Now that the offseason has begun, we’re likely in for several weeks of rumors centering on longtime Giants left-hander and current free agent Madison Bumgarner. Let’s get the ball rolling in earnest: Atlanta has “made Bumgarner a priority and planned to quickly communicate that to the left-hander,” Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports California reports. If Bumgarner doesn’t re-sign with the Giants, the Braves are the front-runners for his services, according to Pavlovic.
For now, Bumgarner has until Nov. 14 to decide whether to accept the $17.8MM qualifying offer the Giants gave him earlier this week. But rejecting it looks like a formality for the 30-year-old Bumgarner, who MLBTR projects will land a four-year, $72MM contract on the open market. Whether the numbers are exact remains to be seen, but Bumgarner’s surely in line for a substantial payday, so the main question is whether San Francisco will be the team that hands it to him.
The Giants are the lone club Bumgarner has known since they selected him 10th overall in the 2007 draft. Although he has since turned into a decorated hurler who has helped the Giants to three championships, there hasn’t been any indication that the team has seriously pursued a contract extension. The Giants did elect against selling off Bumgarner prior to the July 31 trade deadline, but it’s possible they would have gone another way had it not been for an improbable midsummer surge. The team ultimately faded after its torrid July stretch, finishing 77-85, and now it could lose Bumgarner for nothing more than draft-pick compensation if he rejects its QO and heads elsewhere.
In the event Bumgarner does leave the Giants, Atlanta looks like a reasonable fit on paper for the North Carolina native. With Dallas Keuchel now on the free-agent market, the Braves are known to be looking for at least one capable veteran starter to complement Mike Soroka, Max Fried and Mike Foltynewicz. And Bumgarner, unlike Gerrit Cole or Stephen Strasburg (the top two starters available), wouldn’t cost a bank-breaking amount or force the Braves to make an extraordinarily long-term commitment. Of course, there’s an obvious reason for that: Bumgarner, despite his past accomplishments, isn’t nearly as good as Cole or Strasburg at this point. While he was a front-line starter during his younger days, Bumgarner now looks more like a quality mid-rotation arm.
Bumgarner’s on the market fresh off a 207 2/3-inning season (his seventh year of 200-plus frames) in which he pitched to a matching 3.90 ERA/FIP with 8.8 K/9, 1.86 BB/9 and a career-low 35.8 percent groundball rate. For the most part, those numbers look closer to good than spectacular, though they’d still be welcome in just about anyone’s rotation – including the Braves’.
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Let me enjoy the notion that the Braves will finally make a move I want them to make…because chances are like every year, they end up walking away with an excuse and leaving me disappointed. I expect no different this year.
Yes I agree buddy, this is the happiest I’ve been about a braves rumor in a very long time. Now they need to get either grandal and Donaldson or rendon so they can have power behind freeman. If Markakis plays he needs to bat 7th
If you wanna whine about politics take it somewhere else Nancy otherwise..STFU
Catwoman killed Bane, dude.
Scumbag comment of the day
They’ll dodge a bullet if they don’t get him. Wouldn’t you rather have Zach Wheeler?
wheeler had a bum shoulder last year. id be scared to death of him
He’s overrated
Irony: someone who is excited to get Bumgarner says Wheeler is overrated.
Im shocked how many Braves fans think Wheeler is a better option. Hes constantly hurt, has shoulder issues, and hasn’t often gotten good results despite elite velocity.
Even if hes healthy hes not likely to be better than Bum. Bum has been dealing with fluke injuries for a couple years, and hasn’t been on a good team.
He plays up to the playoffs, and coming to a town near his home, where he wants to be allegedly, and to a young contender could easily motivate a turn around.
I mean we cant afford a higher upside pitcher. 17.5 for 4 for a guy like him is better than spending similar money on Keuchel whos basically the same guy results wise, only with way less upside.
Or to spend the same money on Coles whos almost 40 and one tweaked groin away from retirement? Or Ordrozzi who looks to be flukey and unproven by most mlb evaluators but will still get paid because of the timing of his one good season?
If I see reddit say “Nope, might as well get Straus or Cole hes an overpay” without anyone calling them on it, or pointing out we aren’t one of the few teams in the league carrying a $35 M a yr player Im just going to assume most fans theres a difference in OOTP sims and real life.
Wheeler has never done anything but throw hard, get injured and post eras around 4. Can you really act like Wheeler s isn’t a guy people have multiple legit arguments against considering he may get paid for multiple years, much more than anyone else with his production, or injury problems? You know how shoulder problems end up right?
Its about as ironic as a flat earther calling people dumb for being globehead sheeple.
Braves fans who think Wheeler is somehow a great pitcher are the same people who think Teheran is a quality pitcher.
I still believe that Bumgarner will be back with the Giants next season. If he does leave San Francisco he will probably play for the Phillies next year.
I hope you’re right and he goes to the Phillies
At this stage of his career how much better is Baumgarner really than the recently released Teheran? I mean no doubt he’s better but it just seems odd to decline an eminently affordable option on a guy who posted a 3.80 ERA last season to go out and pursue a guy with a 3.90 ERA at WAY more $ – don’t get me wrong Bumgarner’s the better pitcher but is he a $60Million better pitcher?
Yes
What “we” said when Arietta was inked.
The Braves need some starters and we all know they won’t go after Cole/stras for obvious reasons. He is no longer the dominant pitcher he was but can still be a solid mid rotation piece which would still leave the Braves needing a frontline starter.
The braves could use a true ace, but def don’t NEED one. Folty fried and soroka all have 1/2 upside. Not to mention Ian anderson and Kyle Wright have Ace upside as well.
They’re competing now so if they’re going to spend big, spend on cole or Strasbourg, not bumgarner. The first two are closer to true veteran aces that may sustain for 3-5 years.
Mad bum could be that, but has also shown signs of regression recently.
Either way the Braves are in a great place
Yes, they need one. Not sure why anyone is on the fence about this. Were you not watching the playoffs? Anyone trust Folty twice in a series? While he may have 1-2 upside, he stays at 4 most of the time and even lower when he pouts (hence the demotion). MadBum is not 1/2 anymore and has a lot of miles on that arm. Buyer beware.
Bum is 10x better than Teheran. Teheran is pure garbage. Always was.
As for Faulty, we have watched back to back years where Faulty proved he was not reliable. Anybody who says otherwise is delusional. Fried is not reliable either.
Ideally, going after both Bumgarner and Wheeler would be awesome but the Braves don’t care about winning the WS so who knows. Maybe a Miley or equivalent garbage.
Soroka has that potential but Folty is too much of a head case. After last year’s playoffs and this season getting sent down and that game 5 meltdown. I wouldn’t have any faith whatsoever in Folty long-term.
I agree. MadBum is light years ahead of Julio. People that look at Julio’s ERA alone don’t really understand pitching in baseball. Julio’s ERA is likely to be significantly higher than MadBums next year even though MadBum will probably pitch 40 more innings than Teheran.
IMO they do need a frontline starter. Folty won’t be on team much longer if continues to be Jekyll/Hyde. Fried is a 3 at best. Soroka is good but not a number1 and I would prefer him not to have to face every team’s best pitcher. Wright has yet to show he can even throw strikes on a consistent basis and Anderson has his own issues so far. An ace would push everyone back where they should be making the rotation strong. Upside only means something if it is achieved.
Reality is if it was 2017 (and assuming Cole was this good in 2017 and a free agent), the Braves would have argued they were not ready to spend big yet. Looking at the reality today, the Braves are ready to spend (or at least should be), yet they are still not spending. Point is, the Braves don’t care about winning a WS because they make money either way and they will all carry on living their luxurious lives with zero ramifications of losing.
When the Braves sign Bum you’ll wind up as salty about him as anyone else.
My God, another psycho analyst on MLBTR. This place has the most overqualified posters I’ve seen anywhere. HOF ballplayers, MD’s, DPT’s, and the greatest GM’s in sports.
What do you think internet comment sections are?
soroka is absolutely a number 1 hahaha I wouldnt rely on him there now because of his age and lack of time in the bigs, but he is a number 1
That “game 5 meltdown” was a direct result of the defense not performing and making easy plays. St Louis gets 1 run at the most if McCann catches an easy foul tip for strike 3 and Freeman fields the most basic of ground balls.
I don’t know, common sense discussion. Certainly not this nonsense.
“Teheran is pure garbage. Always has been.”
2014 – 2.89 ERA, 123 ERA+, 3.49 FIP, 33 games started, and 221 IP
An ERA of 3.21 or under in 3 seasons – 93 starts those years.
An ERA+ of at least 117 in 4 seasons.
WHIP of 1..174 or less in 3 seasons.
A career 3.67 ERA, 110 ERA+, over 1,360 IP and 226 games started.
“Braves don’t care about winning the WS so who knows”
The Braves added Shawn Greene, Mike Melancon and Chris Martin at the 2019 deadline.
Exactly and those are the scenarios where Folty implodes instead of buckling down and getting thru it
Mentally soft
Bum 2.8 WAR, Tehran 2.4 WAR, the numbers don’t seem to agree.
Thats a great point. Mad Bum has very pedestrian numbers. Is he really an upgrade over Teheran for the price tag? Mad bum also bottom 5 (for SPs) in hard hit ball rate. Guy isnt missing bats anymore.
He was demoted because he missed time at the start of the year and needed to regain feel for his off-speed pitches.
Where each pitches will be big towards that. If Teheran lands in TOR where the ball flies, that ERA might finally drop towards FIP that he continues to defy.
Wright does not have an ace upside. Anderson is trending that way, Wright will be traded in 2020 or 2021.
Braves DO need a TOR #1. Honestly, they should go after Stras, and pair him w/ MadBum. Or another complimentary piece.
Another absolutely disappointing season and another offseason of fans wondering if we need an ace or two to get over the hump of first round exits lol… Wake up, this team is far too young and streaky on the mound and at the plate, needs stability. Doesnt help when your star first and 3rd basemen don’t show up either.
Scherzer, Strasburg, rendon, and Soto carried that team to a WS and thats what it takes.
Prove it statistically that Bumgarner is STILL 10x better because when I look at their production, they look pretty similar to me.
That perfectly describes the Cubs for 50 to 60 years prior to the hiring of John Madden.
The Cubs hired a football coach to manage their baseball team? When did this happen?
I’m a Cardinals fan and maybe the Braves were dealing with injuries or these guys you speak of weren’t on top of their game but you needed an ace big time. With one we would not have won. The Braves look like a pretty safe bet to make the playoffs(although everyone in the East seems to be pushing) they need to add an arm that can help them win playoff series. It should be Cole for a couple reasons. He’s the best and the kind of guy who can win those key playoff games. Signing him also means the other NL East teams can’t. If they sit on their thumbs 2020 will likely look a lot like 2019.
A hard hit ball doesn’t mean anything if it’s an out.
I don’t disagree with you, but we needed an average bullpen and that series would have been one. WSH became dominant when they horrid bullpen was stabilized when Doolittle did something in setup and Hudson was consistent. Between Melancon’s inconsistencies, Martin injured and Greene shaky, ATL didn’t have a prayer even we had our Strasburg.
Teheran is not garbage, you won’t find a better #4-5 starter as durable as he is. Bumgarner is declining and has 1 or 2 productive years. The problem is that he’ll want 4 or 5 years.
Ryan C? Is that you?
Funny how to only got one of the 3 bullpen trade pieces right. Who is Shawn Greene and Mike Melancon? Its Shane and Mark.
LOL. You just need to get a hotel room and send Bum a love poem. Your love affair with that man is beyond creepy at this point.
Bum’s field-adjusted ERA’s are not even SP3 worthy on a true contender. The ONLY thing Bum has at this stage is a playoff resume that might make one think he could pull a Jack Morris and carry a team. I will straight up give you that he has that and I would not mind seeing it on a team that has always opted for the ‘long grind of the season’ pitcher over the ‘dominant october’ pitcher type. I would love to see Bum as a Brave, but man, you need to throttle back.
If Braves get MadBum, I am buying tickets to his every start against Soto and the Nationals. That will be fun.
Signs point to passing. But, it’s not my money
I agree with you. I think people still think of Bum as that dominant World Series pitcher from years ago, however I see a pitcher declining that is never going to be that same guy again. Personally I hope my favorite team passes
He’s def not that madbum, but he can also eat innings. These guys can barely make 5 sometimes (that’s on Snit as well) and the bullpen is gassed by May 31st.
A combination of Snit doing better and starters that can go 7+ will really help.
Bum doesn’t walk near the batters that Julio does and has the ability to pitch deep into games unlike Julio. You have 1 game, you going with Julio or Bum? Exactly.
Teheran has a lower ERA and allows less home runs in a ballpark that is muuuuuuuch more hitter friendly. Who would I start? Depends on the match up I guess.
Exactly! Unless they think he has something to help his future teammates with or believe he has post season pixie dust, there is no reason to get him. He’ll just do his usual chip on his shoulder screaming as he gets worse than last year.
Those postseason numbers look nice and everyone has said Strasburg is over rated but he absolutely dominates the postseason. I would take mad bum and his 3.90 ERA any day over Julio plus that postseason experience will help so much. Our guys got some postseason experience this year and adding mad bum to the mix could help out quite a bit. A full season of Shane Greene and mark melancon is going to be nice as well. I wouldn’t mind adding Chris Martin to the pen as well as another quality bullpen arm. This braves team could look really good on paper let’s help that translates to post season wins
I thought he was guaranteed to stay in SF?
He can’t hunt or fish there after the game, and Hunter Pence tried getting him to use electric scooters, but “Bum” is a dirtbike kind of fellow.
Can’t fish after the games ? You obviously have never been to the Bay Area.
Lol can’t hunt or fish in California
SF is in the Gerrit Cole race
Lol
Giants fans all kinds of butt hurt because Bumgarner wants out of Frisco
Article came out yesterday stating that while publicly, Bumgarner said he was open to resigning, Privately he’s been counting the days till free agency contemplating possible landing spots all last season. Also noted is that he’s pissed the Giants extended Crawford, Belt , Posey but not him. He’s GONE
I dont suppose you can post a source for that?
Lol , one of the articles is linked at the top of this page / MLBTR post
I’d take bum over stras anyday
Name checks out
I can see it now: ‘No Fun MadBum’ and Acuña are going to be besties.
Yes. This should be fun.
Yes I agree buddy, this is the happiest I’ve been about a braves rumor in a very long time. Now they need to get either grandal and Donaldson or rendon so they can have power behind freeman. If Markakis plays he needs to bat 7th
Braves aren’t gonna make this move at the end of the day. They just won’t. If we are lucky management will spend on 1 SP a modest amount, then the 5th spot will be filled in house… calling it now. Don’t be surprised if Tehran is on the market for a cheaper deal later this offseason and he is the 1 guy we go get
It’s a tired song you keep singing. Seriously. Find a new tune.
AA is in charge now he made some moves at the deadline that nobody saw we got arguably the best bullpen arm available at the deadline at the time
It’d be great to land another good starter (one better than Teheran) while also keeping Keuchel.
Blech. No on Keuchel
Keuchel did nothing for Atlanta. His postseason was pathetic.
So if you like Keuchel walk and let Teheran walk, then who’s your rotation? Even Bumgarner, that’s only four. Move Newcomb back to the rotation and weaken an already shaky bullpen? Through in another young gun to go with two others (plus the shaky Folty)?
We need a top line catcher, guys like McCann do not come along every day, and we got rid of the guy that Strasburg and Scherzer love throwing to, name Suzuki, Kurt who now has a ring, yet we kept Flowers. Oh yes, ‘he’s such a great pitch framer’ and that will help you to a World Series…….
Furthermore, Snitker erred in throwing Keuchel on three days rest at Busch Stadium when Keuchel should have thrown Game 5 at home…….That’s exactly the situation Keuchel was bought for…..
One of the big problems is Snitker. He might be a nice guy but he couldn’t manage an actual game if you held a gun on him.
McCann is/was a top-line catcher?
I guess among his peers he was above average, but McCann fits nicely on my list of the most overrated Braves of the past 15-20 years.
As for Zuk, he was a great player and it was disappointing they got rid of him last offseason, but it would not have made a difference this year anyway. As I’ve been saying all year, the Nats are better than the Braves and although the Braves did manage to hang on to the division title, they were lucky the Nats started the season terribly. Regardless, the Nats won because of their starting pitching. Zuk complimented their team better than with the Braves. The Braves have major holes to fill this off season and as i said before, I would not be surprised if they stay cheap and watch themselves fall to 4th place next season.
As for Snit, one major fault in the tradition of the Braves is the “Braves way.” They keep hiring the brass internally and keep failing. Speaking of overrated, Cox is on my list as well.
Yes agreed. The nice guy manager that gets out managed in the post season is a dead horse that the Braves continue to beat. Time for a change.
They have the change. The right guy is standing at the foul side of third base. Too bad Freeman and the boys love Snit too much. This is their detriment.
I’d love to see Washington get a shot.
So you think Zuk is great but McCann is overrated? That’s asinine. Smoltz loved throwing to McCann, you know, that HOF pitcher…
Well, pitch framing CAN help. The Nationals didn’t win the WS bc of Kurt. that’s for sure.
2021 at the earliest, 2022 is when the farm system will churn out the Catcher of the future for Atlanta. So, 1-2 year deal for a FA Catcher to pair w/ Flowers is the SMART move.
Sometimes, I think fans only think about 1 year at a time. In the business of baseball, you can’t do that. What you do today/this year, has an effect on the following years.
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You obviously didn’t watch when Suzuki hit a probable lock for the HOF out of the park in a clutch moment, and no one said ‘they won because of Kurt Suzuki’, but he contributed all the way along during the year and in the post season. The game was in the balance when Suzuki hit THAT home run. Furthermore, what were you watching? Pitch framing helps does it? Tell me about Chirinos, a guy who has high marks for pitch framing how that helped Cole or Verlander when they went down 0-2. There were a number of calls at the top of the zone and on the corners that they did not get even when they were ‘framed’, but hey, lets talk about ‘pitch framing value’. Sometimes I think some ‘fans’ wear their rose coloured glasses too much, and some just don’t have a clue.
Chirinos did sweep home plate with his bat in October numerous times.
Agreed I hate when the praise pitch framing. You know what else makes for great pitch framing? A pitcher that can get his own strikes
Do not want Julio back unless it’s for 2-3 million. Madbum Depends on how much he wants. They need an Ace though and that isn’t Madison. They also need a catcher and if they let Markakis play 158 games and bat 5th then they’re just idiots at this point.
Markakis gets way more hate than he deserves. Who would you rather bat 4th or 5th next year? They have literally nobody to hit behind Freeman and I hope it is not Donaldson again either.
Donaldson at least had power and drew walks (most since chipper in a season).. Markakis just hit those “professional” grounders. He is also wretched in the outfield. He is fine as a platoon guy batting 7th. The issue is that Nick is Snitker’s veteran. It’s the Cox syndrome can’t hurt the veterans feelings. It’s also hard to say who needs to bat in the 4th and 5th spot in 2020 because I don’t know who is on the team yet.
“It’s also hard to say who needs to bat in the 4th and 5th spot in 2020 because I don’t know who is on the team yet.”
You honestly expect them to fill an outfield spot with a top tier player? You are being too nice.
Marte seems like the best option for the Braves via trade but it will require the Braves to trade one of their many overrated pitching prospects. The Braves will not do that because they are inexpensive. The pitchers are not very good, but at least they are not expensive.
Dense? That’s rich coming from you, Mr. “3 year multi million dollar flyer”. The other day you called me a homer. Your comment is the epitome of Homer.
Now Tony Clarke can yell “COLLUSION” between MLBTR and Alex…….
I’ll take Mads. He would serve as a nice replacement for Dallas. He’s not a legit Ace, but with Soroka stepping up at only 21, it’s not imperative we begin the year with an Ace. It would be nice to land a legit Ace, but i’ll take Mads at what he’ll provide at his cost over what it will take to nail down Cole, Strasburg or Wheeler.
I’d rather see big dollars spent on an everyday player. If Donaldson is heading out the door, we’re gonna need some thump. We could use a power upgrade over Markakis, too. But with Waters and Pache coming up, i’m not sure we’ll get it. I think we may keep Markakis for at least one more year.
Put the bong down, they re-signed Markakis last week.
MadBum will be a Brave there was never any doubt in my mind going into the offseason
Gotta resign JD & gotta find a catcher
I think JD is getting too old to put money into. We did it for one year, it worked, let’s move on. I’m not sure Riley is ready for an everyday role and I doubt we ante up for Rendon, but i’d spend on Rendon over Donaldson, that’s for sure.
Moose will be the guy if Braves don’t bring back JD
Would prefer Braves go after Wheeler but can see the connection with MadBum
Really the questions come down to this:
1) would you rather see a donaldson-type or flip his salary into a strasburg/cole knowing you’re stuck with a couple decline years on the backend?
2) madbum gives you a few things that a wheeler or similar wont. He’s got a proven record of being able to eat innings, he can arguably help mentor the young hurlers, and, he knows how to handle the post season. That last one is kinda a big one.
Now, unfortunately, the braves may be in line for a late winter signing of a Porcello/Teheran type due to the whole “bargain” aspect, but, it is what it is.
Madbum has been around so long it’s easy to forget how (relatively) young he still is. At only 30, i wouldn’t be that uncomfortable with a 4 year deal. His agents will probably like 6.
I actually pick Houston as a favorite to try to reel him in, he seems to fit the type they bring in for a few years, work their magic.
They can have him. He is the one SP I hope Phillies stay away from.
If the Braves think they need an ace and are close to winning, why not aim higher for Cole? I get it, the Braves do not operate that way. As much as they’d be lucky to have Bumgarner, is he worth $90-100 for 5 years or more? And is that a better fit than Teheran at a 1-year for under $5-mil?
Markakis either must be so good for that clubhouse or the Braves do not trust Riley and/or Inciarte.
An option, albeit an unpopular one, stand pat this offseason and deal Freeman, Greene, Markakis, Flowers, Folty and Inciarte (if he plays OK) mid-season. That opens time to Pache and Waters in the OF, re-assess the catching prospects they have and allow arms like Wright, Anderson, Wilson, Muller etc. to audition for 2021. Also frees up cash to take a run after a Realmuto, Betts, Rizzo, Pederson, someone else.
One has made a guess Bumgarner will get around 72 for 4 yrs. That would fit Atlanta’s. bank account. Really don’t need the 4 yrs. though. Hammels says he would sign 1-year contracts. Atlanta DON’T need to start trading the players you mentioned. Markakis is steady, you know what you are going to get, don’t know why people are so set against him. YOU want to trade players in midseason when the Braves will be in 1st.
No, that’s not what I said. Not a Braves fan so I do not care what they do.
It’s the 2016 Astros situation; they cut loose some contracts and veteran players to give the top prospects time in the second half (Bregman back then). Have some money to go after guys next offseason and absolutely dominate thanks to the plethora of pitching prospects they currently have.
If the Braves are in 1st place in the NL East they should NOT take that route. As I stated, it is “an option”. That is because they have a strong system. But thanks for your assumption. Seems you care more about my opinion than you let on 🙂
I fully expected this – you have to expect both posey and bum in free agency to have some mutual interest with the braves as hometown guys
I am really expecting AA to make a move for Buster this offseason
I get MadBum isn’t what he once was as is Posey but they bring intangibles that analytics don’t account for.
Professional winners that can teach the young guys a certain bulldog mentality.
Yes you would be overpaying MadBum but you would be underpaying Fried & Soroka. The intangibles get him the contract. His presence would make those guys better moving forward.
2017-2019
Player A: 29-16 record with 118 ERA+ in 438.1 innings
Player B: 19-25 record with 115 ERA+ in 448.1 innings
Player A is Chase Anderson and Player B is Madison Bumgarner. Someone is going to regret making a huge money deal for a #3 starter like MadBum.
I don’t get this at all. It can be argued that Bumgarner isn’t much of an upgrade from Teheran.
Everybody said Verlander was done too
Maybe coming to the ballpark close to home for the team you rooted for as a kid lights a fire and he recaptures some of his past glory
I thought Verlander was cooked I admit it. I don’t know that I’d go crazy for him but he’s definitely got some serious upside. At his age you can’t write him off by any means. As always price is key but I think it’s worth a shot on some level
Wasn’t Verlander come back player of the year 2016 and in my oppinion snubbed for cy young? I don’t think anyone was thinking he was done just nobody wanted to take on that salary
I expect continued decline. Still a useful innings eater and will probably throw a gem or two over the course of 6 months. Most prospective teams/fans know what they are getting and they are going to overpay for it. Meh.
Does Madison Bumgarner still have his list of teams he does not want to play for??? At one time St. Louis was on his NO List.
don’t take it personally. players know who they would be likely to be traded to and want to leverage that for $.
They checked with the rest of the teams and determined this is their best target
It’s okay. Bum can remain with his Giants. Go ahead and talk smack about him. He is incredible — and a guy I don’t want to see anywhere else. But…if he has to go, I like Braves for him. I may have the give up on the game and team I have loved since 1985. Can’t imagine with without Madison in SF.
Yes, but I think he reorganized that list last season…
You obviously didn’t read the article link. Bumgarner is Gone
He’s been counting the days while contemplating his next team all last season. Frisco is in the beginning of a massive rebuild and they’re gonna lose a lot of games over the next few years. He wants out
there will be a free agent ban for the braves.
One knock against signing him is that he hasn’t hit since 2017.
Sorry Dudes he’s coming to the Twins. He wants to become one of the few pitchers to become World Series MVP in both leagues.
As a Giants fan, I hope Madison Bumgarner signs with the Atlanta Braves. He’s still a beast and would be a great addition to your ball club.
Even today, game 7 World Series, i’d want MadBum pitching…,,,
Have you noticed how SunTrust Park plays smaller than a lot other ballparks, hence the Braves starters elevated home stats, homeruns, ERA?
Almost all their pitchers have much better eras at home vs the road
One of you is lying
Adding MadBum would big a great pickup for ATL. Next would be signing Castellanos for LF and moving Riley to 3B.
Bumgarner for 2-4 yrs. or Hammels for 1 year. Need to find bullpen help. Don’t really see a #1 closer that can be had. We CAN-NOT go into next season with Melancon as our closer. I can see the Braves signing Arodys Vizcaino back or Rosenthal, Betances hoping they are healthy. Maybe trying to sign Hudson or Will Smith. The extra bench player will help the Braves. Having a 26 man roster. Culberson, Camargo, Cervelli, Joyce, Hamilton, Hechavarria, Duval. I can see the Braves go after Howie Kendricks or Cabrera maybe even Martin Prado.
Prado’s retiring. Pretty banged up.
If the braves signed madbum and Donaldson and filled the rest of the team with scrubs I’d be happy. Those two bring a real competitive spirit.
Melancon showed enough as closer for me to trust him and the rotation really needs to give a revolving door to the 5th spot, give those kids some hope.
I don’t know if there are 2 Melancon’s or not, but the Melancon I saw this past year isn’t the closer the Braves need. The Braves can’t go into next year with Mark Melancon as there closer. Don’t really see anyone out there to get, just have to hope a young guy like Wilson or maybe Chad Sobaka will step up. I can see the Braves do what they do, sign players hoping to get 1 more year out of them. Like Rosenthal, Betances or Arodys Vizcaino. I hope they try and get Daniel Hudson and Will Smith. I can see Prado coming back as a bench player. I thought I read somewhere where Evan Gattis may try and play this next year, a bench player who can catch.
Now that the Braves made the playoffs twice. The goal is to win. Bumgarner is a big game guy. Anyone who has watched playoff baseball sees most of these guys wilt under the pressure. There’s no sure thing in October, but he’s the closest to it.
Should sign Cole, the Maddux move.
Hamels makes sense for the Giants. 2 year deal. Stay competitive instead of throwing big money on Bumgarner even though i would not like to see him leave. Still have Cueto as #1starter.