12:59pm: The initial diagnosis is that Osuna requires Tommy John surgery, Mark Berman of FOX 26 reports on Twitter. He’ll go for a second opinion.
If indeed that major reconstruction is required, it could have major ramifications beyond the present season. Osuna is earning $10MM this year (on a full-season basis) and would be due a raise through arbitration for 2021. It’s quite possible that he’d miss all or virtually all of the ensuing season if he requires a UCL reconstruction, so the ’Stros may end up cutting him loose at the end of the season.
12:44pm: The Astros had been hoping for good news after closer Roberto Osuna came down with an elbow injury. Astros manager Dusty Baker indicated in an appearance on SportsTalk 790 that the club is now bracing for the worst (link to audio stream).
“Doesn’t look real good, actually,” Baker explained. “[Osuna] went and had an MRI yesterday. He’s in our prayers and in our thoughts. The reality is it’s probably not really good news.”
Whether Baker knows of an initial diagnosis isn’t evident, but it seems clear the organization anticipates a lengthy absence. Given the short schedule, there wouldn’t be much time for Osuna to work back from a significant injury — let alone to recover from a major surgery.
ron swanson 2
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
just-a-fan
you’re probably a terrible person.
Senioreditor
As are you.
The Human Toilet
Astros fan. ^^^
Halo11Fan
just a fan.
Baseball is better without him in it. Baseball was better without John Rocker in it.
Things are what they are.
whiplash
And without Aroldis Chapman
kahnkobra
exactly
miltpappas
What was John Rocker guilty of? Giving an opinion? I thought this was America. I don’t agree with his statements but he still had the right to express them.
whiplash
I think he tried too hard not to sound like he’s being racist saying something about a racist duck
yoyo137
Osuna deserves it. I only wish he tore his ACL too
ron swanson 2
No but I was married to terrible people: Tammy 1 and Tammy 2. And I never domestically violenced them.
The Human Toilet
You should of, Tammy 1 is pure evil.
yankees500
Tammy 2 is more of a crazed evil
nats3256
Tammy 3 is probably a serial killer.
yogineely
Ron Swanson you are a national treasure
Connorsoxfan
And your mom was named Tammy, which doesn’t make the three wives weirder at all
The Human Toilet
Tammy 2 is at least wild in the bedroom and pretty much everywhere.
goastros123
Ron Swason is what we should all strive to be.
bigdaddyhacks
He’s not a women beating sob I can promise you that. That pos deserves everything he’s got coming to home.
Halo11Fan
Ron, I was going to say the exact same thing.
amazing larry
Ha!
creacher
Did Crane braid his hair?
jasonmarbach
Oh darn, so sad to hear it
Nobaseball20
Injuries are mounting it seems….a few more Covid19 outbreaks and will be waiting for Spring training 2021.
JustCheckingIn
Yes because pitchers needing TJS never happened before Covid
…you seem to be rooting for it, name and all. Wow
Nobaseball20
Injuries are mounting it seems….a few more Covid19 outbreaks and will be waiting for Spring training 2021. The season seems more like spring training…….players seem
Tentative.
AngelDiceClay
Plenty of players to replace injured ones
Nobaseball20
True….60 player pool ready.
AngelDiceClay
I guess The Astros one two punch will be MIA for awhile, ahem
Connorsoxfan
THANK GOD YOU SAID THAT, I’M SO F’ING HAPPY YOU SAID THAT hehe
AngelDiceClay
Yeah, He left the game in Anaheim in the 9th Round errr I mean inning.
Connorsoxfan
Oh come on I spoon fed you a Taubman reference
yankees500
Osuna is obviously the one punch. Who is the second one though? Center field camera man?
Connorsoxfan
Zeus… buzz buzz
pustule bosey
“The reality is it’s probably not really good news.” I don’t know – for a lot of us it sounds like pretty good news.
dave frost nhlpa
An MRI is a camera isn’t it?
Sign all the Cubans
Karma
Aoe3
Hes been pitching professionally since he was 14/15. Hes had tommy john before in his teens as well.
Chin Music
Great point. Not mentioned but you are correct, this would be his second TJ
Tom E. Snyder
Thankfully the rookies seem to be stepping up. The 8 lowest ERAs to date are rookies.
yoyo137
Thank god 🙂
Strosfn79
I know this is not going to be an popular take.
Let me start by saying that I would never hit a woman or condone domestic violence.
I’m not exactly sure what happened between Osuna and his child’s mom but I’m sure he did something unacceptable.
What I do know is that ever since, he has been a model citizen who has accomplished that despite being mocked and ridiculed constantly.
He has paid a higher price than the vast majority of these deadbeats.
I am sorry for his injury. I hope he can continue to grow as a a person and overcome this. I hope he can resume a good career.
I am also sad for all the small people who spit venom and cast stones. Clearly they have tiny hearts and wish the worst on others simply because they have such miserable lives themselves.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Exactly.
The people who excuse terrible behavior by other people who, well look at that, just happen to play for their favorite team have big hearts and only want the best for everyone and peace on Earth, to boot.
Strosfn79
I’m not sure that was a dig at me.
Let me point out I’m not excusing anything.
Read my post
I said he paid his price. Not that he doesn’t deserve punishment.
We all need a second chance.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Some people don’t think you should need a second chance to know that harming other people is wrong.
Evidently, this is indicative of them having tiny hearts and miserable lives.
Can you think of any other examples of you taking time out of your day to defend a known domestic abuser who does not play for a team you root for…?
HalosHeavenJJ
That was a very measured take until your last line. Yes, second chances are warranted in many cases and Osuna has faced scorn over his actions (and justifiably so).
I take issue with the crack at people who still wish to cast stones at Osuna. I’m perfectly happy with my life but think there are lines in the sand. Either a man has the capacity to inflict damage on a woman and/or child or he doesn’t. Osuna has clearly crossed that line. He’s never apologized, never spent a night in jail, and has gotten angry when it is brought up as though the violence has been a burden on him, not his victim.
So there are legitimate reasons to believe he does not deserved millions of dollars and an elevated stage. It doesn’t mean the people who disagree with you are miserable.
original_angster
it was 100% a dig at you
CrookedAsstros
Lmao that Taubman quote ages more like milk with each passing day.
jkoch717
Did the tear occur initially when he beat his wife? I don’t wish injuries or bad things on people, but him I will. He doesn’t deserve to wear a Major League uniform.
whiplash
Neither does Aroldis Chapman but the Yankees pay him and put him out there too
jkoch717
And he too shouldn’t be allowed out there. Jose Reyes retired and he shouldn’t even have gotten a footnote on here.
Strosfn79
Thank you all knowing and omnipotent being.
Judge of all things.
Clearly you know the complete story of what happened, have no capability of forgiveness, and also are judge jury and executioner.
jkoch717
Women beaters don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, especially when he agreed not to appeal and accept his suspension, thus acknowledging guilt.
smuzqwpdmx
Tell you what, let’s forgive Osuna by not executing him and wishing him well in his post-baseball life. Doesn’t mean we have to want him to be paid tens of millions of dollars to entertain us and to enjoy 40,000 adoring fans cheering him on every home game. Fans are the ones ultimately paying his salary, and he’s being paid to be a public figure who children will inevitably look up to.
Halo11Fan
Strosfn79
It’s a good post. But he has been a model citizen since he got caught. If he was truly one and done, which none of us know, then you have a strong point.
Strosfn79
we are all just people.
He may never do anything like that again the rest of his life.
He may get in a fight and hit a woman tomorrow.
My point is he has received no benefit of the doubt and no forgiveness.
So many of these points state “he is this” “he is that” like any of us know him.
The overwhelming consensus has been no forgiveness no acknowledgement of growth and no moving forward.
Sad to me.
Halo11Fan
Is this headline accurate?
No answers – or remorse – as Roberto Osuna’s domestic assault case settled
Just John
Agree, those of us that don’t know him should stay out of it and let those that DO know him do the talking.
“What I do know is that ever since, he has been a model citizen…”
wild bill tetley
Off-field issues aside, this would be the 2nd Tommy John for Osuna. That’s not good. But, another job created for the next guy.
qbass187
He’ll beat it
DarkSide830
yikes. not to say i like the guy, but he’s a great talent and gis production is an asset to the quality of the game as a whole.
wesleyisme
Time for La Flecha!!
pinstripes17
thank god they got osuna!
whiplash
You thank God you got wife-beating Chapman too?
HalosHeavenJJ
Chapman fired a gun into a wall. Incredibly stupid, yes, beating a woman, no.
Both should’ve done time for it, but one showed he was willing to inflict damage on a wall, another on a woman.
whiplash
washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2015/12/08/p…..
whiplash
He choked his girlfriend while with the Reds in the same incident as the gun
HalosHeavenJJ
That was her allegation. Pretty sure he was only proven to have fired the gun. If not, I stand corrected.
TheTrotsky
He didn’t beat his wife.
partyatnapolis
“thank god we got osuna!!!” karma
neurogame
His rehab will consist of slapping a female mannequin with a radar gun pointed at its head to see how fast it shifts.
angt222
If this is the case, Mets should look to offer Edwin Díaz and see what the Astros are willing to give up to get an immediate closing option in. Perhaps they take a chance that he will rebound if he returns to the AL West where he was once dominant.
kjwalt1
Hope he can punch with his left arm.