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Trade Rumors: CarGo, Giants, Flores, Mets

By Mark Polishuk | July 4, 2018 at 11:18pm CDT

Carlos Gonzalez will achieve his 10-and-5 rights (and thus full no-trade protection) on July 19, MLB.com’s Jon Paul Morosi writes, so the Rockies may need to move quickly if they want to freely move the veteran outfielder.  The Rockies aren’t really deadline sellers at this point, as their modest 44-43 record is still keeping them 4.5 games back in both the NL West and NL wild card races, though Gonzalez is providing only moderate value and could be expendable.  The 32-year-old hasn’t done much to bounce back from a mediocre 2017 season, as CarGo is hitting just .267/.316/.427 with seven homers in 244 PA.  Those numbers contain some lopsided splits, as he hasn’t been at all productive against left-handed pitching or away from Coors Fields, making him a pretty limited asset for potential trade partners.  Gonzalez is only under contract through this season via a one-year, $5MM deal, and he is enough of a respected figure in Colorado that the Rox may want to keep him for their pennant push rather than arrange a trade.

More Fourth-of-July buzz about some teams likely to be active at the deadline…

  • Giants GM Bobby Evans recently described the team’s desire to keep payroll under the $197MM luxury tax threshold as “a target, not a mandate” in terms of making roster upgrades, though a source tells MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand that avoiding the tax “is a must” for the club.  After passing the tax limit for multiple seasons, San Francisco could be charged only a 20 percent tax on the overage rather than 50 percent if it can keep its payroll in check for the season.  This didn’t keep the Giants from some big offseason spending, and they have very little room for further additions at the deadline if they want to make a playoff push, which could greatly complicate things for Evans and the front office.  “They’ll have a better feel for what they need at the [All-Star] break, but they may very well have to move money to add money,” the source said.
  • Wilmer Flores is hoping to remain with the Mets, though the New York Post’s Mike Puma writes that Flores is one of several veterans who could be shipped out by the trade deadline.  Flores has been getting a lot of playing time, which could simply be because Flores is one of the few Mets swinging the bat well, or because first baseman Dominic Smith has been dealing with a minor wrist injury.  Alternatively, the Mets could be giving potential trade partners a long look at what Flores can do.  The infielder is controlled through the 2019 season and can play at first, second, and third base, not to mention being a regular at shortstop as recently as 2015.
  • The Mets may be forced to deal more controllable assets like Flores or even major pieces like Noah Syndergaard or Jacob deGrom if they want to get a truly quality return, the New York Post’s Joel Sherman writes, since the team isn’t likely to receive much in the way of young talent if they only stick to dealing impending free agents.  None of the prospects received by the team in last season’s deadline deals of walk-year veterans, for instance, have shown much promise this season.
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41 Comments

  1. xabial

    7 years ago

    “a target, not a mandate”? Man this guy’s good lol.

    Was Giants’ GM Bobby Evans hired just to talk to media?

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    • majorflaw

      7 years ago

      “Was . . . . Bobby Evans hired just to talk to media?”

      It’s part of the job, x, no? Would the Giants be better off with a GM who babbles incoherently? And it’s pretty much what Cashman says every year as well. Not sure what your issue here is, care to throw me a clue?

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      • xabial

        7 years ago

        Just saying Evans’ really keeping it close to the vest with that answer, while not leaving room for more questions regarding the Giants’ luxury tax situation

        The joke was cuz everyone knows Brian Sabean’s the man in charge… Lol lighten up fellas >..<

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Or rather President & CEO Larry Baer’s in charge, and Brian Sabean’s Executive VP.. Look, it doesn’t matter… The joke failed.. 😮

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    • woodstock005

      7 years ago

      Yes
      A big yes

      What was the trade made from Bobby Evans that really impact the giants??

      Not remember

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    • SFGiants4ever

      7 years ago

      Whatever you think of his press release the Giants do need to stay under, going over not only takes money they can spend elsewhere next year, but more importantly draft picks and international money.

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  2. baseballhobo

    7 years ago

    The Rockies wouldn’t get anything of value for Gonzalez anyway.

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    • Jean Matrac

      7 years ago

      I wonder why they re-signed him in the first place. Those splits didn’t suddenly crop up this season.

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      • GoRockies

        7 years ago

        They resigned him because Arenado told them to, Cargo is a great club house guy

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        • juicemane

          7 years ago

          Yea then Arenado said send Jon Gray with sub 3 fip and xfip to the minors! Then he said no I’m not signing an extension…hmmm

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    • Solaris601

      7 years ago

      Cargo may very well be a good Clubhouse presence, but I think COL brought him back primarily for the purpose of nostalgia, and nostalgia doesn’t win division pennants. If I’m a GM of a contender who needs an OF bat, I don’t see Gonzalez as a solution for the simple reason that if he can’t put up solid offensive numbers at Coors what’s he gonna do in our sea level park?

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  3. aussiegiants53

    7 years ago

    A bat would be nice for the Giants… but who they going to move?? ‍♂️‍♂️

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    • afenton530

      7 years ago

      Slater is a good piece, Or even Ramos if the return is big enough

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  4. lowtalker1

    7 years ago

    Why is this a mention for cargo
    He is on a 2 year deal and he is only good against the padres

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    • Jean Matrac

      7 years ago

      He signed for only 1 year, not 2. There isn’t even an option attached.

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        I mean one
        Typo

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  5. Squeezebuntz9

    7 years ago

    Jackson’s contract alone is costing the giants a chance to get anyone. Not sure what Evans is thinking overpaying for second hand store items that they wouldn’t buy back for half the price.

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    • jekporkins

      7 years ago

      HIs contract is for $3 million and they were desperate for a decent player to play CF and cover the other outfield spots. It was highly praised at the time.

      If that $3 million is really what’s stopping them from getting Manny Machado you’re doing math wrong.

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  6. hiflew

    7 years ago

    Trading CarGo would be foolish. The whole reason for re-signing him in the first place was to appease Arenado, who wanted him back. Trading him now would just make your star unhappy before he is signed to an extension.

    That being said, trading Gerardo Parra would be a very good idea. Blackmon in center with a combo of Dahl/CarGo/Tapia is good enough for the OF. Plus Parra is a FA, unlikely to be brought back., and not as entrenched to the fans and players as CarGo.

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    • Mattimeo09

      7 years ago

      I doubt Arenado signs an extension. He’s talked about how tired he is about losing the division. The NL West is very competitive & I’m a fan of the Rockies as well. They’ve gotta do well this year if they want a chance at extending him

      google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/749138002

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  7. baseball1600

    7 years ago

    Giants should package Tyler Beede with Jackson and/or Dyson to shed some salary. Kid has struggled in the show and in AAA, yet is still valued as one of the systems top prospects. With the rotation of the future most likely being led by Suarez, Stratton, Blach, and possibly Bumgarner if they choose to extend him, the giants could very well be in decent shape even without beede. I’m sure a team like the Reds would be willing to add a veteran reliever with closing experience like Dyson and also get a former top 100 prospect who still has no3 starter potential. Hope a deal could get done if both ends would agree.

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    • OverUnderDone

      7 years ago

      Beede has no value now. He’s completely cratered out of a starting role in AAA, and is currently working 1-inning stints in middle relief. And doing it poorly.

      Not sure why you think the Reds would want Dyson. He’s overpaid on a 1-year deal and the Reds are not getting out of the cellar this year.

      It’ll be an amazing trick if Evans can add value at the deadline while staying under the cap.

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      • baseball1600

        7 years ago

        Not saying the Reds would make the trade, but Beede is a former first rounder and top 100 prospect. Scouts obviously saw something in him. If the Reds scouting crew had seen even a little bit of something that they like in Beede, I’m sure the giants would package him with one of Jackson/Dyson. Reds could eat as little as 1-2 M of the vets payroll to essentially buy a former first round pick as a lottery ticket. I only mentioned this trade possibility because the Reds have a great young hitting core, but have little to no pitching and I’m sure they would be open to trading for pitchers with potential. They may or may not see anything in Beede in particular, but it certainly is a possible trade if they have any interest.

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        • baseball1600

          7 years ago

          Giants have several prospects in their orginization with a rocky path to the majors (Chris Shaw, Aramis Garcia) they could package one of those prospects with a vet to a team lacking depth in that field, that could essentially “buy” a prospect or two for as little as 1-2M. If there is a team out there, giants could sell prospects for cap space, and since they are in a win now mode, why wouldn’t they? I suggest they target trade cands such as Leonys Martin, Yangervis Solarte, and Sergio Romo. One of the above would be enough, and they could probably avoid trading any top 5 orginizational talent. Romo wouldn’t cost anything more than a no.9 or no.10. Sorry for the long posts, just my insight of what a team I care about could/should do in my opinion.

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        • stymeedone

          7 years ago

          Martin may cost more than you think. He’s having a good year with the bat. He’s on a cheap contract, and he is not a rental. He is controllable next year thru arbitration. Not saying he would cost a lot, but the extra year has value.

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        • Brad Connelly

          7 years ago

          When will the Reds get out of “dumping ground” status??? Always the first team brought up when it comes to shedding salary.

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        • Grand Salami

          7 years ago

          Reds are nearly 20% down from their previous high on payroll a few years back. They have much of that sunk into Votto and Bailey so the remainder is not going anywhere.

          They will fill this role in hypothetical trades until it becomes clear that they are actually rebuilding. That may have happened over the last month or so.

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  8. CL1NT

    7 years ago

    Pretty soon we will find out whether it’s the Cardinals or the Giants, that are for real this year. Both teams are walking that fine line. The Cards are up and down too much, and the Giants are gonna have to keep pace with the hot Dodgers. They need Cueto to pitch like he did before he got hurt.

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    • Brad Connelly

      7 years ago

      If Ozuna was more consistent, the cards would be taking off. When he’s hot, he’s hot. But man when he is cold…struggles.

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    • gofish 2

      7 years ago

      And the Cardinals are going to need Luke Weaver to show up, amongst other players.

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    • gilgunderson

      7 years ago

      The Giants and Cardinals are starting a 4 game series, so… good timing. Johnny Cueto returns tonight.

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  9. KellyS

    7 years ago

    CarGo has a CAREER .723 OPS away from Coors Field. As an outfielder no less. Who in the world thinks he would help their team? Maybe as a coach.

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    • HerroHerro

      7 years ago

      Probably the Mets if they were buyers this year.

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  10. lefty177 3

    7 years ago

    Am I the only one that wants the Mets to keep Flores simply for the fact that a few years ago we saw him break down on the field only to have the trade canceled. It may be because I have a big heart but I want to see them keep him because he loved the Mets that much that he cried when he was taken out of the game. That’s true passion for your team right there.

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    • Joe Orsulak

      7 years ago

      He’s pretty bad

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      • metseventually 2

        7 years ago

        What’s bad about a bench player with a 731 OPS and doesn’t strike out a bunch?

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        • hojostache

          7 years ago

          …AND he mashes lefty. Flores could slot in as a great bench player for a contending team. He is a pretty good pinch hitter and has hit a number of game winning hits for the mets during extra innings. I have no idea how to value him in a trade though. His glove is mediocre to below average at any of the positions he plays….but his bat is more than serviceable for the bench.

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    • rmullig2

      7 years ago

      They either need to make him an everyday player or get rid of him. If they can get rid of Cabrera maybe that opens a spot for him he can’t be worse at that position. If they would let him play one position every day then maybe he could become serviceable defensively,.

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  11. JYD5321

    7 years ago

    Yeah, the “prospects” the Mets received last year in their rental trades haven’t show much promise. LOL. They didn’t show much before the Mets got them, why would a change of uniform matter? They’re the type of prospects you get when you’re cheapskate owner insists on recouping the balance of the traded player’s salary in every rental deal.

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  12. ExileInLA 2

    7 years ago

    It’s tough enough to pretend that Wilmer can play 2B/3B — please don’t pretend he can play Short any more.

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  13. Arnold Brockman

    7 years ago

    The Mets Need Bullpen Help. It Is Very Apparent That Our Starting Pitching Is OK As Is. How Many Games This Year Have Been Lost In The 7th-8th and 9th Innings. To Start A Wholesale Change Is Wrong. Thor And Jacob Need To Stay On This Team !

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