We’re still over a month away from the trade deadline but the hot stove is already percolating. Here’s some trade buzz from around the majors…
- The Red Sox are one of several teams who are scouting Orioles southpaw Zach Britton, the Boston Globe’s Nick Cafardo reports. Craig Kimbrel wouldn’t be in any danger of losing his closing job if Britton joined the Sox, though Britton would be a setup man and big left-handed weapon out of Boston’s pen. Brian Johnson is currently the only lefty reliever on the 25-man roster, though Bobby Poyner (currently in Triple-A) has posted some solid results when pitching for the big league team. MLBTR’s Steve Adams recently explored Britton’s value as a trade candidate, noting that virtually every contender will, or should, be monitoring Britton as he continues his return from offseason Achilles surgery.
- Also from Cafardo, he adds the Red Sox and Braves to the list of teams with some interest in veteran third baseman Adrian Beltre. With Rafael Devers on Boston’s big league roster and Braves top prospect Austin Riley looming at Triple-A, both teams could make sense for a short-term upgrade like Beltre, who is only signed through this season. While Beltre seems like a natural trade chip for a Rangers team that is well out of contention, there still remains some speculation as to whether or not Texas will actually move him, as the team heavily values Beltre’s leadership and wants him on the roster in 2019. Beltre also has no-trade protection via 10-and-5 rights. Still, the Rangers are at least shopping Beltre (and other players) to gauge trade interest, and it can’t hurt that multiple contenders could be in the market for third base help.
- The Dodgers will be looking for relief help but otherwise don’t have any really obvious areas of need on their roster, Ken Rosenthal notes in a FOXSports.com video report. This will allow the Dodgers to pursue the best players available on the trade market and “be picky” if they don’t like the asking price for a big-name rental player (i.e. Manny Machado).
- Left-hander Matthew Boyd “is one of the Tigers’ most coveted players in trade talks,” MLB.com’s Jon Paul Morosi writes. Even after a rough outing against Cleveland today, Boyd still has solid overall numbers this season, with a 4.15 ERA and 7.54 K/9 through 82 1/3 innings. Advanced metrics aren’t nearly as high on Boyd’s work, however, so Detroit could explore a trade when Boyd is at his peak value, even though he is just 27 and isn’t eligible for arbitration until this winter. Morosi speculates that the Mariners could target Boyd based on their past attempt to trade for him in the 2016-17 offseason, when GM Jerry Dipoto offered Taijuan Walker and prospects to the Tigers for Boyd and J.D. Martinez.
pasha2k
I’m not gonna say anything cept I love Devers, n would be sad if he left. In a few yrs I see him like Ortiz. It would be a sin to lose him. Plus he hits Chapman.
adshadbolt
He needs to stop trying to pull balls 500 ft and go back to hitting the ball off the monster
Russianblue
He hit Chapman last year when Chapman was struggling. Nothing since then.
deweybelongsinthehall
Devers is young and likely the long term 3B option but as I’ve repeatedly said, what’s wrong with trying to get Beltre to teach him how to man the position?
stansfield123
Hi, chimp. Whaccha been up to?
Steven Chinwood
Pash once doesn’t mean consistency…
pasha2k
Time will tell. Look what the 2004 team did to Rivera. Not same hitters but you never know.
redsox 1976
DD should trade Devers -Travis-Groome and Chavis plus Swihart for deGrom-Cabrera and Gsellman!! Yes or no
getright11
This SAME trade, only now in a slightly more ludicrous form, has been proposed 100x on here.
Mets wouldn’t think once about it.
pasha2k
Glad you didn’t include Holt!!!
jdgoat
It’s probably good that that trade didn’t work out for Seattle. As good as Martinez is, Haniger and Segura are going to provide more value.
Michael Chaney
Plus it’s not a given that they would have re-signed JD. And even if they did, he’d take a much bigger chunk of their payroll than Haniger and Segura do at the moment.
pasha2k
Some time the best trades are ones not done.
madmanTX
Teams need to show the Rangers some real trade offers or don’t even bother picking up the phone.
bravesfan88
Why is that?? It doesn’t really look like the Rangers have a ton of leverage in hardly any potential deals..Maybe if teams want Mozara, but that’s really about it..
jdgoat
Right. Literally at least 8-10 other teams will be selling. It’s not like it’s a sellers market and Daniels doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to trades.
Michael Chaney
He’s just a Rangers fan that isn’t used to his team selling and expects way too much. With the guys they have on the market, they might get a few lottery tickets and that’s it.
JoeyPankake
Don’t worry, the phone isn’t going to be ringing off the hook for a 40 year old infielder or a mediocre starter who is also past his prime.
Knowthemarket
What do you feel is a real offer? I don’t know that I would be comfortable with the Braves trading a top 100 prospect for Beltre let alone a better one. It’s just two months of the guys services and the Rangers might even resign him in 2019
badco44
And Beltre needs to stay off the DL to be worth anything!
deweybelongsinthehall
If Beltre asks, they will accommodate him, knowing they will likely resign him in the off season.
jfoug3
In all honesty, I don’t think the Braves necessarily need Beltre. But there is a trade option between the 2 clubs, given they have Hamels in the rotation. I wouldn’t necessarily ask for Hamels alone given the amount of payroll that would need to be allocated but you might be able to work out something like Hamels, Kela and Leclerc for the likes of Wisler, Josh Graham, Derian Cruz and Tucker Davidson.
barberharry22
Real trade offers for who madmanTX? Beltre is way past his prime. Great clubhouse guy and still is a good player but they aren’t gonna get anything overwhelming for him.
Solaris601
Beltre holds value for a number of teams who need a 3B rental, but I don’t think anyone will offer something to TEX to make it a worthwhile trade.
deweybelongsinthehall
Recent injury history warrants either payroll relief to Texas for Beltre with a long shot minor leaguer in exchange or Texas pays the freight for a modest prospect. They will only trade him if he asks (10/5).
Jerryred
but if u think the rangers are going to take c prospect then dont call them because they wont trade him, they are going to try to resign him
iverbure
The Rangers would be foolish not to explain to Beltre we want you back for next year but we also want to trade you to a contender so you can chase a ring. Once the offseason begins we will offer you a contract for next year.
Connorsoxfan
See the Yankees and Chapman.
bobtillman
Like most Red Sox fans, I’m sure they can get both Machado and Britton (probably Gyvens too) if they’re willing to part with Blake Swihart……..
hiflew
The Orioles would probably have to throw in some international bonus slots too. It’s not like they are going to use them anyway.
start_wearing_purple
You’re wrong… The O’s need to throw in Jones.
Connorsoxfan
I’d rather have Swihart.
Connorsoxfan
That’s a joke by the way
NotaGM
I won’t discount it but the sox may have ask on Britton but Baltimore wont trade unless they on upper half within the devision.
I won’t be surprise its 2004 and if sox trade its more for less notitable but more impactful players
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SKbreesy
Sox and Os have trades before and done so recently, when the Sox traded A. Miller to the O’s for Eduardo Rodriguez.
Angelos doesn’t hate Boston like he hates New York.
stansfield123
Oh yeah, that pri#k’s gonna probably take a lesser deal, just to try and help Boston beat the Yanks.
Not that it matters….the Yankees have the money and prospects to get anything they need off the other 15 non-contending teams in the league, and will comfortably match the Red Sox’ every move.
Knowthemarket
I like the idea of Beltre playing the hot corner for the Braves but as implied I think he is one of those Rangers that is more valuable to the Rangers then the rest of baseball, and I get that. He has ment a lot to the team and the fans and so it’s really difficult putting a price on those intangibles.
I can see how this could play out though. Trade him away for prospects and resign him in the off-season. The Rangers lose nothing and only gain.
However, who would I feel comfortable with the Braves trading away to aquire him? Maybe Kyle Mueler as the headliner? I can almost begin to suggest Cristian Pache but even that makes me squirm a bit. It’s tough giving up someone with much potential when you know you are probably only getting two months of service from the guy.
southi
I seriously would be shocked if the braves paid anything more than a organizational number 15-30 prospect for Beltre. He has been a hall of fame type player and should be a big asset to any clubhouse, BUT Beltre is an injury risk anytime he steps on the field and has seemingly lost his power this season.
I just don’t currently think Beltre would provide much more on the field production than Camargo has recently to warrant the risks associated with paying a higher price talent wise to acquire him. Certainly not anyone close to Pache’s level or Muller.
Braveslifer
I started thinking about this and wondered if Profar would also be available? I think he needs a change of scenery and would do well in Atlanta as a super utility guy (better than Tucker). This may be easier to build a package for him and Beltre. I’m big on Beltre because of the youth we have and coupling him and Markakis in molding these guys will be good for everyone involved.
fw-
I agree with south. I’m not giving the Rangers Muller or Pache unless they added someone like Kela to the deal. The Braves need more assurance than just Beltre if they’re going to part with those types of prospects.
ultimatepeltsnatcher
3 team deal with Sox/Rangers/Orioles Devers to Rangers for Beltre plus high level prospect. JBJ, Swihart, Groome, high level prospect from Rangers to Orioles for Britton and Jones. Sox will go after Machado in FA or Beltre one more year. Go ahead and complain…..
rsoxfan4ever
Lol ur a moron ain’t happening
ultimatepeltsnatcher
Moron? Ur immature and a clown. I bet u take the 240 bus huh donkey?
#CantTeachExperience
SKbreesy
So the Sox get rid of Devers and their number 1 prospect in Groome for a half year of Beltre, Jones, and Britton?
I just don’t see them doing that.
ultimatepeltsnatcher
Britton gets signed as Kimbrel not worth the long term deal. Jones stays. Beltre May sign too or they go after Machado or Moustakis.
rsoxfan4ever
Up yours loser u can’t the heat stay outta the kitchen
ultimatepeltsnatcher
Ok pink hat clown. Lol loser
ultimatepeltsnatcher
rsoxfab4ever u gonna sing sweet Caroline for us too? Donkey
ultimatepeltsnatcher
Last one rsoxfan4ever ur definitely a dude that lives in mom and dads basement selling eBay eating meatball subs..don’t get mad cuz I’m right. Zero
Bruin1012
Don’t forget JBJ and Swihart as well there is no way Boston trades all that control for three free agents at the end of the year. DD just isn’t that dumb.
stansfield123
The Red Sox are over $240M payroll already, and they’re not getting a lot of salary relief next 2 years, either, because arbitration costs are going up as some of the free agent contracts end.
So, if you think they can afford to add all that salary, you’re daydreaming. They can’t even afford those three mediocre rentals you listed, let alone Machado in FA.
Which also means they can’t afford to get rid of players making minimum wage or close to it, like Devers or Bradley.
jdgoat
Did you just call Britton mediocre? And anradle you isn’t making close to minimum wage this year. He’s at 6.1 million in arbitration.
jbigz12
If Britton doesn’t get his command back he’s not going to be much. I’m not giving up after 6 innings but he needs to be lights out again for us to get an interesting prospect back. I really hope he does because I know how good this guy can be.
rocky7
And, if Britton does get back to lights out quickly, the number of suitors and the price they will be willing to pay will go up geometrically which doesn’t bode well for the Sox either.
He’s not coming as cheap as they wish!
jdgoat
Wow that was supposed to say Bradley
stansfield123
Yes, I did call Britton mediocre, in the current context.
If he was a free agent, I would take a flier on him on a 3-4 year contract, sure, because that’s enough time for him to recover from this string of injuries, and get back to his old self.
But, in the short term, he has limited value. Contending teams have no use for a maybe, in the bullpen. They need arms you can be reasonably sure will perform in the next three months. Britton couldn’t be further away from that.
jdgoat
I get that and he’s definitely hasn’t shown he’s back to being a top reliever. But I could see him being this years Morrow of sorts. You might not expect much but then he’ll come out of nowhere and completely dominate the playoffs
jbigz12
Morrow pitched very well in the regular season. Britton has a couple of weeks to show it.
Bruin1012
Red Sox are at around 231 million for lux tax purposes they will not go to 237 million to avoid losing 10 spots on their first round pick next year. The Red Sox only care about about the salary that counts towards the lux tax.
heathz917
Lmao that’s a reach. Trading Devers, Groome and whatever high level prospect you THINK you’ll get from Texas for Britton, who hasn’t been healthy for over a year and a washed up Adam Jones? Whatever it is that you’re on, I’ll take two because damn you’re tripping hard.
rocky7
Who would even want Groome?
We keep hearing about Groome being tradeable…..really!
You’d be paying him to rehab for a year and even if he comes back, who knows what kind of pitcher he will be when he does eventually come back.
TJ surgery does not guarantee success afterwards.
jdgoat
Groome still has value. Puk still has value. Honeywell still has value. We’re at an age where almost all arms eventually get TJS, it’s not the career killer it once was. To think Boston can’t land anyone valuable for Groome is wrong and borderline idiotic.
iverbure
Who would even want Groome? Umm every single franchise, literally every single one would still love acquire him.
rocky7
You know JDGoat I was almost going to agree with you until you made the borderline idiotic comment….As_hole!
Why don’t you just go away! All opinions are welcomed or did you just get anointed God!
rocky7
Your opinion iverbure….he hasn’t proved anything except being a high draft choice for the Sox….he could be Cy Young or he could be a has been who never was.
As a throw in on a trade may make sense….as a headliner based on being a high draft choice why?
PopeMarley
Boom…Watch out for the shrapnel people
jdgoat
So your opinion is that nobody wants Groome and that he’s not tradeable because he’s injured? Because that’s what your first two sentences seem to be implying, and it is so terribly wrong.
Were Fowler and Kap also untradeable or is it different since they were Yankee prospects?
It’s fine to have a difference of opinion, but you have to also realize that you might be called out for bad opinions.
jbigz12
Groome isn’t rated highly because he was a “high draft choice.” Mickey Moniak was the #1 overall pick but nobody cares about that anymore. Groome pitched well in the minors, and is now getting TJ. Like many others before him and many after him. His value has taken a hit because you lose a year of development and their is a risk he isn’t the same anymore. However, I don’t think GM’s are terribly concerned with him not being able to throw when he comes back. You obviously have to discount his value for the lost development year and uncertain recovery time But, if you think a guy who was considered a top 40 prospect in baseball can’t land you a decent player in return because of TJ. That’s pretty stupid.
pasha2k
Why in Gods name does everyone want to trade Devers? He’s a kid with great potential, he’s so young, n he could be worth the wait before you go n trade him away.
Bruin1012
The Red Sox aren’t trading Devers for rentals. The Red Sox aren’t even trading Devers for Machado as a rental. The kid is 21 has a ton of control left and a ton of talent. He is already there starting third baseman and is getting better and better all the time. He is just now adjusting to how the league is pitching to him he will be fine. Most all young players go through the same thing this is a tough league and pitchers will adjust to you.
dhud
Reds-Dodgers trade centered around Iglesias and Urias and/or Verdugo could be a good fit for both teams
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Don’t count on it. The Dodgers aren’t going to sell low on Urias and really they don’t need RH RPs. They’ll actually have an influx of RH that they can transition back to the pen. Their focus will probably be on the lh rp market.
stansfield123
15 errors for Devers, and it’s not even July. Aren’t prospects supposed to be called up AFTER they learn to play at least one position?
padreforlife
Ha
pasha2k
He’s a kid, a yougnin, who we all need to support. 3rd base is the hot corner n he won’t be Brooks Robinson prolly never
ever, but maybe better then now.
stansfield123
The Rangers got Carlos Beltran (who was in the middle of a fully healthy season, hitting .300 with 22 homers and a .900 OPS, at the time of the trade) for a struggling pitching prospect in low A, who was nowhere near the top 100.
That’s about what they should expect to get for Beltre.
Hamels is worth more, but a lot of his value is nullified by the massive money he’s owed. So no ranked prospects in that trade, either.
rocky7
That was then this is now…..The paradigm has changed radically as far as team expectations of return for established players.
Beltre, when healthy is an offensive threat and on the right team can put them over the top.
thecoffinnail
That was only 2 years ago. Beltre might not even bring that back. There are several players including Donaldson and Moustakas who will be 3rd base options on the market this year. Not to mention Machado. If the Rangers are offered someone similar to Tate they should jump on it.
rocky7
Well, isn’t it possible that the asking price, either as a rental or long term contract is unattractive to the Rangers so they pass on Machado.
Donaldson has been hurt all year and isn’t playing like the Donaldson of the past so a rental is a hugh gamble.
Moustakis’ numbers have been trending downwards for quite some time so the only proven day in day out guy that hits and plays average at least defense is Beltre!
stansfield123
Only thing Beltre is guaranteed to do is retire soon.
fireboss
Not sure what Cafardo is smoking. Beltre has $9M coming the rest of this season, far beyond anything the Braves would take on for a rental of a player who is not the final piece that puts the Braves into a World Series.
Maybe he knows a lot about Boston, in fact, I’m sure he does. Reading his fabrications about the Braves over the past year makes me wonder if he actually knows anybody in Atlanta.
His inside information so far amounts to fantasy baseball level background knowledge. If the Braves could get Beltre for a modest prospect and Texas would pay the bills, sure. That’s a fantasy of the highest order unworthy of a writer paid to know the business.
jorge78
Didn’t Liberty Media screw the Braves on their TV deal which they gave for cheap to one of their other divisions? Am I remembering this right?
RunDMC
No, that was an anonymous executive for Time Warner that signed that before the sell. It was pre-Liberty, though there have been reports they’ve attempted to try and restructure, but I believe I keep reading it’s pretty much iron-clad until 2028 (?)
jorge78
Thanks!
tonysdog01
Wait you could be the Mets and own your own network and make barrels full of money but have the budget of the Toledo Mud hens.
Pax vobiscum
If it means keeping Beltre out of Philadelphia it might make some sense.
rocky7
Agreed about Cafardo and now even sure why he is considered a Boston Sox expert either. Much of what he writes about is pure fantasy.
SKbreesy
No one in Boston pays any attention to him
heathz917
Not sure how I feel about the Boyd rumors. I don’t think he’s worth a Walker-esque prospect at this point. I was skittish about Avila during this rebuild at first, but he seems to be taking them in the right direction. Trade Fulmer in the offseason, get a Chris Sale-like return, and listen in on Castellanos.
Nego
Because Micheal Fulmer is clearly worth the package that Sale went for
heathz917
I said sale-like.
doxiedevil
The Braves need pitching help period……. especially the second half.
jfoug3
I’m the Braves, I’m looking at something along these lines. This would check off all of their needs at once. I’d look to get Beltre, Hamels, Leclerc plus 6m for a return of Wisler, Derian Cruz, Josh Graham and Tucker Davidson.
stansfield123
Hamels? Seriously, you think the Braves are gonna pay Hamels’ salary?
That team will never spend to win. EVER. Forget it.
jorge78
Exactly. They don’t have a rich owner. They have a “minder” who is a bean counter. They’re on their own cash flow wise.
tonysdog01
Is Matthew Oil Cans son? Or Woody Boyd’s cousin? Is Oil Can related to Woody Boyd in any way? I think Woody pitched for Hanover High. Maybe not. Where’s Sam Malone when you need him?
Larky
Put Cole back in the National league he can Win lots of Games for a contender