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Red Sox Have Checked In On Manny Machado, Have Interest In Zach Britton

By Steve Adams | July 10, 2018 at 8:49pm CDT

8:49pm: Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com tweets that the Sox did indeed check in on Machado, but there’s “nothing substantial” to those talks at this time. Boston, however, “seems to have definite interest” in Britton.

8:39pm: The field of teams reported to be showing interest in Orioles shortstop Manny Machado is growing, as both Peter Schmuck of the Baltimore Sun and Rich Dubroff of PressboxOnline.com (Twiter link) report that the Red Sox have recently reached out to the Orioles regarding Machado. Schmuck notes that Boston’s interest is seemingly a response to recent reports that the Yankees have again displayed some renewed interest.

The Red Sox don’t represent a perfect fit for Machado by any means, with Xander Bogaerts thriving at shortstop (.277/.351/.512) and Rafael Devers slotted in at third base. Devers, though, has struggled to the tune of a .290 OBP, and while the Sox certainly wouldn’t part with him for a Machado rental, Boston could in theory add Machado and send Devers to Triple-A Pawtucket for further development. Devers, after all, is still just 21 years of age and only played nine games in Triple-A before ascending to the Majors last year.

To this point, it’s not clear whether Boston’s interest constitutes anything more than due diligence, and there’s not yet anything to suggest that they’re embarking upon an aggressive pursuit of Machado. The Dodgers, Brewers and, to a lesser extent, the Diamondbacks were said to be the most most aggressive parties on the Machado front as recently as this afternoon, with the Cubs and Cardinals both now said to be largely out of the mix.

As ever, it’s worth bearing in mind that most contending clubs will at least gauge the price tag on most of the top trade pieces available. Fancred’s Jon Heyman recently reported that the Red Sox have been scouting Baltimore’s Zach Britton in recent weeks anyhow, and it’s fairly logical to expect that if they were inquiring with the Orioles on Britton, they’d at the very least check in on the Machado price tag. Players of Machado’s caliber are rarely available on the summer trade market, after all, and acquiring him represents something of a rare opportunity for any contender — particularly one in a tightly contested division race such as the current AL East.

Boston is a particularly difficult fit for the Machado, though, given the money he’s owed through season’s end and the luxury tax penalization the Sox would incur if payroll hiked much further north. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported at the time of the Steve Pearce trade that the money the Blue Jays sent to the Red Sox in that deal helped keep Boston’s luxury tax ledger just south of $237MM.

That’s an important figure, because despite the fact that much of the focus with regard to the luxury tax is placed on the initial $197MM barrier, there are increasingly steep penalties for exceeding that threshold by more than $40MM. Namely, the Sox would be taxed at a hefty 42.5 percent clip for any amount over that $237MM mark and, more significantly, would have their top pick in next June’s amateur draft knocked back by 10 spots. Machado is currently owed about $7.05MM through season’s end, and the Red Sox’ luxury tax payroll (per Cot’s Contracts) sat at $235.325MM before even accounting for the $1.5MM they took on in the Pearce trade. That figure is an estimate, of course, it nonetheless demonstrates that the Sox are only narrowly south of that threshold.

It’s certainly possible that the Sox have genuine interest in adding Machado to the mix, recognizing that they’re in a close battle for the division and that every win will prove crucial to avoiding a one-game Wild Card playoff. However, given Boston’s luxury tax situation, an already-crowded left side of the infield and a thin farm system, it’s difficult to see them emerging as a top suitor for Machado.

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  1. yanks02026

    7 years ago

    Red Sox have no good prospects.

    4
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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      Groome, Chavis and Houck would be close

      2
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      • yanks02026

        7 years ago

        You mean Chavis who needs PEDs

        5
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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          He doesnt have no value because of that. The O’s or any other team would love to take on his potential as long as Boston realized his value is diminished.

          Reply
        • gomerhodge71

          7 years ago

          Your user name says it all

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        • Robert hutchins

          7 years ago

          His username says nothing. I’m a Sox fan, we have no prospects to truly deal and it’s an area we need to build back up. We have no business talking about Machado and I’d be willing to bet the sox did not check on him.

          Reply
        • Willy

          7 years ago

          Like I said…that simply isn’t true. They have Chavis, Mata, Houck among others who have value to team’s. They just don’t have the upper echelon players outside of Groome.

          Reply
    • andrewgauldin

      7 years ago

      You have to remember, Machado is a rental. I think it’s safe to say the orioles are going to acquire more than what the tigers did for JD Martinez, but I am 100% positive that if the Red Sox were to offer Chavez, Groome, and Houck, the orioles would definitely take it. But I don’t think it’s going to take that much based on the JD Martinez trade. With that, the BoSox do have the prospects to get Martinez, it’s just a matter of how depleted they will be if they are to acquire Manny and/or Britton.

      Reply
      • dimitrios in la

        7 years ago

        I see Manny and Britton as a fit in LA with the Dodgers—if they’ll make the right offer.

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      • Willy

        7 years ago

        You mean they have the pieces to acquire Machado, not Martinez.

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      • Robert hutchins

        7 years ago

        That’s an awful package. BAL rejected Verdugo & Alvarez from LAD. The sox have no chance & should stay confident in Devers. Chavis is PED, Groome is dealing with Tommy John and Houck is destined for the bullpen. Just because they’re ranked 1-3 in the system, does not mean squat. I’m a sox fan btw.

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        • chesteraarthur

          7 years ago

          Source?

          Reply
    • Willy

      7 years ago

      That simply isn’t true.

      Reply
  2. Supilikethat

    7 years ago

    They have had enough with Devers making so many errors

    5
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    • slapnuts

      7 years ago

      Have they?

      2
      Reply
      • Opposing Views

        7 years ago

        No, they have not.

        2
        Reply
    • johnrealtime

      7 years ago

      I feel like people forget that Devers is 21

      1
      Reply
      • rmullig2

        7 years ago

        That explains why they keep asking him for ID at the bar.

        1
        Reply
  3. acarneglia

    7 years ago

    Sounds like this could potentially be another Todd Frazier situation between Boston and New York

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  4. Mr. E Team

    7 years ago

    Boston has had issues at 3rd base for a while. Lowest WAR at the position among AL contenders. Still paying Pablo Sandoval not to play.

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  5. jjburke2018

    7 years ago

    They have good prospects and could send down devers to triple a and trade for a couple of prospects

    Reply
    • gleybertorres25

      7 years ago

      Trade for a couple prospects? they’d have to trade from the Major league roster for that.

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      Reply
  6. gofish 2

    7 years ago

    Blake Swihart HAS to be the centerpiece……right?

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    • Michael Chaney

      7 years ago

      Don’t forget about Trey Ball too

      1
      Reply
      • Thomar

        7 years ago

        Ball is a bust. I was his biggest believer, but he doesn’t have it

        Reply
        • Aircool

          7 years ago

          Clearly you weren’t his biggest believer then.

          Reply
        • Michael Chaney

          7 years ago

          I know, I was just being sarcastic…I’ve seen too many people on here claiming that he can still be a big part of a deal but he’s been a bust from basically the start

          Reply
    • SKbreesy

      7 years ago

      The Yankees would just offer Greg Bird and that would swing the deal back towards New York’s favor. I bet Baltimore would even throw in Givens if Bird was centerpiecing the deal.

      1
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      • osfan9987

        7 years ago

        See you make this joke but I’m fairly certain I’ve see Yankees fans suggest that, they are convinced everybody wants the scrap pile crowd

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          You have not seen Yankee fans suggesting Bird as a centerpiece.. Aren’t you the guy that is still stomping his feet claiming the Yankees sign all of the free agents after the Orioles just spent close to $100 million on 3 of them, while the Yankees only signed Walker for $4m?

          Reply
        • stan lee the manly

          7 years ago

          To be fair, trading for Stanton was pretty much the exact same as signing him as a free agent what with the no-trade clause and all

          1
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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          Yes, I actually have.

          Reply
        • jolink65

          7 years ago

          Those are the unrealistic fans who don’t understand how trades work. Most realistic Yankees fans, myself included, know that no one is taking anything off the scrap heap from them. Trading for a major upgrade is going to carry a hefty price tag. No one wants Bird or Gray at this point.

          1
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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          Thank You

          Reply
      • tigerfan1968

        7 years ago

        Orioles already have Greg Bird AKA Chris Davis who is still owed over 50 million.

        For the Yankees or anyone it is just better for them to have Machado then a competing AL team.

        1
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        • micg

          7 years ago

          Now if they want to trade Bird for Davis the O’s will throw in Manny!

          Reply
  7. Thomar

    7 years ago

    Their top prospect Groome is out for the year, Chavis is currently 0 for 8 with four strikeouts in AA. Swihart is hitting .175. Beeks, their top AAA starter has made two uninspiring appearances in Boston. Rourke has struggled all year, #3 prospect. They don’t have anything to offer other than major league players.

    1
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    • Matt Galvin

      7 years ago

      Brian Johnson is already in majors and Sam Travis been blocked by Moreland/Martinez.

      Reply
      • Bocephus

        7 years ago

        Did you really just bring Travis into this. lol

        Reply
    • Fever Pitch Guy

      7 years ago

      What are you talking about? Chavis had two doubles and a homerun in yesterday’s game for lowell. Sure it wasn’t in AA, but still noteworthy.

      1
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    • badco44

      7 years ago

      Correction …Chavez’s had four hits the night before last!

      1
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    • koolga

      7 years ago

      Swihart is up to .200 after last night. Not great, but if he has continued playing time, he may raise it up to .250 (again, not great, but acceptable for a catcher).

      A little confidence goes a long ways and it might just be the boost he needs.

      He looked good behind the plate last night.

      Reply
    • Willy

      7 years ago

      That just isn’t true but go ahead and keep beating that drum.

      Reply
  8. Houston We Have A Solution

    7 years ago

    Or just call Texas about an Adrian beltre reunion.

    Send Texas Cj Chatham- Dalbec- Lakin.

    Reply
  9. Dutch Vander Linde

    7 years ago

    Nope he’s not going to the Red Sox, he hates Boston

    Reply
    • SKbreesy

      7 years ago

      It’s a trade he doesn’t have a choice.

      Reply
      • Willy

        7 years ago

        He does have a choice, he has 10-5 rights but the poster before you is wrong, he doesn’t hate Boston.

        Reply
    • Willy

      7 years ago

      He doesn’t hate Boston, stop making stuff up.

      Reply
  10. Thomar

    7 years ago

    Dalbec is off the table for a 39 year old rental. He’s actually good and promising. Pedriora’s knee is toast and he’s getting old. Dalbec is his successor in waiting. ( for now anyway)

    Reply
    • Bruin1012

      7 years ago

      Dalbec plays third have never heard the Red Sox even thinking he can play second he is kind of slow for third it sounds like so doubt they would even try him at second.

      1
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  11. GOP Lizards

    7 years ago

    Is there a more unlikable organization than RS?

    1
    Reply
    • SKbreesy

      7 years ago

      Overall the Yankees are probably the most hated organization.

      3
      Reply
    • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

      7 years ago

      Just the yanks

      Reply
    • edreed20

      7 years ago

      No the Red Sox take it

      Reply
      • repboy1

        7 years ago

        Why?

        Reply
    • firstbleed

      7 years ago

      Cubs/Yanks are.

      Reply
  12. rmullig2

    7 years ago

    The Yankees offered nothing for Machado and the Red Sox have topped that by offering absolutely nothing.

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    • Bubba 5

      7 years ago

      Agreed Greg Bird is laughable. Only a Yankee fan would think he has any value.

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      • jolink65

        7 years ago

        Nope, we don’t either. Until/if he gets himself right he has no trade value unless another team wants to gamble on his upside. I don’t think the Yankees want to sell low on him though, so he’ll be here for the foreseeable future.

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      • koolga

        7 years ago

        Looking at Bird’s stats, I’m not sure what the big deal is either. I would expect that a NL team would be making better offers and the Orioles would rather deal him to the National League anyways.

        Reply
  13. 22222pete

    7 years ago

    Castillo (playing well) and cash (Jones leaves as a FA), ptbnl (swihart after Vazquez is back) , Brian Johnson, Devers , Groome (TJS but still a prospect) for Manny and Britton

    Blow way past 237 but DD says he is ok with that

    Reply
    • Willy

      7 years ago

      You can’t wad up a pile of Garbage and think another team is going to take it.

      1
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    • Connorsoxfan

      7 years ago

      You are the reason people hate Red Sox fans

      Reply
      • Connorsoxfan

        7 years ago

        Granted the inclusion of Devers makes that somewhat feasible, but you can’t seriously expect the orioles to take Castillo…

        Reply
      • jjburke2018

        7 years ago

        Wow that is mean what team you ever like everyone hates that they teams fans.

        Reply
  14. mpguy

    7 years ago

    The funniest line I’ve heard about Machado came from NBC Sports Bay Area. They were joking (I think) that the Golden State Warriors are going to sign Machado once he becomes a free agent.

    Reply
  15. rvcbmicha

    7 years ago

    O’s need to solidify their rotation down the stretch. Not trade away their talent… we’re only 31.5 games out of the wildcard and we haven’t even hit the break! #wegotthis

    Reply
    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      Then the worm has definitely turned.

      Reply
  16. athingortwo

    7 years ago

    O’s need for Davis to give up the excess he signed for over the $115M and sign Machado themselves, keep Britton, trade Brach, trade Jones. Period.

    Reply
    • badco44

      7 years ago

      Yep got got to think that the real interest is about Britton and Brock

      Reply
  17. Sheev Palpatine

    7 years ago

    I’ll trade $50m for machado and Davis

    Reply
  18. tigerfan1968

    7 years ago

    Red Sox should go for Manny and big time. Here are the reasons :

    1. They do NOT need starting or relief pitching. Yankees do, Seattle does.
    2. Bradley, Leon, and second base are three weak bats. Moreland is just average.
    3. Devers can hit and defense improving but he is only 21.
    4. Bogarts to second base is not ridiculous. With the shift on 2/3 of the time so what.
    5. Signing Manny long term is possible. Bradley and Pedroia salaries gone. Stagger Manny so salary increases in year two etc.

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    • Michael Birks

      7 years ago

      Where does Pedroia salary go? He has full 10/5 no trade?

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    • Willy

      7 years ago

      Sorry but this is one of the dumbest comments on the day. The Sox don’t need relief pitching but the Yankees do? Hahahaha, apparently you don’t watch either team with a comment like that. Bogaerts won’t be asked to change positions because the last time they asked him (when they re-signed Drew) he sulked and complained the whole time while not producing. How on Earth do you think they’d be able to get rid of Pedroia’s salary? He’s too stubborn to retire.

      Reply
  19. Judge Judy

    7 years ago

    Erod for Machado.

    Reply
    • Bruin1012

      7 years ago

      Lol no

      Reply
  20. GarryHarris

    7 years ago

    BoSox has been hoarding away Rusney Castillo for just this opportunity.

    Reply
  21. Wally-the-green-monster

    7 years ago

    I haven’t heard Yankee fans this scared in some time. Feeling the pressure to make an upgrade?

    Reply
    • jolink65

      7 years ago

      Not sure where you’re looking, but where have you seen Yankees fans “scared” about this? First, it sounds like Boston is only doing their due diligence in gauging the price for Baltimore’s assets, and second, as a Yankees fan I hope the Red Sox trade for Machado. It would destroy their system even more and Machado will hit free agency anyway and go to the highest bidder, which could potentially be the Yankees, and trading Machado would mean there would be no draft pick loss for signing him. It may mean trouble for the Yankees this season, but the team is built for the long run and not just for this season.

      Reply
      • SKbreesy

        7 years ago

        A lot can happen in 3 years.

        Boston has great everyday young players right now on the everyday roster.

        Top prospects fade(in 2015 Swihart and Owens were #18 and #19 prospects in MLB.com top 100) and prospects you never expect to produce at the MLB level become serviceable.

        Add that to the fact that young(great) players aren’t signing team friendly extensions anymore, and free agents are hitting the market at 25-27 years of age. You can still sign great young players during free agency.

        Reply
  22. brood550

    7 years ago

    that’d be fun to watch. Move Devers to 1b and slot Machado at 3b. Works great..

    Reply
  23. jeffk-2

    7 years ago

    Machado, Britton and Brach for Benitendi, Houck, and a lower level prospect.

    Reply
    • brood550

      7 years ago

      Benintendi shouldn’t even be an option for this deal. JBJ could go because Mookie or Benintendi can slot into center and he’s struggling but still has appeal, You don’t give up young controllable talent that is producing at the majors for a rental. The Red Sox are in their window. Doing that would shorten it significantly.

      Reply
  24. chevyheston

    7 years ago

    PR move just so fanbase won’t say, “why didn’t you go after Machado?”

    Reply
  25. seaver41

    7 years ago

    tough call on where Dumbrowski goes from here – he flushed the farm for two players and neither lived up to expectations in the 2017 postseason. Can’t let Dumbrowksi keep flushing all the kids away blindly.

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