhonor25

      7 years ago

      Decent LD% at 22% last year. May not give you the homers maybe 15-20 bu the RBI output should be decent enough if some of the those balls fall for base hits. But of course that’s all dependent on who’s in front of him. Would he go before or after Myers? Spangengerg and Morgot more than likely 1 and 2 hitters. Lot of speed with them but the wall rate is subject. Might have more runs than RBI of Hosmer goes before Myers. Suggestions?

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      • axisofhonor25

        7 years ago

        *Spangenberg, *Walk rate

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    • redshirttheory

      7 years ago

      Here was my prediction 270, <15HR, 60-70 RBIs

      right now Hosmer is on pace for 17 HR, 70 RBIs and is hitting 249

      I said royals would dodge a bullet if they didn't sign him. This article reminded me of my comment – royalsreview.com/2018/7/19/17565460/the-padres-res…

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      • NOT Mickey Koke

        7 years ago

        To judge him based on basically one bad month is laughable.

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  12. Coast1

    7 years ago

    Scott Boras believes that any team that will give Hosmer a 7 year deal at the right AAV, but not a 9 year deal means the team isn’t trying to win and it’s evidence of collusion.

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  13. greg 14

    7 years ago

    or maybe Boras is making it up to put pressure on both teams, and the internet media is just being played.

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  14. Yankeepatriot

    7 years ago

    No reason for the pads to not wait out Hosmer

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  15. bbatardo

    7 years ago

    If he wants 8 years just offer a less average annual salary amount.. not that the Padres or Royals would ever get close to Luxury tax threshold, could help if they ever have to trade him lol

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    • Kris Higdon

      7 years ago

      I agree. I would say 8 at $130 or 7 at $147. If the years go up, the AAV, opt-out, no-trade etc., go away.

      To be real creative say 5 years with opt-out after 3 with 3 years of easily obtainable options based on PA’s for the post-opt-out years where all 3 options best at once. Tack on 2 team options at $35/yr.

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      • outinleftfield

        7 years ago

        8/154 to the Royals. They have already offered 7/147, so that is not much more total and less AAV. They should be in the hunt for a playoff spot by year 4 or 5.

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  16. sandman12

    7 years ago

    Justin Bour to San Diego in a trade.
    Logan Morrison to KC on 2-year $17M contract
    Eric Hosmer to a broadcast booth

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    • lord vincent

      7 years ago

      Sounds good to me!

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  17. kbarr888

    7 years ago

    You heard it here first….. here’s what’s coming……

    “Padres to sign Eric Hosmer to a 3 yr/$78 Million contract, with an opt-out after 2019, amd a Full No-Trade Clause”

    $23 Mil in 2018
    $25 Mil in 2019
    $30 Mil in 2020

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    • alexgordonbeckham

      7 years ago

      Why would the Padres do that deal?

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    • Cam

      7 years ago

      Makes no sense – the Padres can’t really utilize him to compete in the first few years, as they flat out suck.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      7 years ago

      First… and last.

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  18. yankeeaddiction

    7 years ago

    It is a fact that at a certain time the game passes everyone by and I think we are seeing that with Scott Boras. Too many teams have been burned on long term free agent contracts. You will never see a 9 year free agent contract again. You will only see 8 + year contracts in the form of extensions buying out arbitration years and Boras does not seem to understand this. Mark my words- this free agent market will impact next years banner crop. What if every team stands firm again and Machado and Harper dont get anying beyond 8 years? I really think the days of teams paying 30 million a year to 36 and 37 year old players is over.

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    • bonquisha

      7 years ago

      Then someone goes 9 yrs to get a generational talent.

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    • Kris Higdon

      7 years ago

      There will be 2 9+ contracts next offseason

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    • Cubguy13

      7 years ago

      While teams are clearly trying to avoid long term deals with pitchers over 30 and some position players who may not be worth it, I do think that teams will offer up to 10 year contracts for the likes of Harper and Machado next offseason.

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      • liamsfg

        7 years ago

        Teams only offer those contracts to outbid other teams now.

        They figure, we want to win now and will have to pay for it at the back end of the contract.

        Nobody can realistically expect guys to still perform in years 8-10. I think it should be like the NBA where deals can’t exceed a certain amount of time. In this case, 7 years.

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      7 years ago

      Due to their ages, they will get nine or ten years. What may finally happen is the years may be front loaded matching their likely production. The next PA contract should also change giving teams the option of using actual figures instead of AYV to determine tax threshold implications. By doing so, players will be easier to trade down the road if contracts become front loaded.

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    • sandman12

      7 years ago

      Arrieta’s WAR (1.8) was half of the Darvish WAR for last season. Does that mean he’ll get half the contract?

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      • wrigleywannabe

        7 years ago

        And Chatwood was 1 higher than Lackey.

        Lost on all the hubbub was the Cubs gained three wins and saved money.

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  19. Paul Heyman

    7 years ago

    John Cena.

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      Sami Zayn

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      • sandiegorocker1104

        7 years ago

        AJ Styles

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  20. Paul Heyman

    7 years ago

    Brock Lesnar

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      Kevin Owens

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      • sandiegorocker1104

        7 years ago

        Goldberg

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        • elscorchot

          7 years ago

          Stone cold Steve Austin

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  21. JoeyPankake

    7 years ago

    I hope both of these teams sign Morrison and Duda and don’t get stuck with an albatross of a contract for a very average player in Hosmer.

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      I hope the Cubs sign Hosmer so they can trade Rizzo. Of him and Bryant, one has to go.

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      • Cam

        7 years ago

        Trolling is meant to be funny, or induce bites. This is just stupid.

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      • Cachhubguy

        7 years ago

        The Cubs will extend Rizzo over the next 2 years.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          No they won’t.

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        • wrigleywannabe

          7 years ago

          yes, they will

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          You mean like how they would extend Chapman and Arrieta?

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        • The Human Toilet

          7 years ago

          If not then Rizzo will extend the Cubs

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          Nope

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      • John peterson

        7 years ago

        I still can’t figure out why a yankee fan is so obsessed with the cubs…Us cub fans could care less about the yankee’s. Why are you so annoying? Worry about stanton and lurch striking out 500 times between them, not the the cubs team.

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    • alexgordonbeckham

      7 years ago

      I hope so too. That’d be awesome. Neither team should feel bad about missing out on signing this guy to a 7-8 year deal worth ~$20 mill per year.

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  22. gmenfan

    7 years ago

    Please, dear God, make this off-season stop.

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      7 years ago

      Wait… you’re saying that the offseason actually started at some point???

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  23. Cam

    7 years ago

    7 or 8 years for Hosmer is just….mind bogglingly crazy.

    One of the Padres or Royals are going to be incredibly fortunate to not get saddled with him.

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    • seamaholic 2

      7 years ago

      Hosmer’s the only guy in the market you SHOULD give a long contract to, because of his age. That’s a given. It’s the annual value of the deal that is in dispute.

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      • Cam

        7 years ago

        Being young isn’t enough reason to give someone a long term contract. The problem with Hosmer is that he’s not very good.

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      • TheIncident

        7 years ago

        Yeah, people keep screaming that Hosmer is over-rated that I think he’s actually swung to being slightly under-rated. Giving a 28 year-old 4.0 WAR player a 7 year deal for less than $20m/year seems reasonable.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          In 7 full seasons he’s only had a WAR at or above 4.0 once. He’s only had a WAR at or above 3.0 thrice. Seems to only play well in odd-numbered years.

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        • aceofrainbows

          7 years ago

          Don’t let the Giants sign him then

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        • Cam

          7 years ago

          Calling him a 4 WAR player is very short sighted – particularly as he’s looking at a 7-year deal, and last 4 seasons have been 4.1, -0.1, 3.5 and 0.0.

          He’s a groundball-heavy hitter in an environment that’s found value in lifting the ball, while playing the least premium position on the field, and riding an overstated narrative of his ability to defend that non-premium position.

          On top of that, he rode a .351 BABIP in his contract year, his highest ever and 14th in the league. Absolutely not sustainable, especially with his profile.

          As I said before, he’s not very good, and whoever ends up paying him $100+ million is going to regret it.

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        • TheIncident

          7 years ago

          He’s shown that he’s capable of putting up 3-4 WAR seasons. Even so, he doesn’t have to be a 4 WAR player to be worth a 7 year deal under $20mil/season. This is a FA not an extension to buy out arb years. The market rate is looking like $9mil/WAR. I understand people grew tired of Hosmer being touted like a top 5 1b by some in the league. He’s not, but that doesn’t mean a 7-year deal is some atrocity that will doom a team. I’m not a huge Hosmer fan, but the animosity towards him has past the point of reason. I’d give him a 50/50 shot on exceeding the value of the contract over time. Scoffing at a 4 WAR season by a 27 year old is ridiculous. The only argument that could be made is that it might not be best for small market teams to use a large chunk of their payroll on a 2nd tier 1b.”

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        • wrigleywannabe

          7 years ago

          way to backpedal

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        • TheIncident

          7 years ago

          Who’s backpedaling? I’m saying a 7-year deal for under $20mil/season is a reasonable contract. Contrary to most people’s thinking on here, not everything is boom or bust. Deals can be made that are reasonable. If he’s a 4 WAR player, it’s a great deal, 3 WAR a good deal, 2 WAR player it’s a a disappointment but not crippling. If you think he’s a 0-1 WAR player, it’s a very bad deal but I’d bet he’s got a better shot at 3-4 then 0-1.

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        • czontixhldr

          7 years ago

          “He’s shown that he’s capable of putting up 3-4 WAR seasons.”

          He’s also shown that he’s capable of putting up negative WAR seasons as recently as 2016.

          “Scoffing at a 4 WAR season by a 27 year old is ridiculous.”

          No one is scoffing at it – that’s a mischaracterization. Nevertheless, it’s no more ridiculous than scoffing at a negative WAR season.

          ” I’m not a huge Hosmer fan, but the animosity towards him has past the point of reason.”

          I think you’ve gone past the point of reason if you think it’s animosity. I don’t hate on Hosmer – AAMOF I think he “deserves” as much as his agent can negotiate. However, that doesn’t mean that I need to agree on the value on which they settle.

          I just think Hosmer, who put up zero or negative fWAR in 2 of the last 4 seasons – years where he was entering and in his prime – represents as much of a risk of busting as he does living up to the contract.

          IMHO that’s not good odds, If I were a GM I wouldn’t go near the guy for the kind of contract length he wants, and think the teams that have offered it to him are being very short-sighted.

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      • czontixhldr

        7 years ago

        I disagree. The guy has been as bad as he’s been good the last 4 years. Two of his last 4 years he’s had sero or negative fWAR.

        That’s not the kind of inconsistency that would motivate me to hand a long term contract to someone.

        The fact that Boras has gotten someone THAT inconsistent long term offers is a testament to his prowess as an agent. Whatever hallucinogenic magic dust he puts it the pages of his binders that cause owners and GM’s to make ridiculous long-term offers such as Hosmer is reported to have received has gotta be some good stuff.

        Cam is absolutely correct.

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  24. rathman53

    7 years ago

    Sign Matt Olson to a long term deal Billy. Way more value there!

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  25. stratcrowder

    7 years ago

    When does it end with the spiraling salaries and irresponsible long-term deals? The sky isn’t falling yet, but it isn’t too hard to recognize that it simply cannot continue.

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      Of course, salaries can continue to go up. The revenue the teams are receiving continues to go up so if salaries don’t, then something is seriously wrong with the system. What comes next is a strike.

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      • czontixhldr

        7 years ago

        Your post implies that the players are the sole reason that revenue continues to rise. That is simply not true.

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          Without the players there is no game. They are the product being sold. Of course they are responsible for the revenue generated by selling them. That their share of that revenue is falling and 100 FA are still unsigned is skyscraper sized neon sign that the system is broken.

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        • czontixhldr

          7 years ago

          So you’re saying that it’s the players ingenuity and genius that figures out how to create new revenue streams from the same old diluted product? (Yes, I’m against expansion.)

          The players are so effin’ stupid they’ve let themselves get out-negotiated for 10 years running and elected a guy to run their union that seems totally out of his depth. Unless, of course you’re impressed by empty rhetoric.

          If I’m a business owner – any business – and I figure out how to make more money off of my existing assets (and player contracts are assets), that’s revenue that I’ve figured out how to generate. Why should I have to share it? Your answer is always ‘because they “deserve” it’, which is completely arbitrary.

          They only deserve it if they can figure out in a free market how to negotiate for more of it without killing the golden goose. There’s no charity in labor negotiations. Get over it.

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  26. kcpaul

    7 years ago

    Neither the Padres or the Royals have moved an inch. Quit allowing MLBTR to be a tool for Boras to pump up his clients price by throwing false realities. Hoz won’t get another year and won’t get more money. If I were him, I’d be worried that one of these two will publicly walk away from their offer and the price plummets.

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  27. Ookashfah

    7 years ago

    Why don’t the Yankees sign him to 100 year 200 million dollar contract. That way Hosmer still gets paid but the yanks only add 2 million toward the luxury tax. Since luxury tax is calculated by AAV.

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    • TheIncident

      7 years ago

      Naw, he’d have to spend 1000x more than that contract’s value just to develop the technology to transfer his consciousness into a robot so he can cash his last paycheck on his 127th bday.

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  28. cubbybluethruandthru

    7 years ago

    Why even play this season , just give the trophy to the Cubbies and let’s start 2019, no , scratch that, since the cubbies are getting Harper in 2019 , they’ll win it 3 years in a row, bring on 2022!!

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      7 years ago

      This winter..
      The Cubs sign Harper,trade for Trout,sign Kershaw,and move Baez to short and Schwarber to second.
      Cubs win 130 games in 2019 go 11-0 in the playoffs and are voted by Comcast Sports as the greatest sports team in history…

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      • kbarr888

        7 years ago

        Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……….

        That’s Awesome!!!

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  29. Stingray

    7 years ago

    I would be really happy if the Pads got Hosmer, but my gut says that KC is probably more likely to up their offer to 9 years.
    But, the Padres are close to being done with a rebuild (another year?), but KC is closer to the start. I wonder if Hosmer/Boras would take a 8 year offer with SD because they can probably compete sooner…
    Don’t forget that Moustakas is a free agent too. Loser of the Hosmer race might go for him, or JD Martinez.

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  30. SupremeZeus

    7 years ago

    Nine year deal. Nine. Probably wants full no-trade and multiple opt outs too. We talkin’ bout Hosmer. Hosmer.

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  31. walls17

    7 years ago

    Rockies

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  32. mike156

    7 years ago

    As long as there are two teams serious about giving Hosmer 7 years, and “showing flexibility” there’s no reason for him not to hold out for 9 years. As for the rest of the league’s fans….why would we care how much KC or SD spend?

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    • homer 2

      7 years ago

      Bad contracts reduce a teams ability to use money on good contracts which help a team compete. This is especially true for small / mid market teams such as KC and SD. .

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      • outinleftfield

        7 years ago

        $20 million AAV for a guy that has proven he can put up 4.0 WAR or $36 million of value is a bargain. In 7 years we will see guys signing deals with $40 million AAV.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          It’s also a major overpay for a guy who has proven that he can put up 0 or negative-WAR seasons.

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        • czontixhldr

          7 years ago

          Outinleftfield doesn’t care if teams can compete, and doesn’t care if bad contracts keep good players from getting more money. If he did he’d argue for it.

          And that’s the rub here. He’s perfectly satisfied with bad players getting overpaid, as long as they get paid. He doesn’t care how it affects the fans’ perception of the players, and doesn’t care if it hurts teams ability to sign good players. He’s perfectly fine with it.

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  33. jeffmaz

    7 years ago

    Looks like the days of ridiculous contracts and unlimited increases year over year are over. Hosmer obviously doesn’t want to be in KC or he would have signed. The Padres can sign him to an esclating contract and keep him for the cheaper early years.

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  34. JackDanielsGhost

    7 years ago

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    • nutznboltz

      7 years ago

      Would never give anybody more than a five year contract.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      Brain dead

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  35. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    7 years ago

    Preller should knock $5m off his offer to Hosmer for every day that he doesn’t accept it.

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    • MaverickDodger

      7 years ago

      I wonder if that’s extra paperwork they have to do? Haha. I like where your heads at! It’s a showdown and no one is forcing the other to blink. Put a little pressure on the wound to see if it will bleed . . .

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  36. mafiabass

    7 years ago

    Is there something about Hosmer that I don’t know that makes giving him more than four or five years make sense?

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    • homer 2

      7 years ago

      The fact that two teams are considering offers up to nine years is nuts. Even if his 2017 numbers were the norm (which they are not) he would not deserve that length.

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      28

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  37. royalsrealist

    7 years ago

    This is not about KC or SD. If he REALLY wanted to sign with either team, it would’ve happened by now. This is about JD Martinez to the Red Sox, or another team.

    Hosmer’s girl works for NESN in Boston. Boston is a lot closer to contending than either KC or SD. If Boston reconciles with JD Martinez and signs him, then KC or SD is in play. Otherwise, as long as there’s hope for Hosmer to end up in Boston, he’ll keep stringing the other two along. JD Martinez is the key domino in the Hosmer sweepstakes.

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    • stymeedone

      7 years ago

      His hope of signing with Boston disappeared with them signing Moreland. Hosmer is not as good defensively as Moreland and would have to become the DH. Don’t see that happening.

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    • paulnewman

      7 years ago

      I think you are right. Explains Boras trying to talk Diamondback’s ownership to expand payroll. Sounds like JDM/Boras want AZ. Hosmer/Boras want Boston. Boston wants JDM, and may not love Hosmer as a backup plan.

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    • Bruin1012

      7 years ago

      The Red Sox aren’t signing Hosmer as a backup to JDM. They might sign LoMo but there is no chance they sign Hosmer.

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  38. FriendOfBoras

    7 years ago

    -Padres made 8 year offer to Hosmer.
    -Boras gets back to Padres that it’s a deal if they restrict Jose Torres, as Hosmer and Torres have an unsavory past.
    -Padres restrict Jose Torres
    -Padres to announce Hosmer signing within the next 24 hours.

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    • yankeeaddiction

      7 years ago

      What are you talking about unsavory past?

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      • FriendOfBoras

        7 years ago

        “personal, non babeball issues” is what I was told.

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      • swinging wood

        7 years ago

        Apparently, Hosmer doesn’t like the taste of Torres.

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  39. yankeeaddiction

    7 years ago

    My god this is a slow news day. The biggest piece of news today is this vague claim that Scott Boras has had contact with people from the Padres.

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  40. 377194

    7 years ago

    Give Hosmer a 20 year contract and a pension.

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    • kbarr888

      7 years ago

      Sure…….20/150…..Perfect.

      The minute he declines they can trade him or just cut him…..LOL

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  41. stymeedone

    7 years ago

    Lets say an injury to a first baseman on a contending team does happen. I cannot see them signing Hosmer to a 7-9 year contract to cover for that temporary injury. I just don’t see Boras thinking that way, so was it the writer of the article that came up with this ridiculous thought, or someone from MLBTR?

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  42. jakec77

    7 years ago

    If you are Royals or Padres ans realize that not a single team that is expecting to contend in 2018 is even willing to match what they are currently offering, shouldn’t you maybe start wondering if maybe it isn’t everyone else that’s wrong, it’s you?

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  43. tuna411

    7 years ago

    Now asking for 9 years in order to work back to 8?! You might call borass great or what ever, I call him a douche bag.

    Why not give hosmer an opt out after every season too?

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  44. alexmiller6677

    7 years ago

    I wouldn’t even give my mother a nine year contract and she pushed me out of her vagina.

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  45. Jeff Cartwright

    7 years ago

    I really like Eric Hosmer, but a seven year contract at 20+ million is outrageous for a team in rebuild mold. Even with Hosmer, they won’t be competitive next year. Please, KC (and SD for that matter), don’t do it! KC should be looking at TRADING AWAY pieces, not paying big bucks for FA, even if the free agent has been a “cornerstone” for the org for the past few years. Perez becomes the new cornerstone. Send Jason Hammel and $8M to the Phillies for Tommy Joseph and start over already.

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  46. chgobangbang

    7 years ago

    9 years? That’s ludicrous

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  47. san diego4life

    7 years ago

    With all the talent coming up the minors the padres could use hosmer leadership and experience. Padres have money to spend right now . Next year there’s no way they will afford any of the free agents so why not get hosmer .

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    • czontixhldr

      7 years ago

      Why not? Because he’s just as likely to be a zero or a liability on the field as he is to be an asset. “Leadership” only goes so far, and a lot of a players ability to provide it is based on his on-field performance.

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  48. NOT Mickey Koke

    7 years ago

    Nice to see the mindless grammar police still out in droves.

    Anyhoo… about actual baseball: Hosmer would be a nice get for SD. Go Padres.

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  49. okiguess

    7 years ago

    “a nine-year deal” I believe Hosmer and Boras need a drug test.

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  50. okiguess

    7 years ago

    “a nine-year deal” I believe Hosmer and Boras need a drug test…

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  51. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    7 years ago

    Hosmer was already overpricing himself, and now he’s asking for 9 years? If this is really the case, then please Padres just back off this guy and let the Royals be stuck with him.

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