The first-place Yankees are aiming for a championship this year, and it seems they’re prepared to pay steep prospect prices at the July 31 trade deadline in order to increase their chances. The team has no “untouchable” players in its farm system, Ken Davidoff of the New York Post reports.
No Yankees prospect has generated more hype lately than right-hander Deivi Garcia, whom they promoted to Triple-A ball last week. The 20-year-old Garcia is now the youngest player at the minors’ highest level, Davidoff notes. Garcia’s elevation to Scranton came in response to a great season-opening performance at Double-A Trenton, where he posted a 3.00 ERA/2.18 FIP with 14.49 K/9 against 4.41 BB/9 in 10 starts and 51 innings. Although he’s just 5-foot-9, Garcia’s tremendous early season showing helped earn him a 29th-place ranking in the midseason top 50 list ESPN’s Keith Law (subscription required) just released.
General manager Brian Cashman said last week Garcia could be a factor on the Yankees’ roster down the stretch, but he wouldn’t be off limits in a deal, Davidoff suggests. The goal would be to acquire a controllable rotation piece in any swap involving Garcia, it seems. On the other hand, the Yankees “certainly wouldn’t” trade Garcia for Giants left-hander Madison Bumgarner or another rental, per Davidoff. The same obviously goes for Mets righty Zack Wheeler, as Andy Martino of SNY.tv relays, but it may be a different story for controllable fireballer Noah Syndergaard. The Yankees have shown interest in Syndergaard, reports Martino, who points out the Mets sent special assistant Omar Minaya to scout Garcia’s Triple-A debut Monday. With that said, there’s little optimism the crosstown rivals will come together on a trade this month, Martino adds on Twitter.
Meanwhile, outfielder Estevan Florial – the Yankees’ No. 1 prospect in the most recent team rankings at MLB.com, FanGraphs and Baseball America (subscription required) – would be movable “in the right deal,” Davidoff writes. Unlike Garcia, the 21-year-old Florial hasn’t enjoyed a banner 2019 season in the minors. Currently at the High-A level after fracturing his right wrist in the spring, Florial has hit .229/.282/.359 (91 wRC+) with four home runs in 142 plate appearances.
In fairness to Florial, the injury may have a role in his underwhelming production this year. Moreover, Florial entered the season as a consensus top 100 prospect, so it stands to reason he’s someone who would interest other teams in trade talks. The Yankees generally aren’t short on enticing minor leaguers, according to a rival talent evaluator who spoke with Davidoff.
“It’s a really good system,” the evaluator said. “They certainly have the pieces to be aggressive.”
They are going to need to deal top prospects to get someone decent. I think Bumgarner is the best they can do. I think he’d probably cost Domingo German and other pieces though.
The Yankees can get almost anyone, just depends on what they are willing to give up.
“The Yankees can get almost anyone, just depends on what they are willing to give up.”
You can say that about any team.
No you can’t
What team cant?
Do you even watch the Yankees? German is the best pitcher they have this year. Why would they trade 5 years of him for 2 months of Bumgardner?
Thank you! Todd76 must be high or something 🙂
It’ll be fun to watch Giants fans squirm when they see how little they get for Bumgarner. It’s two months…teams just don’t pay much for that anymore. It’s a different time.
Teams will pay, don’t kid yourself. Bum’s still 29 and has an unmatched postseason pedigree. They’re likely not going to convince the Yanks to give up Frazier, but they will get good prospects for MadBum or they can keep him and QO him.
Kinsler pirela and gettys
There we go
that pedigree is long gone.
Bumgarner is not getting a big return – they’re looking at lottery tickets. We are past the point of Beltran-Wheeler type rental deals – Teams understand cost control and values too much to let those things happen now.
I think the Giants will get a few middle prospects but the market doesn’t seem to be leaning towards top prospects for this version of Bumgarner. A rental version at that.
Remember that the Giants can keep him, QO him and get a draft pick if someone else signs him. So you can forget any trade offer that isn’t at least as good as that draft pick.
A QO free agent returns and 2nd and 5th round pick. This year is a deep draft class. Who are you trying to convince with this nonsense? Nobody wants your organizational A ball players. I really doubt Bum would waive his no trade to go to the Yanks anyhow.
It’s a deep draft class? Lmao you know that a month after the 2019 draft class?
Except the draft pick compensation is garbage since the revisions were made. The QO doesn’t promise anything. It’s 2019, not 2015.
MattyIce68 do you understand that he made his no-trade list of contenders for the leverage that he can gain off of the Giants? He can earn himself a pretty penny from them if they get a decent offer that they like.
Domingo? Have you followed anything this year? He is one of the best pitchers on the team, he is 11-2 an a 3.40 era, not a free agent till 2024 and you think he is a good trade for a rental of Madison. Dude you are crazy.
Maybe you’d like Mike Leake then if you don’t want to give up any talent?
Sorry, but you’re way off on this one. If the Yankees were willing to trade German for Bumgarner, the deal would have been done a month or 2 ago. ZERO chance the Yankees give up German for 2 months of a past-his-prime Bumgarner.
But why trade a better pitcher, for a worse pitcher, and give up 4 years of control? Obviously Madbum > Leake, but that doesn’t answer the question of why make a trade that offers scant benefit, even in the short-term.
If top prospects will only net someone “decent” then i’d hope the Yankees hold onto those prospects.
(i know others have already made the point but theres no way theyre simply giving up German for Bum)
German is pitching better then BumG. Why would they do that? Lol
Mad Bum isn’t returning at top 75 prospect or a quality major leaguer.
BUMGARNER won’t cost German. German already pitching Better than Bum. Makes no sense
You do realize German is t a prospect anymore? He’s their best pitcher. Why would they hurt their. Urgent rotation to add to their rotation. It’s like taking 1step coward only to take 2 steps back. Stop asking for German in trades.
Bumgarner is below-average with a .334 xwOBA. German has a .302 xwOBA. So why trade that.
Lol
They would both look great in Old English D in April 2021… for Boyd.
No Untouchables In Yankees System.
– “Hey can we have Frazier. ?”
NO. !!!!!
Just because there are no untouchables, doesn’t mean they will just trade any prospect for only two months of a player.
Frazier for bumgarner make it happen win for both sides
Frazier playing the outfield in Oracle Field. oh the comedy of errors…
He’ll learn the field. Look who’s out there now…
Maybe they can retune his attitude as well.
Since they have been rolling with a combo of Slater, Dickerson, Pillar, and Yaztremski the outfield has been much better of late.
That’s not a fair trade for the Yankees.
Did you not read he’s not available for rentals? lol some people are unreal
Does that mean Jasson Dominguez is up for grabs?
Is there any kind of grace period for trading intl signees? Obviously you can’t trade draft picks in the same year they’re drafted but I’m not sure on intl signees. I would imagine they can acquire just about any starter they’d like to without his inclusion though.
He’s the player I’d want to headline a syndergaard trade not Garcia. Yankees can keep him
I thought I saw the Fangraphs guys say he couldn’t be moved until after the World Series
I wouldn’t trade for a underperforming and always injured SP like Noah
He’s on track for another 150IP season, his fourth in five years. Very few pitchers get to 200IP now. I believe last year it was 13 pitchers got to 200IP or more.
He should thrive with a new club, as anywhere is better than the current dumpster fire playing at CiticField.
Sure, but you don’t trade top prospects for 150 IP of 4.50 ERA ball. He obviously has ceiling and will draw a return better than most with those numbers, but teams are not going to pay the price as if he had already turned it around.
Funny how syndergaard isn’t worth jack to Yankee fans after one mediocre half of a season but severino is an “ace”. Syndergaard has been superior to him
I’m not a Yankees or Mets fan. What I said stands
No, j2 prospects are allowed to be traded until after the World Series is over
Frazier for Bumgarner win for both sides just make it happen
lol
Bauer for Frazier and Deivi Garcia
I wouldn’t be opposed to this but I don’t think Bauer is going to be available now that the Indians are playing well
Frazier probably isn’t going back to the Indians
I believe the Indians will Trade Bauer most likely would take
Deivi Garcia , Clint Frazier and Anthony Garcia .
the reason. I believe they will deal him is the owners The Dolan’s are not going to pay Bauer $20 mil next season they just are not going to do it.
please Bieber is solid and Plesac is going to be Called back up.
Salazar will be activated in the next couple of weeks along with Carassco who is near a rehab assignment.
Kluber has been long tossing the last 2 weeks without issue he may start a rehab soon.
The Indians need to deal with major offensive production issue and until they do they will never be able to hang with the big dogs in a 5 or 7 game playoff season .
And I’m a realistic Indians fan.
also do not be shocked if they send Brad Hand to the Dodgers for a package that includes Lux , and others with Kipnis in his last year here.
sorry for the long response
That’s too big a package for Bauer. He’s got only one year left, and that’s at $20M. If the Indians picked up 60-70% of the option, I could see that. But Frazier AND Deivi AND Garcia? No. YTPS.
Bauer is definitely being traded due to money owed. Either now or in offseason.
Yankees have been in the world series every decade since the ’20’s. But not the 2010’s. This is their last shot. ’80’s are the only decade they didn’t WIN a World Series.
Time is running out.
Garcia for bumgarner
I don’t believe they’d give Deivi up for Smith and Bumgarner. Certainly not Bumgarner alone.
Yankees need to do exactly that if they’re truly serious about a World Series in 2019.
Well, no. I’m positive they could do it with other players in their system. If they’d prefer to give up Florial as the headliner that’d certainly be a haul for 2 rentals. They don’t have to trade Deivi at all. Certainly not for 2 rentals
Mad Bum isn’t that good anymore. Too much
Yeah I don’t know about Florial’s perceived value. He has tremendous upside but he’s a tough value for me. I was just using that as an illustration of why Deivi did not need to be included. When Pope says stuff like that’s “exactly what they need to do” when talking about giving up Deivi. That’s just not factual. I could certainly see a scenario where the Yankees get Bum/Smith w/o Florial or Deivi.
That scenario would require a package of prospects going back though. Depending on the Yankees outlook on Florial I could see him being valued over a package of their better prospects.
Bum and Smith if that wasn’t clear.
I don’t think you could even get Smith alone for Florial, Maybe his slow start is injury-related, but he still has a 49/10 K/W, and at age 21.233, in A+, he isn’t quite a kid.
Smith is under control for 3 months. I’m positive they could get him for Florial. The Giants are so desperately thin for OF’ers w upside. What do you think Smith is bringing back? Florial is a top 100 prospect almost universally. The Brewers are debating on whether to give up an inferior prospect, in Dubon for him.
Rental relievers aren’t going to draw huge hauls. If Smith brings back a top 100 prospect it’s someone just barely inside the top 100
Relievers bring back huge hauls all the time. Did you forget about Chapman or miller. No offense Ben but you tend to overvalue prospects way too much. They don’t have as much value as established ML players
But that is Florial by most accounts. I think you may be overvaluing him a bit here. He’s high variance like Mateo. Currently not trending in the right direction though. They may prefer holding him in case he regains more of that steam but that’s anyone’s guess. I think he it’s highly likely he goes in a Bumgarner/Smith package. For Smith alone? Ehh, can’t really see that unless they’ve soured on Florial. We’ve heard the rumors on Smith are for a Mauricio Dubon like prospect. Florial is a bit more valuable than him at the moment.
Teams value them that way. Because they’re cheap and controllable and if even when they all don’t pan out, you need the ones that do to make room to overpay for others when you have to go to the free agent market. Those guys had wipeout stuff and huge pedigrees, along with dominant performance. No one on this year’s market is close to that value. My issue is not overvaluing prospects, it’s that this year’s deadline class doesn’t offer anything elite. And I’m not arguing only that it’s not worth it, I’m arguing that because of this it actually won’t happen.
Bishop, Ramos, Canario are all top 130 (Giants) MLB outfield prospects.. On top of that the Giants have Luciano and Bart. The Giants farm isn’t the same gutted farm from 2 years ago. I don’t think the Giants want Frazier. Ideally they would prefer Devi or more infield help.
I know you guys don’t want to part with Deivi and that’s fine. I just don’t see the Yankees and Giants being a match. Teams like Milwaukee, Minnesota, Houston, Atlanta all have better lower end top 100 talent the the Yankees. I don’t think Bum will pull a top 1o0, but all those guys just outside the top 100 in top 150 range he should definitely pull ones of those guys and that’s where I don’t see the Yanks being a match. The other teams I mentioned are loaded in that top 150 range. I see both Bum and Smith going to one of those other teams I mentioned because of the reasons stated.
why do yankee fans think your getting an Ace and a top notch closer in the same deal? When has this ever happened? The Yankees literally have a terrible farm system. Florial is in A ball and is doing nothing. You have a couple of interesting arms, which have huge bust potential Every single system has those guys.
Lol. From the guy who believes a 2nd round pick is more valuable than a top 100 prospect. Really hard to have a sensible conversation w somebody who has that outlook. If you want to see a terrible farm, look no further then your own backyard. The Giants farm is the definition of a thin one.
Dude, Mad Bum hasn’t been an ace for a long time
I would not worry about this guy, Ben. Definitely a big time Giants homer hoping for a miracle. But I think his problems are deeper than that. He believes 2nd round draft picks are more valuable than top 5 org prospects. Don’t see how you can have a reasonable conversation with someone who is
A.) a gigantic Giants homer
B.) believes a 2nd round pick is more valuable than most top 5 org prospects.
He wouldn’t be happy until you said Bumgarner would bring back Wander Franco. And Smith bring backs Jo Adell.
Not an ace but not as bad as y’all make him sound. By the way Yankees fans and other teams fans talk about him you’d think he has an ERA in the sixes. But he has a 3.8 ERA and FIP, 9.5 k/9 and the best k/bb rate he’s had in his career.
He’s a #3
Mattyice you’re completely correct. Only Yankee fans think they have a good farm everyone else knows it’s 3-4 deep and not much else
Go take a look at the Yankees too prospects on Fangraphs. It’s one of the deepest lists on there, although it does lack in elite talent. I’m a Cubs fan, FWIW
MadBum is not going to fetch a prospect like Garcia imo. If Garcia is traded it will be for Boyd/Stroman and possibly Ray.
I don’t think they’d give this guy up for Ray. He’s a 5 inning walk machine. I wouldn’t give Deivi up for him. I think that’s Deivi’s low end projection in the future. I’d give him up for A stroman/Giles package for sure though.
There’s no way the Yankees would trade German for Madbum.
Problem with the Yankees system is outside of Garcia and Florial nobody has much trade value. Yankee fans can throw around loasiga and Tyler wade but nobody wants 24 year olds who don’t look like they can have sustained success at the mlb level
I would take Loasiga in a trade package.
They need to get Stroman and Giles. It goes without saying that they need an ace. Do not count on Severino and Betances this year. I bet they both need operations. Chappy has lost a little bit on his heater this year, and he may walk next year, so Giles makes sense. This club is SO CLOSE this year that Cash better give up some of the farm for Stroman and Giles. Ya gotta pay the piper some time and DO NOT count on Sevy and Dellin to come back and “be as good as a trade”. Your move, Cash. I want a ring for the 2019 Yankees !
Stroman and Giles would be a great package for NYY if they can pull it off.
you obviously have no clue. the yanks system has talent at all levels.
You need veterans for the playoffs. The kids are not proven yet, with the exception of Domingo German. I would NOT include that kid in any deal. He has proven he knows what he’s doing at ML level
Yeah that’s nonsense, don’t listen to that. Mad Bum doesn’t bring half that.
“Yanks system has talent at all levels” but why are they a bottom tier farm system on every list
They’re not
And you know this how?
History of trades in major league baseball
contrary to your opinion, the Yankees have quite a few arms and interesting position players in the lower levels of their system that potentially have great value to many teams.
If your statement was correct, then the Yankees farm system would be ranked much lower than it actually is.
It is ranked low. You won’t find anywhere other than the yes network that is going to rave about the Yankees farm right now
They should go with what they have
No way. It’s time to deal. Need a controllable ace and another closer to help Chappy. Look at what just happened tonight – he blew a 2 run lead. He’s not lights out all the time anymore. It would have been great to have Giles to come in when he got the first 2 runners on tonight…
There’s not really an ace available.
Britton should have came in
But that’s not we’ve been hearing comment sections across the nation!
Last year all we heard what kind of moves will the Yankees make, but like last year Steinbrenner will not make a move. It is my bet that all we hear about what Cash or Hal are doing is just a concerted effort to make the fan base think they are going to shore up the pitching staff to keep the media and Yankee fans calm until the end of the trading deadline.
Deivi Garcia is kind of small at 5’9″.
He is probably a future bullpen piece in the big leagues..
He looks impressive is all I know…
Impressive yes, but smaller pitchers get hurt and flame out….Bullpen would be his best spot…
tell that to pedro martinez
Well, that’s a horrible argument. Let’s pick an outlier like Pedro Martinez. Most guys who are that size aren’t SP’s. Deivi could be one. But 95% of the guys who make it are not.
And roids rumors there that are probably true
Got me on that one! But, Pedro is 5’11” pushing 6’…Still on the small side for a starter..
Teams are moving away from the “too short” philosophy, particularly as there’s less focus on a downward plane/pitching at the knees.
Teams are more interested in mechanics and spin rates these days.
Most GMs would move him to the bullpen…
Stats have proven that more smaller starters than not are more prone to injuries starting…cannnot hold up for 30-35 starts per year…
Pedro is 1 in a million…that is why he is in the Hall.
Can you show me these stats?
And Marcus Stroman is 5’8”.
It’s not like you can not be a major league starting pitcher unless you’re 6’2 or taller. You can cherrypick a handful of names but that doesn’t say anything at all. At least 95% of starters in the majors are larger than that. I obviously haven’t calculated any hard stats on that but I do have a general knowledge of SP’s. I think we could all agree that most guys that size are not starters. Deivi could certainly be one. But he’s going to have his doubters until that materializes. For all the hype on the kid he’s maxed out at 75 innings in a professional career. We do not know how he will hold up w a large workload.
Everybody knows most pitchers are tall now. You’re not breaking any new ground there. And those pitchers flame out or break down as well. Every pitcher has doubters until he materializes. But it’s ridiculous to try and predict a pitcher’s future simply on height.
sabr.org/research/does-pitcher-s-height-matter
There’s an article on some of that. Likely won’t be your cup of tea if you don’t have a strong statistical background though. I found it very interesting and I’m not disagreeing with you. However being 5’9 165 is going to get you put under the gun. Particularly when you’ve maxed out at 75 innings. That’s the reality of things. I’d like to run a similar test myself on higher regarded prospects closer to the majors. But that would be a tall task and take quite some time.
that’s ridiculous. He just turned 20. He’ll have 120 by the end of the year.
Name another 20 year old in AAA that will have over 100 by years end? I’ll wait…
Not patino, not gore( he’ll be 21 in AA). Not graterol. Not luzardo.
Bro what is ridiculous? Any pitcher his size is going to be put under the microscope. He’s tossed as many innings as Grayson Rodriguez who is younger. I’m not firing shots at Deivi here. When you’re 5’9 165lbs and have demonstrated some walk issues those questions are attached to you whether you like them or not. I don’t know why you’re getting offended here.
he could pitch more they just are just being careful with his innings and there is nothing wrong with that. If they paced him normally in terms of advancement he probably wouldn’t hit the majors until late 2020 or early 2021 where is innings would be mid 100’s in 2020 high 100’s 2021. he has a fairly clean injury history. I get there isn’t much success for smaller players but there’s always exceptions . I think him being so young more than anything is huge plus. he actually models his game after Pedro and watches one of his playoff games every day before he pitches. He also has the same number 45. he reminds me of him a ton except not as much control.
You can point to stroman but who else is doing it at that size. Not every 5’7 2b is going to be altuve
Frasier, Garcia, Florial and another prospect might get you Matthew Boyd for 3 1/2 years….
Important to have team control at reasonable price.
Jordan Montgomery is still hurting from surgery and could be out until mid season next year…
Lol not trading that much for oil can one hit Boyd
Boyd has had 2 good months in his entire career and has been mediocre to bad for the last 6 weeks, why people want him is beyond me…
Boyd literally will not get you a single one of those guys.
Well, maybe Frazier.
No chance…Frazier is a DH with injury problems..
Agreed. And Boyd is number 3 if you consider his performance and peripherals. I’m not a Yankees fan. And I like the upside of Boyd. But his lack of a track record means he won’t bring a big return.
Seriously Boyd has been going down hill for a few months his ERA is ballooning and has a big home run problem in a huge Tiger home field
What if Greene is added?
Nope. You’re not going to get a better top piece for adding a closer in any trade. You’re going to add a 45 on the back end of the trade. I see this all the time but teams don’t do this.
Greene has a lot of value on his own…They might get a better return trading Greene and Boyd separately…
You’re right about this. But Greene won’t bring a top 100 guy.
If Yankees are going “all in” then while they are looking at Stroman/Giles
they are probably also looking at Boyd /Greene…
Time will tell if Cashman has the guts to stand up to Hal and tell him he HAS to spend some money like his father did. This is their year, if they spend some $$$…
Cash needs to finally “go for it”…
If the Yankees mess around and act like beancounters like the Dodgers
and do not make the right deals, then they will not win a WS just like the problems the Dodgers are having..
its not the money. Cashman has 230 mil to build a team (i think we have teh 3rd largest payroll and aren’t that far off from #1).
It’s cash’s inability to build a pitching staff that matters. For example. he spent 35 mil this year on gardy, cc and Happless (who we have for 2 more years!), when he could have had corbin for 23 mil! don’t forget he also spends more on the pen annually than some teams spend on the entire roster!
this issue is not budget its the vastly overrated Cashman,
The bull pen is where it gets outrageous. Yes the Yankees have a hands down top 3 pen in the game but no other team in the league can spend closer money for set up men like the Yankees. Their pen cost more than the Rays roster
That’s my point! It’s not the money but his inability to put together a pitching staff and starters in particular.
If only he signed scherzer, pulled the trigger and paid the price for sale cole or Verlander. Yada yada yada
Cash really is beyond overrated
I don’t understand that.
If money was the problem, then non tendering CC and Happ could have been options to get Dallas Keichel and Patrick Corbin as FAs..
JA Happ and CC would not have been my 1st and 2nd choices.
Florial is a massively overrated prospect. He’s a AAAA player at best.
Based on what?
it’s hard to say, you have to wait until he’s not hurt. Having 2 wrist i juries is tough. He came back well from the first. He just needs to heal. I could easily see him running to AAA and a cup of coffee in the show in 2020
He strikes out a lot….His BA is low compared to top can’t miss prospects….Keith Law, respected baseball talent evaluator left him off his Top 100 prospects”. this year…
Who knows, he could be a star, or medicore or a bust…
Time will tell..
2016 and 2018 he hit something like .229?!
His power is on the low side?!
Some teams may not want this guy…
An alleged 5 tool player who doesn’t hit for average power or steal bases. If he wasn’t wearing a Yankees cap he wouldn’t be on any top 100 lists by now. Not to mention he’s yet to get passed A ball what makes people think he’ll be mlb ready by next year
Anything can happen, but I’d prefer Casas or Dalbec at this point, by a fair margin, and they aren’t yet top-100.
Or, for a more apples-to-apples comparison, Jarren Duran. Duran is one year older than Florial. His A+ OPS is .998, while Florial’s A+ OPS is .706. Duran with a 44/23 K/W against Florial’s 163/62.
It’s always a crap shoot to compare, and I am hopeful that Duran eventually replaces JBJ, but if I saw MadBum & Smith straight-up for Duran, I’d laugh all the way to the bank.
Wow so hes a 5 A player? Is that a high school division or some super league after the MLB?
Clint Frazier for Trevor Richards and Jarlin Garcia. Who says no?
I’d happily take Frazier and Garcia for Minor.
Of course you would but not happening
Minor and Boyd are going to be major letdowns for their acquiring teams. Minor has just as good a shot at being below league avg as good next year. Boyd has never been good until this year, and is already falling apart.
Boyd is 28-42 for his career with an ERA+92 and 4.84 ERA
He had a good first half, and is starting to regress to his mean. 3.95 ERA, 6-7 in a piss poor division playing in games that don’t matter. By the end of the year his ERA+ will be right around 95-100 and he probably gets worn out and doesn’t pitch more than 175 innings.
Again, your analysis of Boyd is flawed according to Scouts and analytical reports that I have seen…
Why do a dozen teams want Boyd if he is so bad?!
…
Because they think they can get value… a #3, for a #3 price, with some upside for more.
Ben even 3.5 years of a #3 is going to net you Estevan Florial. He’s already slipped off multiple evaluators top 100 list. They simply won’t trade him if they can’t get anything decent. I think it’s a distinct possibility they do not but I’d trade Florial for him 10/10 timeS.
False! Because extensive analytic reports say that Boyd is vastly undervalued and his stats would be much better on a contending team with good defense, a good bullpen and an offense that scores runs..
Boyd has changed his mechanics and pitch selections on his 2 seam and 4 seam fastballs. Boyd is more effectively using his unhittable slider and his very good changeup…
Boyd leads the AL in strikeouts to walk ratios and is among the top 5 in most measureable categories.
Boyd’s ERA will go down a point or point in a half on a loaded team like the Astros, Braves, Dodgers, Yankees etc….
that also has a good bullpen to back him up.
It will not all be on Boyd on one of those teams..
Sabermetrics reports say Boyd’s changes and performance are sustainable long term…
What do sabermetrics say about Homeruns? Because you cannot field a homer in any park. I’m a Boyd believer for the most part but let’s not act like the guy is an automatic #2 when he goes to a contending team here. There are legitimate concerns.
OK first off Bomgardner refusing to waive his no trade would never happen it has been well documented over the last couple years he would waive his no trade to go to the Yankees. Second off if you think a second and afifth is better than what the Yankees have in their minor-league system you are just a Yankee hater and absolutely delusional and need to drop a crack pipe.
your top 4 guys were all international signees. Any team with $200,000 can snag a bunch of those guys.
You can literally draft a polished college bat in round 2. Most of the guys you all reference were taken in the 4th or 5th round.
Bum literally listed the Yankees in his no-trade list. Would he wanna go pitch in your softball stadium and shave his bear and cut his hair? Maybe, but I sure wouldn’t get my heart set on it.
You also got two letters in his name wrong. Take a hike ya jabroni
Yankees system is bottom 10 you’re the delusional one
Where do you get this from??? Most sites have the Yankees at least at the midpoint or better
blogs.fangraphs.com/pre-draft-farm-system-rankings…
Fangraphs pre-draft had them at 25. Which is the absolute floor for that system. FG’s valuations place little value on any 45 or 40+ guys. They have tons of those high variance guys down there. They do lack top tier impact prospects other than potentially Deivi or Florial. They’re also not as high as others on Florial and have him on the periphery of the top 100. Any prospect valuation also doesn’t consider Clint Frazier who would likely be a 50 FV if he were still a prospect at this point.
Theyve obviously since had the draft and the INTL signing period. Jasson Dominguez alone probably shoots them up from 25 to 20 considering how close the valuations of those teams prospects were. Bleacher Report has them also around 20. The rankings really isn’t all that important because they have the pieces to get players. This isn’t the Sox farm system which lacks the prospect quality and depth to go get a package like Stroman and Smith.
blogs.fangraphs.com/pre-draft-farm-system-rankings…
If is not for Degrom I wouldn’t trade Garcia. Noah is always injured. Bumgarner won’t even get you a top 100 prospect, maybe with luck. Boyd? How many years of elite he has? Schezwr is not getting traded and the cost in prospects and salary would be too much. Knowing the Yanks, they get another elite reliever on the cheap and just shortened the game.
Bum is having a better season than darkish when he got traded and he brought back a top 100 prospect. He’ll get a top 100, just not a very good one. Probably 75 and lower
You are over valuing Yankees prospects and undervaluing available talent..
That happens a lot with Yankees fans and fans of other teams…
Remember all the “can’t miss” Yankees prospects traded to the A’s for
Sonny Grey?!
I don’t think even one of them is in the majors and producing,.,
I’m not sure who said these guys were “can’t miss.” Jorge Mateo? He’s been high variance from the start
Dustin Fowler, Jorge Mateo, James Kaprelian
All among the top rated Yankees prospects at the time.
All have fizzled so far with the A’s.
All have been demoted back to the minor leagues.
All are not good enough to play in the majors on the A’s in a pennant race..
And what is the point of that statement? Mark Appel,Franklin Perez, Daz Cameron, and Brett Phillips all are not good enough to play for contending teams. What does that have to do with Kyle Tucker?
That’s a mirror image of what you just said. Any prospect the Yankees or any team has traded in the past has 0 correlation to the performance of a future prospect they trade. Don’t say stupid things please.
Of course you missed by point/
Insults just detract from your statements and reflect badly on you.
Point was and is Yankees prospects are often over hyped and do not live up to that hype…
Prospects are oftentimes like lottery tickets.
That is why multiple prospects must be offered for established talent.
Some prospects make it, some wash out.
Many of the over hyped Yankees prospects have “washed out” that is a proven fact..
The cost isn’t for 2 months of a rental, it’s for a better shot at a world series. Keep your prospects while the red Sox keep winning.id rather the Giants give bum to the red Sox for Penny’s on the dollar than to send him to NY where every one of you fans are clear about not wanting him.
There is no reason for the yanks to acquire anyone other than a “#1 without questions”. anyone akin to his other recent mid years acquisitions like Garcia, Lynn and happless is not needed or wanted.
I agree 100%. They have a roster full of #2/#3 SPs. This is the same problem they had last year. There are plenty of guys that will help you win 100 games, but they will be outmatched in the playoffs by guys like Verlander & Cole.
And they should win the division easily, so a slight upgrade from Happ, for example, to Madbum, doesn’t add that much value.
They need someone like Syndergaard or DeGrom. I love good farms, and wish the RS were higher, but there comes a time when you have use those assets.
It’s been a trend for years Yankees cannot get a #1 all they do is take chances on other teams junk.
It’s an exciting time to be a Yankee fan :).
Florial is allergic to contact….overblown hype
If Noah is going to be traded it won’t just be Garcia alone. If I was Mets, I would want Garcia, Abreu and at least 2 other prospects ETA 2022 that is minimum for Thor. I think this trade may happen indeed. Mets must look at 2022 or so and rebuild to that year. A lot of Yankees prospects overhyped a lot just saying. If Twins give there 2 best prospects than Mets have to pull trigger.
Mets can get a better package from another team even if the Yankees offer their top 3 plus more
No one is giving their 2 best prospects for Thor. He’ll be traded for some kind of combination of his current year performance and the odds he gets back to how he was. I could see the Garcia, Abreu and two others providing those guys are lower level upside types that are not top 200. That’s about right.
No one is giving their 2 best prospects for Thor.
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Pretty sure the RS would. I’m petty high on Dalbec and Casas, and we badly need someone at 1st. But I’d personally drive those two to Queens in exchange for Syndergaard.
For all the injury talk, he missed most of one season, and part of a second season. Ignoring the injured season, he’s had 30 GS, 25 GS, and projects to 31 GS this year. The injury threat is pretty overstated. His career FIP is 2.87, and a career .629 pitcher. I’d liken him to Strasburg, but without the contract.
I think the Yankee fans are insane if they don’t want him.
Badly need someone at first? Have you not watched a game all year
Moreland & Pearce? I assume you are maybe referring to Chavis. But I see him being our long-term 2B solution. There is no reason to put his bat at 1st, where it becomes pedestrian, when you can put his bat at 2nd.