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Buster Posey Opts Out Of 2020 Season

By Steve Adams | July 10, 2020 at 11:09am CDT

Giants catcher Buster Posey has decided to opt out of the 2020 season, he announced in a Zoom call with reporters today. Posey explained that he and his wife have adopted twin girls who were born prematurely at 32 weeks. They’re in stable condition but will be in the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit for the time being. Both manager Gabe Kapler and president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi have voiced full support of Posey in his decision.

“With these babies being as fragile as they are, for the next four months at minimum,” Posey said, the decision was easy from a family perspective. The former NL Rookie of the Year and MVP acknowledged that from a pure baseball standpoint, the decision to sit the season out did weigh on him, but he feels strongly that he’s making the best decision for his family. Posey had been absent from Giants Summer Camp for the past two days.

Though Posey himself is not a high-risk individual, his decision serves as yet another reminder that there’s far more to consider than individual well-being when it comes to the current pandemic. We’ve seen many players with family decisions grapple with the same issues that Posey articulately described in his announcement. Ryan Zimmerman was the first such player to opt out with those concerns in mind, but Posey now becomes the tenth veteran to do so. Others, including Sean Doolittle and Mike Trout, have voiced some reservation about playing due to concerns within their own families.

Because Posey himself isn’t high-risk, he won’t receive service time in 2020 and won’t be paid the prorated version of his $21.4MM salary (roughly $7.9MM). His absence will leave a sizable hole in the team’s clubhouse — a fact that both Zaidi and Kapler have emphasized — and will also leave the Giants severely thin behind the plate. Presumptive backup Aramis Garcia had hip surgery that could sideline him all season, and the only other catchers in the organization who have called a big league game are Rob Brantly and Tyler Heineman.

It’s true that the Giants have one of MLB’s best catching prospects, 2018 No. 2 overall pick Joey Bart, but he’s yet to play a game above Double-A (where he played in just 22 games last season). Posey’s absence could certainly open the door for Bart, but Zaidi also cautioned against expecting Bart to be thrust into a starring role (Twitter link via Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic): “This is a tough environment to evaluate young position players when you went in thinking they needed more competitive reps at Double-A or Triple-A.”

The Giants will add another catcher to their player pool, Zaidi continued (via the San Francisco Chronicle’s John Shea), be it an external acquisition or a promotion from within the Giants’ ranks. There aren’t many free agents of note who have gone unsigned. Russell Martin is a notable exception and was said to be seeking a team back in February, though it’s possible that what has transpired since has altered his plans. Veteran Jesus Sucre also went unsigned this winter, and the Dodgers recently cut Jose Lobaton loose. Given the thin supply in free agency, the Giants could simply stay in-house or look into acquiring a non-roster veteran who is in camp with another club.

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  1. BK Blake

    5 years ago

    That’s a big one. Wish him and his family all the best!

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    • Francys01

      5 years ago

      I miss Posey that he will not be playing. I understand why he decided not to play. The Giants will have difficult schedule, but let see if they play well. Good luck Giants.

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  2. kreckert

    5 years ago

    Props to him for knowing what’s really important (*Hint* it’s not baseball.)

    And congratulations to him and his growing family.

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    • Hard to walk with four balls

      5 years ago

      No way dude. Baseball is 100% most important.

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    • liljoe12

      5 years ago

      Actually baseball is equally if not of greater importance. Our country is being ripped apart by political protests and economic devastation. Throughout American history we have turned to baseball for healing…the national pasttime. Time for these players to step up and sacrifice by playing a child’s game, just as doctors and nurses sacrifice as tbey expose themselves and thwir families on a daily basis to treat others.

      If ted williams could sign up for the draft in ww2 and korea, posey and trout can play during a strong flu season…imo

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      • capnfatback

        5 years ago

        Our country is being ripped apart by a complete mishandling of a highly contagious, highly deadly virus, first and foremost. The protests are a symptom of the issues, not the issues itself. The doctors and nurses would prefer no one expose themselves for trivial reasons. And the Williams comp makes no sense, as Williams STOPPPED playing baseball to fight what what he perceives was a threat (which, by the way, is what Posey is doing).

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      • danpartridge

        5 years ago

        Risking your life to play baseball /=/ risking your life to protect your country in a time of war.

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        • cubsnomore

          5 years ago

          Then start an amateur league in your home town. Be a hero.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        5 years ago

        So players should be obligated to play a children’s game for the sake of your entertainment and distraction from reality while putting their own high-risk family members. Those are some big Karen statements you made.

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        • kreckert

          5 years ago

          The next argument will be that Buster doesn’t have to put his family in danger. He could just stay away from them.

          But somehow for us to ask a baseball player to miss the first 3 or 4 months of his children’s lives, even if those children are not premature, in order to–and I quote–entertain and distract us, is preposterous.

          I just don’t get it. If you need a hole to crawl into that badly, turn the news off and find an old game to watch. The networks are full of them. But when you make the case that these players are obligated to risk not only their own health and safety, but the health, safety, and stability of their families you are showing yourself to be stunningly selfish and entitled. And while you certainly have a point that every American has the obligation to serve their country when called upon in crisis, playing a kids game absolutely does not qualify as obligatory national service.

          Put simply, nowhere in the Constitution, nor in any local, state, or federal law, does it say that you have a right to expect other people, regardless of their jobs or talents, to entertain you. Just because you want baseball to be your institution of national healing, doesn’t mean it’s obligated to do so, nor that you have any right whatsoever to expect or demand it.

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      • live42day

        5 years ago

        I see you are a very selfish person. If i were Posey I wouldn’t play either.
        It’s his job. If he wants to take a leave of absence from his job to take care of his family it is his right. If his boss wants to fire him then he can. Life>work

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      • JasonT

        5 years ago

        Posey has 2 fragile babies to think of. Baseball means nothing in comparison. Our need to see it means nothing in comparison. I wish more people understood the fragility of life when making decisions around this horrible disease and didn’t play around like it’s a “strong flu” or not a big deal. There’s no respawn. When people get sick there’s a real chance that they die, give it to someone else, or suffer long-lasting effects. We know there are 130,000 deaths in the US and rising but how about those who are still sick? How many lost dreams, broken families, lost businesses and careers? The layers of carnage from this thing are still being discovered.

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  3. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    hard to argue with that. best wishes for the kids.

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    • CowboysoldierFTW

      5 years ago

      Agreed. My respect for him just grew.

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      • CursedRangers

        5 years ago

        Same here. He’s made enough in his lifetime. Leaving that much on the table to take care of his wife and kiddos says everything you need to know about him. Big time respect – coming from a Rangers fan.

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  4. giantsfan1976 2

    5 years ago

    All aboard the BART train!

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    • pustule bosey

      5 years ago

      I assume bart will still be the backup behind heinneman unless he blows up when he comes up – but it does mean if they wanted to give bailey reps they could add him

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      • oldmansteve

        5 years ago

        If Bart is on the roster he will be playing. No point in wasting service time on a top prospect to sit on a bench for a team who probably wont be competitive anyway.

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        • Howie415

          5 years ago

          He already is.

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        • Stevil

          5 years ago

          Bart isn’t on the 40, he won’t be rule-5 eligible, and he just got to AA.

          There is no reason to rush him and I doubt they will.

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        • wild bill tetley

          5 years ago

          “Joey, listen, we’re going to add you to the 40-man and bring you up around Game 10. You will play. Enjoy the moment, learn, work hard, and you will start in AAA next year. Perform and we’ll make room for you.”

          He’s not going to play games in the minors, so why not bring him up? This would not be a rush job; it would be an on-the-job experience with clear plans and intentions moving forward. That experience would be tremendous.

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        • Howie415

          5 years ago

          He tore up the Fall league. They were already planning to bring him up. They have nobody else.

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        • Stevil

          5 years ago

          Because he’s on the taxi squad where he’ll still get some work/experience, he just made it to AA last season, and he wasn’t likely going to be promoted before September at the earliest, and 2021 was probably more likely.

          If you need a comparative, look at Seattle with Cal Raleigh. He actually had more PA’s at AA than Bart, but they’re the same age and out of the same draft. He’s expected to stay on their taxi squad. Bart should as well.

          Would it really make sense to start the clock, burn a year of service time, and then burn an option year next year? Without Posey, their chances at contention just got slimmer. Finding a stop-gap veteran makes a lot more sense here. Bart only played in 22 games above A-ball last year.

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        • pustule bosey

          5 years ago

          if you think you are going to have anyone in the majors next year it makes sense to start the service clock, remember this would be like an august callup not a day 1

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        • Stevil

          5 years ago

          He wasn’t likely going to be called up in August.

          I would hate to see him become the next Zunino.

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        • jpm9q3

          5 years ago

          Y’all tripping. He’ll be up the day the Giants get another year of service time (allowing them to control him through his age 30 season, which is perfectly fine for a catcher). Since service time is prorated, that should be around August 1. Once he’s up, he’ll be starting. Hopefully, Buster will be available on FaceTime to mentor him still.

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        • wild bill tetley

          5 years ago

          Exactly my point. I don’t think I was tripping on my assessment of Bart coming up. Stevil does not grasp this concept.

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        • Howie415

          5 years ago

          The Fall league proved he is past AA.

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        • Stevil

          5 years ago

          Bill, you should quit with the insults and give it more thought.

          MLB service time is not equal to minor-league experience and development. We’re talking about a guy who had just arrived at AA. The reality is he is highly unlikely to be productive and they’re still going to need a veteran, regardless.

          The risk and expense doesn’t equal the potential reward.

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        • Stevil

          5 years ago

          Nobody’s ‘tripping’. Some of us are simply more cautious and understand that there is incredible risk with players that have almost no experience in the upper-minors.

          I want to see Bart reach his ceiling. I said the same thing about Mike Zunino.

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        • wild bill tetley

          5 years ago

          That wasn’t an insult. That was a fact.

          You wait the 7 days and gain that extra year of control. Play him 35-40 games instead of the ZERO he would play in 2020 thanks to a wipeout of minor league baseball. If he embarrasses himself you stash him in the minors in 2021. This is very simple. Grasp concept, not an insult.

          Players have done the AA jump before. Fail or succeed, this is the perfect time to test Bart while maintaining the team control. He will be better for it.

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        • Howie415

          5 years ago

          Cal…Whatever is not comparable to Joey Bart. Bart would start at Sacramento, if there was a season.

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        • Stevil

          5 years ago

          Facts involve documented proof; evidence… which I’ve offered and you’ve ignored.

          You’re assuming I don’t understand the counter-arguments. I do, but I disagree and I’ve already laid out reasoning with… (wait for it)…. facts.

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        • wild bill tetley

          5 years ago

          Facts is something we are still waiting for from you, agreed. As I said, wait a week and gain the extra year of control. No different than Bart starting in 2021 on Opening Day. This is how you offer a fact. You didn’t.

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    • Afk711

      5 years ago

      If Joey Bart is not the Giants starting C for 2020 they should be sued for negligence.

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  5. A'sfaninLondonUK

    5 years ago

    What a top bloke. And his lady wife of course.Hope time will be a great healer & it helps him to return to his best after the more recent injuries Well, all the injuries, but you get what I mean I hope.

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  6. racosun

    5 years ago

    Understandable.

    Joey Bart’s chance?

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    • A'sfaninLondonUK

      5 years ago

      Yeah, was thinking about that. But if the universal DH happens there’s a platoon of him – and then it depends if either Panda, Pence, extend, Longoria (who is contracted to 2022 no?) and Bart as a DH on his off days.

      This might actually kickstart Bart’s career and help extend Buster’s career in a way – and they could do with a career 300 hitter any day of the week – who couldn’t?

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    • jpm9q3

      5 years ago

      Bart will be up on Aug 1. We know how the service time game is won. If Farhan thinks service time will be severely altered by next CBA, he could be starting C on OD.

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  7. stephaniebpetagno

    5 years ago

    I really doubt, given the handling of the Coronavirus nationwide, that there will be any baseball played this season.

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Did you watch MLB Now yesterday? Players are going to be tested every day. MLB converted a lab for baseball testing only.

      If players are smart, they are as safe as anyone who isn’t already self isolating.

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      • brandons-3

        5 years ago

        That’s the rub. It’s unreasonable to expect or even assume all players, umpires, coaches and staffers are going to be safe and strict about it. Not only them, but you’re also asking all of their family members to similarly follow strict safety guidelines.

        The question is no longer “How can we prevent COVID-19” but “What level of coronavirus are we comfortable with living at?” They’ll be positive cases, but if there’s a big breakout then the season will be stopped dead.

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        • arc89

          5 years ago

          baseball of all sports has the least amount of contact. What i find strange is the NBA who has the most personal contact thinks they can restart the season. Now to me that is crazy. NFL the players have pads and uniforms covering most of their body.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          It’s a daily test. With daily results.

          Unless a person is self isolating, that’s about as safe as safe can be.

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        • danpartridge

          5 years ago

          I get that focus on the NBA, but since COVID-19 is most frequently passed through respiratory droplets, I’d think the NFL is equally susceptible to outbreaks. More players and staff, too, heightening the odds of localized infections spreading.

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        • ThePeople'sElbow

          5 years ago

          do you know how germs spread? pads and uniforms don’t protect you from germs.

          it’s almost like people don’t understand how science works.

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        • liljoe12

          5 years ago

          Little evidence to support this. Lockdowns amd isolation work to prevent an infection from initiating. Once a virus is in a population there isnt much you can do ezcept let it run its course. This used to be common knowledge but hey theres an election to win so…

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        • danpartridge

          5 years ago

          Nah. Isolating cases and contact tracing does a good job of stopping the spread, along with hygiene and masking. If your scenario were the case, you wouldn’t see infections decreasing in places like South Korea, Germany, and Italy, along with China.

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        • liljoe12

          5 years ago

          Right. It’s like all those other zero times in history where we isolated healthy people from each other to prevent the spread of a virus. Totally stops the spread. China is virus free i heard….

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    • knowitall69

      5 years ago

      yeah, no NFL season either most likely. the season is right in the middle of flu season and covid will be even worse. RIP NFL

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    • njbirdsfan

      5 years ago

      It’s almost like a game to see how many people we can get infected.

      Like if I wanted to lose weight and refused to exercise or eat better, that’s how “well” this is going. But you know, masks are stupid.

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    • bestno5

      5 years ago

      Soccer around the word has gone on just fine…..they are closer and in contact with more ppl on the field. Baseball players have a lot of natural social distancing other than in the dugout which won’t be used

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      • MWeller77

        5 years ago

        I’m hoping that we can both have a 2020 season and player safety. However, I don’t think you can really compare soccer in Germany, Spain, the UK, and Italy to sports in the U.S, as those countries have lower new infection rates (not only in total, which would be misleading due to the U.S. having a massively larger population, but also when expressed as a percentage of the population).

        A better comparison might be the NWSL. The NWSL has done well, but unlike baseball, they are playing all their games in two stadiums in one metro area (all but 3 games in the Salt Lake City suburb Harriman; the other stadium is in SLC suburb Sandy), and the league has only 8 teams.

        So while soccer is certainly more contact-based than baseball, it’s not clear that soccer provides a meaningful comparison.

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    • Afk711

      5 years ago

      Sure. T minus 2 weeks until opening day. Less than 2 percent tested positive. Even with the testing mishap the players have proven to be responsible. But sure in less than 2 weeks its going to spike out of control and they will cancel it. Exhibition games in 9 days! Baseball will be played in 2020.

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  8. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    5 years ago

    Posey properly prioritizes parenting.

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    • gobbledeez

      5 years ago

      You spit on me, man…

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    • kwolf68

      5 years ago

      Not every person can “prioritize” such as this. Good for him, but life goes on, for many people not in the financial position to simply NOT show up for work. That’s the beauty of being rich, you have the resources to enjoy the splendor of our planet, you can enclose yourself behind walls with similar social strata of people AND you can make decisions that reduce getting a disease. I hold no ill will toward Buster or anyone else of the means to make these decisions, but lets not give them medals of honor either.

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      • retire21

        5 years ago

        Perfection

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        5 years ago

        Well put.

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      • Epstein is Altuve’s father

        5 years ago

        @kwolf you are spot on. Ellen sits in her mansion and tells broke ppl to stay in. The rich have the luxury to do that. I don’t feel it’s a moral obligation. You can keep your morals and also lose your job or get your car repossessed. That’s not to say it’s not serious, but some don’t have the option. We lost a ton of work and I have to do whatever I can just to make it by.

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  9. WiffleBall

    5 years ago

    Good for him for making the right decision for his family; for what’s really important.

    Though I think it’s important to note that NO player needs to explain their choice to opt out.

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    • stymeedone

      5 years ago

      Easier decision to make when your team is not expected to contend, and you are already signed for next year.

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  10. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    cmon man. not remotely funny or appropriate.

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    • A'sfaninLondonUK

      5 years ago

      Darkside (I think you might have had a tough Friday already) – think @forwhomjoshbelltolls (please pick a shorter name next time) is agreeing with the point but with some smirky alliteration. Nothing more….nothing wrong

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      • DarkSide830

        5 years ago

        i dont think you saw the previous comment. the comment i replied to was deleted

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  11. Halo11Fan

    5 years ago

    In my opinion he is making the right decision.

    Who gets this virus is more important than how many get this. Since he is in contact with the vulnerable, he should opt out.

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  12. ScottCFA

    5 years ago

    Everybody has to make their own decisions about how much risk to take. Not all of us can stay inside for a year to wait this thing out, but we don’t have to be reckless either. In Posey’s case, not that he owes us an explanation, sitting out the season makes perfect sense.

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Oh my goodness..
      ” Not all of us can stay inside for a year to wait this thing out, but we don’t have to be reckless either.”

      Who would have expected sanity on a public forum?

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    • bestno5

      5 years ago

      That’s how we are viewing this thing. Life must go on but you need to take precautions and make you own decisions that beat suit your family

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      • bestno5

        5 years ago

        Best*

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        • Epstein is Altuve’s father

          5 years ago

          Glad you fixed your comment. I thought you were advocating beating your family for a second there my guy.

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  13. pato349

    5 years ago

    One if the beat Giants to ever live. If he ne er plays another game in a Giants uniform he will still be a top 5 giant for all time in my book

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    • ThePeople'sElbow

      5 years ago

      top 5? I dunno. perhaps you just have recency bias.

      Mays
      Bonds
      Mccovey
      Marichal
      then in no particular order
      Will Clark
      Jason Schmidt
      Matt Cain
      Madison Bumgarner

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      • MWeller77

        5 years ago

        Jeff Kent
        Chili Davis
        Jeff Leonard
        Dan Gladden
        Robbie Thompson
        Mike Krukow
        Johnnie LeMaster

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          Ok, I really just wanted to make a Johnnie LeMaster joke, but Christy Matthewson also pitched for the Giants. He was pretty good.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        5 years ago

        Mel Ott???

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      • Lanidrac

        5 years ago

        Orlando Cepeda?

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      • Epstein is Altuve’s father

        5 years ago

        No no no guys….. we all know Barry zito was the greatest giant ever.

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    • kje76

      5 years ago

      I would suggest more like top 10-15 of the SF Giants, not all time. He’s been very good, but he doesn’t have the numbers or talent to pass the top tier, and the longevity to quite make it into the second tier,

      I respect the passion, though.

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  14. The Human Toilet

    5 years ago

    Very smart move by Posey. Family first!

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  15. biffpocoroba

    5 years ago

    I’m not sure the Giants would pull up Bart for a shortened season and start his clock, which for him matters less than others since he’ll be here nonetheless. They’re more likely to cobble together the catching duties from the pool Zaidi assembled in the offseason.

    As for the team’s chances in a shortened season, those just took a mortal hit. With no Vogt and now no Posey, there will be no experienced catcher to handle a staff with a good deal of turnover since last season.

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    • pustule bosey

      5 years ago

      they have already talked about giving him and other reps this season – trading service time for development since there is no minor league season. If he performs they may try to do an early extension like they did with bumgarner

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    • Baseball 1600

      5 years ago

      I don’t think the Giants really care about the service time. If Bart does well in SF and the fans love him, he will get extended just as Belt, Crawford, Posey, Pence did in their prime. They aren’t a small market team.

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    • Epstein is Altuve’s father

      5 years ago

      Guys ….. All this Bart talk….. I wanna see what this guy is all about….. Bart, my guy! If your out there listening in, come up and show me what you got there guy ….. otherwise you will be playing in guy-Ana before you know it my guy. You gotta see how many times you can throw a guy in there guys.

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  16. talking baseball

    5 years ago

    Buster, Be safe at home ⚾️

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  17. 2020WorldChampions

    5 years ago

    Placing the health of you and your family ahead of playing 60 games for one of the worst teams in MLB is a ‘No Brainer’ . Posey clearly did the right thing here.

    As far it’s effect on Baseball for the Giants? Surprisingly minimal. Posey can’t hit anymore.. Which is clear given his numbers at the plate and his subsequent 0.9 WAR last year. Some of the dumb homer SF baseball scribes and fans will scream that the team will miss his leadership. I would argue that after posting three straight back to back below .500 losing seasons, His leadership is probably overrated and it clearly doesn’t have an effect on the Win /Loss column.

    Bart: Low IQ Fans need to stop yelling BART. Understand this, Bart isn’t even close to being ready to play at this level. Dude has only played in like 25 AA games.Lol. MLB pitching will eat him Alive.
    Bart is a Blue Chip prospect. And they value the potential Bat more than the glove. From a developmental standpoint, you NEVER put a blue chip prospect in a position where he can Fail. You don’t do that to his confidence. Organizationally, The Giants have WAY too much tied up in him as a future player or as an asset for potential trades. You put him in a position to Fail, and if he does, not only is his confidence weakened, his stock as a trade chip plummets

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      I agree on Bart. He’s a future stud, but he’s not ready yet. His time will come, maybe as soon as next year.

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      • pustule bosey

        5 years ago

        if you are going to bring him next year you might as well start his clock, I mean if you would have done him as a sept callup the short season is pretty much the same.

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        • 2020WorldChampions

          5 years ago

          No, it’s not. The is No minor league season this year., that would normally proceed any Sort of Call up

          So, The Giants lose a year of development w/Bart.. He’s here now to catch bullpens and hang out and observe how MLB players go about it. That’s it. Because of the lost minor league year, Most teams are doing that with their top prospects. It’s way to salvage some kind of training. Even if it’s just observational.

          Baseball is about Reps and gradual development. 25 games at AA ball isn’t enough for Bart. Furthermore, He’ll need another year of reps / AB’s in the Minor leagues before you’ll see him at Oracle. Think 2022

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        • Howie415

          5 years ago

          Wrong. He’s done with AA. The Fall league proved that. With a full season, he would have started at Sacramento. They were planning to call him up at mid season. Besides, they don’t have anybody to replace Posey.

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      • Epstein is Altuve’s father

        5 years ago

        I been hearing about this Bart guy for a while now. I’m itching to see what this guys got. Hopefully he’s the guy all the other guys keep saying he is.

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    • Howie415

      5 years ago

      You saw him play in Richmond? He is already on the 60 man roster. They were already doing to play him. Why do you want to trade him?

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      • geotheo

        5 years ago

        The fact that Bart is on the 60 man roster doesn’t mean he would be playing for the Giants this year. Lots of teams are putting top prospects on their summer camp rosters so they can work out in a supervised setting. Service clock doesn’t start until they are on the active roster. The Giants are going to piece together catchers this year and Bart won’t see the field. At least during a game

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    • Pete'sView

      5 years ago

      The only thing I’d disagree with you about is that Posey—despite the weak bat—is still one of the top defensive catchers in baseball, and would absolutely help the team’s pitching staff. Nevertheless, I absolutely support Posey (and any player) who chooses the health of himself and his family over playing a game—no matter how much I’ll miss seeing him. I think playing a season this year (and maybe next) is madness.

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    • retire21

      5 years ago

      Dubs, I’m from Pittsburgh but if they’re yelling “BART!” perhaps they are hailing a subway?

      Reply
  18. johndietz

    5 years ago

    A no brainer. Best wishes to all of them.

    Reply
  19. bradcarlz

    5 years ago

    Gonna be sad to see Buster not in the 2020 season but the decision is understandable.

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  20. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    5 years ago

    Obviously, it’s his decision. Were it me, though, I’d go 3 months without seeing my family. I know he’s already loaded and doesn’t need the extra $8M, but for 3 months of work, I could help hundreds of people. Hundreds vs 2 is easy math.

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    • pplama

      5 years ago

      He does.
      BP28 Cancer fund.

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    • stephaniebpetagno

      5 years ago

      You’d go three months without seeing two prematurely born twins?

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      • Halo11Fan

        5 years ago

        I can understand how someone doesn’t want to abandon his wife during that period.

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      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        5 years ago

        For the reason I listed, yes, I would.

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Can you handle three months away from your family?

      Mike Trout is going back home next month for the birth of his child. He should charter a plane, because he’s at much greater risk contracting the virus and spreading the virus on his way home than he is of catching the virus in the clubhouse and then going back home and spreading the virus.

      Since Trout will likely miss two or three weeks for the birth of his child, maybe he should just opt out.

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      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        5 years ago

        I’m not saying it’d be easy, but to be able to help that many more people, yes, I’d go three months without seeing my family. I understand that other people feel differently and that’s their right, but I stand by what I said.

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      You got your math wrong. You compare 100’s to 2 people with no regard that those 2 are his Children. Premature infants. Not the same at all

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  21. pplama

    5 years ago

    Wow

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  22. jetup12

    5 years ago

    Best decision for his family. Good man.

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  23. nats3256

    5 years ago

    Your family is always #1.

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  24. clrrogers 2

    5 years ago

    Tough loss for the Giants but definitely the right decision for Posey and his family.

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  25. toooldtocare

    5 years ago

    Good for Buster and his family. He really appears to be one of the really nice guys in baseball.

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  26. sascoach2003

    5 years ago

    I applaud Posey for seeing the big picture and absolutely prioritizing family first. I would assume this means Brantley will get the lions share of ABs, being a lefthanded hitter, in a platoon. There are A LOT worse options.

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  27. WideWorldofSports

    5 years ago

    Good family decision by Posey and also the Giants are in the words of Charles Barkley turrible

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    • semut

      5 years ago

      Why would that be terrible for the giants? They lose the ability to hit singles with 2-outs and no one on base?

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  28. InvalidUserID 2

    5 years ago

    Family first, can’t blame anyone for that.

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  29. hansel2525

    5 years ago

    Next man up. Big opportunity for someone.

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  30. gdjohnson

    5 years ago

    As far as I know, every player that has opted out has been a NL player.

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  31. Baseball 1600

    5 years ago

    Posey is one of my all time favorites, sad to miss a year of him playing but very understandable decision. Giants will likely not be contending this year, so seeing Bart take is place is exciting.

    Reply
  32. solaris602

    5 years ago

    Giants are going nowhere this season which will be a short one with no minors play any way. Perfect time to give at least 2/3 of the games to Bart, and get him some experience.

    Reply
  33. simonabd

    5 years ago

    What does “service time” mean for a player that has already gone through free agency?

    No accumulating service time results in his current contract now expiring a year after it would have originally? Or is more for things like 10-5 rights?

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    • ImAdude

      5 years ago

      Biggest service time goal is 10 years. That fully vests a player in the MLB Pension.

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    • geotheo

      5 years ago

      Service time pertains to their pension. Contract will run out when it runs out. Players who opt out are placed on the restricted list. They won’t count against the 40 man roster. If a player had 10-5 status , they keep it.Zimmerman and Markakis were on one year contracts, so they will be free agents after this year. If Mookie Betts were to opt out, he only has 5 years service time, so he would be under team control for another year. He would be arbitration eligible so he wouldn’t necessarily get 27 million like he would this year.

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      • simonabd

        5 years ago

        Thank for the response . That clarifies it

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      10 years of service time is also a requirement for the Hall of Fame.

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  34. RunDMC

    5 years ago

    Make an offer to ATL for Alex Jackson (former 1st rd pick from San Diego). Wouldn’t take much to get him. Sure, he’s got contact issues, but his power plays. (28 HR in AAA in 2019). His defense has gotten a lot better, but you could do a lot worse, depending on how the organizational depth is. With Flowers/d’Arnaud and Langeliers/Contreras in the organization, there’s not a spot for him.

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  35. stevep-4

    5 years ago

    Hello, White Sox? We should talk. I heard you have an extra catcher to spare…

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  36. giants number 1 fan

    5 years ago

    Good. Further shows what a farce this “season” will be.

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  37. AndyWarpath

    5 years ago

    Going to be tough watching the giants without Madison Bumgarner or Buster Posey this year. Oh well, at least we have fond memories of Aubry Huff…

    …
    …
    …
    crap.

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  38. rugrat907

    5 years ago

    is everyone forgetting that the Panda came up as a catcher? wouldn’t that be fun?!?!

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    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      Rugrat no one cares what Sandoval came up as. Everyone knows Sandoval cannot catch.

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      • stollcm

        5 years ago

        Fun? Or Funny?

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      • Howie415

        5 years ago

        How do you know he can’t? He traveled with the equipment last season.

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  39. bobtillman

    5 years ago

    So can Panda catch????? Can Panda get out of a crouch????????? Can Panda get into a crouch?????

    Seriously, I always liked Buster, and yes, it’s easier to give up 8M when you have 75 (or whatever) M in the bank; I get it. It’s still a pretty good move, and one that others, not being in his financial situation, I’m sure would love to make.

    BTW, what is it about Russell Martin? I’m pretty shocked he’s not signed. With his versatility and (granted, only reported) clubhouse “cred”, you’d think he would be somewhere.

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  40. Peart of the game

    5 years ago

    Russell Martin looks like a solid stopgap option, wishing Buster well.

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  41. mike156

    5 years ago

    Rational choice made by Posey, who understood the economic sacrifices. I don’t know how anyone could have a beef with this one.

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    • MWeller77

      5 years ago

      I would say Welington Castillo might have a beef, but he opted out, too

      Reply
  42. stollcm

    5 years ago

    Good decision. No beaf at all. It’s all relative though. It’s unfortunate that so many people can’t make the same decision because they HAVE to work.

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  43. SFGiants4ever

    5 years ago

    I 100% get why Posey is doing this. But from a fans standpoint it is disappointing for the simple reasons that with only a 60 game season Posey could have given his all every game without worrying about wearing down by the end of the season. Along with that, he is another year removed from surgery, and next year will be another year older. I was hoping if all went went a healthy Posey playing only say 45/50 games behind the plate could have produced some decent numbers and helped his HOF bid which is taking a big hit losing another full season.

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  44. James Midway

    5 years ago

    As a Padre fan I wish him well. It’s a pretty big bat the Padres don’t have to face this year. It might also be a little easier to swipe second against the Giants.

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  45. semut

    5 years ago

    Ok I’m confused. Were he and his wife already planning on adopting twins? Was his wife planning on being the fulltime parent while Posey played ball? Or was his intent to opt out the entire time?

    Just seems like weird timing to adopt newborn twins, literally two weeks before you’re supposed to start your season

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    • danpartridge

      5 years ago

      I don’t think adoptions work that way. They’re a pretty lengthy process. You don’t just apply in May and get newborns in July.

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      • semut

        5 years ago

        Thanks dan. (Weird, I went to elementary school with someone who shared your name in napa county).

        Since I posted this I heard on the radio that he said they had already been approved (or planned with a surrogate – didn’t hear that part) but that the premature birth was what dictated the decision. He said had they been born on time he would have played the season.

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  46. pustule bosey

    5 years ago

    curious on that – if the player opts out does that affect the service in the contract – that is will posey in this case where he would have been signed through 2021 with a 2022 buyout does that stay the same or does it get pushed to a 2022 with a 2023 buyout and he jusr forfeits pay for this year?

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      No, service time doesn’t affect current contract length.

      Reply
  47. Bill Skiles

    5 years ago

    Good on you Buster. take care of those little darlings.

    .

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  48. megaj

    5 years ago

    The more MLB players that opt out, the more the young kids that really need a paycheck have a chance to make the roster.

    Reply
  49. kroeg49

    5 years ago

    Might be the optimum time for the Chicago White Sox to make James McCann available in a trade for a highly touted prospect.

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  50. Nuschler

    5 years ago

    James McCann is an okay hitter but not a very good catcher. That won’t fly in SF.

    I say go the opposite route. Get an excellent catcher (Mike Zunino) who had a horrible year at the plate last year. He’s a free agent after the season and has hit above average in the past. Plus SF and TB have a pretty strong trade history

    Zunino is my guy for San Francisco.

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  51. Mrtwotone

    5 years ago

    Bart Simpson time!!!

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  52. Lanidrac

    5 years ago

    So, last place finish for the Giants this year?

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