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Camp Battles: Cubs’ Second Base Competition

By Connor Byrne | March 6, 2020 at 11:04pm CDT

As MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes detailed earlier this week, the Cubs are coming off a rather quiet offseason. There were no earth-shattering trades, no significant free-agent signings. The high-payroll club doled out just $3.5MM in guaranteed contracts over the winter, though it did add at least a couple familiar names by way of the minor league market. One of those pickups, longtime Indian Jason Kipnis, is vying to begin the season as the Cubs’ starting second baseman. The position was a sore spot last year for a what was overall a disappointing Chicago team – one that received little from Ben Zobrist (who missed a sizable portion of the season because of a personal matter), Addison Russell and Daniel Descalso. The lone member of that trio still with the organization is Descalso, who’s competing with Kipnis and a couple others to become rookie manager Davis Ross’ Opening Day choice at the keystone. Here’s a rundown of the quartet that’s in the mix…

  • Jason Kipnis: He was a two-time All-Star in Cleveland during his heyday, but it has been a few years since Kipnis even came close to putting up average offensive production. The 32-year-old’s .245/.304/.410 line in 511 plate appearances in 2019 helped prevent him from scoring a guaranteed contract in his first trip to free agency. Kipnis was much better during the second half of the season, though, and the left-handed hitter was playable against right-handed pitchers. As someone who has regularly performed better versus righties than southpaws, he could wind up as part of a platoon for the Cubs.
  • Daniel Descalso: The normally light-hitting Descalso had a solid season with the Diamondbacks in 2018, thereby convincing the Cubs to give him a two-year, $5MM guarantee in the ensuing winter. Thus far, however, the deal has blown up in the team’s face. Descalso, 33, limped to a .173/.271/.250 line with just two home runs in 194 trips to the plate. Along the way, his ISO (.077) dropped off 121 points from the prior season, while his strikeout and walk rates also trended in the wrong direction.
  • David Bote: The versatile Bote, 26, recorded adequate numbers for the second straight year in 2019, slashing .257/.362/.422 with 11 homers and 1.5 fWAR in 356 PA. On paper, it may make sense to attempt a platoon between the right-handed Bote and Kipnis, but Bote actually posted far superior production versus same-handed pitchers than southpaws last season.
  • Nico Hoerner: The 22-year-old Hoerner debuted with the Cubs last September, at which point the recent first-round pick (No. 24 in 2018) was regarded as a top-50 prospect. Hoerner ultimately didn’t log great numbers in his initial taste of MLB action (.282/.305/.436), but it was just an 82-PA sample; furthermore, it was the first time Hoerner had even played above the Double-A ball, making it all the more understandable he didn’t light the league on fire in his initial try. Hoerner may end up as Chicago’s long-term solution at second, but if the club doesn’t think he’s ready yet, it’ll have the option of sending him to Triple-A Iowa for more seasoning and regular playing time.
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57 Comments

  1. fsrasmd

    5 years ago

    Bote/Kipnis sharing duties. Let Nico get some seasoning at AAA. Descalso needs to be released, outrighted, or put on the 60 day IL and not come off it until the season is over. What a horrible, horrible signing. I don’t want him to get a single PA.

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    • Cyclonesbb17

      5 years ago

      I think Pedro Martinez will be the future at Second base. He’s listed as a SS but I think he can play 2nd as well.

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      • brian_james

        5 years ago

        If you’re a shortstop it’s kind of a given you can play second

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        • Gwynning's Anal Lover

          5 years ago

          And if you can play 2B, you can play the outfield too.

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        • brewcrewenthusiast

          5 years ago

          and if you can play in the outfield you can play first

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        • mohoney

          5 years ago

          And *my* axe…

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    • davidk1979

      5 years ago

      Botte is a monster vs righties though

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  2. Vizionaire

    5 years ago

    lmao!

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    • oldtimer

      5 years ago

      That was a very insightful comment! Ugh!!

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      • Frisco500

        5 years ago

        I felt like it totally summed up the Cubs second base situation.

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  3. chitown311

    5 years ago

    A tallest midget contest is more appealing to watch

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    • TrueOutcomeFan

      5 years ago

      Yet, unsurprisingly, here you are.

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  4. Mikel Grady

    5 years ago

    DJ lemahieu 2021

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    • Chubbies

      5 years ago

      Ian stewart

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  5. KingSall77

    5 years ago

    How about Alfonso Soriano. LOL

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  6. Poopscab13

    5 years ago

    DFA Descalso already

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    • Ogermc

      5 years ago

      Love the name…maybe Descalso new nickname? “Poopscab”

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      • golga333

        5 years ago

        What

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    • clarknaddison

      5 years ago

      agreed.

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  7. Ogermc

    5 years ago

    “Hoerner ultimately didn’t log great numbers in his initial taste of MLB action (.282/.305/.436), but it was just an 82-PA sample”

    Serious? Those numbers are pretty freaking good considering he was a rookie, and are above league average, ffs.

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    • YasmaniStrandall

      5 years ago

      12 points below league average. Though I do agree, they’re respectable numbers for someone who’s never played above double a.

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    • TomL

      5 years ago

      Same as I thought when I read today. It’s because the author never actually watched Nico play otherwise he’d have qualified those numbers with a hot start out of the gate but then showing his need for making adjustments.

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      Oger those numbers are not so good. Further those numbers are skewed by the first few games and at bats. The numbers were dropping like a rock every day. He got worse not better if he had gotten more at bats they would have been worse.

      Lastly it was only 80 + at bats so even if you are oblivious to the fact the numbers were not good it is amazing you can suggest that 82 at bats even matters.

      It is a small sample size but the fact that he got worse during the time frame just screams he is not ready for the majors yet.

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      • Cubguy13

        5 years ago

        So which one is it? If he does good then it doesn’t matter cuz it’s only 82 abs but if he does bad at the end of those 82 abs then clearly it matters and he needs to be sent down. Does 82 abs matter or do they not?

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  8. Blah blah blah

    5 years ago

    How about Scooter Gennet? He is still available and if healthy probably a better option than all of the above

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      The reason he is available is that he is NOT a better option or the Cubs would have signed him instead of Kipnis

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      • Blah blah blah

        5 years ago

        That’s not necessarily true

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  9. Chisox378

    5 years ago

    Kipnis would probably love playing in his home state Chicago, he is from a North suburb. Although I believe he was a White Sox fan growing up, he can enjoy the support of fans.

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    • clarknaddison

      5 years ago

      of course he was. go away, you sux’s fans crack me up…

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    • brian_james

      5 years ago

      I’m pretty sure he was a Cubs fan. The media talked about it a bunch during the 16 WS

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    • sufferforsnakes

      5 years ago

      When did Chicago become a state?

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      • meinhardt1992 2

        5 years ago

        Lol

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      • Cubguy13

        5 years ago

        2020 apparently

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      • pt57

        5 years ago

        He must be a dreaming down-stater.

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      @ChiSox

      First he was a Cubs fan not Sox fan but I am not sure why that matters to you?

      Next Chicago is not a state. Chicago is a city inside a state. The State is actually Illinois

      Are you taking notes?

      The City is actually Chicago.

      Am I going to fast?

      The town is Northbrook.

      Do you get it now?

      Is your ignorance an example of all White Sox fans or are you just an embarrassment to actual White Sox fans?

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      ChiSox we are not smart like you so can you please tell us the name of the Governor of Chicago and who the two Senators from the State of Chicago (as you claim) are and please educate us all of when Chicago became a State?

      Also I have a friend looking to apply to the “State of Chicago” police. Who is the Chief of the State of Chicago police?

      Are registered to vote in the State of Chicago? There is a primary in the State of Illinois on Tuesday? When does the State of Chicago hold its primary?

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    • Blah blah blah

      5 years ago

      Nobody was a white Sox fan growing up…

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  10. Seess

    5 years ago

    They forgot to mention Ian Happ. The way Almora has attacked the offseason I could see Happ at second and Almora in center. Not a fan of Bote. Glove is sub par and way too many k’s. He can be clutch off the bench and would be a candidate for the 26th spot. He also has options remaining so AAA is a possibility for him too.

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    • clarknaddison

      5 years ago

      Happ will no longer log 2b innings. it’s clear he will play CF only. I’d assume he’d only log 2b innings in an emergency…

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      • oldmansteve

        5 years ago

        Why not? He graded out averagely at 2B defensively. His bat would be far more useful as a 2Bman than an OFer. If it gives them the best chance to win, why not give it a shot?

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        • cubsker15

          5 years ago

          I’d be playing him there during the spring. if souza is hitting, then why not keep him in the lineup with happ at 2b?

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        • wordonthestreet

          5 years ago

          Souza is not a centerfielder

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  11. Bluesman99026

    5 years ago

    Anybody wanna peanut?

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  12. redstitchedsmile

    5 years ago

    Isn’t Hernan Perez in the Spring Training mix still?

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  13. Cottonheadjoe

    5 years ago

    By the way Chicago is a city, it’s in the state of Illinois. Kipnis’ neighbor when growing up was the fan who touched the foul ball in game 6 against the Marlins. I won’t mention his name because 5 others were trying to catch it as well.

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    • chitown311

      5 years ago

      Steve Bartman

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    • Cubguy13

      5 years ago

      Ok so 5 other people TRIED touching the ball but cuz of that you won’t mention the one name who actually did touch it? Makes sense……

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    • jakec77

      5 years ago

      I mean, not exactly some obscure name.

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  14. whosyourmomma

    5 years ago

    How about the Kawasaki dude with sport goggles, or a bullpen guy who dances well or the chubby catcher who stares at cameras? All those players are important to those high class Cubs fans.

    Wait for Marquee Sports Network to air Ross teaching bullpen guys some moves he learned at Dancing with the “Stars”! Gonna be so epic, Lol.

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  15. daveineg

    5 years ago

    Cubs have a lot options but none are everyday major league players. Hoerner may be fairly soon but he could use some seasoning. I listen all the time about the Cubs having such a great lineup that’s way superior to the Brewers yada, yada, yada, but 2nd base is a real hole and they never know what they are going to get in center and right. Their bullpen remains a mystery too.

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  16. scarfish

    5 years ago

    Every time I see Daniel Descalso’s name I think of James Franco’s character from freaks and geeks Daniel Desario.

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    • Cubguy13

      5 years ago

      I wish that show went longer than one season

      Reply
  17. bigbadjohnny

    5 years ago

    Ryne Sandberg !

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    • rememberthecoop

      5 years ago

      Now you’re talking! Finally, someone on these boards who makes sense!

      Reply
  18. rememberthecoop

    5 years ago

    Actually,.Hoerner looked good during his emergency call-up late last season. But he will start the season at Iowa and the Cubs will go with Jason Kipnis. They would love to do a pllatoon with David Bote, but he actually hits same-handed pitchers better than lefties. But Kipnis will be the starter unless he falls off a cliff like Descalso did. They like what he brings to the table as a leader in the dugout.

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  19. ChiSoxCity

    5 years ago

    Talk about “sticking it to the little guy”. All that revenue, and this is the best they can do? Have fun with that batch of nothing at 2b, cvbs fans.

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    • bucknerkingmansutter

      5 years ago

      And we have fun reading these posts from Sox trolls because that’s all you are…a big batch of nothing.

      Reply

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