MARCH 27, 8:30pm: Union chief Tony Clark says that competitive balance taxes would not be assessed in the event that the season is cancelled, as Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times reports (Twitter links). Generally, Clark indicated that the players are amenable to all manner of creative solutions to get in as much of the season as possible. It sounds as if both sides see merit in expanding rosters to facilitate that effort.
12:35pm: Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter) and Jeff Passan of ESPN.com (Twitter links) provides further details. This year’s draft class will only be eligible to receive up to $100K of bonus money up front, with the remainder paid in two equal installments in 2021 and 2022. Draft selections and international slots may not be traded in the typical, limited manner. Suspensions will apply as usual for the upcoming season but will not carry further into the future if the 2020 season is cancelled.
11:29am: MLB owners have unanimously ratified the agreement, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
6:05am: In addition to the dramatically shortened draft, the players acquiesced on signing bonuses for draftees, Rosenthal further reports within a much more expansive piece on the deal between the two sides (subscription required).
Slot values in the draft will be frozen at 2019 levels for the next two years as opposed to the roughly three percent year-over-year increase that has been standard. That decision will surely draw its share of criticism, though it’s clear that the players’ focus is on those currently within their union. Player representatives, in particular, figure to take umbrage with ownership’s push to reduce bonuses; Scott Boras calls it “unconscionable” that ownership would “use a pandemic situation in our country as a means to [reduce draftees’ bonuses].”
MARCH 26: With the coronavirus at least delaying the Major League Baseball season, MLB and the MLBPA reached an agreement on several key issues Thursday night, as Jeff Passan of ESPN first reported. Service time, players’ salaries, roster moves, the draft and the upcoming international signing period are all addressed in the deal, which owners will vote on Friday. If it’s ratified, a roster freeze will go into effect for an indeterminate period of time, according to Evan Drellich of The Athletic.
A typical season would have featured 186 days overall, giving players up to 172 days of service time. We don’t know how many there will be this season, though, and that could have had lasting effects on players and teams had the two sides not hammered something out. Now, thanks to this agreement, all players who are active or on the injured list for the entirety of a shortened 2020 season will receive a full year of service time, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Players’ service time will be pro-rated in the event of a truncated campaign, Joel Sherman of the New York Post adds. So, if there’s a 100-day season and a player’s active for 50 of those days, he’ll get half a year of service. If no season happens at all, service time accrued will be based on the amount of days the player earned in 2019, per Rosenthal.
The service time portion of this pact is especially welcome news for many who are due to become free agents next winter. The likes of Mookie Betts, J.T. Realmuto and George Springer will all remain in position to reach free agency then even if a season does not take place. Meanwhile, pre-arbitration players (including names like Matt Chapman and Gleyber Torres) will stay on track to go through the arb process for the first time.
For now, those major leaguers and the rest around MLB will receive a $170MM advance (3 to 4 percent of their full salaries) spread over two months, Rosenthal reports. The union will distribute the money to four classes of players, but those with guaranteed contracts stand to rake in the largest total. The players’ salaries will be pro-rated based on how long the season lasts, and they won’t be able to sue for their full amounts, Rosenthal adds.
Looking ahead to the summer, this year’s amateur draft could go down to five rounds, per Passan, but MLB will have the ability to increase that total, Rosenthal relays, adding that the event won’t occur later than July. Players’ signing bonuses will be deferred, not given out up-front, and they’ll receive 10 percent now and 45 percent over the next two years. Meanwhile, undrafted free agents will be able to sign for up to $20K, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network.
In another decision that will have some effect on young talent from around the game, the upcoming international signing period could be delayed until as late as January 2021, Passan writes. It’s currently scheduled to run from July 2 of this year through June 15, 2021.
These are certainly noteworthy steps for baseball during a time of such uncertainty, though there are still more details to work out. For example, as Rosenthal notes, agreements on spring training and roster size have not come together to this point. Under normal circumstances, we’d have seen 26-man rosters this year, but it’s possible that number will increase for 2020 if a season does occur. According to Passan, there’s a possibility that if the regular season does happen, it will last from June through October and include more doubleheaders. The playoffs would bleed into November and perhaps include games at neutral sites.
Wow. This really hurts the Dodgers, but I suppose if they end up winning it then the cost for Betts would be worth it. Let’s hope we don’t find out what happens if there is no season
2021 Free agent deals will be a lot smaller than what we saw this past offseason, that’s for sure. Mookie will be lucky to get the 10/300 offer that Boston gave him at the start of the 2018 season. We’ll probably see a lot of one year bridge deals with the hope that the money comes back in 2022.
based on total payrolls between 2008 and 2011, we might see payrolls stay pretty even next year or take a small dip but I don’t necessarily think the FA market will crash next year
Dodgers may feel obligated to avoid getting outbid for Mookie. If so, he’s in a great spot for them to overpay. If owner’s collude to keep free agent prices down from lost revenue, wouldn’t be surprised if he even returned to Boston.
@brucenewton that’s… not how the Dodgers operate.
Great… we get a glimpse at the 2021 conspiracy theories of owners colluding (again)
Cant wait –
Are the fans never happy unless they have a pitchfork in hand ?
If there is no season I would bet everything I own the Dodgers don’t let Mookie leave in free agency.
Afk711 Andrew Friedman isn’t an idiot. He understands the concept of a sunk cost. If there is no season then obviously trading for Mookie was a mistake. But he’s not going to compound that mistake by giving Mookie a contract he doesn’t think he deserves.
Anyway, if there is no season, there’s no way the Dodgers don’t at least get an extra draft pick out of all this (in addition to the one they already stand to receive from the qualifying offer).
Except Mookie is a legit top 5 player in the prime of his career. He deserves every penny he gets. In a doomsday scenario there wont be much competition to hand Mookie his deal.
What I’m saying is whether or not there is a season will have no bearing whatsoever on Andrew Friedman’s efforts to keep Mookie. He’s not going to offer him a single penny more (or less) in our timeline than he would have if there was no COVID-19.
The potential of losing Verdugo and Downs for almost nothing will absolutely come into play. I know Friedman does not care at all about noise or what fans say but even he knows how terrible that would be. its not a sunk cost as Mookie is still a great player.
No it will not come into play. It’ll be the same as a team that trades a top 100 prospect for a rental starter during the offseason and then he tears his UCL during spring training and needs Tommy John surgery. Not something Friedman could have foreseen. A gamble that didn’t pay off. He’s not going to compound that mistake by giving Betts a contract that he doesn’t genuinely believe he deserves. Signing Betts won’t make the trade look better. If anything it will make it look worse because it will mean Friedman overpaid for him twice. Once in prospects and taking David Price to acquire him and then once again in $ to sign him.
The prospects they gave up are a sunk cost. They’re not coming back no matter what happens. Friedman knows this. He’s a good GM. The contract he gives Betts will be determined by what he thinks his future production (which will decline over the course of his contract) is worth, and nothing more.
I love how your talking about Mookie like he isnt the 2nd best player in the game.
Depends on how teams make out financially. Do they have insurance for this? Will even 21 be a normal season? Hopefully but we don’t know.
Mookie is great but there is a value that the Dodgers will assign him. If it requires a $400mil contract and the Dodgers only value him at $300mil, then he shouldn’t pay it just for “optics” to stupid fans.
@Afk711 this has nothing to do with Mookie Betts and everything to do with your ridiculous logic. Like Steve Nebraska said, Friedman is going to assign a certain value to Betts like he would to any player. Idk what that value will be, but he’s not going to offer him a single penny more because of “optics” or whatever.
Friedman has said if your rational in every free agent you will finish 3rd. Sometimes you have to go beyond your number. If you cant see why he would be more motivated to bring him back with multiple top young players invested your not paying attention.
The young players he already invested are a sunk cost. They’re not coming back. If you think that Andrew Friedman is the type of GM that is going to pay some kind of premium to keep Betts just because of the perceived bad optics of having given up Verdugo, Downs and Wong for nothing then it is you who is not paying attention.
Bottom line, the only way your argument works is if the Dodgers HAD to trade for Betts first to be able to sign him. Which they didn’t.
LMAO if you think every GM establishes a number and will never go over your wrong. Do you think the Cole sweepstakes started at 300 million? Or Patrick Corbin at 140 last year?
Sure like he’s worth $40M a year for ten yrs. LOL
@Afk711 they do. There is a number that the Yankees wouldn’t have exceeded for Cole. And the Nats for Corbin. But they didn’t have to exceed that number because no one was offering more than them. The Dodgers still aren’t going to offer Betts more money than they believe he deserves because of “optics.” Their GM isn’t Walt Jocketty, A. J. Preller or Dave Stewart. It’s Andrew Friedman.
@Afk811, I don’t think you understand the term sunk cost.
Ours is a cultural ghetto
Bob Kazamakis
I got into some Italian reds and some Columbian whites.
Whenever someone draws penises they’re circumcised and when someone draws houses they’re colonial
Elmo. God save us… the Elmo era. Sesame Street was created to reflect the environment of the children watching it. The complete self-absorption of Elmo is brilliantly reflective of our time. Our’s is a cultural ghetto. Wouldn’t you agree?
Theo Epstein all of a sudden looks like a genius for spending nothing this offseason
lolz. Theo would have spent every cent he could have got his hands on if he would not have spent it in prior offseasons
nope theo still looks like a putz.
Theo Epstein looks like a genius now for doing nothing in the offseason.
Theo is a freakin’ baseball genius.
Oh please the FO gave Theo no choice but not to spend any more monies, Theo is not the genius the FO (ownership is)
Theo is a putz they were ready to can his butt
A lot of college seniors are going to get screwed out of money they otherwise would have made in previous years.
They can just be drafted next year.
Pretty early on NCAA said it wouldn’t count this year against eligibility. Aka, they can be a 5th year senior next year if teams try to stiff em
so what, they can be older and might not even preform better next year? yeah, what a deal.
Or they could perform way better and improve their draft stock significantly.
Them performing worse isn’t the only outcome.
Yes, and not just athletes.
Why would their roster position in 2019 affect this years service time?
Did you forget what year it is?
Do you not know how to read?
If the 2020 season is cancelled, players will accrue the same service time as they did in 2019..
This article has been heavily edited since my original post, and now explains things it did not upon the original release. So it looks like I am completely stupid now, but I assure you I am only kind of stupid.
Ya but would about their salary? sounds like they’ll only get a portion of their full salary if the season is cancelled. If the season starts in July they’ll get paid for July through Oct 2020.
Agreed with other poster.. Those millionaires many on this board do nothing but complain about constantly decided to take care of the players during this time of a national disaster, even tho most of the players are making 1/2m+ annually themselves.
Possibly this will prove a point that sitting inside that bubble those individuals reside (or resided) in shows that many companies do choose to do the right thing with skilled labor when some national crisis arises.
The feeling and actions could use being contagious from a people level all the way to certain people in government when the good of a nation is at stake over agendas
Lay off the drugs.
I didn’t know Johnsilver was a Mets fan?
They might as well just cancel the draft as most prospects outside of the first couple of rounds are not going to sign. They are going to defer draft signing bonuses over 3 years. 10% year 1, and 45% in years 2 & 3. With minor league salaries being below minimum wage, a prospect who signs for a slot value of $100K only gets $10K in year 1, plus a $10-$12K minor league salary. Assuming operations get back to normal in 2021, I think we’ll see a lot of 2020 Round 3 – Round 5 selections decide to forego signing and go back to school (or HS players go to college on scholarship). Unless you are getting a $2M+ signing bonus, it wouldn’t make sense to sign and not have the bonus money available while trying to ascend through the minors on an unlivable wage. This will basically end up being a 2-3 round draft at the most if they have it. Only marginally talented players and college seniors will sign after the big bonus slots are selected.
Also, if the season is shortened, will MLB still assess CBT overage penalties? I’m guessing owners will vehemently oppose this. Every team shouldn’t reset, but MLB cannot assess monetary penalties to teams that will already have lost $10’s of millions of dollars due to a shortened season. They should just count it as an overage year with no penalties.
A 2 Million dollar+ signing bonus? There’s a ton of kids from High School who sign for a few hundred thousand dollars every single year. Why would this be any different? You certainly do not need 2 million dollars to live on to get through the minor leagues. Ya know unless you plan on playing down there til you’re 32.
Because this year, they only get paid 10% in year 1 versus the entire lump sum like the rest of the years. Agents will tell players to hold out until the system resets and gets back to normal in 2021 where they get the full bonus up front.
The proposal was 10% then 45% then another 45% next year. You can’t tell me a minor leaguer can’t make it on 20K + his minor league salary for one year. That’s not that much worse than a number of fresh college grads…The money is still owed to the players and would be paid out in 3 years. I’m thinking if you want to get paid that beats going to college and making nothing. For the hope you get a higher lump sum..
I don’t know how it works normally but if I understand him I believe he’s insinuating they should go back to school and get a similar amount next year but in a lump sum.
But HS seniors who haven’t committed to a college yet because they planned on going pro will still go pro because they will still get all of their money eventually and it beats any other option at this point
Waiting a year for a lump sum isn’t getting a lump sum today. . If they choose a non junior college it’s going to be 3 years from now. With this structure they’d get their whole bonus promised before the kids who went to a four year college could declare. This isn’t an annuity they’re offering. It’s a bonus paid out in 3 years instead of 1.
Ridiculous….Bonus Baby players would be smart to take the money. They are one injury away from losing that big bonus or falling back in the round…I would take the 3 guaranteed checks if the number was high enough…Who knows if they even make it or play another game in an mlb system?!
The reason for the differed money is to make sure that teams stay solvent in the event that the whole season is cancelled.
Anyways, the lowest slot value in a 5 round draft will be around $300k. That would equal to about $30k in year one plus their MiLB salary. I doubt that would deter many prospects who wants to forgo college for professional baseball, from doing so.
It’s the college seniors that are getting screwed in this deal.
Unless they’re granted another year of eligibility. Which the MLB May know something about.
This has already happened
The reason the bonuses are deferred is because the union negotiated for an upfront payment for MLB players and could give a crap about college players.
No MLB team would become insolvent if “forced” to actually pay their draft class even if the season is cancelled.
look it up. most guys drafted do sign. its only the high school guys in the later few rounds that dont sign, and even some of them have done so before.
This is BS lost all respect for mlb
That’s fine just stop watching baseball and stop your complaining
If there is no season Chaim bloom got Alex Verdugo, Jeter Downs, and ridded themselves of David Price’s contract for nothing. What a deal!
Woah woah.
Half of Price’s deal…Give the Dodgers some credit!
Hindsight bias
“Hindsight Bias!!!!!!!!!”
“Things that are so blatantly obvious they did not need to be said for $500, Alex”
They are paying 48 million of Price’s money. Hardly nothing.
If there is no season I feel like the mlb will have to give some sort of compensation to the teams who took one year rentals. Depending on the results of the Red Sox investigation (which appears mlb at least found something based) I wonder if an easy solution would be to give a few of the Red Sox draft picks to the dodgers. Sox get their punishment and dodgers don’t get completely screwed…
Exactly…Some compensation should be given the Dodgers and other teams in similar situations (and there are quite a few)..
Glad Preller didn’t trade for Betts then. There’s still the issue of Jurickson Profar, Zack Davies and Tommy Pham however, not to mention Fernando Tatis Jr and Chris Paddack will both have two full years of service time next November even if the season is cancelled.
I feel something is wrong by MLB if they allow the players to have a full year of service time if there’s no season, that makes no sense. This is not the fault of MLB its a natural disaster. Their service time should remain as it was for 2019. period, Teams that signed players for one yr. or two yrs. and those players can walk away and still get paid without a season doesn’t make sense.
Reverse all trades from this past offseason.
Why? It’s an “Act of God/Force Majeure” situation.
You can’t reverse operational risk! Part of owning a business!
Lol someone clearly doesn’t know how business works
Then you’d have to reverse all FA signings as well, but there is something to your madness
Wait. Am I understanding this Right? Went from 40 Rounds to 5 Rounds in draft?
These college and high school kids just lost the right to play in 2020 and get drafted all in the matter of a few weeks. Not a good call to shorten the draft.
players can be still signed as undrafted FA can they not?
Yes but they’ll only get 20k
Mookie better sign an extension
Why should he?
12/400 might do it.
what a joke no where worth it
He already turned that down. And he’d demand more now that he’s closer to FA and since the season might be cancelled there is no risk of injury or poor performance in 2020 hurting his stock.
It’s disgusting that MLB is using this as another opportunity to screw young kids coming into the game. The union agreeing and negotiating away the rights of non-members is something they should be ashamed of too. Now the vast majority of these kids will be capped at a $20k bonus for the opportunity to get paid sub-minimum wage for years and probably never make it to the majors. Last year, a kid chosen in the 30th round could get a $125k bonus without it effecting the team’s bonus pool. this year, a 6th round kid will be capped at $20k. Somebody sue MLB and the union, please.
Let’s file a class action lawsuit, Bert! We’ll be as good as Rizzoli and Isles! Franklin and Bash! With a little luck we might be as good as Harvey Specter and Mike Ross!
That’s why most players will forgo signing this year. College seniors (good ones) could spend a year in Independent ball to increase their value rather than being ‘forced’ into a $20K or $10K capped bonus. This draft will be an absolute disaster if it happens. Indy ball will never be better next season if this happens.
Indy ball salary is a joke. That’s on par with the minor leagues. You’re riding in the same type of busses and everything. I highly doubt that will become a choice for many over signing with a professional baseball team. Really wouldn’t make a lot of sense to go that route.
Maybe you’ll see kids go to Mexico, Korea etc. if they’re good enough.
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Lol didn’t mean Mexico. There’s an article on that if anyone forgot.
Agree completely. The MLBPA and MLB are screwing players who would be turning pro, and it’s sickening.
There is NO reason to shorten the draft, or to limit bonuses for players who are not drafted within five rounds. For most players, that bonus is the only real money they will ever see as they pursue the dream of playing pro baseball. It’s time to pull the anti – trust exemption for MLB.
Years ago, colleges were for learning and not prima donna’s and knuckleheads with scholarships playing sports.
Why not return to giving the brightest, most intelligent kids scholarships in the 1st place and not allowing these “athletes” at all?
I’d like to see that for all collegiate sports. Most have no business at so called higher education schools.. Then some schools I wonder with claptrap that comes out of them lately.
If not for the money generated by the athletic departments, the scholarships for the athletes would not exist.. If you take away the athletic programs, they money used to fund the athletic scholarships goes with it. Smart kiss would not have any extra scholarship money to share.
In the midst of a worldwide crisis, we can all now sleep tonight now that some of the most overpaid human beings on this earth just got pampered again. Hooray!
Think what you want, but most players are paid far less than their actual value.
I wish people would pay money to come watch me at my desk job so I could argue for a nice pay bump, but unfortunately most jobs just aren’t that entertaining.
I don’t think you know what a crisis is. A potential crisis maybe. According to the cdc’s statistics (a week old admittedly) the regular flu has killed 10% of the confirmed infected, while Corona virus has killed around 1%. For a world population something that’s killing more men than women, and much higher rates of elderly but is only 1% of infected isn’t that horrible. A week ago (when I saw it could have been earlier) someone on the news from the CDC was saying no one had an immunity to Corona…. That’s a lie. For one there’s no way he’s in a position to say that with any certainty. For two what does that accomplish except for adding fear and panic that we know is great for the immune system. I hate to ramble but you get the idea don’t believefor everything you hear.
Countries wouldn’t be quarantining and shutting down for a disease not as bad as the flu. And the corona virus has killed more than one percent in places like Italy and China.
bjupton100……
You may want to look at your figures again. The death rate of the flu is 0.1% not 10%.. If Corvid-19 is 1% (and that is considered the low end) then this virus is 10 times more deadly.
You also need to consider how many people one infected person can in turn infect on average. This is known as R naught or Ro. If a virus has an Ro below one like SARS did it will die out. Corvid-19 has an Ro of 2-3. It ain’t going away anytime soon especially if restrictions are lifted too soon……like say Easter.
The Easter line was the US being hopeful for a return, not a definite. Also a bad assumption to say the virus is 10x more deadly. You also didn’t use concrete numbers or compared the #’s based on timeline. You’re every bit as wrong as upton.
WereAllJustGuestsHere….
I never said Easter was a definite. Notice I said ” especially if “. Hopefully the person (no it was not the US being hopeful) who suggested it will listen to those much smarter than him and not rush things.
Actually I was paraphrasing Dr. Anthony Fauci who said “The flu has a mortality rate of 0.1 percent. This has a mortality rate of 10 times that.” but I am sure you know better
“You also didn’t use concrete numbers or compared the #’s based on timeline.”….What exactly are you referring to? The R naught?
BTW…you missed the fact that I said Corvid-19 when it’s Covid-19
Should I be correcting your spelling errors too?
You took your shot with the Easter comment. No need to walk it back now. Own it.
As noted, your paraphrase points out exactly what I said in my last comment. I’m sure you know that by now.
Here’s a baseball example for you, regarding numbers: Ryan Howard was the _______ fastest to ever reach 200 homeruns in a career. Yes, except he didn’t become a fulltime MLB’er until he was almost 26 years old. The point: look deeper in the numbers, which I am sure was Upton’s original point. Because, as you noted, I know better.
comma precedes ‘too’.
wake up and go outside. this *is* a crisis.
bjupton100 these guys are all believing everything they hear on the “news.” So there’s really no use trying to give them the real numbers and facts pertaining to this so-called pandemic. They’ve fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.
This is a baseball forum….Take your rants to the politics forum
I agree what a joke, I’d say at best if the season is cancelled no service time for 2020 and if there paid a salary it would be 25% of the normal season’s salary
I bet the Wilpons wished they sold when they had a chance.
The Wilpons are complete morons living on the Mets profits and league profits….They should have been booted out of MLB when they bankrupted the team “investing” with their pal Bernie Madoff.
Now, with no Mets cash flow, the Wilpons are desperate.
Their last “deal to sell the Mets” had the Wilpons keeping owership decision making and control of the Mets for 5 years?! Get Real. No one will buy the team with their cash and let the incompetent, bumbling Wilpon family run the team. That is the whole point in buying the team…rescuing Mets fans from the complete incompetence and mismanagement of the Mets by the Wilpons..
Jerry Bird you say overpaid like that’s bad. These are mlb players and I guarentee you can’t hit a curve ball but anyone with arms and legs could be trained to do our jobs in a couple months. This is why they get paid. Less then 2000 people in the world can do what they do.Nobody ever paid to come see me do my job.
stop feeling sorry for the players they’ll make more in one yr then you’ll do in a lifetime, they have to pay the price in this situation
There’s no way Mlb can open the season games to the public anytime soon. Any chance of saving the season- figure out how to test players and personal quicker and start playing games in empty stadiums. Who’s not gonna watch a ton of baseball right now ?? The whole country could rally behind the sport…..
MLB will surely use this situation to eliminate a ton of minor league teams as recently proposed. 35 less rounds is a whole team or more of players each franchise won’t have.
You don’t think MLB has gotten access to test while the rest of us go with out? The Yankees wouldn’t confirm they got any test except the one their minor league player tested positive with, then another posative test so either they’re 2-2 or they’ve had more tests.
MLB can’t start season if there is a 3 day turn around on test results like there is now. That means players/personnel can walk around w it for 3 days waiting on results. Results need to be more instant or within a few hours so they only put clean players out there
They are bringing a test that shows in 45 minutes if they have the virus, it will be out in two weeks
They could also eliminate a lot of long term fans with stupid actions that show the world they are just a**h****
Why does this shock anybody or why do some folks think there’s a way to salvage things or are mad at the sport or hope these private citizens with families and a life outside the sport would risk that life so we can watch them whiff 67% of the time and just have a “past time”. I get that anybody who is looking forward to a healthy or massive salary and could use the money will be stressed. But we are all in the same boat.
I doubt anybody in the mlb or their crews want to put their lives at risk for our entertainment. I know I don’t want them to.
I’m extremely glad they’re canceling the season at this point, under the circumstances. It was and is the right and only thing to do.
No one is forcing anyone to play. Make your own choice. If there is live time testing then the safety aspect is there.
Also less than .001% of population has covid. And mlb hasn’t cancelled the season. Stop living in fear. It’s a very low quality of life
We have no idea what % of the population has COVID-19. The extent of the testing has been pathetically anemic. The number of cases are increasing by 15,000 per day. If we had the test kits the numbers would be far greater.
The choice we all make effects others, not just yourself. That figure you’ve thrown out is wild speculation at best. I’m not living in fear. I want our elders, susceptible people, and healthcare workers to live. If that’s an inconvenience to you, then you are living a low qaultiy life.
No mention if the short season leagues will play.
I doubt Kroger employees want to risk their lives to put stuff on shelves but they do for minimum. I didn’t know they’d cancelled it but it would be silly. They could still keep the season and just play w/out fans for a month or so. It might be over 50 people total but they could all keep comfortable distances. Why isn’t there enough tests? How do we still not have enough.
yeah, not a fan of anything theyre doing here with the draft. 5 rounds? they do need more than 5 guys to fill out their minor league rosters, you know. and what about teams that lost picks due to comp reasons. the 3% thing is also a terribly petty and cheap decision. you cant pay the guys 3% more because you havent seen them play this year? terrible, downright terrible.
If Boras takes a smaller percentage off the signing bonus his clients would’ve receive a bigger cut.
he is an advisor to the amateuer draftees not agents.
Boras still would get a percentage of the contract.. If there is no season or a very limited season, revenue will be greatly reduced. Boras still wants the teams to pay as though they would have received their normal revenue.
as an adviser he gets paid small fees but not percentages of signing bonus. an adviser can help the players or their families but not contact any mlb teams on behalf for the players..
You are partly correct. If a player is considering going to college or returning to college if drafted., then you are correct, that Boras would be considered and adviser and there for can only advise him on contract language but can not negotiate a contract. However, if the draftee decides that they are not going to school or returning to school, the player can higher Boras as an agent to negotiate the deal. Just depends if the kid is looking to retain NCAA eligibility or not.
Boras lies and cheats he’s a sad example for a rep
If there is no 2020 season how are draft position decisions made in 2021?
there will be a 2020 season so this shouldn’t be a concern
Don’t know that yet.
Based on 2019 record if all else fails. Just like if there is no 2020 season players get service time based off 2019.
That is not right bad idea by MLB
The MLBPA “acquiesced on draftees signing bonuses”…..as if the MLBPA ever gave a poop about new players…why should they, new players represent job competition…..the whole notion that they should care is silly…
Even Miller would have a laugh at that one…union members bargaining away rights of non-union members, specifically potential union members….
it is funny to hear that the players already earning money sacrificed something that affects them naught. it makes sense for it to be the MLBPA, but in saying it was the players it is even more ridiculous.
Desirable franchises (Yankees, Dodgers, etc.) are going to be able to load up on round 6-10 talent for $20k a pop.
Doubt it.
Unless you have a bad agent you go elsewhere for a year, or two.
Japan Korea and most other international league will pay more than 20k, guaranteed.
You sign for say 1 year or 2 year. 100k, 500k 1 mill 3 mill. You will lure some high end talent for a year or 2.
They can always return to school as NCAA ruled so. But the wise move if you’re in college as a sophomore junior or senior and get undrafted would be go over seas, make cash, come back over after max 3 years, sign with whomever.
I would prefer to go to a rebuilding team or one that has little depth at my position. What’s the point of being buried behind some big names?
You talk as if playing baseball is so GD important. How many lives will baseball players save? It’s just entertainment, and it is getting worse, but more expensive every year. I’m just saying they should be grateful for getting paid ANY amount for a kids game. Hitting a curve ball nowadays doesn’t seem to be as possible as in the past. Watching MLB is like watching slo-pitch softball. The exception is home runs and of ton of strike outs compared to home runs and fly outs. At least softball players can make contact. MLB gives us seriously boring entertainment for hours at a time. Wake me up when there is some real talent, worthy of today’s salaries, shows up. Sorry, I need to stop typing, I need another Tommy John surgery. Just make the paycheck out to Jerry Bird, entertainer.
Why are you even on this site? I don’t like the product of the NFL or WWE anymore, but I’m not going to spend on my time on a site dedicated to it complaining about it. If you don’t like it, don’t watch.
If I want to express my thoughts on baseball, it is my right. Though it may appear I do not like baseball, nothing could be further from the truth. Today’s sports is comprised of greedy individuals; owners, players and agents. With so much going on in the world today, should they not combine their efforts for a greater cause? The current negotiations will be meaningless if the virus controls the world, yet pro sports is concentrating on themselves.
I feel bad for the MiLB players, but they aren’t the only ones out of work. Have you seen what is happening to the every day Joe? Even MiLB’s own kind (MLBPA) have stabbed them in the back. How’s that for a caring and loving union?
Why must EVERYTHING fall on the shoulders of the owners? MLB players, overall, are spoiled rotten children and it angers me that they prefer to concentrate on their petty union matters.
When\if the dust settles, then let the millionaires of baseball cry for more money. How about they concentrate on a better product? All games are a simple home run derby. Being a fan of baseball, I miss real baseball. Today, we get a watered down version of baseball with players providing a product that is slow and boring. It appears to me to be a minimal effort at best. Yes sir, I pay a chuck of change from my comparatively sorry paycheck for this current day crap. It is indeed my right to complain. If you buy a bottle of wine and it turns out to be water, I’d bet you would complain. This is what baseball is providing to me, water! If YOU don’t like this, don’t read it. Turn your blind eye.
Woah woah woah… My friend…the MLBPA has never been the minor leaguers “own kind” – They have always been foe
Owners get 99% of the heat for the mis-treatment of minor leaguers when in fact the MLBPA is right there with them incahoots
I stand corrected. Thank you, sir. Just shows you the kind of bastards the MLBPA really are.
wait so if all salaries are prorated, doesn’t that reset everyone’s luxury tax?
They will prorate the CBT too, but they should not assess penalties to team that are over. Just count it as an overage year but with no monetary penalties attached.
Scott Boras needs to shut up. He thinks it’s “unconscionable” that the owners are using this pandemic to keep signing bonuses down, but he is using this pandemic to get on a higher soap box to push his agenda.
He is a great for his clients, and all players I guess, but sometimes he needs to take a break. This would be one of those times.
Beersy… everybody in baseball is going for the financial advantage. It’s just human nature, I’m afraid. Boras is just setting the table for himself. He is bad for baseball.
MLB really messed up here.
If I’m a college kid id be looking into signing a deal with Japan Korea or some other league where you’ll make 100x more than 20k, hell more than you’d get if you were drafted or went back to school most likely.
Sign a 2 or 3 year deal, which could put you past eligibility rules and you sign with any team you want once you’re stint in Japan or Korea is over.
only problem is those teams have limits on the number of foreign players they can have on their teams. sure it’s a better route for the round 6 talent, anyone beyond there wolnt have a spot.
KBO has 10 teams. 3 players per team. 30 players can go there.
NPB has 12 teams. 4 players per team. 48 players can go there.
Europe has 18 leagues. China and Philippines has leagues. Korea and Japan have 2 independent leagues each aside from ones mentioned.
Plus USA has 7 independent leagues.
I’m sure many of those leagues would offer more than 20k max for American born talent.
More so. You sign away 1 year or 2 vs however many years you sign away signing with the mlb.
Hopefully the NCAA will grant an extra year of eligibility for draft-worry seniors who missed out on this season. That would solve a lot of the problems right there. If not, I agree 100% they should look elsewhere for a year or two, especially if they don’t get drafted in this shortened draft. No talented player should sign a FA deal for $20K. That is just bad business.
when you factor in comp picks and competitive balance picks, you’re going to get “small market teams” making 2× the picks that some other team does, while the team that lost the comp pick doesnt even get the full year of the player they lost the pick for. lame.
no season, all trades will be nullified
They won’t undo trades, but they could give extra draft pick compensation for the teams who were affected.
One extra draft pick for every trade the team made, the draft picks would begin in the third round
@slide
Absurd
My whole point about the 5 round draft is this: any prospect who was projected to be drafted in Rounds 6-15+ would be stupid to sign this year as a free agent for $20K. 6th round picks’ average slot value is around $275K. 10th round picks are around $145K on average. 15th round is around $90K+. So if prospects are not drafted in Rounds 1-5, then they should look elsewhere for one year, whether that be Junior College for HS players, staying in college for draft eligible sophomores & juniors and overseas or even Indy ball for college seniors. For a majority of these kids, their signing bonus is the biggest payday they will ever see from baseball, so they should not sell themselves short for a mere $20K. Put off the decision for another year when the league and the draft get back to normal. This draft will be a complete joke outside of the Top 5 rounds. I hope they decide to increase it to at least 15 rounds so teams have a shot at signing decent prospects and the kids have an opportunity to get paid a fair amount; as they all get screwed in MiLB when it comes to salaries. Only marginal players are going to sign for $20K, 90%+ of whom will never make it to the majors.
This is sooooooooo stupid
If the players get paid for not playing how about all the emp’s of businesses that had to shut down, restaurants, theatres, most main street businesses, most retail businesses, etc. Those emp’s are not being paid, sad. 50% of baseball players make more in one yr. then the ave. family makes in a lifetime and the union for these players demand they get paid, that’s insane. This is the time for MLB to start the baseball strike and stop kowtowing to the union and MLBPA demands.
I would be very surprised if there is baseball this year, and from someone who’s watched baseball for 55 yrs. it really doesn’t matter to me. They should not get paid either, period.