As a whirlwind of rumors continues to surround Manny Machado, suitors for the All-Star seem to fall in and out of the mix by the day, and frontrunners seem to emerge and recede like horses at the racetrack. Last we heard earlier today, the Orioles were beginning to narrow their search, with the Phillies and Brewers among the finalists. But a flurry of whispers have given the situation a slightly different outlook over the past hour. Here’s what we’ve heard…
- Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets that the Dodgers remain in the mix for Machado, while the Brewers and Phillies continue to be in “consistent contact” with the Orioles. The Yankees, however, reportedly seem “less involved”. Rosenthal notes that the situation is hardly predictable considering the politics of Baltimore’s front office at present. Last we heard, the Orioles were targeting Dustin May and Gavin Lux in talks with the Dodgers, neither of whom figured to be available.
- Correspondingly, Bob Nightengale of USA Today Sports tweets that rival executives believe that the Dodgers will acquire Machado, though the wording of his tweet is somewhat confusing and leaves room for interpretation.
- In talks with the Phillies, the Orioles showed some interest in recently-promoted starter Enyel De Los Santos, Jon Heyman of Fancred hears. Unsurprisingly, Philadelphia prefers not to include him (probably in part because he’s now contributing in the majors). Heyman quotes Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports as listing Adonis Medina, Jhailyn Ortiz, Ranger Suarez, Arquimedes Gamboa and Franklyn Kilome as other names of interest to the Orioles.
- In a video for FOX Sports, Rosenthal says the Orioles would prefer to separate Machado and reliever Zach Britton in trade discussions, believing they can maximize their return by moving them in separate deals. That could be in part because the Astros (who are not likely suitors for Machado) have interest in Britton.
Starting to think these reporters have no clue of anything. Every hour it’s something different. One hour the Yankees are the favorite then it’s the Phillies, now it’s other teams still involved.
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And for awhile they had the Phillies as backing off.
All I can say is that as a Phillies fan I’m loving being relevant during the hot stove again.
The Phillies have been relevant during the hot stove the past few years… but only in who they were selling off.
Should’ve stated “on the buying end of the hot stove.”
Winter is hot stove season, not now.
Yea, this is more of a warm oven.
Yanks would have to outbid others for the O’s to make that bid. If all offers are relatively equal, the Yanks—an intense rival of the O’s—will be on the outside looking in.
To be fair the orioles only rival the royals lol
I agree with this comment, but I don’t think it’s a terrible thing for the O’s to deal him to the Yanks. If they can get some good to great pieces back to better their team then why not deal in the division and steal some talent from a rival? As a Jays fan I am hoping they can work something out with Happ and the Yanks. I don’t see Happ staying in New York long term and Machado may not either if he can’t play short. The Phillies seem like the best fit long term
Yes, I (an O’s fan) have no problem with them dealing MM to the Yanks—provided they get a very good return.
I agree. The Yanks, not the Orioles, are the ones who should be hesitant about making that trade. They have to give up impact prospects for a guy who they will lose after the season then face those impact prospects playing for a division rival for potentially the next decade.
The Yankees have to raise money to pay Judge and others in the near future. After the season they go straight at Corbin…..and if that fails, after Keuchel or Gio. No way they give Manny $30-plus mil long term. And Manny thinks he’s a SS, while the Yankees have 4 players on their 40-man that play it better then him. Meaning they lose him after the season, leaving doubts between Miggy, Didi, Glabor, and Torreyes who are all tight and form a core of the Yanks future – upsetting a 2-3 year build for the next 5-7 years. Manny to the Yankees makes no sense. Never did.
These 2-3 daily Manny rumors are simply ridiculous – most of them fabricated for clicks.
You post this same crap on every Machado article. Guess you gotta have something to post when theirs no Hand articles, buts it’s way old bruh.
Really.
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I agree that it should take more to trade to a rival who you’ll be facing regularly, I disagree with the policy teams sometimes have that it will take a ton to trade to a rival.
I wonder if the white sox regret not engaging in serious trade talks with the cubs for years (Quintana was a change in policy on that one). Maybe they’d have gotten what would have ended up being a better deal for Sale. I know Moncada is still young and has shown some real upside but he hasn’t lived up to that top prospect hype yet. Maybe they could have pried Baez from the cubs back in 2016. I’m sure they’d rather have him than Moncada right now.
It’d be stupid to take an inferior offer from someone else if the Yanks make the best offer. The Yanks would only be getting Machado for the rest of this season, which largely doesn’t matter for the O’s.
I agree that it would be stupid but it is a thing that teams do. Epstein has said that when the white sox were shopping sale that they wanted “Bryant plus”. Bryant was the reigning NL MVP at the time. They clearly would only take an insane impossible haul from the cubs for him
Completely different situation. Sale had 3 years of control left. Machado has 2 months. Is watching Machado play for a division rival for two months when you aren’t contending really not worth getting the best return possible?
Again, the Yankees, not the Orioles, are the ones who should be hesitant about this one.
But only for 2 months. Everyone of the teams bidding knows that they have no shot resigning him. He is a straight rental and Machado is going to sign with the Yankees over the winter. That’s the Yankees advantage. They have a surplus, and teams aren’t going to give their top prospect for a 2 month rental unless they know it’s going to win them the World Series, something any National League team has to be skeptical about with the 3 monsters over in the AL.
If the Yankees give the best offer, then the Orioles would be stupid not to take it even if it puts Machado in the division. One, the team needs to get better and you get the best deal you can get. Two, it’s unlikely that the team would sign Machado long term unless they decide to move Gregorius. I’m convinced that Machado will only sign a FA contract with a team that will let him play SS.
Machado will probably retire before the O’s have a legitimate shot again, they should just take the best deal and be done with it, regardless who its from.
Everyone knows the Yankees will chase any shiny object whether or not they intend to reel it in.
They’re making things up for clicks. Painfully obvious
“and frontrunners seem to emerge and recede like horses at the racetrack”
Group fiction authored by Heyman, Nightengale, Rosenthal and Olney.
Those people are worse then the political media.
I don’t see you on FOX during the game being interviewed.
I’m with ya.
It’s pretty obvious the Orioles are leaking intentionally to drive up the hype/price.
That’s because baseball executives are known liars, especially around trade deadline time.
You have to think that if they want to the Yankees can match any offer. Cashman will wait it out
No, as I said above, matching an offer won’t get it done; he’ll ha e to EXCEED the other offers. I don’t think he’s ready to do that.
The Phillies can also match any offer. Yankees and Phillies are also both capable of upping any offer to a level most teams can’t reach with their given prospects. It’s all a matter of what they are willing to give up for such a huge risk.
The brewers farm is loaded
Brewers have 2, maybe 3 decent prospects. Not loaded! There isn’t much besides Hiura and Burnes.
That picture is ridiculous
Baltimore has 0 leverage in this. Should’ve been this serious about trading him a year and a half ago.
O’s have ALL the leverage here pal. Wishful thinking isn’t the same as reason.
No, the only leverage the Orioles have is demand from other teams and the qualifying offer.
Ummmmmm, I’d say that demand from many others is tantamount to leverage.
What leverage? Machado is a superstar. Landed him with 2+ years of control would garner one of any teams top 2 prospects, and then some. But with half a season of control? No smart team with a real shot of signing him at seasons end will give Baltimore that, plus pay him a huge sum of money in the off-season. So now, Baltimore has to take the best of what they can get.
They don’t have any leverage at all other than hoping that someone starts a bidding war. They basically have to trade him because otherwise they’ll just get a comp pick, and teams know that so they aren’t willing to trade their top guys for him.
“They don’t have any leverage at all other than hoping that someone starts a bidding war.”
The only bidders are Heyman, Nightengale, Rosenthal and Olney.
That makes zero sense. If a team wants him they have to outbid every other team in contention. Ultimate leverage.
They don’t have leverage in that they can’t walk away from the table if they don’t get what they want.
Well… Technically they can. And it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they do. But they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did that.
They wouldn’t listen to me!! I’ve been screaming it for two years, easy.
I agree they should have traded a whole slew of guys while they were at their peak and more control. Not like they went all out to contend they did nothing
A year and a half ago we were coming off an 89 win playoff season with no reason to think we wouldn’t compete again in 17 which we did until the wheels came off the cart with 23 games left. We were 71-68 with everyone underperforming except Schoop. When your close, you go for it! What’s the point if your always playing for the future?
One, they were serious about trading Machado, they were just very determined to get a high return and no one was willing to offer what they wanted. Two, Baltimore has all the leverage since they are the team with the Machado.
Bob Nightengale is the definition of a moron. How is the guy employed? Geez…
He better than NY Groupie Joel Sherman who’s been wrong a lot over the last couple of years,sometimes it all subjective anyway
If Skip Bayless has a job anyone is employable
Happens tonight and a 3 Way between Baltimore/Miluakee/Cleveland or Houston.
I know you’re just speculating, but please elaborate (that sounds sarcastic but I’m actually intrigued)
Send Andujar to get the deal done
People need to remember when assessing the value for these trades that #4 team prospect varies in value from team to team. Like the #5 Yankees prospect is most likely a number 2 or 3 prospect on other teams because how deep the farm is.
I’m sorry please stop with this Yankee farm system crap. They have a deep system with talent but their front end is not great just good. Medina or Adams hopefully is not my system’s number 2 or 3 top prospect.
Chance Adams is nowhere close to a top prospect. I suggest you take a look at their farm system again
Medina has an ERA over 8 in Rookie ball. I think you should take a look at their farm system again
The Padres would have been a better example with 6 prospects in the top 50 in baseball and 9 in the top 100. Their #7 prospect would be the Orioles best prospect..
The Yankees have a very deep system with a few very good prospects but they currently lack any elite prospects. Although, 4 at-bats and DL time is what cost Frazier his prospect status last year. He would be considered an elite prospect imo.
Make it stop…..
Reminding me of the JDM posts before he finaly signed. Looking forward to August 1st.
The only thing thatLA Dodgers have more of than Blue is Green and they need to replace Seager period. Machado would cement them as favorites to win it all.
1 Year of Freddy Galvis > 6+ years of Enyel De los Santos > 2 months of Machado, according to AJ Preller… #ScrewLogic
Don’t get me wrong, I like Freddy Galvis, but that trade looks more lopsided every passing day.
Trade was a complete joke from the get-go.
Why don’t we wait until something actually happens?
The Orioles could be manipulating the market with false flags…..
Or flagging down buyers with false markets
Dodgers have more green than blue……Seager out, Machado in gives them World Series.
Not with that bullpen and injury-prone rotation.
With that pitching? Wishful thinking. Come playoff time, they’ll be throwing batting practice.
Dodgers need more pitching, not Machado. not a good fit even for the rest of the season
Just trade him already jeez
I still think the most annoying speculation of an eventual trade was the Cole Hamels drama in 2015 when it seemed like updates were posted almost hourly for a solid month leading up to him landing in TEX (which few writers predicted). The Stanton and Ohtani sagas last winter were 2nd and 3rd on my list, but the constant chatter about Machado is moving right up the list.
please Brewers just sign him already with Machado we are a world series team without him we might be a wildcard team
Hahaha. Does he pitch? With it without him, Milwaukee isn’t even a division winner.
I want to respond to your post but it litteraly makes no sense as a sentence so I will assume you think the Brewers are great since you are apparently illiterate.
Know the stats before making comments like that, the Brewers biggest issue this season hasn’t been their pitching. Their offense has been average and stumbling as of late. Major league front offices wouldn’t be so focused on offense if it wasn’t a huge need
Sounds like the Yankees, except with or without him they’ll blow through this season and trail the Sox and have to play a 1 game playin playoff.
It would be awesome to see him go to the Phillies and they give up a bunch of their top prospects for two months they’re not going to win the World Series by just acquiring in no way in hell is he going to stay with the Phillies once he hits free agency when he can go to the Yankees or the Dodgers when they are throwing the bank at him so enjoy him for two months go to the playoffs more likely lose in the first round basically was for nothing
The Phillies have just as much money to play with as anyone else. If they want him badly enough, they could throw a fat offer at him.
Manny is hitting free agency. It will be a frenzy. I highly doubt philly would land him.
Philly has as much chance as anyone willing to give Manny a 400 million dollar contract.
The Phillies can out spend anyone for Machado, and with their current GM, I worry they will overspend. The current GM has yet to make a good move since he was hired!
Don’t count Billy Beane out of the equation. He is laying low waiting to strike!!
By trading away anyone who’s good for cheaper bums and resulting in winning absolutely nothing in his career? Sure.
John Middleton pull up flaps the Phillies are not one player away from winning a Championship save your assets get Machado in the off season.
over it
Dumbass Os are gonna get dicked, watch.
Gross
Could simply be the Orioles going around to the same teams, trying to get them to up the low bids (in the O’s eyes) for their 2 month rental.
Brewers will pull this out along with an SP to keep them right there with the cubs all year. Oh, and complaining about the number of trade rumors on a trade rumor site is like complaining about all the nakedness on a porn site.
Boozers have crashed and won’t keep up with Cubs, no matter what trades they make
The thing is Duquette does not work this fast.
He uses a rotary phone and when a trade is finally consummated white smoke emits from the Warehouse stacks.
The real value for the Phillies in getting Machado is ticket sales. He would be the big final rebuild piece that gets the fan base pumped back up for baseball and into the seats. While he probably won’t bring them a trip to the world series, he does make them the favorite in the east and that will sell a bunch of tickets.
Are the Phillies not currently selling out?
Lol. Not even close.
And what will happen to the fanbase when they lose him after 2 months?
I think Machado would be the final piece for the line up but i still believe they need a bullpen arm and another starter.
For anyone wondering… Zach Britton has returned!! By the deadline, the battle for his services should be fierce!
I still don’t understand the Yankees interest in him other than surface level. They have plenty of power in their lineup and would be much better suited to try and pry away some pitching from the Mets if they could get one of their aces without selling the farm. But as a Sox fan, Id rather them go after Manny.
manny is a good player , is andujar as good. Not now but he has potential I hope the Yankees are just blowing smoke so all these other teams bid up each other and the Yankees cruise for a couple starting pitcher deals
Why would the Yankees be in favor of driving up the price exactly? The Yankees are the Orioles division rival. The bigger and more impressive the haul they get, the worse it could be for the Yankees in the long run.
Who has the better pitching prospects out of the stated interested teams?
Braves, Yankees, Phillies Dodgers in that order.. I doubt the Yankees trade Sheffield and I doubt the Phillies trade Sixto. If that is indeed the case then you could probably have the Dodgers leap frog them both. The Orioles have always taken an oddball approach to pitching though. So, it wouldn’t surprise me if they viewed the Brewers as having the best.
What will probably happen is the O’s will agree to a deal and then blow it up the next day after the prospects they agree to fail the Orioles physical and they get stuck with Machado for the rest of the season..
Thanks for the info/reply. Let’s hope it all goes smoothly and it’s a win-win for both sides. Would really like to see the Orioles be smart and trade off multiple pieces to help restock their system. If they do get controllable pitching I also hope they put the right staff together to develop the talent on the pitching end – we all know they’ve struggled with that piece.
im sorry but the yankees can stay away from Machado, they have the young talent already, they dont need machado. The phillies will get him in a trade and most likely resign him as well. #bebold
Nah it’d make more sense for the Phillies to just wait until December and sign Machado for just money
Dillinger91 what I’m saying is if the Yankees let the other teams potentially interested in starting pitching use their prospects to acquire Manny then they won’t have those prospects to outbid the Yankees for starting pitching and do you think the orioles can get that much in a Manny deal that it could be trouble for anybody in the AL east please think about what you say before you post please