It seems that the situation of free agent outfielder Marcell Ozuna is beginning to achieve some clarity. The Reds, Cardinals, and Rangers are not only still interested but “appear to be the frontrunners” for his services, per MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (via Twitter).
While some market segments have already been deprived of their top options, the best right-handed-hitting corner outfielders remain available. Indeed, the group only expanded at the non-tender deadline, when Domingo Santana and Steven Souza were added to a slate that already included Yasiel Puig, Nicholas Castellanos, and Marcell Ozuna. Somewhat older veterans Cameron Maybin and Hunter Pence are also available for teams interested in righty bats.
The Brewers have inked Avisail Garcia to a $20MM contract, which set down a fairly strong market marker. But the demand situation isn’t quite as strong as might’ve been hoped for by this group. It has remained difficult to ascertain whether there’ll be a major bidding push, even for a group that features youth and established hitting ability.
The trio that Feinsand names on Ozuna has been tied to him previously, so in that sense it’s no surprise. But it’s interesting to see those teams involved at this stage. The Cards have laid low this winter but have said all along they won’t rule out a move to retain Ozuna. The Rangers have funds available to bolster their outfield unit and add some pop to the lineup after missing on Anthony Rendon.
Most interesting of all is the Reds. The Cincinnati organization reportedly agreed to terms with left-handed-hitting center fielder Shogo Akiyama recently, though that’s not yet official. If that contract goes through, it’d give them a ton of options in finishing off their roster. Adding Akiyama already sets the stage for at least a few minor moves for the Reds. Going on to pick up Ozuna or another corner piece would have even more significant implications for the remainder of the team’s winter — and the rest of the market.
A 4-man OF of Akiyama, Ozuna, Senzel, and Winker would turn some heads
Lol. No Aquino ? Smh
Aquino should be counted on as a 4th or 5th OF at best. He’s a 30 year old rookie who had 3 good weeks. He might be something but I wouldn’t hang my hat on him.
He’s 25, huge difference but yeah they shouldn’t expect much from him. If he maintains 2019 then great
He was born 11/22/92 he is 27
haha wow this chain on his age was a roller coaster
Where are you getting that? Bbref has him April 22,1994
25 years old
i hate my father
Bs! He is 32
Aquino was second in the entire reds org in Hr last season. He hit 28 in the Minors and 19 for the reds in two months. He will be your right fielder. I have a prediction. Reds will sign two more before Spring Training. One via FA and one via trade.
You can still go to Arizona to see Senzel and Winker because the Indians and Reds share the Goodyear facility.
Wrong according to his profile stats he was born 4/22/94 he is 25 now
If he is our starting RF, I can see a big crater in the 5 hole. Sadly, much like Votto was in the 2 hole much of last year. Which would be unacceptable with the win-now moves we’ve made. We’ve got to get Ozuna or Castellanos. And Nick C is the known RF
I can’t understand why Ervin isn’t getting a legit shot. The guy stick and play some d at all three OF spots.
Aquino is just as likely to hit .200 as he is to hit 15 HRs in a month again
He’s an older prospect who has had the same scouting report for years in the minors. Big power; big swing and miss. He is what he is. The 4 listed are objectively better options
Big power, big holes…like pretty much every other major league hitter today. It’s what’s being taught, accepted and rewarded. Any hitter that provides .250/30/85 with 175 strikeouts is going to be a rich man in today’s game. Look no further than one Mr. Harper.
Except Bryce Harpers Lifetime OBP is .385. You’ll catch up to the game, one day.
Sometimes late bloomers figure it out
How do you leave off OBP? It’s 2020.
Also how are RBI’s a good measure of how good someone is?
So many things off about your statement.
I welcome a reasonable debate. Ozuna has had ONE really good season. Go back and look at that team. Dee Gordan and Yelich all had great seasons in front of him and Stanton hit 59 homeruns. The team also included Realmuto. What has he done without them?
In regard to obp, how has that helped the Reds with Votto and how often has Harper played in the post season?
People can bury their noses in stat binders all they want, but the bottom line is winning. I personally look at how a player produces runs in clutch situations rather than how often they drive themselves in with homers in nonessential outcomes. Sure, Harper is dynamic. But he is easily pitched to and beaten late in games when it matters.
My statement is geared more towards the game’s philosophy (launch angles, fly balls, swing for the fences with two strikes, refusing to beat shifts, not hitting behind runners, etc) and the blind spot toward fundamentals and the only stat that matters – wins.
Aquino was non-tendered 13 months ago and resigned with the Reds after no one picked him up. His run last year was awesome, but he’s basically an OF version of Dietrich last season. Aquino can’t be relied upon over 162, but maybe he catches fire over a month span. If someone wants him in another trade package, I’ll pack his bags for him.
Especially the head umpire who would immediately turn his head to the manager and yell “You can’t play 4 outfielders at once you dang fool! What is this T-Ball? Get one of them off the field!”
It actually happened a few times last season where a 4 man outfield was implemented.
dynamite drop in monty
The “head umpire” lol what
The crew chief, duh
Yeah hello you know on a 4 man umpiring squad the Crew Chief is also referred to as the Head Umpire? Not that complicated.
And of course I know with the darn shifts that there is quite often a 4th outfielder. I was just giving DHud a hard time as I think the way he wrote his initial comment was funny.
dynamite drop in monty
Uh…. besides the pitcher and the catcher I think you can put 7 outfielders if you want
True, I’ve been an umpire for 30 years. The rule states that the pitcher must be in contact with the rubber, the catcher must be in the catcher’s box, and all other fielder’s must be in fair territory when the pitch is delivered. That is why when they used to intentionally walk batters, the catcher would have to stand in the catcher’s box until the ball left the pitcher’s hand.
The back catcher thinks head umpire sounds weird.
Actually, you can, just pull an infielder. It’s only a matter of time until some manager gets real creative: slow batter, pulls everything, fly ball or two hopper to his pull side. Honestly, if he’s left handed, why bother with any infielders on the left side? Pitch to his pull, play you 2b back, your ss deep to the pull side and drop your 3b back into left field. Rotate all your outfielders to the pull side and you basically have SIX outfielders. lol.
Honestly though, with a guy like Kingery, Marwin Gonzalez, Ketel Marte, JD Davis, etc….why not get into the head of the hitter? They have already shown that they aren’t willing to change their philosophy and singles (bunt) are useless in this game.
Dude, what? That is a WEIRD group of players to choose. The way you wrote that reads like you’re saying those guys are unwilling to change.
Marte and Kingery pull the ball more than league average, but Davis and Gonzalez come in below. The only one who could be considered GB heavy by a good margin is Davis.
Marte came into the league a slap hitting, GB oriented hitter with a GB rate over 50%. Last year he slugged over .500 and had a GB rate barely above league average.
Marwin was a 2 to 1 GB to FB guy, now he’s under 1.5 to 1.
Davis only has 634 major league plate appearances, but he’s also trending in their direction.
Kingery’s batted ball profile remains pretty much the same in his first 2 seasons, he just pulled the ball more in his sophomore effort.
Granted, these guys are not justin Turner type changers, but maybe you meant players NOT like these guys?
I referring to positioning those guys on DEFENSE. They are all versatile enough to move them around when they have the big leather glove on their hand when FACING a pull hitter. (Sigh)
I think at least one, if not both, Senzel and Winker will be moving on in a trade if Ozuna signs with the Reds.
Many have said that Cleveland would want Senzel in any package for Lindor and they inquired at some point before the Puig trade about Winker.
Would that make Senzel second center?
the problem is there are not enough openings for the number of OF on the market. too many young and cheap OF prospects coming up for teams to have a reason to spend.
3 yrs and 70 mill tops…panda & Hanley deserved better. Lmao
“Reds, Cardinals, and Rangers”
Just do it!
Shouldn’t the Blue Jays be in?
They should be in on a corner outfielder. They have enough young cheap talent to offset a free agent signing, not saying that Ozuna is the answer though. That division is so tough though, they are many more pieces away from being a playoff team.
They need a true center fielder
There are very, very few CF’s with decent bats. It’s the shallowest position in baseball right now. Even more so than Catcher. Unless you are talking about a league average or worse CF I don’t think there is one to be had unless you are going to trade for one and you will pay BIG for 32 year old Starling Marte. Another option is Jacky Bradly from the Red Sox. Can’t imagine that sounds to appealing.
I know everyone is tired of the Lindor trade talks but.. if the Reds were to sign Ozuna, would a package of Senzel, Winker, and two top prospects get Lindor?
That would give the Reds an infield of Votto, Moose, Lindor, Suarez and an outfield of Aquino/Ervin, Ozuna, Akiyama.
Doubtful that bot Senzel andWinker would both go, but most likely one or the other.
Senzel and DeScliafani for Gallen and Peralta? Then he and Marte can swap between 2B and CF every other day ha.
if the Reds pick up Ozuna, what do the Reds do with all their other outfielders?
Tradebait for a SS…
It’s only Jan 2, the Reds sure don’t seem like they are finished picking up more players, Ozuna, Lindor, it’s getting very clear this FO is still on a mission.!! Go Reds
They seem to be All In…and I love it!
Reds need to leave Ozuna alone. He’s not an upgrade from what I’ve seen.
How about send Winker and Disco to the Red Sox for Price and Benintendi? Add cash/minor leaguers as needed to appease both sides.
Price and Disco should produce comparable numbers (assuming Price doesn’t completely “fall off a cliff”). And while that is not a significant OF improvement for the Reds, Cincy loves it’s hometown players so it would help team interest and ticket sales. Meanwhile Boston gets under the salary cap and really doesn’t hurt itself for ‘20 season.
Benintendi isn’t going anywhere.
Which sucks, because he despises Boston…
this isn’t true at all
Isn’t this Benintende’s walk year? Not for nothing, but he’s starting to look very mediocre.
Why in hell would Boston do that? Im even a Reds fan and that just seems like crazy talk.
As noted in the original post. It’s not crazy at all – Boston wants to dump Price’s bad contract to get their payroll out of the luxury tax territory. This was the exact subject of several rumors in mid-December.
I’ll add it’s the same situation where the Angeles gave SF a top prospect to take Cozart’s contract. It’s the new way of the world in MLB. Trades are based as much or more on salary/years’ control as it is on ability.
Go for it. Get Lindor too.
If the reds ink him, are they legit contenders? I think they have a great lineup as is, maybe a stronger bullpen & I think they will win the central.
I believe they are about an 85 win team currently. With the addition of Ozuna and possibly upgrade at SS, they would definitely be the favorite to win the Central. Their bullpen is fine atm with Lorenzen, Garrett and Iglesias at the back end. If they are in contention at the deadline, bullpen would most likely be a priority for them.
Reds might as well go all in this off-season and trade a few pieces at the deadline. Get Lindor, Ozuna, and and Castelanos. Trade everyone off at the deadline if they’re not tearing up the league. Marlins did a similar thing a few years back.
At this point, it feels like Ozuna will sign a 1yr contract for close to the qualifying offer rate to return to STL.
I wish. Too much interest for that to happen
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It’s surprising he’s still available, and I agree. The longer he sits on the market, the more likely it seems that he will be back in St. Louis for another year or two
He’s been hurt a lot lately, getting older, funky swing, struggles to play defense… I’m sure Gm’s see all that too and probably are asking, “How much of his success was directly related to having Yelich and Stanton flanking him?”
“At this point”.. ? It’s Jan 2… Hell get minimum 3/50 MM by ST, even with little interest…
Reds outfield will be dramatically improved. Winker definitely the weak link. He must be the worst fielding outfielder in the mlb.
Yeah but he absolutely crushes RHP. Perfect platoon candidate
Not even close to true, he’s not as bad as you think. All of the so called “experts” said the same of Jay Bruce when he was here also, when in fact Jay was a damn good RFer…
Now Adam Dunn…he was a bad OFer…
Adam done was a threat to a teams defense as the DH!….if that says anything.
Once JD signs the dominos will drop. The teams holding off on getting guys like Ozuna because they want the cash to get JD will jump in the bidding. I think even their agents have to know that at this point
I really wonder what kind of contract Ozuna will end up getting ? 2-3 years seems too good to be true . I’m assuming he will life someone into a 4th year.
I hope the Cards are smart about it – if they sign him, Ozuna And Fowler will be our OF’ers for at least the next two seasons . What do you do with all that young OF talent ?
Wish they would finally tell Fowler that he’s the 4th OF’er until proven otherwise
I hope “angt222” is correct about Ozuna! I would much rather see Ozuna return as the #4 hitter for the Cardinals rather as the St. Louis Post Dispatch writer suggested the Owners we’re leaning on putting Carpenter at Clean-up. Hitting behind Goldschmidt. Lordy…Carpenter hitting Clean-up???? Wouldn’t that strike FEAR IN THE HEARSTS of opposing teams!?!?! Wow!!! Carpenter’s batting average in ‘19 was less than he weighed!!! Ha!
If Cards sign Ozuna, I can’t wait to see the over pay Mo gives on another mid tier FA.
Even if Carp has a bounceback year they would STILL need another middle order bat.
I think SF should make an offer. Their new GM hasn’t turned many heads since he took over. I think this would be a good fit for both player and team.
If Donaldson doesn’t sign in Atlanta I think the Braves will get him
I believe Twins have offered a 4 year deal to Donaldson.
Did you mean Twins (not Braves)?
Does Puig have any range to play CF at this stage? Asking for my friend Matt.
At one point I didn’t see the Cardinals bringing back Ozuna but if they are still in the bidding at this point then I like their chances
The Reds would be a really nice fit for Ozuna.
Ozuna to the Reds makes a lot of sense, after they trade for Lindor. They have a logjam of outfielders out there and they need to get rid of a couple of them. I think this would be a good trade offer.
Reds: SS Francisco Lindor
RHP Adam Cimber
Indians: OF Nick Senzel
IF Freddy Galvis
RHP Troy Santillan
OF Jose Siri
OF Travis Jankowski/OF Nick Martini
Top 15-30 Prospect
Another mid-tier prospect not in Top 30
You could add someone like a Schebler in this type deal as well, but I think the Reds could get another pitcher in a deal for him.
The Indians have no need for Jankowski or Martini or more 4th 5th outfield types. Cleveland already has 9 outfielders on their 40 man roster. You have to remember that both teams’ needs have to be met in a trade. I don’t see a trade happening that does not include at least one of Lodolo, Greene, or India along with Senzel and other pieces.
The Reds are not trading Lodolo and/or Greene.
Would love this from the Reds’ side, but no way Cleveland does that. Too much unproven talent and too many prospects as opposed to proven major league contributors. They’d want fewer pieces at higher quality rather than a bunch of lower quality pieces plus Senzel.
wanting and getting are two different things. SD and Dodgers have WAY more to offer than Senzel, but that’s about as good as they are likely ever going to get for Lindor or they would have already traded him by now. They can have India or Santillian as 2nd piece and whoever to fill in the blank. Hopefully it’s Galvis and then Reds can take his money and sign Will Harris
The Indians will get what they want for Lindor or they will roll with him as their shortstop for 2020. Teams will have to pay Cleveland’s price to get him.
It does NOT matter who has more to offer. It matters who is willing to make the offer. The Dodgers don’t tend to trade talent away. Just because they have the most, hasn’t meant they are more likely to trade it. The team willing to make the best offer will end up making the trade regardless of what other teams COULD HAVE offered.
Senzel + is a great grab and most indians will get. Dodgers or Padres aren’t going to part with top talent
Lindor is an outstanding player. but he’s no Hershel Walker…lol
Ozuna will be back as a Cardinal. The other outfielders can’t hit three ball. Fowler may not make it thru spring training.
Ozuna was comical as a defender last season. I hope they do re-sign him.
If Reds can roll Senzel into Lindor and sign Ozuna- that’s a very impressive lineup!
Suarez might drive in 300 runs with that lineup.
Go sign will harris too and they’ll be right up there with Dodgers as best in NL.
If your team stinks- we are taking applications to be honorary fans for the season- only limited number so get in quick! becomearedsfan.com
Lol – we’ll if the Pirates trade for Trout, Cole, Lindor and bring Griffy out of retirement . Well then the Pirates will be able to challenge the Dodgers
1 – 9 . Trout every at bat, when he gets on – he gets a ghost runner
Lindor pinch hits when trout gets tired
Then my rotation is Cole every day .
Boom, made up World Series champs !
Dear Desperate Cardinal Fans- I tip my hat to you for your awesome offseason! You might sign one guy who you were too cheap to sign in the first place.
On a team full of over achievers- the law of numbers will settle in and Cards will be battling Pirates as the bottom feeders in the Central.
Good news! It’s not to late to jump on Reds ban wagon. We are taking a limited number of honorary fans for the season- might as well jump aboard
I agree the reds look like theyve improved but to say they are already better than the cardinals is a stretch. The cards had alot of players have down years and still won the central. I dont think ozuna will make or break the cards. His ops wasnt that great and his defense is terrible. I bet an outfield of Carlson ,arozarena and maybe Bader or justin Williams or someone else will outhit and outfield last years outfield of ozuna, Fowler and bader. I expect fowler to have alittle better year,if he plays, as well as carp and goldy. Also cards have a ton of prospects to try and make a trade themselves. Have the reds improved, sure, but are they assured to win the central, don’t think so.
Why do you expect Fowler to be better than last year? A slightly above average hitter (103 wRC+ last year, 107 on his career) and a below average fielder is basically what Dexter Fowler has been his entire career. Except now he is 33, so while it is possible that he will play better you should expect him to play about the same, or somewhat worse…
Fowler still gets on base. Thats about all he brings. Little power, BAD defense. poor concentration on the bases and rarely hustles down the line. NEVER dives for a ball. and I mean NEVER!
I wouldn’t assume that he will be starting.
No one is jumping on the Reds bandwagon – they will still finish 4th in the Central and they still won’t fill half their stadium on home games. Then they will trade everything at the deadline because they pieced together an average team – which compared to their previous however many years of awful teams, looks like a playoff contender .
This is easier described by if your forced to eat dog food, then things like SPAM or Vienna sausages start looking appetizing.
Now people may jump on the White Sox bandwagon. I wouldn’t blame them.
Payne Train, thank you for the 2020 season synopsis. Now I can move on to winning lottery numbers. You have those too? Let me take a wild guess. You’re a Cardinals fan?
Isn’t synopsis an std ?
Synopsis. Brief summary or general survey of something. Or, in your world, maybe it’s a STD?
Ah, got ya . Thanks
Yes I’m a Cards fan. I’m assuming your. Reds fan since you criticized my opinion and not the one of the Reds trading for the, or one of the best shortstop in the game and signing Ozuna which catapults them to the NLDS champs ?
Calm down, it’s just my opinion that every time a team tries to completely redo their team in a 1 year span, it rarely works out
Cards ? I thought u were a White Sox fan ?? Guess you’re just preparing for the inevitable- a long long season in St. Louis competing daily to stay out of last with the pirates.
You must not watch much baseball –
A bunch of people said the same thing last year and I’m trying to remember who won the central … oh yea, it was the Cardinals . So go ahead and think what you want before it’s happened and I’ll go off of what has actually happened. We’ll see who ends up being right and who’s wrong.
Happy New Year
Oh, by the way. The Reds finished 16 games back in the central last year . lol …. SIXTEEN . Sooo, best of luck.
Reds fans sound like Padres fans.
Who are these overachievers you speak of? Was it Carpenter having the worst year of his big league career? Was it Mikolas regressing a lot from his first year as a Cardinal? Was it Goldy not putting up typical Goldy years? Was it Fowler being terrible? DeJong hitting for a month and doing nothing else the rest of the year? The only guys you’d have a case for “overachieving” are Gallegos and Hudson.
If the Lindor trade doesn’t happen for the Reds, I’d expect Senzel to move to SS, especially if they do sign Ozuna.
CF Shogo L / Aquino R
1B Votto L / Farmer R
3B Suarez R / Galvis S
2B Moustakes L / Galvis S
LF Ozuna R / Aquino R
RF Winker L / Aquino R
SS Senzel R / Galvis S
C Barnhart L / Casali R
If they do get Lindor, my mind will officially be blown
Cards offered QA to Ozuna if he goes to Reds he will hit forty in that Park.
As a Reds fan, I’ve been kind of lukewarm on this guy. Word on the street is that his work ethic is lacking. I’d prefer to see Castellanos now that Dickerson is off the board, but I’d almost rather them see who they could pick up in a trade…
People on here who think you can trade 4 fringe mlb regulars for a top 5 player in the game crack me up. We are not getting Lindor for Winker, Galvis, and some middling prospects. Senzel, Lodolo/Greene, and more than likely India would have to be in the package. Not worth 2 years of Lindor.
Give me Senzel, Ozuna, and Galvis and let me keep my top prospects over Lindor every day and twice on Sunday
Take Ozuna, put Senzel @ SS, he’d b all ovr it, put Akiyama in CF, Aquino/Winker in RF, Ozuna in LF love to have Lindor but @ what cost, that’s ur team+ healthy pitching = success
If he can learn CF then he can play SS, I agree…he’s certainly athletic enough. I wonder what Charlie Blackmon would cost us? Heard the Rocks need to cut payroll…
Cards need to step away. If they’re going to throw money at the free agent market I’d like to see it go somewhere else. Otherwise, let the kids play and fill that role internally. I’d rather see that money spent on pitching
Ozuna is heavily overrated. He should be a DH.