Wil Myers was one of the Padres’ most popular options at third base last year, but it doesn’t appear he’ll factor in at the hot corner in 2019. On Saturday, Myers told reporters – including Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune and AJ Cassavell of MLB.com – that he’ll be a full-time outfielder next season.
Of course, Myers’ shift back to the outfield will have ripple effects on the rest of the Padres’ position player group. Not only will it add to an outfield logjam – one that also includes Franchy Cordero, Hunter Renfroe, Franmil Reyes, Manuel Margot and Travis Jankowski – but it’ll make it all the more important for San Diego to find a starting third baseman. The Padres have been prioritizing third this offseason, as Cassavell reported last month and as Acee further emphasizes.
One potential third base target could be free agent Mike Moustakas, first baseman Eric Hosmer’s longtime Royals teammate, though Acee casts doubt on the Padres signing him. Meanwhile, they have “explored” trades for the Yankees’ Miguel Andujar (previously reported), the Reds’ Nick Senzel and the Cubs’ David Bote, according to Acee. Speculatively, both Andujar and Senzel may be unrealistic targets for the Padres (or just about anyone else), given their importance to their current teams. The 25-year-old Bote could be easier to land, on the other hand, as he’s stuck behind Kris Bryant in the Cubs’ pecking order at third base. An 18th-round pick of the Cubs in 2012, Bote debuted in the majors last season with a .239/.319/.408 line and six home runs over 210 plate appearances. He carries a much more imposing .281/.355/.502 slash and 15 HRs in 299 Triple-A PAs.
Regardless of whom the Padres pick up to handle third in 2019, it doesn’t seem as if their entire contingent of outfielders will stick around for the foreseeable future. Except for Myers, the Padres could option anyone from the group to the minors. Nevertheless, the team’s “motivated” to part with at least one of its outfielders either prior to the season or before July’s trade deadline, Acee suggests. Should a trade happen, Cassavell contends one of Myers, Renfroe or Reyes would go, as they’re all relatively similar players. With a guaranteed $64MM coming his way over the next four seasons (including a $1MM buyout in lieu of a $20MM club option in 2023), Myers may be the most difficult of three to move. Indeed, as of last season and earlier this winter, trading Myers likely would have required San Diego to take on another team’s undesirable contract, Acee relays. So far, though, the Padres haven’t found a deal to their liking for the 28-year-old.
The obvious is one of those outfielders to Atlanta for pitching. How can these two teams not work out an obvious trade?
Because Atlanta doesn’t want one of those OFers
Much better options still available in trades
I would much rather Atl bring back Markakis for 2 yrs, trade for Realmuto and sign 2 RP with bounce back potential. Maybe Cody Allen & Justin Wilson.
Whos better lol Haniger? Mariners arent trading him unless you include Wright Riley Pache and 1 or 2 more prospects.
Sure Haniger is better but at that cost is it really worth It?
Don’t argue with Braves fans. Camargo is the equivalent to Arenado and Pache is Trout.
No Braves fan has ever made that comparison. In fact i dont know how you even got to this when all he said there are better OF options on the trade market.
I would love to trade one of our pitching prospects for Reyes.
Get a deal done for Comargo
Right right right, Camargo totally an mlb worthy talent
Is this a real thought by some people here? The guy put up 4.1 WAR last season in his first full season while playing excellent D at 3rd and SS. He had an OPS+ of 130 the second half of the season while ranking ahead of Arenado and Andujar at 7th overall in WAR in the second half and is only 24 and under control for years.
I guess he would be a MLB quality player if he had been an overhyped 1st rounder you had heard of before though, right?
lol don’t tell Layercake above that Carmago compares to Arenado since he just told us no Braves fan ever made that comparison !!!
Yates stammen renfroe cordero all make sense for Atlanta. While Gohara Allard wentz wilson weigel all make sense for the padres. A deal could easily be done.
NONE of those players make any sense for the Padres. Did you read the article they linked to? Or even the article here?
Camargo or Riley make sense for the Padres. They have absolutely no need for pitching prospects.
Cause acquiring more pitching to trade for someone like nick senzel is a bad idea.
Reds dont have interest in yates stammen renfroe or cordero but theyd have more interest in guys like Gohara Allard and wentz. Which gives the padres flexibility in dealing pitching prospects to fill holes.
Very short sighted comment. Acquiring more pitching in exchange for depth means other deals get done to fill needs.
Padres dont need anymore fringe young pitcher projects…we literally have 11 coming or already here.
Atlanta seems like a pretty viable trade partner. Renfroe is the guy that I feel that would end up being traded. Not sure for who either. Probably ML ready SP, just not sure who either, maybe fried
Wow! Did you READ the article? People frickin amaze me. The Padres have no need for pitching prospects. Have you looked at their prospect list? 10 of the top 14 are frickin pitchers.
GO READ THE ARTICLE!
Did you read what I said. Frickin amazes me!!! I said Major League starting pitching. I’m well aware that the padres are pretty much stacked with Minor League pitching talent.
GO READ WHAT I WROTE AGAIN!!!
Don’t mind him. He doesnt think too far ahead. Hes more of a checkers than chess guy it seems.
It makes sense for the padres to acquire mlb ready arms especially to facilitate a deal for someome like nick senzel or eugino Suarez.
At current padres have Lucchessi Quantril Morejon Gore Allen Paddack Nix Patino Lamet
If they were to deal for senzel theyd be giving up easily gore and someone like Logan Allen and Jacob Nix in a deal.
If padres were to add fried Allard Gohara or pitching from the braves it gives the padres more choices of players to trade for senzel or suarez.
A gore allen gohara nix deal is one the reds would heavily consider while padres keep allard or whoever else.
I’m sure padre fans would rather have senzel than Riley or Camargo.
my thoughts exactly, glad to see that there is a loyal Padres fan who knows exactly what they are talking about.
Espinoza, Baez, Weathers….don’t sell the Pads short.
There is no such thing as too many pitching prospects, because history shows that most of those pitching prospects are going to break or not pan out.
Why would the Padres trade an outfielder for pitching prospects just to trade those pitching prospects for Suarez or Senzel? Wouldn’t it make more sense to just trade an outfielder plus a prospect or two for one of those guys?
Cause the reds have a plethora of OFs working their way up the minors and have a greater need for pitching prospects then OFs.
Then it would have to be a 3-team trade with the Padres getting Senzel/Suarez, the Braves getting an outfielder and the Reds getting pitching prospects. And anyone backing out causes the whole trade to collapse. You can’t just assume the trade you want to make is going to be available or you end up in a situation like what happened with Chase Headley last year.
Hahaha loyal and padres fan all in one sentence?!?!
Gore is every bit the prospect Senzel is……Padres aren’t adding someone like Allen in that deal.Maybe a lower level prospect.
I can read. Still would like to see Fried in SD.
It all depends on who ATL is looking at… I don’t care if we stock piled the top 10 arms in the minors. Talent is always welcome. The big league roster may be limited to 25 but the farm system isn’t
We already had Fried. We dumped him along with Mallex Smith, Duston Perterson and Jace Peterson to pick up 1 year of Justin Upton. Another one of the “boy genius’s” fabulous trades.
Did I miss the rule that says you can’t reacquire a player if you’ve traded them before?
Also Justin Upton worked out to be a net positive in the end. Try again
How was Justin a net positive in San Diego????
He cost them $14.5m for one year, probably hurt their draft position that year, refused to talk extension and then went chasing the money to Detroit.
You can make a near bulletproof case that the Padres would be better off today had they not made that trade.
Gore isn’t an mlb ready prospect either which is why they brought up another top pitching prospect
lmao
$14.5m is too much for the best hitter on the team to make?? Draft position?? Did Upton push us from 2nd pick to 3rd? If you look at that following draft… AJ had 5 picks in the top 75. One of those was the comp pick from losing Upton
Go look at that 2016 draft class. Those first 5 picks especially. Reggie Lawson is the only one not getting hyped.
Preller had a plan and executed it. And along the way (2015) the Padres were less of a joke because they had a real threat in the lineup. This chit works, make your team better for the current year. Flip the player or take the comp pick and give yourself a chance to improve in the future
There may be few Padres fans, but the ones around are pretty loyal. Imagine your team losing this much and still rooting them on year after year
The Padres received the 8th pick in the 2016 draft, not the 3rd, okay genius? Without Upton it’s possible they draft higher. Preller got Eric Lauer out of the Upton comp pick. Max Fried and Mallex Smith are way better. Lauer is a #5 starter in the best case scenario.
Having Justin Upton for one year hasn’t stopped anyone from thinking that the Padres are a joke. This “chit” doesn’t work at all. Padres would objectively be better off today without that trade.
“Make your team better for the current year.”
Okay, why not trade MacKenzie Gore for Sonny Gray? That’ll make the Padres better for the current year!
How about for Camargo? Makes some sense on paper
Camargo or Riley are the only players on the Braves that do make sense. Camargo is blocked by Donaldson and Riley is a year away.
Camargo is a SS that played 3rd cause they have Dansby. He’s not blocked by Donaldson at all
Then he’s blocked by Dansby, which is even worse for him…
Camargo is the Braves version of Ben Zobrist in his prime – can play pretty much everywhere and won’t kill you on the offensive side. He’s the perfect depth piece for any team, especially with Donaldson coming back from serious injury and Swanson not living up to the hype. I don’t think the Braves will (or should) move him.
It is an interesting idea. Margot would give them 3 CF options emphasizing defense and he’s got upside. Don’t know enough about Franchy to make a deal for, but they could trade a lesser P for a Duvall platoon partner. In a platoon, Duvall would have .245 20+HR potential and he’s a plus OF defensively. Not advocating for it, just speculating what it might look like.
You’re right in that atlanta is a perfect fit cause we need an OF. But we would most likely only want Myers or Renfroe. Most of the responses to your comments are outrageous honestly. Higher end prospects for the worse of the listed outfielders. Look, Myers is the only one that would get 1 maybe 2, top 100 prospects. The rest wouldn’t and it’s unreasonable to think so. We have more pitching prospect than we can handle, so those are these guys that make sense for us to trade, but I’m not sure y’all need that. Our hitting prospects are more valuable, st least to fans because we don’t feel we have a lot in the works. So it’s hard to let go of them. But I can tell you this, Pache and Riley aren’t going for anyone less than Myers. Only one would go for him and even that’s questionable base on last years performance
Is Atlanta ready to pay Will Myers 22.5 Million a year for 2020 – 2022 with a 20 million option in 2023? Myers is not worth that contract. I would not give up anything of note if you take on that contract. Myers is not worth it.
San Diego would pick up a good portion of that, I’m sure
would love to see Fried pitching in SD
The irony is he was a padre at one point
One day not so far away Machado, and Harper is going to sign with someone, anyways one can only hope.
Go get Senzel!!!!!
If they take Senzel, then the Reds should get another hometown boy, Josh Harrison, from the Pirates.
Fernando Tatis and McKenzie Gore? Done.
Lol yeah not happening. Gore and someone like Logan Allen and Gabriel arias is the most padres should offer for senzel.
Tatis is a better prospect than Senzel. Are you really that stupid or just a troll?
You’re acting like Senzel is a nobody. He’s a consensus top 10 prospect as well, and quite frankly, if Tatis ends up at third base (which is expected to happen eventually), I’m not so sure he is the better prospect. He probably still has more upside, but Senzel looks like a better bet to reach his ceiling with that hit tool of his.
And no, that’s not me advocating for a Tatis/Gore for Senzel package.
Padres have a hole at 3rd base too. If Tatis has to move there it doesn’t make him any less valuable to them. It just means they have to find a shortstop rather than having to find a 3rd baseman.
I’m pretty sure it was a joke
But… What about Sonny Gray? 😉
Gray to the Padres. It has been written.
For who? Gray won’t get Cash any decent prospects. He knows that. Other Yankee fans don’t seem to know that though. I read somewhere that the Padres had offered a pitcher named Kennedy and another prospect as their final offer.
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At the least… Mejia, but more likely Gore for Gray and 2M.
Isn’t Gray in a walk year. Gore isn’t going for 1 year of anybody. It makes no sense since the Padres won’t make the playoffs with or without Gray.
Please stop making Yankee fans look stupid. Gray had a 4.90 ERA last season and a 4.53 ERA the past 3 seasons. He has no value in trade and Cash has already said he will be traded so he has no leverage. The Yankees would be lucky to get a guy that already has MLB experience, but there is no way that they are getting any top 100 prospects, let alone the best catching prospect in baseball.
YANKEE FANS SUCK… They are mostly delusional!
I’m not a Yankee fan. Cashman has leverage because more than one team is interested in Gray. He will, of course, take the best offer, if he trades him. He doesn’t have to trade him. If the offer isn’t there, he will stay in NY and provide depth. If a team expects to acquire Gray, a quality offer will be needed.
Judge Judy – I now have coffee all over my monitor. thanks, thanks a lot
Kennedy is great at pitch location, but his stuff is a little underwhelming. Was excellent in hitter friendly AAA California league, but wasn’t so good in his few starts at the end of last season. Very small sample size.
It’s already a plus Padre offseason. No more Carlos Asuaje.
True true….back to Fortnite for him and walking the streets of Tokyo solo.
Baseball quote of the year.
“Dude, I’m streaming this.”
Now if we could only get rid of Pirela…
Blasphemy!
Pirela must have dirt on AJ. Why he is still with Pads is beyond me.
Cut Pirela, keep Myers in a super-Utility role. Starts 120-140, plays 160 at 6 positions including DH.
I don’t think Myers has the temperament to succeed as a super-utility. They need to pick a position and stick to it with him.
Can Bote get a halfway decent reliever if they even have one? If not I would keep him for depth
Only trade Bote if they take Chatwood too !
Well hell yeah id give that a go.
Probably not the Padres. I can see Bote getting traded for Chaz Roe of Tampa, but if they were on the same team, you can have a Roe-Bote.
We need a 3B option, so I could see us parting with Criag Stammen.
Clutch Bote isn’t going for cheap!!!!
Let’s not be crazy buddy.
You’re right. They should trade Bryant instead.
How could any educated writer say this: Myers may be the most difficult of three to move”
Myers owed over 60 mil he’s not close to being worth dough other OF’s make minimum wage. I mean seriously.
Sounds like you worked this through yourself…
I mean seriously
Renfroes easier to trade out of all those guys had a 2.4WAR 26 hrs in 440 plate appearances, ops over .800 is controlled for 5 more years and is making the mlb minimum. Myers would be my first choice to trade but its hard with his backloaded contract.
Dodgers send Kenta Maeda to Padres for Myers?
No
Stripling sure but not for Maeda.
Nope. Stripling for Renfroe, or Maeda for Myers
Only if the Dodgers eat some of Maeda’s contract.
Dodgers need a Mid Order RH +bat. They possess more than enough power, & can do with a bit lesser power output if they can obtain a more pure hitter. What they don’t need is another high K power hitter.
Maeda has been more than worth his contract. At only 3M base salary there is substantial value to the Dodgers in his ability to transition to the pen. As a Dodgers fan, it’s more than worth acknowledging Maeda has been screwed in terms of his contract. Myers’ contract bumps to 22M in 20-23. Pass on Myers who is not an elite hitter by any means, and somewhat sold out for power. No Dodgers aren’t eating any money. In order to move Myers, it’d be the Padres that would need to eat money. Neither scenario makes sense for the Dodgers tbh. And to a somewhat lesser degree the Padres either. The Padres complicated their roster with the unnecessary Hosmer move. Their OF possess some good players that are more so complimentary pieces. Maeda & Strip fall under that good, but growing list of players that may be part of packages to upgrade, as there’s not necessarily a long term road for them. Trading Maeda and/or Strip could potentially make sense, but not for COFs who aren’t better than what they currently have. Granted Renfroe may provide value as a 4th OF/ short side platoon in LF, but I can guarantee you the Padres don’t value him that way. COFs/1Bs come cheap at the deadline & really will be available. Not sure the Dodgers & Padres match up at all.
Maeda is a really good pitcher. Seems to get an equal amount of hate as Myers…
This probably makes too much sense to happen. I’d hate to see it happen just because I’m sure Myers turns into a beast in that dodger lineup
All of the Padres Homers on this site should like it. They were crying hard over losing guys in single A for Kluber… This moves one of the 6 starters we have in the OF and brings in a solid veteran for the rotation
Pads and Cleveland makes sense. BP and Renfroe for Jones? Maybe not enough.
San Diego and Atlanta seem like solid trade partners. San Diego could really use Camargo. Braves could either add someone like Renfroe to help in the OF or get rid of Camargo for some good Padres prospects and use them as trade bait for Bumgarner and/or Kluber.
I don’t know what’s holding it up, frankly. Everyone is so set on milking as much out these trades as possible and “winning the deal” that nothing is getting done. You could use Renfroe, we could use Camargo, let’s just get it done already.
Buy low on Kyle seager. Swapping seager myers and maybe prospects from both sides seems to help both teams.
Padres hoping seager can rebound mariners put myers at 1st to stay healthy.
Seager is 3 years older than Myers and not a very good player anymore. He won’t rebound at that age, just decline further. The Mariners have no real need for an OF or 1B. Myers can’t play 3B. That is 4 reasons that trade is not realistic.
Elite defender at 3B coming off a down year in 2018 offensively. From 2012 to 2017 seager posted a wrc of 105 or better and 3 war or better.
1 bad year offensively and youre projecting hes done lol. 31 32 33 even 34 guys are still productive. It’s baseball not football. 35 36 is where things start not working as well.
150+ games at 3B with elite defense is better than myers being on the DL with god knows what injury only playing 90 or less games.
Seager is NOT an elite defender anymore. -5 DRS in 2018 and -2 in 2017. Last good year on defense was 2016. Coming off TWO straight bad years offensively. Players start to decline at 30. He has had 2 straight declining years since turning 30. GM’s will not make that trade. They understand that decline starts at 30. Time to go get educated on baseball.
-5 DRS ranks him 15th in all of baseball at 3B.
Had a UZR of 6.6 2nd best of all 3B.
Had the 2nd best defensive rating of all 3B in the mlb according to fan graphs.
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So. Do you want to try again or are you content being continuously wrong every time you post?
“He Is NoT aN eLiTe DeFeNdEr” 2 out of 3 stats prove you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Only way I c Myers being traded is to a team that needs a 1B starter. Myers isn’t real good in the OF.
He is average to tick above average in LF and if you leave him there he will be good.
Problem is outfield seems to be too hard on Myers’ body. He’s never stayed healthy while in the OF.
They can have Miguel Andujar. Opens up a new spot for Machado.
Heres a trade proposal that I know is a bit far fetched, but something I think could make sense for both sides: The Padres trade Wil Myers to the giants in exchange for Evan Longoria and cash. The motive for the Padres is to clear salary for the years they are supposed to “contend”. Wil Myers is owed 22.5M yearly from 2020-2022. Longoria is owed 15M, 18M, then 19M in that same timespan. So clearly the Padres would be saving some extra cash in this deal. (Not to mention the giants would send some cash to the Padres.) Whether Longoria does well in SD or not isn’t really the point. For the Giants, the motive is to take a gamble in somebody who’s proven to have high upside. Historically Wil Myers has had his best numbers in Oracle Park. If he’s moved there for 2019, maybe he does better and the giants can flip him for prospects (Although they’d pay off either the entirety or majority of his contract to do so). The Giants can also solve their LF problem by slotting Myers there, and considering that they aren’t trying to contend or sign any notable free agents for the next few years, taking up some payroll in an attempt to possibly upgrade the farm later on could pay off.
When are they “supposed” to contend?
2020-2022. If they make this trade they would save money that they could instead spend on players better than Myers to go along with all their prospects. I understand though that when first read the trade doesn’t make sense, but Myers was only worth 0.5 more WAR than Evan Longoria was. Considering the Padres would be saving 15M (plus whatever the amount of cash the giants send in the deal). this move could be very possible.
If Longoria is traded his 2023 option becomes guaranteed. That means he is owed $81 million. The Padres would pay more money and get a less valuable player. Longoria is in decline and Myers is in his prime. 5 years difference in age. MLB GM’s are not stupid enough to make that kind of trade.
Longoria is 5 years older than Myers and in steep decline. If Longoria is traded, his 2023 option becomes guaranteed so you have to add $13 million to what he is owed. Longoria will make more money if traded and produce far less. Myers at least has a shot at being good. Longoria doesn’t. I see no value to the Padres in that trade scenario.
Where are you getting this information from? I see no where in Longorias contract info that states that his team option automatically gets excercised if he’s traded. If this is the case, then obviously the trade isn’t as good, however if not then my point still stands.
Longoria was already traded so if he indeed did have a clause that stated his 2023 option becomes guaranteed if he is traded wouldn’t it already been guaranteed?
Huh
Baseball quote of the year.
“Dude, I’m streaming this.”
Padre fans are about to come face-to-face with reality – the team has an abundance of quantity, not much quality.
Most teams have similar young players, either in the high minors or breaking into the majors. OK, the Padres may have a lot of OF’s. But other teams have infielders, pitchers, etc. There are only so many a team can play. Padre fans think Preller can package 3-4 of his young guys and come back with a quality major leaguer and a decent prospect. The difficulty there is that quality major leaguers are at a premium, so any team willing to trade one wants one top prospect and at least one very good one back.
With the Padres holding onto their top prospects, a realistic 3B target is a player that’s hit a wall or is in a decline. They’ll have to take on his contract. The difficulty is that Tatis is looking as if playing SS at the ML level is a stretch, and he may be their 3B by 2020.
You are serious aren’t you? Wow. Talk about a deluded fan.
I only wish the Yankees had both the quality and depth of prospects the Padres have. 7-8 of their prospects would be the #1 prospect on most teams. Their #10 and #11 prospects would be the #1 prospects on several teams.
That may be so but the Padres don’t have a Judge, Severino, a Sanchez a Torres or an Andujar. Having a top 3 farm system is nice, But having real productive young major league all stars is better. And the Yankees didn’t need to tank for 6-8 years like the Padres did to do it.
And it’s not like the Padres will win anything in the next 3-5 years.
Judge and Andujar weren’t exactly can’t miss types in the minors. Neither ever got in the top 50 of prospect rankings. You don’t know that the Padres don’t have guys like them that look good but not crazy good that have elite production once they hit the majors. The padres have a bunch of players that could do that
Where are you getting your information that Tatis Jr. won’t be able to handle SS. Fangraphs has a 50 on his fielding now and 55 future. Dennis Lin from the Athletic also has expressed his confidence in Tatis Jr.’s future at SS in his chat Thursday.
I also agree that Tatis will be a 3rd baseman. With Urias probably starting at SS to begin the season I am really curious as to how well be plays. If it’s positive maybe we don’t need a SS or a 3b
3 team trade
Padres: Senzel and Allard
Braves: Renfroe and Yates
Reds: Gohara and Hedges
I admit I feel the Reds aren’t getting enough here but not sure the way to even it out
Maybe the only thing Padres get is Senzel, Braves keep Gohara and Allard but send Wright to Cincy instead
Send gore to the Reds. Remove hedges and add wentz from braves and cal quantril from padres. Also add stammen to the Braves haul.
That’s gonna be a “no” on trading MacKenzie Gore
Paddack Logan Allen Lamet Luchessi Weathers Patino Baez Morejon etc. Padres have more than enough high end pitching to sustain losing Gore.
Padres 3B options include…….. Well nobody currently.
Senzel fills a bigger need for the padres than Gore does. You give up talent to get talent.
You trade one of those guys you mentioned, not the best one (Gore). A big part of the Cubs/Astros success was knowing who to keep.
Another part of their success was filling positional needs in the draft vs targeting pitching. Cubs drafted Baez Bryant Happ Almora etc and left spending on proven pitching. Also traded pitching for an elite ss prospect in Russell.
Astros got Bregman correra Springer and traded for verlander.
So I mean two teams who the padres are modeling sought after positions being filled vs stockpiling pitching.
Already kind of messed that up signing hosmer to his deal. Would of rather had keuchel and gonzalez this off season rather than hosmer.
I wouldn’t have signed Hosmer because the Padres already had Myers and Naylor in the organization. Only position the Padres really need to fill at this point is SS or 3B, wherever FTJ doesn’t end up at.
The Reds already have a better all around C locked up. Hedges is superfluous. Prospect for prospect trades never really occur. Especially for an advanced hitter like Senzel. Reds easily say no.
You’re a padre fan obviously. thats trash for the reds and braves
Swap out Reds for Mariners.
Hanniger to the Braves.
Can put Carmargo in it if Hanniger gets to ATL. Braves don’t want to lose him but they would for Hanniger I’m pretty sure.
Mariners need overpay – so ATL/SD giving up pieces to convince SEA to do it.
What does it look like?
Get senzel. Perfect fit
Cue the asinine comment from @outinleftfield about how Wil Myers is a tradeable asset
or cue the asinine comment about how Wil Myers is trash
works both ways. Hyperbole sux
Franco to the padres once the Phils get machado
Franco has had a 0.0 WAR the past two seasons. What do you think the Phillies could get for him?
Pirela and Perdomo say hello
There were reports early on about a Franco/Hand deal but since then the Phillies have acquired like 5 new bullpen pieces. Couple high A guys maybe
Why would the Indians trade Hand for a 3B they dont need?
Probably a reliever and Cal Quantril.
I wish the Yankees could put together some kind of package with Gray and Andujar for some top prospects, but it’s probably time to give up that pipe dream of Machado
exactly!!! Machado and Harper are a pipe dream that Yankee fans refuse to wake up from LMAO
Another jealous non-Yankee fan. Most Yankee fans don’t want Machado or Harper. They have a great team capable of winning the WS without either of those guys. What exactly have Harper and Machado won in their careers? Answer? Nothing.
not a jealous non-yankee fan… they do not have the pitching or the Huevos to beat BOSTON or HOUSTON… They will make the playoffs and get bounced out again LMAO
THATS NOTING TO BE JEALOUS OF LOLOLOL
Well, there IS an MVP trophy in there somewhere…
Most current Yankee players haven’t won anything either.
I don’t think Gray adds tons of value with only 1 year of control. The Pads likely finish 4th or 5th with or without him.
The value in gray is the same value in players like Teheran Mike Leake etc. You hope to buy low they catch lightning in a bottle for the padres like pomeranz and rodney did and you trade them for more than you gave up. It’s a gamble.
Renfroe + Jankowski for Camargo. Seems like a good match for both teams.
Camargo way more valuable than that to the Braves. Whether or not the rest of the league values him as highly is irrelevant.
Wha happens when Swanson continues to be mediocre or Donaldson gets hurt?
Braves painted themselves into a corner with some of their decisions and Camargo is pretty much essential with how they decided to structure the infield.
Relying on way too many question marks so he’s not exactly expendable for an outfielder.
Padres putting all their eggs in the Luis Urias basket at 2nd base hasn’t stopped people from suggesting him in trades.
Not really sure what you mean by “all their eggs in the Luis Urias basket”. Padres do have other 2b options on the 40-man although they’re not very inspiring. Kinsler is the 2b man also Pirela and Garcia can both play 2b. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Urias start in AAA if they can get another year of control out of him.
You did not just suggest Ian Kinsler, Jose Pirela or Greg Garcia as replacements for Urias at 2B lol. I’d delete that comment if you want people to take you seriously.
I don’t really care how people take me. Fact is Kinsler starts the season at 2b. Urias probably starts the season in AAA and if not he’ll most likely be playing SS.
Fact is Kinsler is way past his prime while Urias’ prime hasn’t started yet, Kinsler is only signed for 2 years while Urias is controlled for 6 and Kinsler will probably be relegated a “player-coach” role sooner than later.
Oh and Greg Garcia and Jose Pirela are not starting 2B’s on a contending team.
Well by stating “Padres putting all their eggs in the Luis Urias basket at 2nd base” you make it sound like Urias is the only guy who can play 2b. I pointed out he’s not and if that makes me a joke so be it..
Don’t know where your getting that I’m advocating for any of those guys over Urias, I’m not. Simply pointing out the fact that he isn’t the only 2b in the basket.
Oh and the Padres are NOT contenders.
“… you make it sound like Urias is the only guy who can play 2b. I pointed out he’s not and if that makes me a joke so be it..”
Well I mean sure, they could sign me up to play 2nd base, but I probably wouldn’t be all that good at it. Neither are Jose Pirela or Greg Garcia.
“Oh and the Padres are NOT contenders.”
For the moment, you are correct. And if Urias is traded it will stay that way.
They’re not trading Urias, anyone suggesting they are is off their rocker. Way to many other areas to trade from.
Lot of people are off their rocker then
Have you looked around lately, the whole world is off it’s rocker.
The Padres aren’t a contending team and won’t be for years.
Well that may be true but if I’m the Padres or any other team for that matter I’m not going to overpay for Camargo. A solid player but not a star.
Braves do have Culberson who can play the infield. I do get your point though, probably isn’t as good of a fit as I assumed.
I’m hoping SD holds onto Jankowski. He seems like a Dave Roberts 2.0. Every team needs a player like that
I think if the Pads are able to move an outfielder it will being either Renfroe or Reyes as they probably have the most trade value of the bunch. Not sure how other teams view Franchy, I’d think he’d get some interest also.
You’d think the Padres would try and make an effort to get Franchy some considerable playing time so I just don’t see where Jankowski is going to get his at bats. Can the Padres carry 5 outfielders on the 25 man roster? I don’t think they can. Myers, Reyes, Renfroe, Margot, Cordero and Jankowski makes 6 guys vying for 4 spots.
It’s definitely going to be interesting to see how it unfolds.
Agreed
I’m hoping Jankowski gets the 4th spot
They can carry 5 with Myers covering the corner infield positions as well.
Maybe a bad contract swap could be in order. Kyle Segar and something else for Myers.
Seager’s contract has a built in player option if he gets traded and he is clearly less valuable than Myers is
I might be mistaken but doesn’t Myers have the same clause.
But that’s also why I put “Kyle segar and something else”.
It may not be fair value straight up. However when you have 6 outfielders and 0 thirdbasemen… you might want to start looking at scenarios like this.
I believe a better player than Seager can be had for Myers. But at least this move would fill a need. Better than trading for a 3rd starting catcher!
The Mariners don’t really have much at 1st base either. I know that Leake is from SD and the Padres need someone to eat innings. Maybe something like Seagar Leake money low end prospects for Wil and low end prospects would make everyone happy.
Padres: ” We want proven major league players in trades… but you can’t have any of our top, yet unproven, minor league prospects ” lololol
Other teams: “We don’t realize that the Padres #6 prospect would be #1 or #2 in our organzation”
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Keep dreaming lololololol
Don’t have to lololololol
Lololololol I just wanted to fit in.
Camargo is a logical fit as Padres new 3b. Franmil Reyes would fill the Braves OF vacancy but they might want to go for a bigger fish instead of smaller potato.
At 6’5″ 275 idk if small.potato is the best analogy to use for Frankie reyes.
Franmil…. but I’m sure he’s happy to just be included
Pass. Reyes is a potential monster. Not trading him for an okay 3B. It’s Renfroe or we’ll wait for the Phillies to sign Machado and take Franco. Hell, I’d rather keep Reyes and sign Moustakas.
who’s kiddin who? Mouse will be your new 3rd baseman. mark my words
Need to consider signing Matt Davidson – young, two-way player who wouldn’t be that expensive.
The versatility of Camargo makes a lot of sense for the Padres. With Tatis jr. arriving soon; Camargo could shift to whatever vacant infield position that is needed at the current time. The Braves need both outfielder(s) and relievers, and I don’t think that they want to break the bank for Kimbrel.
Likely won’t happen, but I’d be OK with a three team trade among the Padres, Indians, and Yankees. Andujar goes to San Diego, Kluber goes to New York, and assorted prospects go to Cleveland. Pipe dream I’m sure, but there has been a lot of chatter on Miggy since the offseason started
For the 500th time, Cleveland is not looking for just prospects. Part of the package must be MLB or MLB ready players.
That’s terrible for the Yankees. Kluber faced a boatload of .400 teams and is terrible in the post season you obviously don’t follow Kluber much. Only a fool would trade for Kluber and give up proven major league talent he’s barely .500 against winning teams. He only wins in Cleveland because that division is the worst in baseball history
Cleveland faced .400 level teams in over half their games last year. Nobody in baseball history has ever done that. Their division outside of Cleveland was at .404
He’d be trash in the A L east
Cleveland played 88 games last year against teams that had a combined winning percentage of .387. That’s more than half their games against teams that lost just about on average 100 games a season. And Kluber was barely .500 against the rest of the league and in the last 2 post seasons he’s had an ERA of just under ten. Why would anyone pay a premium for that? Even Sonny Gray could go 15-3 against those kinds of opponents.
Excellent points
I’m sure Mets would be willing to trade the Toddfather to them, but I don’t see any way the Mets would take on Myers contract after taking on Cano’s as long as they still have Cespedes’ contract, even if Friars took Vargas, too. I think Padres would want more unless Mets took the remainder of the contract without asking for cash.
I was thinking Frazier too. Even if mets eat half the salary and get one of their trillion outfielders, preferably one that can play center or a bullpen piece. Nothing big.
Bote? Why would anyone want Bote as a starter? He’s fine on the bench, but not as a starter.
They should just sign Moustakas and keep all of their prospect capital.
The problem is there isn’t anything at 3B on the horizon except Hudson Potts, and he’s a big question mark.
Owen Miller. He was playing 3rd half the time in low A. He’ll probably split the time with Potts in Amarillo, but he hits too well to not pass him up.
Would Matt Davidson be an upgrade?
I think Will Myers is the guy the Padres want to trade. He’s on the last year of being cheap, then goes to 3 years at $20mm per. With all the youth and talent in their system, they don’t need to be paying $20mm for a non elite Outfielder. There are plenty of teams they could make a swap with. They need infield help, specifically 3B. I could also see them valuing some veteran leadership outside of Hosmer.
With that said, I don’t think Myers brings back any top tier young talent because of that contract. It’s more of a bad contract swap and maybe add a quality bullpen arm or a #4 or #5 starter coming back to SD. If they were not in the same division I could see the Giants matching up with SD on a deal, but the Giants rarely ever trade inside of the division.
In order to get a guy like Senzel, Camargo, et al, the Padres would have to be deal just as good young prospects back, which makes little to no sense for them. They are a smaller market team and have an incredibly bright future. I’d be more surprised if they start dealing young prospects for other young talent than if they were to sign Manny Machado (that’s not happening either).
Bote adds value as a clutch bench guy who can make some spectacular plays at 3B. Cubs should not trade him for cheap. If the brass hasn’t lost its marbles, they should trade Bryant while his stock is still high.
San Diego will take either! and while you’re at it, give us back Rizzo too please
Sorry, Rizzo is retiring in Cubs uniform lol
Lotto numbers please
Who is living closer to reality?
Braves fans and their love for Camargo or the Padres fans and their love for everyone in Brown & Gold??
Seems like Camargo is either a future H.O.F. or an over hyped prospect. Is there a middle ground somewhere? Could it be that Camargo is exactly the same thing as Cordero, Reyes? A really good young player that hasn’t proven chit yet but has a high ceiling…
Would braves fans really cry about getting Renfroe back for a displaced player who is going into 2019 as a utility player?? Renfroe just hit 26 homers, is young and has a cannon for an arm. Plus the Braves have a need for an OF. What am I missing here?
I don’t have a love affair going with Camargo, but it’s pretty easy to see he would start for the Padres
A utility player that can provide depth and bounce around the entire infield with plus defense and a S hitter is extremely more valuable. Offensively both players were comparable. A COF who is not an elite hitter is just simply not as valuable. If I’m the Braves there is no way I make that trade, because I can basically find a COF at the deadline for next to nothing. Don’t get it twisted Camargo is going to basically start everyday and utility guy is not a bad thing anymore.
I should disclose that I do have a love affair going for Renfroe..
Camargo should be considered a target for the Padres. And as much as I hate to say it, if Renfroe can bring back some value they should consider moving him. It may not be straight up….but these two are closer than either side is willing to admit
This reminds me of the time when we had Will Venable and Denorfia and Blanks… None of those guys went on to greatness, all of them could have been used as trade chips early on to boost other areas. Instead we kept too many OF’ers on the roster and got next to nothing in return when they finally decided to trade them
Love affair is kind of strong, but I’m high on Renfroe too. He really finished the final 3rd of the season strong. Since he opened up his stance he has been back to hitting a ton. It seemed he was hitting better against righties with the adjustment. He needs another season with the Pads. I feel we’re going to look stupid if we trade him.
Of course look stupid but that’s Padre way
padres get andujar and sonny gray from the yanks for austin hedges matt strahm and wil myers
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