It appears that ten players have received qualifying offers this year. Bob Nightengale of USA Today rounds up the full slate of players on Twitter, some of whom were already reported and covered on this site.
This year’s qualifying offer value is $17.8MM for a one-year term. Players issued the offer will have ten days to assess their options. Should a player reject the offer and fail to work out a deal with their existing team, he will enter the market carrying the requirement that a signing team sacrifice draft compensation. (While the former team would not stand to lose a pick, it would not gain a compensatory pick if it re-signs that player.) Click here for a full rundown of the QO rules.
This represents a bounce back up in the number of players to receive a qualifying offer. Last year was a record-low of seven, with other offseasons ranging from nine (2012, 2017) all the way up to twenty offers (2015).
Here are the ten players:
- Jose Abreu, 1B, White Sox
- Madison Bumgarner, SP, Giants
- Gerrit Cole, SP, Astros
- Josh Donaldson, 3B, Braves
- Jake Odorizzi, SP, Twins
- Marcell Ozuna, OF, Cardinals
- Anthony Rendon, 3B, Nationals
- Will Smith, RP, Giants
- Stephen Strasburg, SP, Nationals
- Zack Wheeler, SP, Mets
There are a few notable players that were eligible for the QO but did not receive it. Those players will hit the open market free and clear of draft compensation. Didi Gregorius of the Yankees and Cole Hamels of the Cubs were perhaps the leading possibilities beyond those that received the offer. J.D. Martinez would surely have received one from the Red Sox had he opted out of his deal; Aroldis Chapman was also certain to get a QO had he not agreed to a new contract. Quite a few other prominent free agents were ineligible because they were traded during the 2019 season and/or had previously received a qualifying offer.
Which means the one real question mark Didi did not receive one.
is that a bigger question than how the Red Sox gave Anthony Rendon a SO? ;P
bigger question is “what is a SO”?
Thanks for asking that! I am confused myself
It stands for Squalifying offer aka I have too fat of thumbs for my phone
#fatfingergang
This is the info I was looking for.
(Obi Wan Kenobi hand-wave)
These are not the ‘droids you are looking for…
Hahahaa!!
If I were the Yanks I would’ve, but he’d prob accept it.
And that’s why they didn’t. He’s not worth 18m
Since when does Rendon play for the Sox?
Not meant to be a reply
Based on “sources” he didn’t.
They don’t need him
Will smith gets one? Thats a surprise
yes and no, he is the top relief arm on the market and if he accepts it solidifies a place in the SF bullpen that got raided heavily, if he rejects at least you get something back for not moving him @ the DL.
It’s not a surprise at all.
No way Smith turns that down…. More likely they offer him 3/$30
If that was the offer I’d take the QO and look for a better deal next year. From $17.8MM to a $10MM AAV? Run away.
Hes gets 3/36 minimum
Yeah I bet accepts it.
Nah, fam. Decision was made in July to give him one. Otherwise he woulda been traded. Farhan can’t let assets leave the squad for nothing.
The qualifying offer is worth more than what Smith has made the last 6 years.
Rendon – the Boston legend
#NeverForget
Anthony we hardly knew you in Boston
There is a typo. Rendon is listed as a Red Sock.
People really be objectifying players like that. They have feelings too smh. #RendonIsMoreThanARedSock
Rendon….a Red Sox postseason legend
How did Anthony Rendon become a member of the Red Sox
new GM making moves lol
Is it a typo… or an omen…whooooo
Whoooo
Anthony Rendon is listed as a member of the Red Sox……
Man, Rendon switched teams quick!
Well if its listed here. Its official. Quick Red Sox, trade him for something before the copy editor changes it back.And notify Msnfred
I feel like the White Sox value Abreu a lot higher than the rest of the league. Abreu should take that qualifying offer and run
Rendon is a National not Red Sox.
anthony rendon red sox?
I didn’t know rendon was a 3rd baseman for the Red Sox
Red Sox wish they could get Rendon on a QO
Tendon isn’t the Red Sox
*rendon*
And now we can begin to understand how my typo slipped into the post!
But only 200 people pointed it out thinking they were cool.
Autocorrect’s big market bias
Chicken?
I think it is a little mean-spirited to be talking about our pitching rotation like that.
I think Smith accepts and maybe Odorizzi, everyone else doesn’t
If Abreu doesn’t he needs to fire his agent.
Ozuna sure. Castellanos and Puig may already have soft markets, and Ozuna with a QO will only be softer.
I don’t think he’ll accept, but will work out a new deal w/ STL
Nice work already by Chaim Bloom, acquiring Rendon for the Red Sox. Way to go!!!
What would it cost to get donaldson on the angels? Im thinking he would be much cheaper than rendon and fills a hole for them.
If the angels can add him, gerrit cole and say an ordorizi/bumgarner, then go for a jason castro they might have a shot at the playoffs.
How could the Angels possibly sign Donaldson when they’re already about to sign every other free agent on the market?
They won’t need him, Cozart will be Comeback Player of the Year at 3B!
.231/.299/.438
Anthony Rendon does not play for the Red Sox…
You’re only like the 500th person to mention that typo. Maybe take a glance at the comments before pedantically correcting an honest mistake.
Damn….did you see Rendon is with the Red Sox?
Will Smith gotta be so psyched lol
Will Smith would be smart to take the QO.
Not so fast. Dude’s already had one TJ, and he’d most likely be traded in July if he accepts.
I agree. He doesnt take it he’s signing for 8-12mil this year come April or May. The draft pick just kills so much value. How many RPs even make 17.8mil? On a yearly avg?
Rendon is with the Nationals, not the Red Sox
I feel like I’m in the minority and am happy we have Smith a QO. If somebody signs him before the draft we recoup some value, if he accepts it we can try and flip him at the deadline for potential value and even worst case he accepts it and is bad, well it’s only one year and we aren’t contending anyways.
This a thousand times this.
This was decided in July. Farhan can’t let assets leave the squad for nothing. If they weren’t going to QO him, he woulda been traded in July.
The best play for Giants is for him to reject, tho. They have $60M to spend and no reason to spend a third of that on a closer. The question is does Farhan offer a 3-year deal in the next 10 days?
You have Anthony Rendon listed as Red Sox lol
I am curious how many of these guys will sign deals with a higher AAV then the QO. I wish more dudes would bet on themselves and go short big money deals while relatively young. Unless I’m a pitcher, and maybe even then, I feel like going year to year for high value contracts would be a hell of a wild ride.
Answer is five or six.
Cole, Rendon, Strasburg and Donaldson will definitely get a higher AAV. I think Bumgarner and Ozuna are the only other two with a chance
Will smith lol…. yikes
Just one of the best relievers in ball the last two years.
Anthony Rendon. 3B. Red Sox????
*Rendon comment*
Something something…Rendon Red Sox
And when did Anthony Rendon become a Red Sox?
On a serious note, Will Smith should accept the QO. He can go back on the market next year, having the same value and $18M in his pocket.
Only same value if he pitches exceptionally well again. (Yes he would be free of QO but would be one year old so call that a wash.) So not as easy as it sounds.
A lot easier for position players. He’s already had one TJ and if he accepts, he’s most likely traded in July. Turning down the QO means more money overall and he gets to pick his home for the next few years. ♂️
The QO is way more than smith could get on the market
it may not have been if he didn’t have the QO but with it on him it is probably going to hurt his market
He can probably get 3 years/$36 million.
that’s the exact numbers i was thinking of for him with the QO attached. guess it depends on how much faith he has in himself bc if he comes back on the QO and pitches the same way that same offer will be out there next year as well(maybe even better with a repeat). so comes down to 3/$36M or bet on urself and potentially get 4/$53M at minimum
Not with a qualify offer hanging over his head. Teams hate giving up draft picks for this middle price smallish deals. He better accept it, or he’ll be looking for a team in April.
They don’t at all. Milwaukee did for one year of Grandal. Mets did for two years of Cuddyer(!). Orioles did for two(?) years of that guy who had a solid year for the Rangers.
Teams actually hate giving up draft picks for lunatic pitchers who think they are worth nine figures (Keuchel and Kimbrel.)
if u sign early u get paid whether there’s a draft pick involved or not. look at the RP market the best few years, the best deals(for players at least) have come early in FA
Milw doesnt lose as much in a draft pick. They lost I think a 3rd rd pick. But look now at their minors. It’s sitting about dead last? After the graduates and trades.
Question would be, what lower revenue team is a Will Smith away that loses that 4th pick from WS hype? Also, having the payroll flexibility?
why would u think that a lower revenue team would be in the market for the top relief pitcher on the market? dodgers, phillies, astros, red sox(depending on their payroll situation), mets, braves, angels, cubs, and twins are all playoff hopeful teams that need backend relief help. u could make the case that half the teams in baseball would be in on him depending on what he’s looking for
Since when does Rendon play for the Sox?
While i wish he was our 3rd baseman, I think Rendon ended the year with the Nats 🙂
I don’t know what’s more surprising: Abreu and Smith getting the offer, or Didi getting snubbed.
Didi slightly more.
Smith was gonna get the offer once he wasn’t traded in July. Farhan can’t lose assets off the team for nothing. So that’s 0% surprise.
Kinda surprised didi didn’t get one
There’s really no room for him unless the Yanks decide to leave LeMahieu at 1B, which makes little sense — especially when the Yanks know they need the money for pitching. Surely they want to play one of the cheaper corner players like Voit at 1B rather than risk paying Didi a lot of money. Besides, the Yanks could still re-sign Didi if they ultimately prefer him at short over Torres. But it comes down to Didi being expensive, an injury risk and playing the wrong position.
Well said.
I don’t agree with that at all.I think Didi defensively is a much better ss then Torres.I think Torres is better suited for 2b and is great there.I also think that trusting Ursela and Andujar to be consistently good at third Gio offensively Andujar defensively would be a risk and having Didi allows you to slide DJ over to third. Also much like the original reason for signing DJ he could be used at second third and first with Didi in the lineup. With rest days for Torres Didi and who ever is playing third even with a capable 3b there would be plenty of chances for everyone to play. Finally you say expensive. How much do you think Didi commands in the free market.I think 15 per year is tops. Not exactly a huge sum.
i think the yanks might be thinking about moving adjular over to first,because of his defensive troubles at 3rd,and playing urshela and dj at 3rd. either way i think there’s still room for didi and i think they may be hoping that they can get him back on a 1 year deal at a lesser salary than the QO. it may actually make sense if ur didi too. take say $15M for 1 year to return where you’re comfortable and in a good offensive evironment and re-enter the market next year as the top MI. coming off last year he was likely in line for $100M+ before the injury
Strasburg waits to resign with Nats so that they have to offer the QO which then makes him ineligible to have one attached to him if he is a free agent again in the future?
At this point he’s a regular free agent and he’s looking for a long term deal and won’t likely be a candidate for a QO in the future.
Yes…
What’s known now is that the Giants will start the next season with a decent, if overpriced bullpen. Even so, Zaidi will move both of them at the deadline for more minor league pieces, and since they didn’t have ready-made left-handed relievers waiting in AAA, I’ve got no problems with this approach. I’m more interested in what happens with Bumgarner.
smith will be the only high priced arm in the bullpen – it will be lower than last year though since it is just smith and watson whereas last year it was smith, melancon, dyson, watson (and pomeranz) pulling big league salaries
So it hasn’t been done yet, but I’ve never seen it anywhere how the QO works after acceptance: if the player accepts, are they eligible to be traded right away or are they not eligible until after May 15 like free agents?
I think it might be later actually like June? Or they can’t be period without their consent?
A free agent can be traded without their permission starting May 15 (99% sure that’s the right date). But if someone accepts a QO, they “stay” on the roster. So are they eligible to be traded?
for someone i thought january but i could be way off base. sounds like a question for the next chat.
The player is a free agent as of the final day of the season. When he accepts the QO that is the same as signing a 1 year FA contract. He cannot be traded until June 15th without the player’s consent.
Is it June? I thought it was May for some reason. But good to know.
How come everybody’s so down on Abreu. In 5 of his 6 years he had over a hundred RBI’s. Last year he hit 33 hrs with 123 RBIs. Why doesn’t anybody think he’s worth something?
Because people haven’t gauged player value by RBI’s since 1992.
Lack of any defensive value, .330 OBP, turns 33 in January. Not saying he isn’t useful, but he has a profile that isn’t tough to find.
While you are right in what he lacks, it’s not like the run of the mill bat-mostly first baseman puts up his numbers or would with the PA.
@spinach
12 1B put up better #’s than Abreu last season.He’d have been easy to replace.
@pplama 12 FIRST BASEMAN put up better stats than abreu last year…but abreu doesnt play the field much so dont consider him a 1B lol
Abreu played 125 ganes at 1B. And I was responding to spinach, who said not many 1B put up #’s like Abreu.
i know he “played” 125 games there but that was out of necessity, not bc he’s good at it. go check out his defensive numbers. he’s a dh masked as a 1B
Unfortunately he doesn’t like to DH. Renteria is too weak to make him. So the Sox are deliberately playing his terrible glove at 1B.
o trust me i get it and his role as “leader” gets him off the hook in that regard but at some point(soon) somebody’s gonna have to have a talk with him and tell him it’s best for the team to get him off the field
That’s the only reason I’d be fine with him accepting the QO. The decline is here. Staying 1 year at a time with him is the best thing for the Sox.
I guess hrs don’t count either.It makes sense though because now they give guys like Harper 13 year contracts because he has a good obp. I have post graduate degrees in psychology stats so I understand the advanced metrics.That being said if a player in the last 6 years can knock in 611 runs hes doing something right.Why don’t you name all the players throughout the league on much better hitting teams who have knocked in more over that period.Maybe you can explain it by saying he just had more chances then anybody else hitting 4th for the White Sox.Lol
Jose Abreu is plenty valuable, especially to the White Sox above and beyond his traditional stats. He offers important clubhouse intangibles to the White Sox as well as with his marketing value as the face of the franchise during their recent 3-year rebuild which should transition to relevancy and contention beginning in 2020.
Abreu deserves a chance to be a part of the White Sox going forward and the front office would be making a huge mistake by not letting that happen. I don’t believe he will be leaving anytime soon, especially with owner Jerry Reinsdorf on his side and signing the checks.
Don’t let the eggheads here tell you otherwise.
Don’t mention intangibles – there isn’t a stat for them, so they clearly don’t matter.
Funny how Theo talks about character ALL the time when discussing his roster, but if a fan brings it up, they get attacked immediately. It’s almost like there’s more to baseball than just a spreadsheet.
RBI is a team stat, not a measure of individual performance. Many players have been better at driving in and creating runs than Abreu over that period. Add to that his defensive deficiencies and you have a good but not great player.
I don’t quite understand the Will Smith offer — his second half splits were pretty bad:
1st half:
OPS – .490
SO/W – 6.63
HR allowed – 3
WHIP – 0.798
2nd half
OPS – .761
SO/W – 3.31
HR allowed – 7
WHIP – 1.310
Not exactly the trend you want to see in your closer.
They have a ton of payroll space. If not you’re right it would have been fairly questionable.
So Has Cole officially turned his QO offer down yet?
boras laughed and said “watch this kid, i’ll get u $18M/start!”
I think the NYY made the right move. Didi is pretty good, but I think he’d have accepted the QO, just to re-establish himself with a healthy year. Then the NYY get stuck with a player for $17M+, that they didn’t really have a starting position for. Better to save their pennies for Cole.
They are about $90m under the tax line and they aren’t going to spend it all on onerous long term deals. Smith’s not great but the offer is fine even if he excepts.
With arb raises the Yankees are over $200mil in payroll obligations before making their first FA signinng.
White Sox just threw $5mil in the toilet.
Cubs threw their entire dynasty in the toilet
the cubs have a dynasty? they won one ring.
Well, it was set up to be. Now into the toilet.
Have faith! Perhaps David Ross can unclog the crap that Joe Maddon and Theo have left in the toilet since 2016.
Thames 116 wRC+, 1.9 fWAR has $7.5mil option declined by Brewers.
Abreu 117 wRC+, 1.9 fWAR gets $17.8mil QO from White Sox.
One of these teams does not operate as if it’s 2019.
Yeah, White Sox’s didn’t really think that one through
White Sox contacted the commissioners office to see if the could shed anymore international bous pool money as part of their QO. Williams and Hahn paying the twtw premium.
Yes, because cherry picking advanced analytics are the sole source of comparing Jose Abreu and Eric Thames. lol
I have news for all you eggheads. Eric Thames has more in common with Yonder Alonso than he has with Jose Abreu. I’m especially surprised (not really) in pplama since he is a die-hard White Sox fan and fails to recognize the enormous intangible contributions that Abreu makes to the White Sox in terms of mentoring and recruiting international talent as well as his marketing importance to the team. This is aside from the ‘historic’ offensive production Abreu has provided the White Sox over the course of his 6 years with the team.
what “historic” offense has abreu provided? also feel the need to point out that thames actually plays a position in the field and is better on the bases
You and the other eggheads wouldn’t recognize or acknowledge historic offense since you disregard traditional stats like HR’s and RBI’s where Abreu has staked a place among the greats in MLB and among past White Sox sluggers during his relatively short time in the game since beginning his career in Chicago 6 years ago.
Additionally, Abreu has primarily been a first baseman throughout his MLB career, not a DH. That’s not to say that his defense is good. I’m just stating a fact.
Since you clearly are an egghead, consider that Eric Thames has posted an accumulative 3.4 fWAR in his first 5 MLB seasons. Those metrics include a whopping 6.2 oWAR and a -5.3 dWAR (baseball-reference.com/players/t/thameer01.shtml). Compare those numbers to Abreu in his first 6 seasons (baseball-reference.com/players/a/abreujo02.shtml) and suck on those eggs for a while before your next reply.
first off abreu is nowhere near an MLB great, white sox great?maybe but that’s a pretty low bar. also, thames has only been back in the states for 3 seasons now so stop looking at stats from what is essentially a different player. also, look at only thames’ 1B defensive metrics and take out his rf metrics since he was playing out of position to help his team and considering abreu would be humerous in RF
I never said Abreu was an MLB great, merely that he “staked a place among the greats” with his HR and RBI numbers to begin his career.
It’s fair to point out Thames split MLB career. Even so, Abreu has posted better traditional AND advanced analytical numbers in his 6 years versus Thames past 3 since he returned stateside. From an egghead perspective and just comparing each players last 3 seasons, Thames has posted an accumulative 3.6 bWAR and 4.9 fWAR while Abreu has put up 8.9 bWAR and 7.4 fWAR metrics.
Btw: I had originally posted that Thames career fWAR was 3.4. That is his bWAR. Thames fWAR is 4.8 which still pales in comparison to Abeu’s 21.2 bWAR and 17.9 fWAR.
Thames – 459PA, 117 OPS+, .346 OBP, .505 SLG, .851 OPS, HR % – 5.5%
Abreu – 693 PA, 119 OPS+, .330 OBP, .503 SLG, .834 OPS, HR% – 4.8%
Abreu’s counting numbers were better because he got 234 more PA.
So now were going to discount Abreu because of his durability, something he has demonstrated in every season except for 2018 when he lost significant time due to an injury no man ever wishes to experience?
How about comparing batting orders as well? How did the Brewers lineup stack up versus the White Sox the past three season since Thames returned to the states, when Chicago had just begun their painful rebuild while Milwaukee was contending for an NL Central crown and adding players such as Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain.
Give me a freaking break with these cherry picked stats and consider everything that Abreu has done for the White Sox compared to what Thames offers the Brewers. Also consider how they might have fared by switching teams the past 3 seasons and mull over that before your next comment reply.
“Abreu’s counting numbers were better because he got 234 more PA.”
And Thames’ rate numbers were similar because he only played against righties. Assuming Thames was benched mostly against lefties, his rate numbers would’ve dropped significantly if he had 234 more PA’s.
Maybe the Sox can just get Thames on the cheap and platoon the two.
Thames vs RHP – 397 PA, 131 OPS+, .348 OBP, .529 SLG, .877 OPS
Abreu vs LHP – 182 PA, 162 OPS+, .418 OBP, .591 SLG, 1.009 OPS
Amen to the first thought.
As far as Eric Thames goes, I believe he eventually returns to the Brewers as a FA at a lesser AAV than their $7.5MM declined contract option. Personally, I don’t want to see a lefty bat with Thames profile added to the White Sox this offseason. His triple slash and high whiff rate resembles the failed experiment that Yonder Alonso promised the White Sox last winter and the latter was added as an ‘incentive’ to land pending FA Manny Machado. The White Sox have had enough low BA high SO hitters on their roster in recent seasons.
I want to see a more substantial upgrade this offseason for the open DH or RF spots. Despite being a right-handed hitter, JD Martinez would have been a substantial upgrade at DH. Another righty bat in Nicholas Castellanos would as well, a player this site has already projected going to the White Sox, albeit as their next RF and not at the preferred DH role.
Unfortunately the pickings are slim for quality lefty hitting free agent right-fielders this offseason. The White Sox may have to find their next core RF via the trade route or ‘settle’ for a decent right-handed hitting option like FA Yasiel Puig who truly profiles at the position with his bat and arm.
If all else fails, the White Sox can do worse than add switch-hitting catcher Yasmani Grandal to their catching mix of James Mccann and Zack Collins next year. Grandal would become the primary backstop in 2020 and beyond while McCann can catch Lucas Giolito and start versus most LHP starting pitchers in his final season of arbitration eligibility. Defensively challenged lefty bat Collins would be the third string receiver while backing up Abreu at 1B and garnering some PA’s at DH.
Where does Gregorius go?
He really got screwed by the injury.
Reds?
Can’t see the Smith deal at all. He now becomes MLB’s highest paid reliever, and unless he gets a multi-year for significantly more money, he’s essentially un-tradeable.
They must know what they’re doing, but……..
Should be no shock to anyone Abreu got tagged.
Hahn has no intention of signing him to a multi-year deal. Never did.
That’s b.s., especially since JR signs the checks. I fully expect Jose Abreu to be a White Sox in 2020 and am nearly as confident that relationship will extend beyond the coming season.
If a multiyear deal were on table, reinsdorf would have signed it, because he literally sees Abreu as family. This is All-Hahn trying to hedge bets.
Abreu: Market value – 2 years, $20 nilllion.
Most White Sox fans don’t give a rat’s behind about Abreu’s “market value”. His value to their franchise can’t be measured in terms of his worth to the 29 other teams. Fortunately the White Sox front office and owner Jerry Reinsdorf also recognize Abreu’s value to their organization which was not only demonstrated with the QO they tagged him with but also the likely 2-3 year contract they figure to ultimately agree upon this offseason or next.
Abreu EARNED every bit of the money the White Sox have paid him in salary over his first 6 seasons on the southside of Chicago. He EARNED his $16MM salary this past season and a class organization like the White Sox won’t insult the face of their franchise with a contract offer that everybody else thinks is an overpay.
Classy employers in any profitable business don’t offer salary cuts to employees who produce and are good citizens in and out of the workplace. I know you are old enough to appreciate this element but I fear that there are some younger fans here who don’t quite get it.
Abreu should take that QO and produce another decent year. Whether he gets an extension is up to him and the Sox. .
Sure theres some mushy headed sentimentality at play here. Jerry, for all the much discussed frugality, is a softie. So above market renewals and honors for the likes of Paulie, Abreu, and Harold Baines, anyone he treats like a son. And Dbags like Adam Eaton, Swish, and to lesser extent Sale, get sent out. But theres also an element of shrewd here. While they could nickle and dime Abreu to his expected future value, rewarding him for past performance is a savvy way of sending positive vibes to the likes of Moncada, Eloy and Lou Bob, who all look up to him as a papa. Wouldn’t surprise me if they bring back fan fave Yolmer, even though he’s well below $6 mill. The Sox arent ready to contend (yet). So why not throw some $ around?
Glad to see another commenter here who understands the full measure of Jose Abreu’s worth to his team beyond advanced statistics. Good for you!
In addition to the JD Martinez contract opt-in with the Red Sox I also expected the White Sox to tag Jose Abreu with a qualifying offer. The multi-million dollar question is will Abreu accept the QO in 10 days or reject it for a shot at free agency. I’m guessing that both sides will work diligently on a 2-3 year contract and if no deal is reached Abreu will accept the QO and remain with the White Sox for at least the 2020 season.
Think Abreu is willing to do anything he can to extend his stay, thus his “I’ll sign myself” comment. The camps prolly have an idea of what it’ll take, at this point Jose wants to be in the clubhouse celebration when the team is ready to contend, even if he’s a glorified player- coach in 3 yrs. And likely willing to sacrifice avg value in favor of length. The emptiest feeling would be to accept the QO and then walk, and then suffer in quiet purgatory somewhere like Baltimore or Miami while the kids he tutored go on a rampage
The Giants’ ridiculous decision to not trade Bumgarner and Smith getting closer and closer to looking as bad for them as not trading Harper did for the Nats.
Yeah, the Nats are crying right now.
They’d be crying less hard if they had J.B. Bukauskas and whoever else the Astros were offering instead of Tyler Dyson.
Seeing what the Jays got for Stroman I really don’t regret the Giants not trading him. Unless you have a report of an offer made for him at the deadline had a top 100 prospect involved I don’t think it’s a big deal
Nah, fam. Draft picks more valuable than “prospects”
The draft picks aren’t only the players, but the increased pool money. Farhan netted a couple
million straight cash along with the ✌️ CoMo picks.
Draft picks get you “prospects” as well. And not as good ones as you could have traded him for.
Will the 2 draft picks be better than what they could have received for 2 months of Bumgarner and Smith?
Not likely
How many damn people have to comment that they made a mistake about Rendon and the Red Sox!!!
but who comments on the commenters…
Astounding how many of these comments are about the Red Sox/Rendon error. Don’t people read the comments before they write?
Yankees decide not to risk committing QO to Didi. I wonder if they hadn’t been able to extend Chapman whether they would have made the same choice?
I think so. As I understand it, the Chapman deal does not change the payroll for 2020 (his salary is still $15MM). It changes payroll in 2022 (+$3MM: $3MM above the $15MM they paid him 2021).
The Didi decision was simple. At this moment he simply cannot be valued at $17.8MM. Not even close. He’ll need to re-establish his old level of performance before someone, including the Yankees, pay him that kind of money. He’ll either get that chance with someone else or the Yanks will re-sign him at much. much less.
Good response. It’s very hard to value him accurately.. Fangraphs thought he would get 3/48, but it’s presuming some degree of health and recovery,
Chapman’s AAV goes up and that affects their luxury tax payroll. Because he opted out and was signed to a new contract the average annual value is $17,466,667 compared to $17.2 million on the previous 5/86 deal. $266k is nothing to a team like the Yankees, but it’s still a little more. .
I’m not to sure the Sox would have given JD a QO because they are trying to cut payroll imo they would be fine letting him go for nothing
If he opts out of 3/$60m there’s no way he’s taking 1/$17m. There would have been no downside to QOing him if he had opted out.
Phils phanatic must be the Inspecter Javert of hipster analytics. Will not rest till Jean Valjean Abreu gets put away.
show me a post where i brought any analytics into anything.plz, since u feel the need to TRY to insult me. at least learn how to read before u flap ur gums
No worries, think we’re good now. Just a lot of commotion over a technicality. The Sox are valuing Abreu for past service and a future mentor role (possibly overvaluing but hey its not like they have payroll commitments). They’re going to sign him to a mutually agreeable multiyear extension. The QO just a formality. Much ado about nothing. All good?
i never disagreed really about any of that and he definitely has value(both on and off the field for them). the problem was the notion that he deserves it bc “he lead the league in rbi’s”
Yes, but putting down RBIs is low hanging fruit. Like discounting avg, saves or making Ike jokes. Almost anyone who visits this site gets this. Save your Ted Talk for the rubes in the Wrigley Field bleachers.
somebody has to try to educate them lol. believe it or not im not 100% in on all analytics either(not a big fan or wrc or fip to give examples)but i understand their place and realize that there’s now better stats to more define a players’ value that the “traditional stats”
5-7 guys one this list I wish the Braves could get. Of course I’m talking money we don’t have but it’s fun to dream. Rendon, cole, Wheeler, Strasburg, Bum, and Smith. JD if we couldn’t get Rendon. You could go a long way with those guys on your team … again, completely dreaming here
These free-agent articles are always fun, but the Tigers are not going to sign Puig. He would be a bad influence on the young players. If they need someone to show them how to get in trouble off the field. they can look to Miggy. Besides, the guy’s a punk and that won’t fly with fans in Detroit.
Every time I see the word Miggy it looks like Miss Piggy. LOL
Especially for Detroit considering the deal he has.
Abreu, Odorizzi, Ozuna, Smith, and Wheeler are idiots if they don’t accept.
Bumgarner and Donaldson would certainly be worth a draft pick and a higher AAV for a team that’s actually trying to win, but the reality is that Front Offices beat off to draft picks, so they should probably accept and try not to crash a motorcycle/hit .270 next year respectively.
Everyone else is worth $200 million so the draft pick thing won’t matter.
Wheeler would be an idiot to accept. He’s potentially looking at a 9 figure deal as the best consolation prize behind Cole and Strasburg. Even if he doesn’t break 9 figures, he’s a pitcher. Why would he risk an injury and losing all of that guaranteed money for “just” $17.8M guaranteed. 100% not worth the risk if he gets offered a reasonable deal.