12:55pm: Norris is guaranteed $3MM on the one-year term, and the contract contains “significant” incentives, Rosenthal tweets.
Interestingly, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that Norris will also be given the opportunity to start in the event that the Cardinals decide one or more of their younger arms need time in the minors early in the season. He adds that Norris is expected to join the team Wednesday, which would suggest that we’ll know the corresponding 40-man roster move within 48 hours or so.
9:50am: It’s a one-year, Major League contract for Norris, tweets SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo.
9:41am: The Cardinals are in agreement on a contract with free-agent righty Bud Norris, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). His contract is pending a physical. Norris is represented by Wasserman.
It’s not yet clear whether Norris, 33 next month, signed a Major League or Minor League contract, though the latter is a possibility following a rough finish to what began as a strong 2017 season. The 4.21 ERA that Norris authored through 62 innings last season doesn’t look overly impressive, but he was somewhat quietly dominant through the season’s first half; in 36 1/3 innings prior to the All-Star break, Norris notched a 2.23 ERA that was backed by a 2.96 FIP and a 3.21 xFIP. In that time, the starter-turned-reliever averaged 11.6 K/9 against 3.5 BB/9 with a 47.6 percent ground-ball rate.
However, Norris missed time in late June and early July with a knee injury, and upon his return, his success quickly deteriorated. Then the Halos’ closer, Norris improbably served up a pair of grand slams (being charged for all four runs in each instance) within a span of six days, ballooning his ERA from 2.23 to 3.89. Things didn’t get any better for him in the month of August, and he again hit the disabled list late that month due to inflammation in the same problematic right knee. Overall, Norris perhaps quite literally limped to a 7.01 ERA following the All-Star break and watched his K/9 (9.5), BB/9 (4.6) and ground-ball rates (41.8 percent) all go in the wrong direction.
The Cardinals, though, could be heartened by the fact that Norris’ success out of the ’pen in the past couple of seasons has corresponded with a notable change in his pitch selection, as he’s largely abandoned his four-seam fastball in exchange for a cutter and sinker. If those changes and better health can allow him to sustain production more in line with last year’s first half than his nightmarish second half, then Norris could prove to be a bargain for a Cardinals team whose late-inning relief mix still looks to be rather unsettled.
As things stand, Luke Gregerson could well head into the year as the closer, though St. Louis also picked up righty Dominic Leone from the Blue Jays in the Randal Grichuk trade, and lefty Tyler Lyons had a breakout year as a high-leverage reliever last season. Any from that mix could conceivably find his way into the ninth inning in 2018, as could righty Alex Reyes when he returns from Tommy John surgery (even though the organization views him as a starter long term).
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Cards making moves…LOL
I’d take his 10.7 K/9 from last year for what figures to be a song.
Hell yeah his 0.4 WAR and 4.21 ERA, guys a beast!
Hey give him a break his 4.21 last year was a huge upgrade from his 6.5 in 2016
This signing is due to the fact that Bud Norris has resembled Cy Young when he has faced the Cardinals. This is just another weak move by the front office to go cheap. The Cardinals have deep pockets but rarely ever dig into them. It would be optimistic to think Cardinals can finish 3rd.
What relievers out there should they be handing over cash to instead?
So this is the Cardinals answer to Darvish, wow…ownership really went out on limb on this one
What was Holland’s ERA after the all-star break in 2017.? 6.38 or something like that. As for Norris, safety in numbers. Maybe he’ll pitch well and earn a spot on the team, like Neshak. If not, no loss.
They signed him for 3 million dollars
Darvish-starter. Norris-reliever. Hmmm. Kinda like saying Darvish was a response to Cards signing Gregerson. Pretty independent moves.
They are independent moves, much agreed, but this is just another cheap move by the Cardinals front office, they know that even with a shoddy product on the field they will still draw in excess of 3 million fans, it’s a matter of time before the fans quit going.
What expensive move would you have had them make?
I think everyone would agree that the Cardinals rotation is a mess, they need another starter, bring back Lynn, he is a competitor, he eats innings, you know what your getting
No they won’t! They are some of the most loyal fans in MLB !
Cardinals are still better than the Brewers
Still? The Brewers were better than the Cards last year. The Cards Bullpen is a mess the Brewers 4th best bp pitcher is better than the Cards Closer, whoever that’s going to be.
Better than Dominic Leone? Who I think should be the closer.
Dominic Leone is a journeyman who had a decent year last year but was absolutely terrible the prior two years. I wouldn’t count on him as the closer.
Cards rotation and lineup are both better than the Brewers, even if the pen is likely worse, that’s not enough for the Brewers to be considered better
No to mention they had one great half year in Thames.. Brewers fans act like they found the new Price Fielder.. lol Dude spent 5 years in Japan and now he is MVP material.
My projection chart has Leone coming in at a 3.87 for next season, fangraphs has him at 3.71 and BR has him at 4.00
Regression is expected based on .266 BABIP
Based on his contact rates against last year, his projected xBABIP is .279, giving an opponent to wOBA of .274
If he keeps the K/BB/HR rates anywhere close to where he was last year, then he’s an elite reliever
I’m a diehard Cards fan and even I am shaking my head at this one. So many young pitchers deserve innings before him. And on the heels of Darvish signing this is embarrassing
Confused what you mean by that because because he’s coming out of the bullpen
I’m confused what he means by die hard fan. Bc unless he misspelled casual.
I knew he was going to the bullpen but we have other options better than him there also.
Brewers fans thinking they got “All Starts” in Cain and Yelich.. lol – Might as well hand you guys over the WS trophy
Even as a Cubs fan I have to agree with you Red Feather. The Brewers over achieved last year, and yeah Thames got out the box hot, Everyone thought they had the division last year and I said Thames will go back to reality. He went worse than reality and went stone cold. The pitching didn’t hold up as I said it wouldn’t. I have to agree, I still think the Cards are better. Both Rotation and for sure as far as offence.
As far as over paid Cain PLEASE. The Brewers most stupidest move was signing another outfielder they didn’t need when they could have signed Darvish, or JA or even another pitcher. Darvish best offer at the time was 125-5 years So the Cubs spent another million on a bonus year. While dropping 5 million off the Lux tax. LAD went 6 just a bit lower. The Brewers low balled. I hope he does earn that bonus money, and get his full 150 that mean he wins two Cy Youngs lol
The Brewers could have had that if not for over paying for Cain, Thatw ill haunt them all 2018 season. Thames wont be hot again, and teams now since they seen him have him figured out. When your gone 5 years it takes awhile.
As far as Yelich. LOL Even if he bats 290, one guy wont bring a sorry team like the Brewers to the promise land. Maybe winning the division is the goal, I always thought it was Winning a Pennant at the very least and or a WS.
He flanked by who??? lol Just think Yelich, Stranton, Ozuna, and Gordon couldn’t get Miami past 500 and into post season, you think one guy will. And Stratton and Ozuna are a lot better flanking Yelich than what he has now on his right and left side lol. Brewer fans crack me up. They will come don to earth this year.
Maybe they can go cheap on a has been Cobb maybe. Doubt it, he wants 4 years at 20 million.
Oh yeah but Brewers fans have fantasy visions of Archer, LOL Please Please. I have to P now.
Is your team planning on going thru the wild card? Winning the division is not a bad way to get into the playoffs. Six teams will go that route. Unfortunately, not even your favorite team can get a bye to the WS.
Everyone only says Thames had a decent first half. The guy put up a 1.004 OPS over the last month of the season.
Right even when he was slumping his OPS was still higher than league average
Contract contains “significant” incentives.
Cardinals GM: Hey, Bud if you pitch an inning without giving up a run today, I give you cheeseburger from McDonald’s later.
Bud: Cheeseburger good.
First Hanigan, now Norris. Just a few hours into Monday let’s keep this momentum! With pitchers and catchers reporting over the next week let’s hope this is the week the levee breaks.
Only 103 FA left to sign. It is going to take a flood to avoid a strike.
Solid Yu Darvish counter… I think this puts the Cards into First in the central.
Gigantic kick to the nuts for all Cards fans today. I suppose the moves can’t be compared but the fact remains two days ago the Cubs sign the top pitcher out there, and when even my dog knows we need a top starter, we DO sign a decent starter…….from 2010. If we don’t sign Arrieta or make the move for Archer, this offseason will be the ultimate betrayal by the front office, even with the Ozuna trade.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!
They won’t get Archer without Reyes in the mix and that is the start. MO won’t do it. I cant blame him. Archer is good but he is no Mad Max or CK or Klubber or Sale.
As far as JA, I don’t think MO will spend the cash. It take more money for JA than Darvish. JA turned down a 4 year 110 million dollar extension with the Cubs both in 2016 and in Jan 2018. That is 27.5 Million a year. he turned down and the match offer for Darvish.
At the very least your looking at 150 – 5 years / 165-6 years which would probably get it done, 7 years is plain stupid. at any price. Anything less is a waste of Boras and JA time. Not that the Cubs didn’t try but theri not going to toss money away. JA is just Greedy like Hos, and JD
The Cubs saw things they didn’t like with JA. His velocity has been down and there is no sign that it will get any better. I mean I’d take JA on a 2 year/40 mil contract. I mean the Scrubs are still the team to beat, I’m good with standing pat and see what happens. If we’re in the running then make eals at the deadline. If not, then we keep our prospects and ride it out again this year and hopefully get some big bats and arms net year. There really isn’t much in this FA class. I’d like to have JD Martinez but not for that price. I love Marp, but man he is one dimentional. The time to trade him is now to get anything good for him. Either way, I think the Brewers don’t do jack this year, we end up in 2nd and miss the wild card by 4 games because our Starting rotation is not very good at all.
Baseball-Reference projects his 2018 record as 3-6 with 4.86 ERA and 1.432 WHIP. Not exactly Darvish numbers.
Depends is darvish still going to be tipping pitches
Not to far off Darvish’s Rangers numbers last year 6-9 with 4.01 ERA
just .85 of arun, but what is math to a St. Louis fan?
Wow another solid veteran reliever to add to our collection!- Cardinals Fan
why do you do this to me mozeliak
He’s an idiot-Cardinals fan here
Is that why the Cards have like 10 straight winning seasons in a row? Because of how dumb you think he is?
Ignore the BFIBS I think they literally think with their ass
I like the Bud, he is a good relief pitcher and can start if we need him too( even though we won’t)
A Bud at (Anheuser)-Busch Stadium? What are the odds?!
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Norris is decent for stretches, but in no way spectacular. As a depth type move at probably a decent price (terms not listed when I’m posting this) Norris should be fine.
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Ex-Major League Baseball journeyman Esteban Loaiza was arrested Friday with more than 20 kilos of either cocaine or heroin, according to the San Diego Sheriff’s Office, and is currently in jail on $200,000 bond.
Dude nearly won the Cy Young once.
he’s as high as cy young now
The dude had good stuff.
He also could pitch.
no scott boras client has ever had to resort to this to support themselves after their career.
Former MLB pitcher, Williams Perez (ATL, CHC) accidentally shot and killed his pitching coach when handing off a loaded handgun in his native Venezuela.
Maybe he could return to the Pirates to be the Parrot. He has the resume.
Makes me wonder what Curtis Strong is up to…
That is a name I have not heard in quite a while. Sounds like he is not having so much luck in the next exciting chapter of his life.
Is 20 kilos a lot?
Yeah that’s like 44lbs
its a small fortune worth of drugs. a kilo of coacaine is worth 25 to 30 grand in the US, so he had give or take 500 grand worth of drugs
If he cut it right
and broke it down, it would be closer to $4 million!
A haunting name for blue jays fans,,,,,,traded micheal young to Texas for the
Stiff,,,,,,what a pant load he was,,,lazy s.o.b
now they know why the chalk lines kept disappearing in toronto
norris seemed to pitch good against st louis wen he was with the astros
12-7 team record vs st louis
Yes, so this is a great signing for 2010.
Key word “against”
Didn’t Norris start out with the Cards
and pitch a no-hitter his rookie year with them?
Your thinking of Bud Smith
And Bud Smith was a lefty.
That’s right! Thanks!
That is the only reason I know who he is. I remember being in Arkansas visiting and looked at the match up and said Bud Norris? haaa sounds like a bum, and then he beat us like 7 consecutive times. He’s a bulldog though, could work out well for SP depth and a BP arm. We shall see.
I don’t really like this move, but let’s see what he does with the team.
Anyone who remembers this dude when the Astros were still in the NL Central remembers that for some reason he shredded the Cardinals back in the day.
I don’t know what this deal means. I am confused.
Yeah, why “overpay” for a good starter when you can keep all your money and finish last? I love this business model. Too bad it doesn’t work outside the MLB.
The Pirates are way ahead of the Cardinals in terms of keeping money and finishing last.
Great. Cards can’t even win that race. 🙂
By all projections, the Cards will be one of the wild card teams in the NL. Their chances of coming in last are very low.
They have great flexibility and a good roster.
Cards fans are acting incredibly spoiled on message boards.
yep, that front office is real flexible when bent over
“All” projections? Really?
I like this signing. There likely is not tremendous upside to Bud but this is low-risk. It isn’t the big splash I’d like to see but there will be time for that.
Everybody crapping on Norris’ 4.21 ERA
3.90 FIP, increased usage of the cutter and a maintained velocity avg. of 94. On a cheap one year deal, you could do a lot worse.
I believe they are more concerned about his second half numbers.
also, I didn’t see the terms listed. Likely, cheap, but who knows?
He was a top 10 BP arm until he got hurt last year, thats why his 2nd half numbers suck balls.
Don’t know how much the contract is for, but it can’t be much. It’s the Cardinals after all. So it’s likely a low risk, potentially decent reward move. If he tanks in spring training it won’t be a huge deal. Not a sexy move, but potentially useful.
Right! Like Neshak.
Just goes to show that Luhnow was the brains of the organization. This is just another slap from the M&M idiots. I’m done. Plenty of good teams play every night on the AT BAT App.
Grow up. How many sub .500 seasons has Mozeliak had?
I see your Yu Darvish and raise you one Bud Noriss
Isn’t there 40 man full?
It is right now, but with a flexibility due to some deadweight. I’d expect to see Mike Mayers DFA’d off the 40-man. I don’t know if any other team will claim him, but it’s not a big loss if someone does.
Bud Norris a better pitcher than Seung Hwan Oh? No.
Last year he definitely was
So the Cubs sign a top of the rotation pitcher for a price the Cards could easily afford, and our counter move is to bring in a guy who tore them up 6-7 years ago. I pray to God there are more moves coming. Right now on paper this is your third place team in the Central. The fans get it – management better get it, too.
this has nothing to do with Darvish
Well yes I know that since Norris is a pen guy now, but still, it feels like a slap in the nuts. Watching the Cubs do everything they can to catch us the last few years, they do it, and we counter with virtually nothing but the Ozuna deal. Things can change any minute I know, but we Cards’ fans are getting frustrated and very restless.
I’m a cards fan and you speak for yourself and no one else.
You did watch the Cubs tank for quite a few years too tight? Then all those high picks matured in the minors and they got brought up
and have turned into great players. Then they sign some good FA
and make some good trades. It didn’t just happen overnight !
I’m a Cards fan and I’m not frustrated or restless. I loved our off-season.
You think this team as of right now can win the WS? Are you serious? The overwhelming majority of Cards fans aren’t satisfied with Ozuna and Gregerson. I don’t think that’s pessimism – it’s being realistic.
No one is saying the Cardinals should be favored over the top contenders (cubs, nationals, dodgers, Astros, Yankees). What JFactor (and myself) are saying is that they did a lot to improve their team and have a good shot at the wildcard. And once you get into the post season anything can happen.
The Cardinals are set up with not a lot of salary commitments for the upcoming seasons with a lot of solid young, cheap players on the way.
The cardinals have replaced Broxton, socholovich, and Siegrist with Leone, Gregerson, and Norris, as well as replacing grichuk and piscotty with Ozuna. I think that’s a pretty dang good offseason.
The frustration that he eludes to is the fact that the Cardinals are always tied as a possible landing spot for the big names but they never buck up and get them signed. They go cheap. This would make sense in some markets, but the Cards have tons of money and elect not to spend it, this team may win w/c but no way will they make a run. They are missing a position player and have no real closer. Many Cards fans are frustrated, this will be 3 questionable years in a row.
Okay so over the past 3 offseasons including this one (preceding the 2016, 17, and 18 seasons), which high priced, top tiered free agent would you have liked the cardinals to beat the best offer on? I’m willing to listen on why any of those players would be good investments.
The fact that the cardinals make lots of money is a great thing. They have homegrown talent and payroll flexibility when they feel the time is right to make a big signing. Signing 30+ year old players for 100+ million completely goes against what’s made the cardinals successful for the past 15 years.
Don’t forget we replaced lynn with the Lizard Eater. There are a lot of what ifs, but if Luke, Jack and Reyes do what they are capable of doing and things go our way we could surprise alot of teams. Either way I don’t see us beating anyone in the playoffs because of our SP. There is just no way. I’m ok with losing agian this year, it’s not smart to counter other teams upgrades. I mean why waste money on players just to waste money. This FA class sucked. It’s just how it is, be smart, be patient and reevaluate in a few months.
The problem is the brass like to lead the fan base to the belief that they are interested in signing big name players., when they truly have no desire to do so, yet continually sign players that they hope will rebound or outperform their recent output. There just comes a time when you are not positioned to win and may need to do something outside the box. With the current roster I would feel better if they traded several veterans for prospects, because we are not set to win with this team.
Did the cards really miss out on Price, Pujols, and Heyward?
Because those are the guys the didn’t get but fans wanted.
If we had landed those guys, we’d be heading into a rebuild with a $200M payroll. Not a contending team with payroll flexibility and a team under control for the next two seasons.
All projection systems have the Cards in the wild card game.
Not wise to unload this team right now.
They retooled this off-season.
Let’s see if Pham and DeJong are legit. Let’s let Weaver, Reyes and other young bucks show us what they have. And if it’s a Giants 2017 like season, then rebuild around the younger core.
If it’s a 2017 Yankees like season, then go after some big named free agents. If it’s a 2017 Cardinals like season, retool again based on the same information.
Couldn’t agree more. For instance they knew Stanton wouldn’t come here because St. Louis wasn’t on his list. But I think the most egregious was how they went about ‘trying’ to resign Pujols after all he did for the organization. They had no intention of paying him the money he deserved.
The organization is very clever with their marketing. They have most of the fans eating right our of their hands. They actually believe everything that Ricky, Dan, and Al say on TV. They don’t sugar coat when it comes to the Cardinals!
Fans don’t take the time to use their heads and most of them don’t even watch the games. They will listen to the radio or some other TV sports program and form opinions based off what other people say. They parrot. You must see through the marketing, through the agenda if you really want to know what’s going on. .
Plus they have a very good minor-league system with plenty of good pitching
and position players that are ready to compete in the majors. That helps to keep the payroll flexible
and lets them sign fill in free agents as needed!
The Cardinals will compete very well in the NL Central for the next 10 years easily !
What a truly stupid comment, and I don’t throw that term around lightly.
This move is not in any way, shape, or form a “counter move” to the Cubs signing Darvish. It’s a low-dollar, 1-year signing of a reliever, the type of move that pretty much every team makes every year.
I get that but the timing of it is embarrassing. It just looks bad – how is that not a logical observation? I pray I’m wrong and this week we bring in Arrieta or trade for Archer, but all signs point to the FO doing what they have done now the last however many years: being content on crossing their fingers that guys either rebound from a bad year or the young guys live up to their potential they showed in the minors.
cry me another river
Making a desperation signing of Arrieta would be the worst thing the Cards could do!
Signing JA would be the mistake.
All teams make signings like this! It’s called depth . It’s the same with all the guys that get minor-league deals. You start with quantity
and pare it down to quality!
So then what was the Cubs counter move to trading for Ozuna?
Not every move has to have a reactionary counter. That’s an awful off-season strategy.
One move does not constitute another move.
The cards 2018 OD roster is set, and it was a very good, and smart off-season.
Fortunately, fans don’t run the front office. All the moves the fans would have wanted, and the Cards would be attempting to rebuild right now with a $200M payroll with Price, Pujols, and Heyward on the roster.
Then what do you geniuses suggest? We go into the season relying on 36 year old Waino, perennially injured Wacha, a former MLB flameout Mikolas, Weaver who, yes, had part of a decent season but is far from proven, and Carlos who still hasn’t proven to be a true #1? I don’t think Jake is necessarily the answer either – I’d rather trade for Archer – but if you’re contending for a WS, you don’t go into the year with question marks all over the place like we are. Again, I’m not dumb enough to think Norris is truly a counter to Darvish, but the timing of it just looks so horrific, and is a microcosm of how the two teams have operated the last few years. You all may think I’m a moron, and maybe I am, but at least we can all surely agree this team on paper is nowhere close to the Cubs, and that’s frustrating.
Waino may be done, but Cards seem to have some young pitchers of talent. The Cards were adding depth to the bullpen before Darvish signed, and continue to go about their business after. Were you expecting them to declare a week long mourning period? The Cubs had to replace JA, and they did so with Yu. Cost more, but they didnt improve, just maintained status quo.
Lets see if Waino is healthy this year and has anything left before writing him off. I hear he’s lost a ton of weight
and is fantastic shape! Lets hope so!
Finally, Bud is off the board. Let the games begin.
No doubt in my mind the Cardinals have something big in the works. Although i think itll happen by mid-week, give em til the weekend. All of the nay-sayers will be silenced
Finally pry Archer and Colome away from the Rays … and then I woke up.
I wish the Cards could’ve got Ordozzi from the Rays. Didn’t the Twins get him for a single player? I think it was a AA SS if I’m not mistaken . Really ? The Cards couldn’t have beat that deal? I was confused about that. Especially since they were in on him for awhile.
What have they done to make you so optimistic? I need some of what you’ve got because I’m afraid they’re going to sit around and do nothing.
Because after what the Brewers have done, and now the Cubs have signed Darvish. How do you think its gonna look for Mo if they do nothing else, especially with the money they have available, and miss out on the playoffs? I dont see them signing Arrieta, Lynn or Cobb. But I bet theyre on the phone with several teams.
Well they got a MVP caliber left fielder earlier in the off-season, and unloaded two unnecessary outfielders for controllable players.
Probably focus on that, since that’s what makes their off-season so good.
So are 29 other teams on the phone lol If you kept up with St L MO and Dumbinski lol already have said they are keeping pact and going into ST as they are and no other major moves are being made. Get over it. Cheating birds will suffer eternal wrath for cheating and won’t win another title until all 29 other teams have starting with 2015 KC and going down the line for as long as it takes.
The Cards front office and MO only care about Ball Park Village and maintaining the 3 million fans in attendance every year. Keep the montys..rolling in
You’re a trolling moron ! Why don’t you get back on the Cubs boards
and worry about your team for a change ! By the way, is Russell still beating his wife?
Cheap Cheap Cheap. What a bunch of BS.
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I don’t disapprove. I’m ok with the signing after thinking about it. I mean we have some depth in the BP and SP now. This FA class wasn’t anything special, so I think we played it smart, got some pices and now we sit back and reevaluate in a few months. Cards are still cheap though, and Mo can shove his lame bow ties up his arse.
Scratching my head on this on. The new pitching coach had to have some input or is leveraging this for yet another big move. Could be a good game of chess beginning.
World Series, babies! Watching it on tv, I mean lol
Where will you be performing your comedy act this weekend?
What drives me crazy is that people are complaining about this deal yet it’s a depth move. A little disappointed he got a major league deal but none the less this could work out like Matt Albert did last year for the Nats. I understand fans want them to make a bigger move but for who? The only free agent I wouldn’t mind them to sign would be Jake Arrieta or Bring back lance Lynn because the rotation scares me a little, but as for the bullpen with all the depth they have I’m not to concerned.
Thank God the Angels didn’t resign this guy.Even wean he was having a good day he couldn’t get anyone out 123 .Nagy did the best he could with this guy good luck to the Cards pitching coach.LOL
Mike Maddux is pretty amazing so he should be alright.
Ok Mike, time for you to make chicken salad out of Chicken s…
103 FA left to go after Breslow and Norris sign.
Just please stop saying “The Cardinal way” just stop.
If Norris gives them just half a dozen starts, and as a result they can leave one or more young arms down in the Minors and delay their service time, this is a terrific investment.
I’m surprised he got a guaranteed major league contract. He only has one good season from a few years back
I guess one of the advantages of hiring one of the best pitching coaches in MLB is that you can take a cheap flyer on a guy and see if he can provide value.
Is he really one of the best? Or has he just been around forever and have a famous brother?
Tabbing a coach the best or worst can be deceving, Joe Torre managed the Cardinals prior to managing the Yankees. Stl could not see him go quick enough, yet he goes on to win 5 championships in NY and is considered great.
Gary C. Smith
That is a great advantage, especially if you don’t have adequate resources.
This Bud’s for you!
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Y’all like crepes?
Great move Mo!!! That ought to strike fear into the hearts of the Cubs, and the Brewers! Not to Mention the Nationals, the Dodgers, the Giants, and the Rockies and Diamondbacks. Way to keep your head in on what’s going on around the rest of the National League.
I heard the Cardinals have offered Hosmer a $36 million contract divided over 8 years!!!! They are expecting a response soon! At least he will get his 8 years from someone!!!
Joking about a player that makes no sense for them erodes your sarcasm.
How does Hosmer not make sense for the Cardinals? Move Carp back to third, and we have a decent power threat who plays gold glove D. I know they’ll never cough up the money but I’m a huge Hos fan and think he’d fit in perfectly in STL.
Probably because Gyroko is the same value as a hitter as Hosmer.
Why take those PA away?
Hosmer is a ground ball hitter. I’d take him at 36/8 like was suggested of course, but he isn’t really an upgrade.
What do u mean, he’s the 9th best 1b in baseball, that means there are only 8 better
And Hosmer wasn’t one of them
Hosmer < carpenter, carpenters defense at 3b < gyorkos defense, gold glove at first base is slightly above being worthless, hosmer wants 7 years over 125 million for little to no upgrade
So basically he had two good months and this means the Cardinals are a genius for signing him. Ignoring not just the rest of the year, but the other 8 years in his career.
You then have to ignore his uptick in velocity and change in pitches.
But sure, ignore those things.
I think fasbal1 hit the nail on the head with his comments.
Mo holds the purse, I can’t really blame him. It’s Nitwit Dewitt who spends the cash and he’s spending it on Ball Park Village. It’s great they recognized they had management issues. Fortunately they kept Matheny. Rather than fire him they put new management around him to hopefully make him better. Yankees fired their manager.
Seems to me they’re desperate to have legit 3-4 hitters in the line-up instead of keeping Carp in the lead off spot. I mean Fowler did great in the lead off spot, terrible in one of the 3-4 spots, and Carp is notorious for hitting well in the 3-4 spot.
Looking forward to going to ball park village this year and watching a third rate team. Even Al Harbosky said he thinks the Cards will be 3rd this year in the division. Said it right on TV! I’m looking forward to seeing if they can improve their fundamental play which rivaled the Bad News Bears.
Really? Right on TV? WoW!