The Marlins’ signing of outfielder Corey Dickerson to a two-year, $17.5MM deal will not go down as this offseason’s most surprising–in fact, his ultimate guarantee was right in line with MLBTR’s prediction of a two-year, $15MM pact back in November. In terms of context, the deal also sits snugly alongside Kole Calhoun’s signature on a two-year, $16MM deal with Arizona earlier this month.
Dickerson might be called the ideal of a solid regular. He’s not an elite defender, his 2018 Gold Glove notwithstanding, but his facility with the stick has made him a must-start during stints with the Rockies, Rays, Pirates and Phillies since breaking into the league 2013. The thirty-year-old owns a .286/.328/.504 slash line with 115 home runs in nearly 800 career games, with a 117 wRC+ suggesting he’s been nearly 20 percent better than an average hitter since 2013. By the latter metric, he’s performed comparably with players like Starling Marte (117 wRC+) and Francisco Lindor (119 wRC+) over that span.
Dickerson has recorded 2.6 fWAR or better in three separate seasons as a full-timer, despite nagging injuries throughout his career; if he can perform to those levels for the Fish, there should be a lot of excess value in this deal. Of course, Dickerson may not spend his entire tenure with Miami, as the limited term of this deal might make him an attractive trade target at the ’20 and ’21 deadlines, assuming his continued health and Miami’s continuation in a textbook rebuild pattern (perhaps not a safe assumption considering Miami’s similarly savvy Jesus Aguilar and Jonathan Villar pickups this winter).
Dickerson’s signing does also carry a few implications beyond just shoring up Miami’s corner outfield, as his relatively light commitment is further evidence that the ever-heightening AAV peaks achieved by premium performers in recent winters have yet to trickle down in the form of substantive raises for middle-class players. Moreover, Dickerson’s relative merits when pitted against free agents Marcell Ozuna and Nicholas Castellanos may cast some doubt on the ability of those players to secure truly hefty guarantees before camp breaks.
Regardless, Miami’s signing of Dickerson reads like the move of a team inching its way out of a rebuild by committing a reasonable amount of money to a relatively stable, if imperfect, player in his prime; the club may yet have a few more losing years ahead, but it’s hard to accuse a team of “tanking” when they add players of his caliber.
Let’s open the floor: how do you grade Miami’s Dickerson addition? (Poll link for app users)
cards04
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StandUpGuy
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Evanjmoore
One question… wtf?
StandUpGuy
I don’t understand the “one question.” Everyone has one. Even you. Every animal has one, too. Are you one of those self hating raci$ists? I hate raci$ts. It’s mamilian nature. It’s a natural part of the digestive system we all use every day. Get over it. Don’t be gross. And for godssake please stop being ashamed of the fact you have body parts to help you digest food. What’s wrong with you? That should have been your “one question” gross person.
cygnus2112
I think you should check the ventilation units in your chem-lab……
It’s messing you up homie!
joparx
I feel like Dickerson is so undervalued, if he’s gettin 2 years 17.5 million I’m not sure Ozuna is worth much more than that
nasrd
I agree. Ozuna is a poor defender and wouldn’t benefit most teams
cards04
Who the hell voted for the f. You guys better be joking
MoRivera 1999
My guess is it’s people who a) hate Jeter so much and b) are emotionally stunted they can’t do anything but hate on anything associated with the Marlins.
Eatdust666
Nailed it!
MWeller77
Maybe they thought the Marlins signed Eric Dickerson
stratcrowder
I’m convinced that there are a lot of people here that don’t actually watch the games and follow the game closely.
Rallyshirt
That or they’re just bots.
Dbird777
f those guys
bravesfan88
Sooo, the fact you are somehow surprised, leads me to guess this is your first day on here??
Also, just for the record:
1. Typically Braves’ fans on here are the worst with ridiculous trade proposals.
2. Cardinals’ fans complain the most about their front office
3. Every fan overvalues their favorite team’s prospects to the nth degree.
4. Boston’s fans disappear when they are doing poorly
5. Everyone complains in the chats about never having their absurdly ignorant questions answered..
6. Predictions and proclamations generally are meaningless on here..It is like the lottery, you just need to hit once to ultimately win..lol
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Boston fans would be hating on your comment so hard right now if their team was doing well and they were therefore actually here
BobSacamano
Welp, you sound like a typical braves fan.
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Clint Frazier for Josh Hader
TheMick7
If only……. but they are close to an agreement, from what I’ve read, wherein the trade consists of Hader for Andujar, Frazier, and a “high level prospect “ that they have yet to agree on. The deal hinges on Cashman being a tough negotiator, from what they’re writing. If they make these deals I’d put the Yankees at 160-2 for the season.
Mendoza Line 215
And if he makes that deal Cashman should be fired because he could have had Cole two years before and a championship if he would have made it then with the Pirates.
MoRivera 1999
Nah. Cole was a 4.24 ERA pitcher then. No one could have foreseen the turnaround. I wouldn’t have signed him. Can’t blame Cashman.
Mendoza Line 215
Cole was the number one draft choice of the entire draft and his first two years were stellar.He was beset by injuries and his own peevishness of the Pirates for not paying him more for those first two years.If ever there was a bounceback candidate he was it.GM’s are paid a lot of money to figure that out.
Minor league players are often overrated not only by their fans but by their GM’s also.
Criticism for bad trades is generally much much stronger than for those trades that were not made.
WideWorldofSports
I see the Braves written all over this
bjupton100
What else should Cards fans complain about? I’m not putting Carpenter out there, I didn’t extend him, trade for Goldschmidt, extend him, trade Miller off to the wri g team. How beautiful would it have been if the Cards had kept Miller until Ari asked what they wanted and the Cards said pick Bregman, and send the rest of the package. I seriously like Goldschmidt, but lived Kelly and liked Weaver.
stl46
As a Cards fan number two is very true.
stan lee the manly
I personally voted F because this signing doesn’t make sense for the Marlins. Yes, Dickerson is a baseball player that has positive value…if your team is contending.
Ya you might flip him at the deadline, but why wouldn’t you get your young players seasoning for when you can actually contend in 3-5 years? They won’t be contending in the length of his contract, so it doesn’t bring any value to a poor team that won’t draw fans anyways
jbigz12
This team gave 1500 ABS to Neil walker, Curtis Granderson, Prado, Brinson, and Harold Ramirez a year ago. One Corey Dickerson won’t hurt things.
spinach
It will more definitively commit those ABs to the random vet Dickerson; guy like Granderson is only a pencil-in and his ABs could easily be given to a non-blue-chipper.
brewsingblue82
For veteran leadership to provide solid production in the meanwhile. The Granderson/Walker signings were done for veteran leadership while hoping for rebounds while this is a solid, low commitment on years/money signing that could net prospects if he produces. Solid deal from my standpoint and nowhere near an F.
Mendoza Line 215
I gave it a b for possibly blocking young players but Dickerson is a very good player and I give the Marlins credit for realizing that fact.
MoRivera 1999
When they tanked last year 95% of the fans on the planet were complaining to high heavens and personally eviscerating Jeter. Now we have fans complaining because they aren’t in full-blown tanking mode. Can’t win.
jtvincent
whats the chance they have 3 guys that really need time? not much. he is a vet and can help mentor till he gets traded. a+ good provides leadership and gives fans someone to root for until they flip him. win win.
marlins17
Yeah man a few people said it but its 100% to help the young guys grow and help give the young pitching some confidence. There are more than enough at bats to go around. But its a huge development killer when young pitching has zero offense to help. Add Villar, Dickerson and Aguilar jn addition to BA, Isan, Harold and Cooper growing with another year under their belt and finally pitching will get some help to grow with confidence.
The Human Rain Delay
Some people in here play solely by the notion if your not a contender you do absolutely nothing and toil in misery- Thats where the F’s came from-
These are typically the same people that will go out of their way to unleash all hell and shred a basketball player to his core if someone compares them to Micheal Jordan as the greatest player ever
These are lost souls, they are very angry indeed but behind that lies a lot of sadness
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I give this comment an F
stan lee the manly
What does Michael Jordan have to do with this even a little bit?
Some people have different opinions than you, how does that correlate with being a sad and angry person? Weird comment.
The Human Rain Delay
It has to do with people like you you giving this trade an F- Your a hater and act like getting better doesnt mean anything, you even act like its somehow your money being sent (weird) =Its sickening to watch- Only when you get to Micheal Jordan status you become untouchable which leaves you a lot of green pasture to hate on (something you adore probably)
Where did all you people go to get cloned into mindless zombies…
Ruben_Tomorrow 2
It’s a good signing, but it doesn’t really make much sense for Miami unless they hope to flip him at the trade deadline. He’s a perfect Tampa player, unfortunately they don’t want to pay his modest salary.
Dbird777
Sad that so many teams that want to contend decided not to spend a very affordable amount to sign this guy. I guess they were worried about the injuries, but baseball is like life: if you worry instead of take action, you get what you deserve—-nothing.
jtvincent
it makes you wonder why he would want to come there. I dont believe a team with a chance would not have made a offer as good. of course he might have better luck getting on a winner in mid season. at least if you get traded mid season you know it they will have a chace.
bjhaas1977
He’s gone by the deadline. It’s a definite A.
mlb fan
If he has a good first half, he is DEFINITELY gone at the trade deadline…..
solaris602
Dickerson has historically been a very productive first half player. Somebody in MIA did their homework
someoldguy
Eddie Rosario of the Twins has accomplished a a wRC+ of 117 in one year.. last year he was 103…
luclusciano
Huh? Maybe I am missing something. Dickerson has a career wRC+ of 117. Rosario 105.
davemlaw
Any move by the Marlins to try and improve is always an A
ronnyalton
davemlaw: Agreed….but being a braves fan let’s talk about the Uggla trade in 2010 and try and figure out how that …I’m kidding. Totally kidding… You guys got a good pick up. The kid can play ball very well.
davemlaw
I’m a Giant fan. It’s just refreshing to see a team like the Marlins make moves to better themselves when my team is doing next to nothing.
brewsingblue82
It’s definitely refreshing to see a team still very much in a rebuild make a move that’s just looking to improve the team during the rebuild to keep themselves from being as bad as they were last year. However, the Giants and Marlins are in different parts of their respective rebuilds. The Giants basically need to let their bad contracts fade before making moves like this honestly. They need more younger players to step up so that when these older contracts fade they can afford to go after better free agents. The team I feel bad for the fans of I think is the Pirates. 4th place finish last year, hardly a hefty team payroll, yet they’re going to go rebuild by shredding what little salary they have while adding pretty much nothing. Basically headed for an almost certain last place finish just for being so cheap.
Mendoza Line 215
I would never ask “ for whom the bell tolls”.The Pirates need to move in certain areas but they are getting two pitchers back and with a few smart mid tier signings and the further development of their young players they could very well be a decent team this year.Hope springs eternal but management was poor last year and that alone with be worth a number of games.I actually see all of the three top teams going downhill so that gives more hope to the Pirates.The Reds could be the team to beat.
zuma
I wouldn’t go so far as saying the Pirates have a meaningful shot at contending, but I agree with you about the Reds. That division is totally up in the air this year.
SimbaHOF2019
much rather have giants mgmt than Miami’s
Mendoza Line 215
Zuma-I did not mean to imply that I think that the Pirates will contend but inasmuch as the whole division other than the Reds is weaker I think that they can win more games in it this coming year.
In some ways it is a crapshoot who will win the division and I am just crestfallen that the Pirates pitching was no better than it was last year even with all of the injuries.If it was as advertised and without the injuries they could have contended last year but their depth weakness was exposed and that does not bode well for this year.
Rangers29
This Marlins offseason along with the White Sox have been the most “valuable” of all of the teams. The Marlins have a ton of flippable pieces, and the white sox are ending a rebuild with a bang. The Marlins will still get a top 5 pick in the draft, and they can also flip their players for prospects. Good job both.
coldbeer
Toronto is up there also…
snotrocket
As a Giants fan, I’m kind of jealous of the Marlins off season. The Villar and Dickerson pick ups were the kinds of moves I was hoping the Giants would make. Instead they gave Kevin Gaussman 10 million bucks. Hopefully they can grab an Alex Wood or Tajuan Walker type to flip at the deadline, but the Marlins will probably grab up those dudes too.
Rangers29
oof
Javia
Padres fan here and I am extremely jealous is the Marlin’s moves too. Do you know how painful that is to say!?! But Dickerson and Villar beats the hell out of Pham and Profar any day. Congrats Marlins fans!
Simodine
Give it an A for improving the product on the field. An F because they should be trying to get the number 1 pick specially in that division. So gave them a C, could still be an A or B if he is good an traded. Was also a bit more money then I thought he would get which is probably why signed there anyways.
619bird
It’s an A.
John Mozeliak and Dewitt are ignorant and prideful mf’ers. They’ve got a huge gaping hole in LF and have no intentions of resigning Ozuna unless it fit in the category of (bargain basement).
This guy commands a 2 year deal and might block one of Johnnies bonus babies that may make it appear for him be the smartest guy in the room.
Dickerson was a perfect fit and these idiots decide because they might have the next big thing that may not be a bust to just do what these clowns did last deadline when they told the team they’d get them some help and just stand pat. Screw the Korean signing! That was bargain basement all the way for those tools. They don’t know what they’ve got with Kwang but they know if he washes out it’s not much payroll they’ll get ripped for like Carpenter and Fowler and in the end Goldschmidt.
Robust Scouting
619bird…solid comment. True all the way around.
SimbaHOF2019
Its almost january and good outfielders still on the board. You know by now the Cards usually slow play the market. They also have to make a deal for a middle of the order bat. They have to let the market play out to figure out who will trade with them. They have to cull out some outfield prospects.
Aaron Sapoznik
There is zero reason not to give this signing by the Marlins anything but an ‘A’ grade. Corey Dickerson fills a need on the team, he is not blocking a MLB ready prospect in LF, has no qualifying offer attached to him and can always be flipped by the still rebuilding Marlins for a younger player or prospect this summer or next offseason. Dickerson only cost Miami a reasonable sum of money and will make the team a more worthy watch for their fans in 2020 along with veterans Jesus Aguilar and Jonathan Villar who can also be flipped for younger talent.
mecousinvinny
Good post
jbigz12
You could give it a B. Jesus Sanchez and Monte Harrison will be ready by year 2 of this contract. If they’re unable to flip him at the deadline. That could be a drawback
Sadler
I struggle to see the downside from the Marlins point of view. Reasonable contract that doesn’t hurt the team much if something goes haywire injury- or performance-wise and an attractive trade chip if things go well.
jdgoat
The clearest path to downside is he replicated Jed Lowries two year deal with the Mets, and that still wouldn’t matter even a little bit for the Marlins.
MIA_wiffleball
Great pick up for the Marlins.
My Marlins Projected Lineup:
1. Rojas – SS
2. Diaz- 2B
3. Anderson – 3B
4. Cooper / Aguilar – 1B
5. Villar – OF
6. Dickerson – OF
7. Ramirez – OF
8. Alfaro -C
Not saying they are a playoff team, but this is a very competitive team of their young pitching staff can have a nice follow up season together again. If their record is not great at the deadline and players like Smith, Villar, Aguilar, Dickerson,are having solid seasons, they can get flipped for MLB ready prospects.
Only thing I’m worried about is having all these veteran hitters blocking playing time for our position prospects.
jbigz12
Villar isn’t an outfielder.
MWeller77
In the past, he hasn’t been, but according to a Steve Adams post earlier this month:
“The Marlins plan to utilize newly acquired Jonathan Villar in a super utility role rather than play him at just one position, as Mattingly explained to Kyle Sielaff and Paul Severino in a podcast appearance. In addition to his customary second base and shortstop, Villar figures to be deployed at third base and in the outfield at times.”
jbigz12
Sure, he played out there for the Brewers but I wouldn’t pencil him in as an everyday OF. I would imagine that the bulk of Villar’s starts are going to be coming in the infield.
Phiilies2020
Villar should leadoff I think
The Human Toilet
A
Why not?
brucenewton
Marlins have more money to spend than the Indians I guess.
TheMick7
I’m confused why the Giants didn’t go for him….. he’s a good player and the Giants need help, well, everywhere, except catcher.
snotrocket
Let’s be honest, Posey isn’t very good anymore either.
SFGRab
Yastrzemski, Alex Dickerson and Duggar are all lefties. I’m pretty sure Zaidi is on record saying they were looking for a right handed bat in the outfield…. Ozuna?
The Human Rain Delay
Giants are waiting for the big 2021 offseason which coincides with Posey Belt Crawford Cueto falling off- Expect this same song and dance next year as well
cdav45
As an Indian’s fan, the Marlins are pissing me off. We should have been the ones to get Villar and Dickerson. What a difference those 2 would have made on the Indians roster. Now they’re playing for a non-contender that will certainly trade them for a couple of prospects by the deadline and it wouldn’t surprise me if it were the Indians.
Acquiring both was a very good move by the Marlins. I’ll probably give an A.
TheMick7
There are so many teams that could’ve used this kid and his extended stay on the market (relatively speaking, I know it’s only December) surprises me. This is a good get for them and I voted a reluctant B. Depending on how it turns out (hindsight bias) it could very well be a solid A-grade signing. Good job, Marlins and congrats to your fans!
Enzosrevenge
Good for marlins.thought my Padres should’ve gotten him ..poo guess aj knows something
jpeck3410
You vote F because why would a team who will lose 100 games sign a guy of his caliber?? What makes even less sense is why he would choose the Marlins over another team. Marlins must have over paid.
jorge78
That’s why I like this slow time of the year Dylan. You guys come up with interesting articles nonetheless…..
Matt Tobin
A B that can easily become an A depending on who he is platooned with.
Dickerson quietly mashes righties without being an extreme liability against LHP(unlike Joc Pederson for example). Pair him with a solid RHH and you’ve got star level performance for a bargain bin price
mecousinvinny
Marlins get a B from me — good signing
mecousinvinny
Marlins get a B from me — good signing
Henry Limpet
Heck yes, Dickerson is a good hitter and he plays hard every day..
When he played for the Pirates, he did all the little things that make a player valuable, to go along with his always dangerous slugging abilities.
The Pirates could have easily afforded Dickerson but their cheapskate owner wanted to squeeze out more profit so he gave him away for nothing to the Phillies in August.
This, even though the team was already making a good profit with their tiniest payroll in the league.
Pirates owner Bob Nutting disgusts me.
Now he wants to rebuild an already decent team when all he needs is some better pitching and some outfield depth to contend again. He’d rather give away players like Dickerson for nothing, and trade away the good players that make it worth coming out to the park for the games, when he was already making a decent profit……Just so he can pay an even smaller payroll to a bunch of rookies who won’t cost that much, but won’t be good enough to contend for a long time again.
Then when they finally contend he’ll do the whole cycle over again.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Would have been an A for most teams, but Marlins should be in full rebuild mode, so why have a short-term contract for a guy who could cost them draft pick slots? B.
spazaru
I’m a Pirates fan and I love him but this signing would be better if Dickerson didn’t have so many injuries lately. Also, in his last couple of full seasons, he dropped off bad after the All Star break. If the Marlins can flip him at the deadline for some good pieces, it’s a good signing I guess.
Eatdust666
I’ll give it a B.
bravesfan
It’s a great deal. Suddenly this marlins team looks pretty good. I don’t think they are division winning or even playoff contenders… but it definitely a team that can beat anyone any day. Their pitching needs to improve across the board, but their lineup is solid. I hate the marlins, for years I thought they were bad for baseball. Starting to wonder if they have figured it out some ….
bradthebluefish
I like Corey Dickerson. I like the signing. I just don’t love it because of who the team is and the likely outcome of their season. Grade B.
bhambrave
I gave it an A. The die hard Marlins fans will have a better team to watch, and bringing in quality guys with name recognition might encourage some casual fans and transplants to come to the ballpark.
KermitJagger
A if he can stay healthy. This is definitely a nice trade chip to a contender. Still waiting for the PTBNL from the Phils for him.
Phiilies2020
Dont see how anyone could have picked F unless you are just an angry, negative, bad human being.
DarkSide830
best outfielder on the market id say.
Tigernut2000
The Tigers cou9ld have signed him for 3 years to mentor Meadows and Cameron in ’21 and ’22 with no risk of blocking any future or present young outfielders.
bobtillman
The Marlins are probably under some peer pressure to spend some money. Again, tanking has proven to be a disaster for the sport as a whole, and the big boys have had it giving their profits to owners who won’t invest in a competitive team. Revenue Sharing doesn’t come from the sky; it comes from NY, LA, CHI etc. Expect HUGE changes in the RS formula with the new CBA, which will likely be ultimately more impactful than pitch clocks and shortening free agency. You may not see a salary “floor”, but you’ll see something that looks a whole lot like it.
Specifically about Dickerson? Second division guy, hits some HRs, K’s too much, meh OBP,nothing on the bases, and is more likely to hurt than help defensively. But
he’s better than what they had, so it’s a positive move.
Mjm117
So damn the Marlins for trying and damn them when they don’t. Got it!
And yes they have pressure to spend, mostly from their fans. They said they would and they’re doing it.
But this is obviously not enough, ultimate goal is to build a sustainable contender. This regime still has a lot of work to do. But so far so good.
seth3120
By Chicago you must mean after both teams tanked it themselves?
VonPurpleHayes
Good signing for an underrated talent. I gave it an A.
not alkaline
Probably a B but I gave it an A for the possible prospects at deadline.
wordonthestreet
They are not getting any good prospects at the deadline for him
Chris from NJ
Decent pick up but I think it’s more a case of the Marlin’s having to spend money to give the illusion of being competitive. They’ll be in dead last again in 2020 and trying to trade Dickerson at the deadline. Typical Marlin move.
bhambrave
“They’ll be in dead last again in 2020 and trying to trade Dickerson at the deadline.”
You say that like it’s a bad thing. If they trade him at the deadline, that means some other team sees value in him, and will give something worthwhile. He doesn’t cost enough to force a trade, but hopefully he’ll be good enough to bring back something useful.
Chris from NJ
This is why the revenue sharing has to stop or be completely overhauled. Teams like the Marlin’s tank, pocket the money and do very little to improve their roster. Please don’t tell me help is on the way from the minors. What you have here is a grade A dumpster fire.
Mjm117
Didn’t they just pick up Villar and his 10mil+ contract and just sign to an 8.75 milly annual 2 year pact?
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
Mjm117
Nevermind you’re a Mets fan. I can understand it might be hard to comprehend. You’re probably a Jets fan too.
chino31
Would have been perfect for the Yankees if they didn’t have a glut in the outfield