Headlines

  • Rockies Fire Bud Black
  • Cubs Promote Cade Horton
  • Rafael Devers Unwilling To Play First Base
  • Pirates Fire Manager Derek Shelton
  • Mariners Claim Leody Taveras
  • Rangers Hire Bret Boone As Hitting Coach
  • Previous
  • Next
Register
Login
  • Hoops Rumors
  • Pro Football Rumors
  • Pro Hockey Rumors

MLB Trade Rumors

  • Home
  • Teams
    • AL East
      • Baltimore Orioles
      • Boston Red Sox
      • New York Yankees
      • Tampa Bay Rays
      • Toronto Blue Jays
    • AL Central
      • Chicago White Sox
      • Cleveland Guardians
      • Detroit Tigers
      • Kansas City Royals
      • Minnesota Twins
    • AL West
      • Houston Astros
      • Los Angeles Angels
      • Oakland Athletics
      • Seattle Mariners
      • Texas Rangers
    • NL East
      • Atlanta Braves
      • Miami Marlins
      • New York Mets
      • Philadelphia Phillies
      • Washington Nationals
    • NL Central
      • Chicago Cubs
      • Cincinnati Reds
      • Milwaukee Brewers
      • Pittsburgh Pirates
      • St. Louis Cardinals
    • NL West
      • Arizona Diamondbacks
      • Colorado Rockies
      • Los Angeles Dodgers
      • San Diego Padres
      • San Francisco Giants
  • About
    • MLB Trade Rumors
    • Tim Dierkes
    • Writing team
    • Advertise
    • Archives
  • Contact
  • Tools
    • 2024-25 MLB Free Agent List
    • 2025-26 MLB Free Agent List
    • 2024-25 Top 50 MLB Free Agents With Predictions
    • Projected Arbitration Salaries For 2025
    • Free Agent Contest Leaderboard
    • Contract Tracker
    • Transaction Tracker
    • Agency Database
  • NBA/NFL/NHL
    • Hoops Rumors
    • Pro Football Rumors
    • Pro Hockey Rumors
  • App
  • Chats
Go To Pro Hockey Rumors
Go To Hoops Rumors

AL East Notes: Walker, Rays, Red Sox

By Steve Adams | March 1, 2018 at 9:00am CDT

Neil Walker tells Billy Witz of the New York Times that his camp held fairly extensive talks with the Yankees before they acquired Brandon Drury (all links to Twitter). Walker said he and his agents felt that they were “fairly close” to hammering out a deal with the Yanks, who instead swung a trade to bring in Drury for added infield depth. The 32-year-old switch-hitter felt the Yankees were a strong fit, as he knows the rigors of playing in the New York media market and was “certainly willing” to bounce around the infield and play multiple positions.  Walker was hoping for a multi-year deal with the Yankees, though, and suggests that the team ultimately “decided to hang onto money for midseason,” when they could be in the market for adding veterans via trade.

More from the division…

  • The Rays have taken plenty of heat for their offseason moves, though Travis Sawchick of Fangraphs observes one common thread among the hitters they’ve let go: a susceptibility to whiffs against four-seam fastballs. Corey Dickerson swung through more four-seamers than anyone in Major League Baseball last season by a wide margin, Sawchik notes, while Steven Souza was third on that list and Logan Morrison tied for seventh. Sawchik also notes that each of the three had declines in the season’s second half (though Morrison maintained above-average production). Replacements such as Carlos Gomez and especially C.J. Cron had fewer struggles against the fastball, he adds. Sawchik has written in the past about how the Tampa Bay organization emphasizes utilizing elevated fastballs as a weapon more than most other clubs, so perhaps that trend applies to both sides of the ball.
  • The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier runs through some troubling numbers for the Red Sox’ offense from 2017, observing that the team’s lineup was startlingly ineffective in hitters’ counts. Boston took an abnormally passive approach at the plate last season, per Speier, and while they were among the game’s more productive clubs in 0-2, 1-2 and 2-2 counts, they ranked in the bottom third of baseball in 3-1, 2-0, 2-1, 1-0, 0-0, 1-1 and 0-1 counts (by measure of OPS). The Red Sox ranked last in the American League in batting average, on-base percentage and slugging percentage in 0-0 counts, he adds. Speier spoke at length with principal owner John Henry about the trends, which did not go unnoticed by ownership or the front office and may have played a notable role in the organization’s coaching overhaul. Notably, Speier adds that new skipper Alex Cora saw his Astros pounce on the first pitch with regularity and with great success in 2017.
Share 0 Retweet 10 Send via email0

Boston Red Sox New York Yankees Tampa Bay Rays Brandon Drury Neil Walker

NL West Notes: Kershaw, Dodgers, Padres, D-backs, Williamson
Main
Phillies Have Had Recent Contact With Lance Lynn
View Comments (48)
Post a Comment

48 Comments

  1. thegreatcerealfamine

    7 years ago

    So glad they didn’t sign Walker…

    3
    Reply
    • BSPORT

      7 years ago

      Agree, would be another overpaid average player to sit next to Ellsbury on the bench.

      1
      Reply
      • jamesorange12

        7 years ago

        Walker’s problem has never been mediocrity…it’s been his ability to stay healthy. When he stays healthy he’s a solid player. He’s amassed a 20 WAR over his career – even with his back issues

        1
        Reply
      • pasha2k

        7 years ago

        Well NYY were dying to get Ellsbury, as they were Damon, see where it got them?

        1
        Reply
        • costergaard2

          7 years ago

          Damon won the WS and stole an extra base though the shift. The mistake was giving Ellsbury Cano’s exact deal. They should have signed Ells to a four year deal like they did Damon.

          Reply
      • whitemule70

        7 years ago

        Yup. The Drury deal was ideal.

        Reply
  2. GOP Lizards

    7 years ago

    More RS items please, we don’t get enough.

    Reply
    • mike156

      7 years ago

      Harsh environment here….

      Reply
    • dynamite drop in monty

      7 years ago

      Red Sonja is underrated.

      2
      Reply
      • Ken M.

        7 years ago

        I agree. Conan the Barbarian!

        Reply
        • Cuso

          7 years ago

          I prefer Conan the Destroyer with Bombatta – Wilt the Stilt!

          Reply
  3. nutbunnies

    7 years ago

    Walker would have been a nice addition, but obviously a guy like Drury is gonna be more desirable due to age and the arb situation.

    Reply
  4. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    7 years ago

    Walker is the perfect example of the type of player the union failed by constantly selling out the young players for the benefit of veteran stars.

    Brandon Drury will make about $500,000 this season. (Every single NHL player makes more than this in a sport that generates 40% of the revenue, for comparison’s sake.)

    Why would a team pay Neil Walker $5 million, let alone the $12-15 million he probably expected, when they can get Drury for $500,000?

    Repeat this same logic across dozens, maybe hundreds of roster spots and it explains why few have left the free agent camp so far.

    9
    Reply
    • gocincy

      7 years ago

      This is spot-on. The union has made poor choices that betray their veteran players. And they have been out-negotiated by the owners repeatedly.

      2
      Reply
  5. SG

    7 years ago

    So what did the Red Sox hitting coach do differently in 2016?
    And, as I recall, David Ortiz had a great year in 2016.
    Or are we saying that Big Papi was his own hitting instructor?
    So why don’t we just get a guy Big Papi likes as hitting coach?
    It’s had to believe the hitters could be so pathetic after talking with Ortiz for multiple years. Or was Big Papi just keeping them in the middle of the team stats 2016+?

    Reply
    • pasha2k

      7 years ago

      Papi made everyone better.

      1
      Reply
  6. hozie007

    7 years ago

    The Red Sox lack of power last year was a weakness that was exposed in the post season and will be troubling for them in 2018 if JD, Moreland and Hanley don’t produce consistently. The Astros were very consistent in hitting all year…..which paid off in the end. The problem is the RS don’t have an ‘Altuve’…that guy single-handedly won about 20 games for the Stros last year.

    2
    Reply
    • anarchoburrito

      7 years ago

      There are 29 teams that don’t have an Altuve.

      2
      Reply
      • BlueJayFan1515

        7 years ago

        There are 29 teams without a Trout.

        2
        Reply
        • costergaard2

          7 years ago

          There are 29 teams without Ellsbury

          2
          Reply
    • R.D.

      7 years ago

      Nah but betts and benintendi are definitely potentially one peg below altuve this year. Its smart for them to be a little patient with them.

      Reply
      • MB923

        7 years ago

        Betts yes. Benintendi? Not even close. (Yet).

        1
        Reply
      • pasha2k

        7 years ago

        Severs may turn out to be a huge weapon.

        Reply
        • pasha2k

          7 years ago

          Devers^^

          Reply
    • tyronbiggums

      7 years ago

      Moreland isn’t going to be an offense guy, he’s known for his glove. Hanley will need a big year if he wants the 22m for next season

      Reply
    • mikeyank55

      7 years ago

      Hanley is washed up. He can’t get around on a fastball anymore. By the ASG he will figure a way to DL so he doesn’t have to play 1B.

      They will need more that Moreland and JD. The lineup is awfully short; especially in light of losing their Apple Watch advantage.

      2
      Reply
      • SKbreesy

        7 years ago

        Hanley will do everything he can to avoid the DL, if he goes on the DL for an extended period of time his option won’t vest. And there’s no way he’s going to make anywhere near 20 mil anywhere else.

        1
        Reply
      • SKbreesy

        7 years ago

        And the most important hitter for the Red Sox is Mookie, can he return to his 2016 form? If so the offense will already be better.

        Reply
        • pasha2k

          7 years ago

          And Bogarts

          Reply
      • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

        7 years ago

        Go back under your bridge to spew your nonsense.

        Reply
    • bandit

      7 years ago

      Moreland and Hanley produced consistently – they were bad all year

      Reply
  7. The Analyst

    7 years ago

    I think salaries are being suppressed because we’re in a transition period from traditional stats to advanced stats and the league hasn’t quite established which of these new stats are going to be universally valued and sought after. Once that happens, salaries will start getting bid up on those players and the world will resume turning again.

    Reply
    • pjmcnu

      7 years ago

      I think it has less to do with figuring out the newly valued stats & more to do with (1) all GMs valuing the same thing (so there’s no diversity of opinion to create a true market) and (2) GMs deciding (again, uniformly) that players over 30 aren’t valuable, while outdated service time rules (uniformly manipulated by those same GMs to provide extra years of control) ensure most MLB players don’t hit their FA years until they’re declared “old”. So most players find themselves under team control for almost all, if not all, of the years that those same teams now uniformly declare are their useful years. I have no problem with new thinking on age, as long as new thinking on service time is implemented.

      1
      Reply
      • martyvan90

        7 years ago

        Steroids distorted the aging curve and data has clearly defined value. Why should “new thinking on service time be implemented” without a negotiation? Not a shill for owners but the MLBPA negotiated the current deal.

        1
        Reply
      • yesgeo

        7 years ago

        good point about age… but much more important are all the retirement players who burned the teams by long term high pay with low performance. .. lies about their skills..
        better to do performance contracts or 2 year contracts so if proven to be retirement player them teams can negate the damage and put the clown on a farm somewhere instead in baseball…

        Reply
  8. customcrown

    7 years ago

    Only a matter of time til we return to the logic that had Heyward “settling” for a $190M contract lol

    1
    Reply
  9. joew

    7 years ago

    I feel bad for Walker. I wish the pirates had a spot for him but as it stands they have Freese, S-Rod and Frazier already to fill in the positions one would consider him for (not to mention upcoming prospects)

    Maybe if the pirates find takers for S-Rod and Freese and pick up neal at 3r/15M+small incentives and some options.on a bench/insurance role… if he is even interested.

    He isn’t going to find a 10M/year payday anywhere, there are just too many young studs coming up that are as good as he is and frankly a 2-3WAR player isn’t worth 15M/year any more unless you are a starting pitcher (and even then maybe not)

    the ‘problem’ isn’t that players or teams are greedy, the ‘problem’ is teams have realized they don’t need to pay 15M for an average everyday starting position player when they can get near the same on the field value for a fraction of the cost. Just because teams are rich doesn’t mean they should overpay.

    1
    Reply
    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      Neil will be happy with a 2 year deal at this point. The pirates have room for him if they want to pony up the money. Anyway he took the QO and made 17+ last year so I’m sure he’s not hurting too bad.

      1
      Reply
      • joew

        7 years ago

        eh they’d have to make room, with david sean and adam covering the positions he would playing. If they could find a taker for david or sean (also to offset walkers salary not that it would be needed)

        Reply
  10. R.D.

    7 years ago

    Thats an interesting perspective on the rays trade decisions. Doesnt change the fact that dickerson had a good deal of trade value.

    Reply
    • therealryan

      7 years ago

      As much as Rays fans, me included, thought Dickerson should have had a decent amount of surplus value as an above average hitting, 29 year old 2-2.5 WAR LF/DH with two arb seasons remaining, 29 MLB GMs did not agree. There is no way the Rays passed up better offers if they were out there. The average player is being highly devalued in this current market.

      1
      Reply
      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        7 years ago

        He clearly did not have much trade value. The market is overflowing with averagish, to be nice, corner defenders that are no longer in high demand. His bat wasn’t that special to demand surplus trade value. There are to many like type players that are cheaper to be had. His terrible 2nd half also did not do him any favors. So no it seems pretty clear the Rays only tendered him to try and extract some sort of value. The only problem with that was the saturation of these players on the market and the market really just at a complete stand still. The game appears to be running away from bad non versatile corner guys who aren’t elite hitters at their positions.

        Reply
    • tharrie0820

      7 years ago

      Dickerson had a good deal of trade value? Oh, so you know better than the Rays and every other team they negotiated with? Man, what are you doing commenting on MLBTR, go get a job in a club’s front office! Bet you’d have that team winning back to back to back to back to back to back to back World Series in no time!

      1
      Reply
      • Ookashfah

        7 years ago

        You realize that front office execs comment on this site all the time, right?

        Reply
  11. Phillies2017

    7 years ago

    My problem with the Rays moves isn’t what they did, it’s how they did it
    Logan Morrison, 38 home runs, no qualifying offer (Seeing as how he was projected to make over $30m, unlikely he took it)
    Corey Dickerson- All Star- Pretty much just dumped
    Jake Odorizzi-Very Valuable ML Starter- Given up for almost nothing
    Brad Boxberger- Strong controllable reliever- Given up for almost nothing

    I’m all for remodeling a team to make it a specific way, however at least get decent returns for what you are giving up. While it seems as if they have more of a plan, this reminds me of what Chip Kelly did when he massacred the Eagles by releasing DeSean Jackson and trading off Foles and Shady for almost nothing.

    Reply
  12. redsoxrob9418

    7 years ago

    Can’t wait to listen to the Yankees whine about there massive payroll and all the money they owe Over paid long term deals

    Reply
    • stratcrowder

      7 years ago

      We’re pretty happy with our team, and last time I checked, we’re still under the luxury tax and only sitting on one ‘bad’ contract in Ellsbury. 2018 and way beyond is looking pretty good without the need to pay out another large contract.

      Reply
  13. kingbum

    7 years ago

    Salaries are suppressed because you can’t pay everyone 11 figures and expect to be viable in the future….There is a ceiling to the risk owners are willing to expose themselves to, and you minimize risk by bringing in pre-arbitration talent. What this does for the future is put a huge premium on draft picks

    Reply

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Please login to leave a reply.

Log in Register

ad: 300x250_1_MLB

  • Top Stories
  • Recent

Rockies Fire Bud Black

Cubs Promote Cade Horton

Rafael Devers Unwilling To Play First Base

Pirates Fire Manager Derek Shelton

Mariners Claim Leody Taveras

Rangers Hire Bret Boone As Hitting Coach

A.J. Minter To Undergo Season-Ending Lat Surgery

Blue Jays Sign Spencer Turnbull

Blue Jays Sign José Ureña

Ross Stripling Retires

Rangers Place Leody Taveras On Outright Waivers

Triston Casas Likely To Miss Entire 2025 Season Due To Knee Surgery

Orioles Recall Coby Mayo

Dodgers Recall Hyeseong Kim

Triston Casas Suffers “Significant Knee Injury”

Angels Place Mike Trout On 10-Day Injured List

Rangers Option Jake Burger

Tigers Designate Kenta Maeda For Assignment

Reds Option Alexis Diaz

Orioles Move Charlie Morton To Bullpen

MLBTR Live Chat

Rockies Fire Bud Black

Latest On Blake Snell

Cubs Sign Tommy Romero To Minor League Deal

Orioles Activate Zach Eflin

Jose Altuve Exits Due To Hamstring Tightness

Rockies Select Ryan Rolison, Transfer Kris Bryant To 60-Day IL

Giants Notes: Hicks, Encarnacion, First Base

Mets Among Teams To Show Recent Interest In Luis Robert Jr.

Brewers Option Tobias Myers

ad: 300x250_5_side_mlb

MLBTR Newsletter - Hot stove highlights in your inbox, five days a week

Latest Rumors & News

Latest Rumors & News

  • 2024-25 Top 50 MLB Free Agents With Predictions
  • Nolan Arenado Rumors
  • Dylan Cease Rumors
  • Luis Robert Rumors
  • Marcus Stroman Rumors

 

Trade Rumors App for iOS and Android

MLBTR Features

MLBTR Features

  • Remove Ads, Support Our Writers
  • Front Office Originals
  • Front Office Fantasy Baseball
  • MLBTR Podcast
  • 2024-25 Offseason Outlook Series
  • 2025 Arbitration Projections
  • 2024-25 MLB Free Agent List
  • 2025-26 MLB Free Agent List
  • Contract Tracker
  • Transaction Tracker
  • Extension Tracker
  • Agency Database
  • MLBTR On Twitter
  • MLBTR On Facebook
  • Team Facebook Pages
  • How To Set Up Notifications For Breaking News
  • Hoops Rumors
  • Pro Football Rumors
  • Pro Hockey Rumors

Rumors By Team

  • Angels Rumors
  • Astros Rumors
  • Athletics Rumors
  • Blue Jays Rumors
  • Braves Rumors
  • Brewers Rumors
  • Cardinals Rumors
  • Cubs Rumors
  • Diamondbacks Rumors
  • Dodgers Rumors
  • Giants Rumors
  • Guardians Rumors
  • Mariners Rumors
  • Marlins Rumors
  • Mets Rumors
  • Nationals Rumors
  • Orioles Rumors
  • Padres Rumors
  • Phillies Rumors
  • Pirates Rumors
  • Rangers Rumors
  • Rays Rumors
  • Red Sox Rumors
  • Reds Rumors
  • Rockies Rumors
  • Royals Rumors
  • Tigers Rumors
  • Twins Rumors
  • White Sox Rumors
  • Yankees Rumors

ad: 160x600_MLB

Navigation

  • Sitemap
  • Archives
  • RSS/Twitter Feeds By Team

MLBTR INFO

  • Advertise
  • About
  • Commenting Policy
  • Privacy Policy

Connect

  • Contact Us
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • RSS Feed

MLB Trade Rumors is not affiliated with Major League Baseball, MLB or MLB.com

hide arrows scroll to top

Register

Desktop Version | Switch To Mobile Version