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Hunter Renfroe Drawing Trade Interest

By Steve Adams | June 11, 2019 at 12:41pm CDT

As explored at MLBTR last week, the Padres have a well-known surplus of outfield options, and the mix could soon become even more crowded with Franchy Cordero (and, eventually, Travis Jankowski) on the mend. The Friars moved Alex Dickerson in a trade with the Giants this week, shedding one outfielder from their 40-man roster, but Dickerson hasn’t factored prominently into the crowded outfield picture anyhow. His departure does little to thin the field.

The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reported this morning (subscription required) that a  more prominent player, Hunter Renfroe, has been “quite popular” with other clubs as the Padres and other teams begin to explore trade possibilities now that the draft is in the rear-view mirror.

Renfroe was an oft-speculated offseason trade candidate, as the outfield crunch facing the Padres isn’t exactly a new development. But the Padres held onto all of their outfielders this winter, as they were seemingly unable to find an offer to their liking. In the case of Renfroe, that should prove to have been a smart play given that the 27-year-old has elevated his stock through the first two-plus months of the 2019 campaign. Through his first 196 plate appearances, Renfroe is hitting .243/.296/.602 with 18 home runs, nine doubles and a triple.

The on-base issues that plagued Renfroe in prior seasons are still present; his 7.1 percent walk rate is a near-mirror image of last year’s 6.8 percent, and he’s actually seen his strikeout rate rise from 24.7 percent to 27 percent. Renfroe’s average exit velocity has increased, though, and he’s shown more power than ever before. It’s extraordinarily unlikely that he’ll sustain his current 32.1 percent homer-to-flyball ratio — that’s only been done three times in the past decade — but an increase from last year’s 20.1 percent rate seems quite reasonable.

Beyond that, Renfroe’s glovework has improved by virtually any metric available. He’s already topped last year’s total of five Defensive Runs Saved in fewer than half as many innings. Ultimate Zone Rating has never pegged him as a positive defender, but he’s at +4.2 in 2019. Statcast’s Outs Above Average (+2) gives him a positive grade for the first time in his career as well.

In Renfroe, teams likely see a flawed but talented slugger whose power and defensive skills may be on the rise. He’s controlled for another four seasons beyond the 2019 campaign, although he’ll be arbitration-eligible in each of those years by virtue of Super Two status. Renfroe looks likely to head into arbitration on the heels of a 30-homer season and with upwards of 90 career long balls in the bank, so the arbitration process will treat him nicely. But even though he’ll be well-compensated over the long haul, he’s still a couple of productive years from securing a truly significant salary.

That considerable amount of club control remaining will give the Padres some pause when it comes to trading Renfroe, but they’ve also been linked to controllable starting pitchers for quite some time now. Renfroe is the type of piece who could help them to acquire such an asset. Corner outfielders are easier to come by than quality starters, so to acquire multiple seasons of such an arm, the Padres may need to include some other parts. As noted in last week’s look at their logjam, the Padres aren’t short on internal replacement options for Renfroe, and several teams with starters for sale are notably thin in the outfield. The Tigers (Matthew Boyd), Blue Jays (Marcus Stroman), Indians (Trevor Bauer, if they move him) all face some uncertainty in the outfield.

The mere fact that Renfroe is drawing interest doesn’t mean he’s any kind of lock to be moved. The Padres could move a different outfielder or, as they showed this offseason, forgo any sort of move and find a creative means of keeping all their current assets through the end of the season. Other injuries around the roster could always arise and lessen any urgency to make a decision this summer. Renfroe is an increasingly attractive trade piece, though, and his name figures to be mentioned frequently over the next seven weeks as the deadline draws nearer.

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  1. Ully

    4 years ago

    I could see him in a Blue Jays uniform.

    Reply
    • twinsfan368

      4 years ago

      Go get em twins. No jk but the twins should be able to acquire Felipe Vazquez and Ken Giles

      Reply
      • SuperSinker

        4 years ago

        Gonna take some serious ammunition for either/both

        Reply
  2. sufferfortribe

    4 years ago

    Elevated his stock? Geez, how bad was he?

    Reply
    • lowtalker1

      4 years ago

      Not that bad. He was chasing bad pitches. He put too much on his throw and it’ll go wild. He is much more patient at the plate. He works counts. He cut down on a lot of bad pitch swings. He is taking strike three on borderline pitches trying to get on base.

      Reply
      • thekid9

        4 years ago

        Thank you Johnny Superscout

        Reply
      • Ully

        4 years ago

        Great breakdown, you really painted a good pitcher of a player who not too many have seen day in and day out.

        Reply
  3. papadrefan

    4 years ago

    maybe not the return they’d like. But if the Padres must move a name or 2 in the OF, they sure consider Jankowski and/or Cordero. intangibles are important. the club seems to have messed great ( with these two absent) and offense seems ok.

    Reply
    • SalaryCapMyth

      4 years ago

      “Intangibles” is that magic word that forgives players with unproductive bats. The return you would get for Jankowsky would be VERY tangible. It would be just above a bag of baseballs.

      Reply
      • padreforlife

        4 years ago

        Padre fans don’t understand that Janko is worthy of bag of baseballs

        Reply
        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Here we go…

  4. fruitsaladyummyyummy

    4 years ago

    Padres should package him to the Royals for Whit Merrifield.

    Luis Urias, Logan Allen, Austin Allen, Hunter Renfroe.

    Gives the Royals 4 MLB ready

    Reply
    • lowtalker1

      4 years ago

      No Whitt

      Reply
      • fruitsaladyummyyummy

        4 years ago

        Top of the order 2B, top 5 2B in MLB, on a very team friendly contract next 3.5 years or so. Padres are looking to contend as soon as next year. Whit fits financially and production wise. Would love to wait and see if Urias can figure it out, but 2B and CF need answers before guys get expensive

        Reply
        • Jacob Sizemore

          4 years ago

          That’s maybe a touch too much but I like where you are at with it. Nice username too.

    • Xavier Blaine

      4 years ago

      Whitt isn’t what they’re looking for. It would be more like a Max Fried, Matthew Boyd type guy, a pitcher who’s still young and controllable and is in the midst of a breakout. I doubt Braves would trade Fried unless Yates was involved in the trade, but Boyd looks like somebody Padres could get with Renfroe and a few prospects.

      Reply
      • Show Me Your Tatis

        4 years ago

        Maybe they should trade Justin Upton for Max Fried. Oh wait…

        Reply
        • padreforlife

          4 years ago

          We know for sure Preller if he trades Renfroe will get nothing for him because that’s how genius rolls

      • Judd_Skinner

        4 years ago

        Why on earth would Detroit trade Matthew Boyd for Hunter Renfroe and prospects? Detroit is in full blown rebuild, so if/when they trade Boyd it will be headlined by someone much more valuable than a soon to be expensive 27 year old outfielder.

        Also, in no scenario would the Braves trade from their current MLB rotation for an outfielder. They’re set with Riley, Acuna, Markakis, and Inciarte in the outfield. If anything, they’ll look for even more pitching help.

        Reply
        • Xavier Blaine

          4 years ago

          Hence why I said “they wouldn’t trade Fried unless Yates was involved” idiots like you just love to get into arguments on these threads nowadays huh?

        • Melchez

          4 years ago

          Renfroe would fit right into the Tiger outfield. Another bad defensive corner OFer that flirts with the Mendoza line. Under .300 OBP? Strikes out a TON!!!
          YES!!!! All the check marks are coming out. Let’s see…. Is he really slow? He has to be really slow. Maybe not VMart slow, but right up there. Ooooh, Ooooh, Ooooh… please Avila, trade by far our best player for the next Marcus Thames.

        • Judd_Skinner

          4 years ago

          So by your logic the Braves would trade their young, cost controlled, #2 starter for a middling outfielder and a RP when they have no need for an outfielder and a great need for starting pitching? Idiots like you just shouldn’t post on these threads at all.

    • lowtalker1

      4 years ago

      No urias
      Since you want to make stupid trades I’ll counter that with
      Kinsler, Perdomo, pirela, and Erlin

      Reply
      • fruitsaladyummyyummy

        4 years ago

        Ignorance is your best quality isnt it.

        Merrifield is owed – 5 mill in 2020, 6.75 mill in 2021, 2.75 mill in 2022, club option of 10.75 mill in 2023.

        padres have a team OBP of .294…….his OBP of .344 would be 1st on the padres out of guys with at least 200 at bats. Yeah Padres clearly do not need guys who can get on base or production from top of the order………theyve got that covered clearly being ranked 28th in the MLB when it comes to getting on base.

        Reply
        • lowtalker1

          4 years ago

          All of witts value is in his legs. They go and so does his value. Padres have one of the best 2nd baseman in the minors and he is stuck there until thu dfa kinsler. They don’t need a Witt. They need starting pitching and relief pitchers.

        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          1-The offer is not happening. I like Merrifield, but he isn’t that much better than Renfroe. You’re certainly not getting a #20 prospect & #80 prospect in addition to a young slugger with 4.5 years of control left.

          2-Your argument style is weak. You are sarcastically saying that, since Merrifield would be a okay fit, that it is okay for the Padres to overpay. In fact, it fact, almost mandatory to overpay. It’s a bit like saying that the Nats should give up Soto for Hand, because they need an RP.

          3-SD is not desperate to make a trade. They probably need to play .600+ the remainder of the way to make the WC, and they are unlikely to do so. And they haven’t even opened their window of opportunity yet.

          Urias for Merrifield is probably as well as you can do.

        • thebighurt619

          4 years ago

          1. Teams value on base skills more than slugging now a days. Renfroe has little to no value given his subpar on base skills. An OBP below .300 isnt valued as much as you think. The “oooo he hit ball far” hasnt been a thing in years.

          2. The OP clearly stated Merrifield fit for 2 reasons.
          A. He has a very financially friendly contract
          B. He meets a serious need in providing on base skills the padres as a team lack
          Your lack of reading comprehension doesnt make their argument invalid. Means you need to work on your reading skills.
          Also, trading position for position isnt the same as position for relief pitcher. Dumb comparison on your part.

          3. Merrifield isnt a rental……..did you miss the part where the OP stated he has 3.5 years of team control? Merrifield is a long term investment……

          4. A comparable deal a few years back was Logan Forscthye being traded to the Dodgers with 1 or 2 years less team control for then premier prospect Jose De Leon who ranked 20-35 before TJS. Very comparable players in terms of production.

          5. Ultimately it may cost more than just Luis Urias to acquire Merrifield as many teams could be in the hunt for his services. Royals may wait till the off season to move him but many teams will have interest.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Urias > Merrifield especially if the Padres would have to throw more prospects into the trade

    • Show Me Your Tatis

      4 years ago

      No.

      Urias > Merrifield

      Reply
      • BigPapiOrtiz

        4 years ago

        Disagree

        Reply
      • Priggs89

        4 years ago

        No, no he’s not.

        Reply
        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Merrifield is 30

        • Priggs89

          4 years ago

          Oh. So the > symbol means younger than. Got it. I agree now.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          As Koamalu has repeated multiple times, a player’s prime years are 26-30. Merrifield likely doesn’t have much career left and he certainly won’t get better than he is now.

      • JoeBrady

        4 years ago

        For contract purposes, probably.

        I see Merrifield as a ~ 3 WAR player, with slight expected decline, and 4.5 seasons left, or 13.5 WAR.

        Urias is not at that level, but certainly has enough talent to meet and surpass Merrifield’s 3.0 at some point, and you have 6.5 seasons left.

        If this were the RS, with a shorter window, I’d pull that trigger. But with the loaded Padres system, and a timeline of probably 5+ years, and small current year chances, I’d keep Urias.

        Reply
    • rizdak

      4 years ago

      Lol
      You forgot the Padres including Manny Machado for salary relief

      Reply
    • dvmin98

      4 years ago

      Way too much. Remove Urias and possibly add someone like Arias, ok, but that is way too much for Merrifield.

      Reply
    • Dustin Michels

      4 years ago

      Ummm…If the Padres offered that package they could get Merrifield and Kennedy imo

      Reply
    • rice

      4 years ago

      As a royals fan I can see Duffy being in the deal as well. Even though he’s not as good as he was in our playoff runs I think he has the potential to turn it around and be a good starter at Petco.

      Reply
    • SalaryCapMyth

      4 years ago

      Urias might be enough alk by himself. Give Urias more time? He has had 24 major league at bats. Of course he should be given more time.

      Reply
    • Koamalu

      4 years ago

      Why would the Padres want a 30 year old player whose game is dependent on his legs? He is guaranteed to start a very steep decline soon.

      Considering the fact that the Padres have Urias, the #1 Second base prospect in the game raking in AAA right now and that Renfroe has contributed as much or more than Merrifield on offense, that wold be a hard no by the Padres.

      Urias may actually have more value in trade than Merrifield right now.

      Reply
      • lowtalker1

        4 years ago

        You bore me

        Reply
      • Priggs89

        4 years ago

        Isn’t every major league baseball player’s game dependent on their legs? I’ve never seen one without legs…

        He’s an .800+ OPS second baseman that can also move all over the field and be at least competent. His legs certainly add value, but they aren’t even close to the only reason he has value (Billy Hamilton).

        Reply
        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          He’s also 30. In other words, in his decline years.

          Anyway, the Padres can afford to wait on Urias, who will be better than Merrifield during their window anyway.

  5. The Process

    4 years ago

    Renfroe and Jankowski for Boyd

    Reply
    • SuperSinker

      4 years ago

      Lol

      Reply
    • Dustin Michels

      4 years ago

      Urias and Patino for Boyd is more the cost

      Reply
    • Dustin Michels

      4 years ago

      Urias and Naylor for Boyd is another possibility that the Tigers would do

      Reply
      • Melchez

        4 years ago

        “Urias and Naylor for Boyd is another possibility that the Tigers would do:
        I would take that deal. Naylor could step into first and Urias at second. I would try and sneak a lefty from them, maybe Logan Allen just to see if they’d do it.

        Reply
    • stymeedone

      4 years ago

      Its gonna take a stronger offer for Boyd. Jones has changed his stance and is hitting. Stewart is the future power bat. Don’t see a need for a corner OF, but 2b is a concern as is pitching for Detroit. try again.

      Reply
      • Koamalu

        4 years ago

        Boyd has exactly 2.5 months of baseball that is above average in 5 seasons. He is 28 years old. Its not going to take much to acquire him from the Tigers. A couple of prospects that are outside the top 100 would be enough.

        Reply
        • lowtalker1

          4 years ago

          Boring

    • Koamalu

      4 years ago

      Too much for a guy in Boyd that had a 5.07 ERA over 5 years coming into this season. He has had exactly 2 months of good pitching. No team is giving up a haul for someone like that.

      Reply
      • lowtalker1

        4 years ago

        Yawn

        Reply
  6. Wolf Hoffmann

    4 years ago

    With all due respect papadrefan. What are you trying to communicate? I don’t understand what you wrote and I read it three times.

    Reply
    • lowtalker1

      4 years ago

      Basically the speed of jank and bat of coredero were missed. But, either way, bone head green would still put myers in center “to get his bat in the lineup” even though he sucks at center and his bat is ice cold. Only reason he is out there everyday is his contract. The same goes for kinsler. Green sucks

      Reply
      • hacksaw

        4 years ago

        Sounds like Preller is the one who sucks, he gave Myers that contract.

        Reply
      • Koamalu

        4 years ago

        Myers is playing exactly league average CF according to StatCast. Since DRS and UZR require 3 years of data to be accurate you can throw those out the window in talking about his play in CF.

        Myers biggest problem right now is not his defense, its his NL leading strike out rate.

        Reply
      • Koamalu

        4 years ago

        And yes, Green sucks. A Hispanic friend of mine in SD calls him Pinche Verde. The name fits.

        Reply
        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          One username is the simple solution. But it appears it is not the easy solution.

        • Pads Fans

          4 years ago

          They started using that name on Padres boards last year. It does fit.

      • padreforlife

        4 years ago

        Can’t steal 1st base so the speed of Janko is nonexistent

        Reply
      • SDHotDawg

        4 years ago

        The ONLY thing Cordero can do is hit, and his K-rate is horrible. His defense belongs in AZL ball.

        Janks is a superior defender – better than Margot, he is an elite base stealer, and his OBP is about league avg.

        Myers just needs to go.

        Reply
  7. Wolf Hoffmann

    4 years ago

    Renfroe is pretty awful. He had a great 36 plate appearances in 2016 and he has been bad since. That OBP is pitiful. If the Padres can get anything half decent for him they should be thrilled.

    Reply
    • BigPapiOrtiz

      4 years ago

      Agreed

      Reply
    • Koamalu

      4 years ago

      That may be the dumbest comment on the thread. Congratulations!

      .900 OPS is All Star level play. Being on pace for 40+ HR is All Star level play.

      Reply
    • SDHotDawg

      4 years ago

      You don’t know anything if you think Renfroe is “awful.” Good grief.

      Reply
  8. Banesays

    4 years ago

    And here I thought WCR guaranteed that Renfroe was going to be a “sure thing”. A.J. built such a “great” farm system….

    Reply
    • khopper10

      4 years ago

      Slugging over .600 is damn impressive regardless of the OBP.

      Reply
      • Banesays

        4 years ago

        that may be, but I remember him feuding with others on here stating, “Renfroe is going to be a part of the next Padre’s playoff team” And here we are reading rumors about him being dangled on the trade market.

        Reply
        • Koamalu

          4 years ago

          We are reading rumors of teams having interest in Renfroe. Much different than him being dangled on the trade market. The Padres have shown no indication that they desire to trade Renfroe.

        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          But that has nothing to do with Renfroe. He’s being dangled because he has value, and the Padres have other outfielders, not because he isn’t any good.

    • Koamalu

      4 years ago

      WCR hated Renfroe. 30 HR, .900 OPS is pretty much a “sure thing”.

      Reply
      • SDHotDawg

        4 years ago

        I’ll second that. And yes, WCR was not a Renfroe fan.

        Reply
  9. carlosrosette76

    4 years ago

    Hunter is not going to be traded he is know a power asset for my San Diego Padres de duo of Reyes and Renfroe will smash ball at Petco Park for a long time if healthy both of them , I see they will trade maybe Myers , Cordero or Margot … Hope Renfroe does not go on any trade in the near Future..

    Reply
    • jeffmaz

      4 years ago

      Reyes and Renfroe are both 40+ HR guys. Add those to TatisJr, Hosmer, Myers (hopefully gone soon) and Machado each hitting around 30 = crazy offense power. If their young pitchers develop and the bullpen gets fixed…

      Reply
  10. towinagain

    4 years ago

    NOOOO! No a thousand times over to the Pads trading Renfroe. He, as is with the rest of the Padres, are the recipient of a ‘Padres’ strike zone.

    What’s a ‘Padres Strike Zone’? The opposing pitcher is routinely awarded the outside corridor as well as six inches to a foot below the strike zone. This affects the overall at bat forcing hitters to adjust and thus striking out.

    Why? San Diego is an ‘insignificant’ market in regards to the rest of MLB. Visitors outnumber local Padres fans at games. It behooves MLB to create a friendly environment for opponents fans at games. San Diego is a coveted vacation draw.

    Heck! Mike Trout would struggle here!

    Put Renfroe in St. Louis, NY or Boston and he rakes.

    Until MLB institutes an electronic, automated strike zone we will never truly see a level playing field.

    There is a reason the Padres have never pitched a no-hitter…they don’t recieve a fair strike zone.

    Reply
    • daonlyjmo37

      4 years ago

      I don’t think that’s it. You can look at pitch f/x and they aren’t getting screwed over. Sounds like a sour fan right here

      Reply
      • towinagain

        4 years ago

        Guessing you rarely watch Padres games. F/X provides ample evidence that early in the game opposing pitchers are granted generous strike zones. Once the Padres are down a run or two then the strike zone shrinks.

        Yes, its strategic. An 0-1 or 0-2 count is a much more difficult at bat.

        The inordinate zone for opponents pitchers early on creates a disproportionate hole from which the team has to come back from.

        Reply
        • padreforlife

          4 years ago

          Is that the excuse for 3 playoff wins in 50 years?

    • Priggs89

      4 years ago

      That’s quite the conspiracy theory.

      Reply
      • towinagain

        4 years ago

        Only team in baseball without a no hitter? Only 2 cycles? The facts speak for themselves.

        Reply
        • nypadre66

          4 years ago

          Or it could just be that the Padres have sucked for most of those 50 years. Hell, Dock Ellis was high on speed and no-hit the Padres back in the 70’s.

        • SDHotDawg

          4 years ago

          Speed is a PED.

      • The-Beast

        4 years ago

        Grain of truth there. Padres currently have 3 hitters topping the out of zone strikes and none in the in zone ball categories.

        Reply
    • hockeyjohn

      4 years ago

      Give it a rest. Every fan base thinks that they do not get the calls. Every team deals with it.

      Reply
    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      If that was true, wouldn’t Renfroe have a higher OPS on the road than at home?

      Reply
    • hockeyjohn

      4 years ago

      Just did a little research on Mike Trout. The only time that Trout played at Petco Park was in 2012. He had 7 hits in 12 at bats. I guess you are wrong with that one. All teams complain about the strike zone, Do you want a little cheese with your whine.

      Reply
  11. Pickle_Britches

    4 years ago

    Idk why they wont just keep him? Hes still young and a middle of the order bat. 18hr 898ops is not too bad. Good player to have while building a younger team.

    Reply
  12. mrpadre19

    4 years ago

    Renfroe May be traded…..but it would be for a controllable Starter or a LH centerfielder with on base skills…..like an Adam Eaton.
    Not for a 2b

    Reply
    • hockeyjohn

      4 years ago

      Merrifield does play outfield as well as 2nd base. He has played right field in 29 games and center field in 5 games so far this season. He is a solid major league player.

      Reply
      • Show Me Your Tatis

        4 years ago

        None of which are positions the Padres have a need at

        Reply
        • hockeyjohn

          4 years ago

          Hasn’t center field been one of the positions that you guys have been complaining about constantly?

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          I think they’d just roll with Myers there before they trade for Merrifield to use him there. Myers has actually managed to be passable in CF this year. It’s not ideal, but neither is using Merrifield there.

        • padreforlife

          4 years ago

          Roll with Myers yea that’s a winning recipe

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Go to an asylum

  13. algionfriddo

    4 years ago

    Can Franchy Cordero be good enough to play CF verses the majority of RHP? Is he just a 4/5 OF’er?

    Reply
    • Koamalu

      4 years ago

      Its yet to be seen if Franchy Cordero can play MLB ball period. He was terrible on defense last season so his glove is suspect. He is striking out at a 42.9% rate in the minors this season and 43.1% in the majors last season and the beginning of this season. I don’t believe that anyone in the Padres FO is counting on him as a starter right now.

      Reply
  14. bbatardo

    4 years ago

    Having watched Renfroe play since he has come up I think it’d be a mistake to trade him. He’s been pretty clutch with the home runs he has hit and he has improved his defense quite a bit. On base skills still are to be desired, but he slugs and slugs well.

    Reply
    • padreforlife

      4 years ago

      Mistakes are Padres middle-name

      Reply
  15. antibelt

    4 years ago

    Tony Watson and MadBum for him, if the Padres think they can make a run. Their fanbase deserves a chance to break that playoff drought.

    Reply
    • Show Me Your Tatis

      4 years ago

      Trade Renfroe to a division rival for a couple of rentals? Yeah, I’m gonna go with “No.”

      Reply
      • antibelt

        4 years ago

        A playoff beast and excellent relief pitcher can get you places in the playoffs. Not the wildest idea in the world.

        Reply
        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          What playoffs? Are you forgetting about the Dodgers and their best record in the NL? 2019 has been a big step in the right direction for SD but this isn’t their year.

        • antibelt

          4 years ago

          Who cares about the Dodgers? So you throw in the towel if you’re in contention for a playoff spot? How many times have the teams with the best record blow it in the playoffs? Two great starters is what you need in a 5 game series.

        • padreforlife

          4 years ago

          Myopic Padre fans think playoffs are happening

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          “Who cares about the Dodgers?”
          Well the Padres sure should if they are trying to realistically assess their odds of making the postseason this year!

    • Koamalu

      4 years ago

      MadBum is a FA at the end of the year. There is absolutely no reason to give up a 30 HR, .900 OPS player with 4 years of team control for 2-3 months of MadBum. Watson, a 34 year old situational lefty, has literally no value to the Padres.

      Reply
      • antibelt

        4 years ago

        Power is literally up throughout the league. Cron was released by Tampa after hitting 30 homers. His OBP will definitely drive down trade value, and there’s no way he keeps up an .600 slugging percentage.

        Reply
        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          None of that matters until you address that fact that Bumgarner is a FA until the end of the season and that SD would have no chance of keeping him.

        • antibelt

          4 years ago

          True, but making the playoffs creates additional revenue, a chance to set the bar for years to come. Having a one two punch in the playoffs is going to be tempting for some team, the Padres or likewise. And remember, Chicago gave up Frazier and three prospects for a half year of Chapman. Madison and Watson can give you a combined 2.5 war in half a season.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Chicago did not give up anyone named “Frazier” in the Chapman trade and he was the one missing piece for them. Unless Madison Bumgarner can pitch every day for the rest of the season and postseason the Padres are missing way more than just him.

        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          Chapman was condisered the missing piece on a WS co-favorite. If the SDP made that trade, they’d still have no chance for 1st. They would have to play ~ .600 the rest of the way to make the WC, and even with Mad Bum & Watson, they’d be an underdog.

          Again, if this were the RS, with a shorter window, and a better chance of making the playoffs, I’d make that trade. But the Padres, no.

  16. Koamalu

    4 years ago

    Why are we still reading asinine stuff about the Padres trading for pitchers with just one year of team control?

    Preller has said multiple times that the Padres are not making any moves unless it benefits the team long term. Every move he has made since mid 2015 was obviously about the long term.

    So why would anyone think the Padres would make a trade for Bauer or Stroman? It boggles the imagination that someone that gets paid to write would put something that absurd on paper.

    If the Padres trade a 30 HR, .900 OPS player with 4 years of team control its going to be for a top of the rotation starter with 3 or 4 years of control.

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    • Show Me Your Tatis

      4 years ago

      The Galvis trade wasn’t about the long-term.

      But yeah, it’s gonna be a “no” from me on trading Renfroe for someone who can be FA before like 2022.

      Reply
      • Koamalu

        4 years ago

        Actually, it was. The Galvis trade was about bridging the gap to Tatis. That is long term thinking. The Padres had no intention of blocking Tatis progression to the majors and that has proven to be an intelligent move.

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        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          No it isn’t. As you would say, “That is completely ludicrous.” Tatis (and the rest of the team) would not be playing any worse this year and for the future if they hadn’t made the Galvis trade. Literally anyone could have “bridged the gap” or whatever to Tatis.

        • Koamalu

          4 years ago

          What? Your statement makes literally no sense. Galvis did not play for the Padres this season. He played for them last season. But Tatis could not play for them last season.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Exactly. The Padres lost 96 games with Galvis on the roster in 2018. They could have done that without him.

        • Padres2019ha

          4 years ago

          Sorry pal but bridging the Gap is not considered the future. That’d be the present. Regardless, Preller would trade Bauer if he got him for a good price w only one year left. Problem is Bauer wants to go year to year which a small market team can’t afford

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          If you think the Padres can contend in 2020 it doesn’t really matter if he wants to go year-to-year. I worry about 2020 tho because Eric Hosmer can only play well in odd-numbered years.

        • Koamalu

          4 years ago

          I am not your pal and yes it is looking to the future. Otherwise the Padres would have been making other moves to fill in the roster in 2018. They didn’t. They knew that they were not going to contend in 2018 and Tatis was the future and they were not going to block him. So they traded for a guy for one year.

          Preller is not trading for Bauer because he has 1 year of control left. Preller has been very clear about what the team wants and that is long term control. What you are saying is that Preller has consistently been lying since last year and that the team is really all about winning in 2019. All evidence says otherwise.

        • Koamalu

          4 years ago

          Go read what Preller has said. Either he is telling the truth and has been since the beginning of last season and they are looking for long term pieces or he has been consistently lying and its all about winning in 2019.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          If the Galvis trade wasn’t a win-now move, what was it? Because what we KNOW it wasn’t, was a win-later move.

        • Koamalu

          4 years ago

          The Padres traded a guy they saw as a bullpen piece for a decent SS with one year of control.

          Galvis gave the Padres strong defense and steady play everyday last season. Exactly what the Padres needed with 18 rookies taking the mound last year.

          That was a GM looking long term knowing Tatis was coming and that a steady defensive performer at SS would help those young pitchers build confidence in 2018.

          It does not matter how many games they would have won or lost. That is short term thinking.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Lol Koamalu strikes again about how trading for a guy with one year of control is “looking long-term.”

        • Pads Fans

          4 years ago

          @Koamalu I am curious why you are arguing with guys that obviously have no clue? Do you think you can educate them in just a few paragraphs? Or that even if you can give them enough information that they should be educated that they will change their minds.

          Obviously you are correct, but that is not going to help them understand. Pretty much nothing will.

        • Koamalu

          4 years ago

          I would like to think that logic would prevail. But you may be right. You can’t fix stupid.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          I am curious why you feel the need to use multiple accounts. Especially on the same article.

        • Pads Fans

          4 years ago

          Who are you talking to?

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          You know perfectly well who I’m talking to.

        • Pads Fans

          4 years ago

          If you are talking to me, I have one account. Its more than enough.. Usually when someone makes a remark like that they are really calling themselves out for whatever they are projecting on others. Good to know that you operate like that.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          Now you’re lying but whatever.

          More to the point. If the Galvis trade was supposed to be a win-later trade, that makes it even worse. Unless you think the “memory” or whatever of Freddy Galvis at shortstop is somehow going to rally the team to win more games after he is gone it is pretty much indefensible.

        • Pads Fans

          4 years ago

          You were dropped on your head as a child weren’t you?

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          You have autism don’t you?

    • padreforlife

      4 years ago

      Preller says

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  17. padreforlife

    4 years ago

    Padre fans going back and forth with nonsense priceless

    Reply
    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      I don’t get it either. The Galvis trade looks like one low-end player for another low-end player. It has nothing to do with the future. It’s akin to the RS trading for Colton Brewer. Both teams probably thought they were trading away guys they had no intention of keeping, and hoping to get something slightly more valuable.

      If ever there was an argument over minutiae…..

      Reply
      • Show Me Your Tatis

        4 years ago

        I don’t care how overrated Enyel de los Santos is or how overrated Koamalu thinks he is. Trading him for a one-year guy was NOT a “win-later” move. Nothing about it was “win-later.” Would de los Santos have made a difference once the Padres’ window opened? Maybe not. But Galvis certainly won’t because he’s a Blue Jay now.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          It is certainly not a ‘win-later’ move, but not every move is a win-later move. You need 25 guys on the roster. Sometimes, maybe many times, this is all a move represents.

        • Show Me Your Tatis

          4 years ago

          If it wasn’t a win-now move, what was it?

  18. Pads_Fans

    4 years ago

    I’m not koamalu!
    I’m not outinleftfield either!
    Derek Norris is the biggest threat to society!
    So is Andy Green!
    Or should I say “Pinche Verde?”
    Bud Black is my hero!
    So is Chase Headley!
    The brown uni’s look like the inside of a toilet!
    The Padres should trade for this guy and “just sign him to an extension!”
    Pull your head out!
    You can count on your fingers the number of times that has happened!
    Did your mom drop you on the head when you were a child?
    UZR and DRS need 3 years of data to be accurate!
    No player ever signs with a team that traded them away!
    Giancarlo Stanton’s opt-out clause benefits the Yankees!
    The Padres have to send Miguel Diaz back to the Brewers if he doesn’t come off the DL by the end of the year!
    Wil Myers is worth more in a trade than Alex Reyes!
    Some guy I know said that this will/did happen! I have no proof, just take my word for it.
    Some guy on another site also said that this other thing will/did happen! Oh wait, that was me.
    “Say goodbye.”
    REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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  19. mhdunbar99

    4 years ago

    The ONLY reason the Padres would trade Renfro is that the current management didn’t recruit him. He should be their RF for the next 10 years. Andy Green = leave him in the lineup and leave him alone!

    Reply
    • Show Me Your Tatis

      4 years ago

      They didn’t recruit Franmil Reyes either. Signing him was one of the first things Josh Byrnes did.

      Reply
    • hockeyjohn

      4 years ago

      If they trade Renfroe it will be for a player that your team needs more. Remember if you are trying to get something good, you will have to trade something good, No one is going to give you a good or decent pitcher for Margot, Myers, Cordero, or other pieces or spare parts.

      Reply
      • Show Me Your Tatis

        4 years ago

        So not Whit Merrifield?

        Reply
        • hockeyjohn

          4 years ago

          If Kansas City makes Whit Merrifield available, they will be several teams interested. His contract, ability and flexibility will draw some definite interest.

  20. hoosierhysteria

    4 years ago

    I am tired of PADRES relievers come in and walking first batter…who then scores.

    Reply
  21. hoosierhysteria

    4 years ago

    Bring up the young relievers…we have some flame throwers

    Reply
  22. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    I’d like to see the RS get involved, though I have no idea who they might offer. ERod is too much, and I don’t see any other equivalent values. Porcello if we eat a lot of salary, and convince SD they are one #2/3 away from the playoffs?

    Reply
  23. padreforlife

    4 years ago

    Playoffs this is typical Padre fan

    Reply
  24. carlosrosette76

    4 years ago

    Remember Antony Rizzo ? they traded to the cubs and now he is a super star 1B man .. they traded Rizzo for Cashner and that traded did not pan out…. It will be another Mistake to trade Hunter Renfroe that is my take 🙂 ..

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