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Multiple Cardinals Players/Staffers Test Positive For COVID-19

By Mark Polishuk | August 1, 2020 at 9:47am CDT

9:47AM: One Cardinals player has tested positive, according to the Wall Street Journal’s Jared Diamond, while The Athletic’s Mark Saxon (Twitter link) reports three of the positive tests were from the coaching staff.

9:10AM: Multiple Cardinals players have tested positive for the coronavirus in the wake of the club’s most recent tests.  The exact number isn’t yet known, though SportsGrid’s Craig Mish (Twitter link) reports “more than five” positive results amongst the players, while The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reports that “between four and six” of a “combination of staff and players” tested positive.  Former big leaguer Trevor Plouffe tweeted earlier this morning that “at least four” St. Louis players tested positive.

This ominous news indicates that a second team is now in the midst of a COVID-19 outbreak, following the 20 total reported cases between Marlins players and the club’s coaches and training staff.  Yesterday’s Cardinals/Brewers game was postponed due to positive coronavirus tests for two St. Louis players.

The Marlins haven’t played since last Sunday, and it now seems inevitable that the Cardinals will face a similar schedule pause of at least a week following today’s results.  Most immediately, today’s game with the Brewers has been postponed, according to Heyman.  Aside from the weekend series with the Brewers, the Cards were also set to play the Tigers four times (twice in Detroit, twice in St. Louis) from August 3-6, and then continued the homestand with three games against the Cubs on August 7-9, and three against the Pirates on August 10-12.

The Cardinals were also supposed to face the White Sox in the “Field Of Dreams” game in Iowa on August 13 and then have August 14 off before embarking on another long stretch of games, without another off-day until August 27.  The sheer volume of games involved will mean a mass overhaul of not only the Cardinals’ schedule, but the schedules of several other teams.  In a best-case scenario (if such a term even applies to this situation), “only” the 10 games against the Brewers, Tigers and Cubs, would have to be reworked if St. Louis is able to resume play next week.

In the bigger picture, however, the Cardinals’ outbreak raises even more serious questions about whether Major League Baseball as a whole can feasibly continue a 2020 season in its current form.  With two teams now in outbreak situations after barely more than a week into the season, a wider-scale shutdown (either temporary or otherwise) could be in order.  Commissioner Rob Manfred reportedly told MLBPA executive director Tony Clark that such a halt may be necessary.

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  1. Joel

    3 years ago

    SHUT IT DOWN!

    Reply
    • Dotnet22

      3 years ago

      Keep it going!

      Reply
      • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

        3 years ago

        Yes, let’s be fair. Let’s make sure EVERY team has a lot of infected people before we shut it down. Equal opportunity and all.

        Reply
        • WiffleBall

          3 years ago

          What people don’t get is that to stop spread and to prevent deaths, things need to be shut down BEFORE rates surge, not after. NYC shut down in March when there were just 10,000 confirmed cases. It was already too late.

          Of course, always better late than never. Shut baseball down, it failed.

        • wild bill tetley

          3 years ago

          Whiffle, tell protesters to go home. Then come back and lecture everyone. Not once have you mentioned them. That is why you should stop talking.

        • Halo11Fan

          3 years ago

          Wild Bill.

          He has a political agenda, so it won’t happen. One size does not fit all. If these players are isolating, not only will they not get it, but they will not be part of spreading the spread beyond baseball.

          Since this is not an indiscriminate killer, players are unlikely to suffer serious complications. But I am worried about coaches and umpires. Well maybe not umpires.

        • phattboy4

          3 years ago

          Finland didn’t shut down at all and positive cases have been trending down since June and they had 3 straight days without a death.

        • averagejoe15

          3 years ago

          Have you ever been to Finland? Their culture is basically predicated on social distancing.

        • arc89

          3 years ago

          Finland had mask and supplies built up before the virus hit. They have a leader that prepared their country for a pandemic. Unfortunately the US waited and waited before doing anything and was caught behind. You made a excellent point that US should never fired the pandemic team that was in place before 2016.

        • bronyaur

          3 years ago

          I see that “Protestors!!!” has become the latest irrelevant talking point thread clung to by those who have been so spectacularly wrong about this virus so far. Saying it often enough absolutely will ward off the evil China virus.

        • letmeclearmythroat74

          3 years ago

          Fake news

        • wild bill tetley

          3 years ago

          You’ve been spectacularly wrong. That’s been proven. I’m sure I’ll see that as I scroll down.

        • live42day

          3 years ago

          Phattboy4 – I think you mean Sweden. Finland did shut down.

          From Newsweek: 7/30/2020
          Sweden, Which Never Had Lockdown, Sees COVID-19 Cases Plummet as Rest of Europe Suffers Spike

        • Henry Limpet

          3 years ago

          Not just the protesters, but also all the rioters and looters too.

        • phattboy4

          3 years ago

          Yes you are correct. The point is that the shutdowns have lost a lot of validity based on what sweden is experiencing. There’s no evidence that closing businesses did anything more than would have been accomplished simply by social distancing and using masks.

    • bradthoc

      3 years ago

      Yep. This’ll be the end.

      Reply
      • M Haworth

        3 years ago

        Hear that every time there’s a positive test. They’ve made some protocol changes and Phillies have been testing good since initials. There will be positive tests

        Reply
        • WiffleBall

          3 years ago

          It’s not a few positive tests that worry anyone. It’s a full outbreak. Because once you have a widespread infection, data says you’ll start seeing hospitalizations. If you have too many hospitalizations, it leads to death.

        • phattboy4

          3 years ago

          Except 99% of positives don’t require any hospital care. Stop freaking out over a virus with a fraction of 1% death rate.

        • bronyaur

          3 years ago

          We have about 5 million confirmed cases in the US since January, and infection rates are rising. Far less than 1% of the US population has immunity to this, and it is highly contagious via aerosol in indoor confined spaces without masks and social distancing. It is not unreasonable to assign a decent probabilty that 100 million Americans might contract this over the next year or so before a vaccine is widely available.

          With a 1% mortality rate, that means 1 million excess deaths over baseline between Jan 2020 and say, August 2021.

          Everyone ok with that?

        • M Haworth

          3 years ago

          Your facts are off by multiples of levels. At least 50M have been infected per studies and could be as high as 125M. The mortality rate is 0.4% overall and 0.1% for those under 70 with no underlying conditions with the low end numbers. There is no data that show 1M deaths is remotely likely.

          Just be honest and accurate.

        • Balboni

          3 years ago

          I find this mortality argument so funny, it’s not live or die either. Edwardo Rodriguez has a heart condition he’s like 27. But I guess as long as he’s not dead it fits your narrative

        • woodguy

          3 years ago

          Well said!

    • DwWashburn

      3 years ago

      They won’t until it affects the Yankees, Red Sox or Dodgers. All of the other teams are expendable.

      Reply
      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        Red Sox are pretty expendable this year. All joking aside, this is bananas. I think the Phillies are key. They played an infected team. If 0 Phillies players test positive after that, there’s hope.

        Reply
        • luther.elmo

          3 years ago

          We’ve seen no incidents of an apparent passage of the virus between players on opposing teams while on the field. Now the clubhouse and outside the stadium, two completely different things.

        • Halo11Fan

          3 years ago

          Phillies are the key, yes, but players have always been the key.

          Getting a player South of thirty do act responsibly is a herculean task. Any guy who is North of thirty knows exactly what I’m talking about.

          Players need to police themselves.

        • BobBob

          3 years ago

          You have that right. Just look at the home page of Moronic Lamebrain Bonehead website. Well over half the time the main article is Aron Jug or the NYY. And Dodgers along with Bosox follwing up.
          Who really cares? A short season.
          Hey, why not make all games 9-innings? That’s what Little League does. Except for the size of the players I cannot tell the difference.

      • WiffleBall

        3 years ago

        I don’t agree in principle that there’s a bias, but if too many games get cancelled, it’s hard to maintain a season. If too many players have to quarantine, it’s hard to field teams.

        Reply
    • VegasSDfan

      3 years ago

      Its 3 coaches and 1 player. Tighten up the restrictions and keep playing.

      Reply
      • johnsilver

        3 years ago

        won’t do any good to tighten restrictions unless players themselves who willingly break them are threatened with monetary penalties. ONLY then will we stop seeing increases in many of these cases, just like with parties and group gatherings it seems many of the ignorant young in the rest of the country cannot seem to do without, increasing cases only to whine about later of being infected

        Reply
        • MWeller77

          3 years ago

          It’s unfortunate that you made that swipe at “the…young.”

          There are foolish young people; there are foolish people of my generation; there are foolish boomers. There are also plenty of people in each group who are staying home, wearing a mask, etc. It’s not helpful to paint any of these groups with such a broad brush.

        • bronyaur

          3 years ago

          It’s pretty obvious that young people are the primary source of new infections in the US right now. It is also BLINDINGLY obvious that the reason is that a lot of young people have ignored mask requirements, social distancing, staying out of bars and restaurants,etc. – all the things that we know are the sources of spread of the virus. (Well, physicians, public health professionals, health workers, and those of us that read and watch actual news instead of political,propaganda disguised as news know this).

          So, yeah… this is now mostly mushrooming because of young people’s choices and behavior.

        • mstrchef13

          3 years ago

          Umm…wrong. You’re wrong. You’re incredibly wrong on multiple levels. However, this is a baseball site not a political site.

        • wild bill tetley

          3 years ago

          bronyaur – you didn’t mention protests. Please stop with the rhetoric. Picking and choosing your targets is a bad look.

        • pt57

          3 years ago

          Oh, the irony.

        • Halo11Fan

          3 years ago

          Not to get political, but Herman Cain for example. He goes to a gathering with no mask. If he had the virus before the gathering, then he likely spread it to someone. And if he got it at the gathering, it’s likely he got it from someone who was not wearing a mask.

          Careless comes in all shapes and sizes, but few things come with the power of temptation more than “fraternizing”. That along with the low mortality rate is what makes people in their 20s vectors of this virus.

        • realsox

          3 years ago

          The penalty should be suspension for the season. The players know the requirements, but they casually ignore them for all their TV fans to see. The arrogance—or is it indifference or misplaced manly independence?—is appalling.

        • bronyaur

          3 years ago

          If you watch something other than Fox News and get information from sources other than your addled aunt’s Facebook feed, you’d know that a lot of protests featured people wearing masks… and they were outside, not indoors.

          I don’t think that relying on actual public health experts for information about this virus is about rhetoric. Relying on talking heads on cable tv news channels is exactly rhetoric.

        • adc6r

          3 years ago

          Yer right Bill When people Get up in other peoples face w/o wearing face masks and start yelling and screaming it is obviously a high risk of spread.

          Thank goodness most of the protesters that have been ut there day in and day out have been doing the distancing and wearing mask, bringing hand sanitizer with them etc.

        • M Haworth

          3 years ago

          Nice political jab based on your personal bias. You point to Fox News yet leave out the other two cable political organizations CNN and MSNBC.

          If you honestly think it is not political, the reporting from these networks, then there’s just no reality for you. They are all biased one way or the other

        • Henry Limpet

          3 years ago

          “It’s pretty obvious that young people are the primary source of new infections in the US right now”.

          Completely, ridiculously wrong.
          Could not be more wrong.
          Unbelievable.

          An obvious case of ‘State a lie enough times and masses begin to believe it’.
          It’s modern corporate ‘journalism’ in a nutshell.

    • M Haworth

      3 years ago

      Blah blah blah

      Reply
    • HateSpeechisFake

      3 years ago

      This is going to run through the population regardless of restrictions. The country cannot continue to operate in hopes that people won’t get COVID. It’s inevitable. Whether we have baseball or not, this will continue to spread, as we are clearly seeing.

      Reply
      • Halo11Fan

        3 years ago

        H.S.F. Yes and no. When this first started, we didn’t know how to attack the illnesses. We didn’t know how to protect people. Treatments were a shot in the dark. We bought time. And if we are smart, and not careless, we can buy enough time for a vaccine.

        Reply
    • adc6r

      3 years ago

      A Little Dark City Joel?

      Reply
    • nowheretogobutup

      3 years ago

      If baseball is suspended then keep the current records of the teams and the players stats carried into the 2012 season

      Reply
    • Joey Schmoey 2

      3 years ago

      A
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      Brainwashed the death rates have tumbled so fast the expected based in real data read josh ketters @sangfroyd medium articles on the data versus emotions. Yes Covid is real n ppl in nursing homes (50% of the US deaths) ppl with Comorbidities n older population are at great risk

      They are also at great risk to influence h1n1 for which 203k ppl have died from this year data from CDC

      Heart disease
      Cancer
      Obesity
      Diabetes

      End baseball if u need to but inform yourselfor don’t.

      Reply
    • WillieWildkat

      3 years ago

      UH OH SPAGHETTI OH!

      Reply
  2. mdecav

    3 years ago

    This is the end, my only friend, The End.

    Reply
    • marrtho

      3 years ago

      I’ll never, look at another 0-2 wipeout slider from Josh Hader, again.

      Reply
      • adc6r

        3 years ago

        Can you picture what will be
        time so limitless and free
        Desperately in need
        of Sanitized hands

        Reply
  3. wright4seaver

    3 years ago

    It was okay while it lasted. Not playing would have been better than this.

    Reply
  4. jjd002

    3 years ago

    What is the exact number Manfred has in mind before shutting it down?

    Reply
    • emo2002

      3 years ago

      29 clubs…last one standing gets the trophy!

      Reply
      • tyson wolf

        3 years ago

        You’ve got something there. Stop keeping score in the game. Just play the required nine or seven or whatever number it gets whittled down to innings and whenever the season wraps up the champions are the team with the least COVID-19 infections. That will open up a new gambling operation. Betting on who gets infected or not and who has the least or the most infections. When they get infected,etc. It’s a whole new ballgame!

        Reply
    • racosun

      3 years ago

      Three or more Yankees.

      Reply
    • brucenewton

      3 years ago

      If his yanks lose key players he will shut it down pronto.

      Reply
  5. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    3 years ago

    The Marlins and the Cardinals are a microcosm of what makes this virus so difficult. If you’re traveling with 33 players and what, say 7 auxiliary personnel (I know it’s more, but for the sake of debate and round numbers), it only takes ONE person out of 40 to cause an incredibly rapid and… well, viral spread. Beyond that, it only takes two teams (so far) to really throw a monkey-wrench into an already difficult scheduling situation; while “only” two teams are immediately directly affected, look at how the Phillies and several opponents have been indirectly affected by what may end up being the carelessness of two individuals (though obviously, it could be more).

    The NBA and NHL might be able to pull it off, but with travel, no bubble, etc, I think that MLB and the NFL are facing near impossible odds.

    Reply
    • some guy

      3 years ago

      Agreed, but worth pointing out that the UK and German soccer leagues managed it just fine. The difference is the measures taken to control the virus in communities in which the teams are playing. But that’s not a baseball conversation. So sadly agree — shut it down.

      Reply
      • Dogbone

        3 years ago

        @someguy. You get my vote for comment of the season. Well put. Other countries have handled this much better, on the large scale than it has been handled here. That is precisely the issue.

        Reply
        • Reflect

          3 years ago

          The NBA has handled it well also.

        • bronyaur

          3 years ago

          Eye roll

        • DirtbagBlues

          3 years ago

          Such a fitting response from the “best fans in baseball.”

        • Henry Limpet

          3 years ago

          The other countries don’t have as corrupt media as America has.

      • gbs42

        3 years ago

        “But that’s not a baseball conversation.”

        Excellent point.

        Reply
  6. Lloyd Emerson

    3 years ago

    What a bummer. I hate the Cardinals, but I love baseball. This sucks.

    Reply
    • gfilla

      3 years ago

      The Cardinals ruin it for other teams all the time.

      Reply
    • gfilla

      3 years ago

      The Cardinals ruin it for other teams all the time. lol

      Reply
      • gbs42

        3 years ago

        Yeah, 11 times in MLB history, most in the NL.

        Reply
        • live42day

          3 years ago

          @Gbs42. –
          BANG!

  7. AZPat

    3 years ago

    The Tigers are probably thinking if the schedule is re worked they want more games with the Reds. Let the games go on.

    Reply
  8. mcmillankmm

    3 years ago

    If MLB is forced to shut down, and leads to more uncertainty and friction between the league and players…..will it be the final blow for Manfred as commissioner? I think 3 separate bubbles for all 3 divisions would have been best, but it’s easy to say that now…..as a fan I have lost confidence in his ability to lead and manage the league.

    Reply
    • aloop

      3 years ago

      Re the bubbles: I wonder if the players are regretting dismissing the bubble idea? I still think a bubble would’ve been best (though, where and how you could do it is up for debate). And it probably would’ve helped to contain the Marlins outbreak if it had been done during Spring Training 2.0. Formula 1 is a traveling circus, and they’ve only had three positive tests (out of 20k +) and they have strict rules about who the drivers and personnel can be around, where they can and can’t go, and when.

      As I said on another platform yesterday, the MLB, on the other hand, are like free range chickens.

      Reply
    • Bill N

      3 years ago

      I don’t see any sport lasting without fans. If they have to depend on TV to watch every game sooner or later they will be busy with other things when the game comes on. Me – I TIVOed every game and started them about an hour late to avoid the commercials. Worked great and if they go late, I just stop it and watch later when it is more convenient.

      Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Keep in mind it was the players who refused the bubble idea, NHL and NBA only have to manage playoff scenarios, not full seasons, European Soccer leagues are playing in areas where the virus is more under control. I’m not trying to defend Manfred at all. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s fair to compare the scenarios as it’s apples and oranges.

      Reply
      • inkstainedscribe

        3 years ago

        A bubble would be nice, but I’m not sure MLB can do it. The NHL and NBA have smaller rosters and smaller playing surfaces. If you cut the number of eligible teams, then maybe. But is there a place with five regulation fields in climate controlled conditions in the same city? Are there three?

        Reply
        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Great points and exactly why it’s much harder to handle a baseball season than other playoff scenarios.

  9. baseballnamescanbehard

    3 years ago

    Shut it down. The Cards are my team, but screw it. This will never work.

    Reply
  10. thunderroad19

    3 years ago

    I’ve disliked Manfred from day one and still do but this is an impossible situation. You have players who would rather not play but would still like to be paid. You have owners that want to make money from TV all the while they sit in their safe environment and you have fans pretty much equally divided as to whether they should play or not. It pretty much mirrors the country and we have elected officials at all levels making contradicting decisions daily.
    I’ve listened to every Royals game so far and am excited to see new faces on the field and in the dugout (yes, I’ve warmed considerably to Matheny)….but it ain’t gonna work. Pull the plug.

    Reply
  11. batter up

    3 years ago

    SHUT IT DOWN!! Before the wrong team wins the whole thing.

    Reply
    • throwinched10

      3 years ago

      Ladies and Gentleman, your 2020 World Series Champions…the Baltimore Orioles!

      Reply
      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        I laughed at this, but honestly this is the most difficult baseball season ever. If there is an eventual winner, they definitely deserve it.

        Reply
    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      and what would be “the right team?”

      Reply
      • JD396

        3 years ago

        Watch, it’ll be the Astros

        Reply
        • nick effing punto

          3 years ago

          Bang bang

    • Brewcats

      3 years ago

      Does anybody care who wins it all this year? I know I won’t. Even if my team gets it. If any season needed an asterisk it’s this one. More of a joke that ‘81.

      Reply
      • nowheretogobutup

        3 years ago

        The brewers do not have the team this year to even make the playoffs

        Reply
  12. bhambrave

    3 years ago

    The players need to learn that following the protocols will help their team win. The healthiest team will win it all. Until they get that, they will still put themselves at risk.

    Reply
  13. sjberke1

    3 years ago

    I still believe that if they do stop, they will try to reset rather than take the financial losses for owners and players alike that would result from total cancellation. Maybe pause and go back into training for two weeks, do intake testing again, then restart in maybe three bubbles. This was rejected in March because the players hated the idea and the owners were still hoping to get fans back eventually. We know that won’t happen and the players now may face a choice between the bubble and no season (meaning no additional pay).

    Reply
    • aloop

      3 years ago

      I don’t know if they do restart (assuming it shuts down). And the no bubble, no season should’ve been the ultimatum to begin with. But nope. They were too busy trying to take money from the players. MLB is an absolute joke.

      Reply
      • nowheretogobutup

        3 years ago

        The players are lucky to be paid period, its a loss for the owners this year.

        Reply
  14. sufferfortribe

    3 years ago

    You do know that “Live free or die” is the motto of New Hampshire…..which doesn’t even have a team, right?

    Stupid Canadian.

    Reply
    • dalrob

      3 years ago

      Yeah. I am stupid! I will remember that as I wander aimlessly around a Covid free country listening to your president talk about drinking bleach to kill the virus. How many hundreds of millions of people in your country voted for him? Stupid Canadian?

      Reply
  15. VegasSDfan

    3 years ago

    Hey mike, according to the CDC we have a 3.3% fatality rate, the World is at 3.9%.
    Stop with your fake facts. Can’t imagine which YouTube video you got your information from.

    Reply
    • Snuffy

      3 years ago

      The World includes Africa and India and other third world populations. So proud of the USA for achieving a fatality rate below these places.

      Reply
      • HateSpeechisFake

        3 years ago

        These numbers are so skewed that it will end up being a much lower fatality rate, particularly as testing gets more accurate and more available.

        Reply
    • paule

      3 years ago

      The United States is 7th in deaths per million people. Canada is way down the list. Belgium is worst. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

      Reply
      • bronyaur

        3 years ago

        More current data: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

        Reply
    • flmetfan

      3 years ago

      Hmmm, are they playing baseball in Slovenia? I’m focused on USA.

      Reply
  16. gfilla

    3 years ago

    I have not seen any reports of any MLB players actually having symptoms. I wouldn’t be in a panic.

    Reply
    • tacohole

      3 years ago

      Eduardo Rodriguez is having heart complications and Freddie Freeman said he got so bad he thought he might die.. So just because we don’t see the reports, doesn’t mean that people don’t have symptoms.

      Reply
      • yandymania

        3 years ago

        chaim bloom literally said that erod is going to play this season lol. and freeman said he took tylenol one night and then woke up fine the next day. stop doomposting. erod is the absolute worst case outcome so far and he apparently is fine enough that him playing this season is in the realm of possibility

        Reply
        • HateSpeechisFake

          3 years ago

          And to add to Yandy’s post, nothing says they didn’t also have another illness – just because one has the positive markers for antibodies doesn’t mean he currently even has the illness. It could be the flu or one of any other various illnesses getting passed around right now, which may explain the disparate reactions.

        • tacohole

          3 years ago

          Nobody is doomposting…I’m just saying that what we don’t hear doesn’t mean that something more isn’t happening. People that think a team outbreak isn’t a big deal are fooling themselves. I don’t want the season to get cancelled either but acting like all is fine is reckless at best.

        • tacohole

          3 years ago

          yandymala…what was that about Erod playing again this season?

  17. adlund09

    3 years ago

    Funny… the death rate in your country is 7.7% whereas in the US it’s down around 3.3%. Comparing a country with only 5 cities of over a million people with the US tells us nothing. You have a smaller more spread out population. Congrats! That socialist healthcare system of yours seems to be working great though!

    Reply
  18. getrealgone2

    3 years ago

    Cancel this farce.

    Reply
  19. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    well that’s clickbait

    Reply
  20. Ezpkns34

    3 years ago

    Either count it as a forfeit loss when a team can’t play or wrap this up. The forfeit method is the only way to make sure half the teams aren’t ending up with 10-15 less games played, unless the plan is daily double headers

    Reply
  21. Bill N

    3 years ago

    I am getting the feeling that MLB is circling the drain. You are not going to completely lock down 900 ballplayers plus 900 more at an ‘alternate site’ and expect none of them to stray from the reservation a bit. See ya in 2021 Spring Training.

    Reply
  22. Fred McGriff

    3 years ago

    All the “shut it downs”, why are you watching, shouldn’t you be watching CNN.

    Interesting how the KBO, CPBL. NPB, NRL, EPL, The Championship, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, A League, K League can get by, yet here you have all the doom and gloom death riders screaming “shut it down”. Maybe all the other sports I mentioned are more disciplined and don’t have as many death riders weighing them down. The ‘world is finished’, ‘shut it down’.

    Reply
    • ThePeople'sElbow

      3 years ago

      or maybe they live in a country where they’ve handled the virus better and have a population of individuals who are more willing to make certain sacrifices for the greater good.

      US has 25% of the global deaths and only 4% of the global population – does that not concern you?

      Reply
      • bronyaur

        3 years ago

        The same people screaming DEATH PANELS!!!!!1 a few years ago all,of a sudden are dismissive of old people’s deaths from this, mostly because they are lemmings who believe whatever they see on certain evening cable “news” channels… and call actual facts “fake news” as if somehow that is an intelligent position.

        Reply
        • Fred McGriff

          3 years ago

          @bronyaur You would not know what a “fact” is. The Oxford English Dictionary will be a good starting point for you.

    • nowheretogobutup

      3 years ago

      Rather watch Fox news

      Reply
  23. JD396

    3 years ago

    The hysterics are just getting to be a bit much. On one end the virus doesn’t even exist and on the other end every last one of us died sometime in June.

    Reply
    • yourcubreporter

      3 years ago

      That was perfect.

      You can take the rest of the day off.

      Reply
  24. puigpower

    3 years ago

    Give mlb a chance people. If you thought there would be no cases you’re crazy. Give the league a chance to make this work.

    Reply
  25. Henry Limpet

    3 years ago

    Well more people are killed in auto accidents yearly so they should shut it down since players and others will be driving to and from the ballpark. Why is the government still allowing people to drive cars? I can’t understand it.

    Reply
    • bronyaur

      3 years ago

      I suggest that you lean something about benefit cost analysis. It might prevent you from making such imbecilic statements because you’ll realize how dumb you sound repeating talking points.

      Reply
    • flmetfan

      3 years ago

      Uhh, you know auto accident fatalities aren’t contagious, right?

      Reply
    • HaloHonk4Life

      3 years ago

      Hey numb skull. Accidents are the result of people making personal terrible decisions . DUI’s,Speeding,Driving cars that are unsafe and shouldn’t be on the road. etc. Does you really have to explained the difference?

      Reply
    • dalrob

      3 years ago

      Probably because your really stupid!

      Reply
  26. Henry Limpet

    3 years ago

    Businesses all over America are and have been running just fine with tons of employees working close to one another every day since the whole covid-19 thing began, but they aren’t having half the problems MLB seems to be having. What is so different?

    I guess the only difference I can think of is that there is no media hysteria and social media shills at our workplaces in most cases.

    Reply
  27. flmetfan

    3 years ago

    This site sure has a lot baseball on it for a political commentary site!

    Reply
    • JD396

      3 years ago

      Please select the appropriate responses below.

      Oh, be quiet you (choose: Republican/Democrat) party line shill who gets news exclusively from the shameless (choose: right-wing/left-wing) propagandists at (choose: Fox News/CNN)!

      Reply
      • Henry Limpet

        3 years ago

        All corporate media is corrupt.
        Stop watching TV period.

        Reply
  28. jleve618

    3 years ago

    I don’t see the point in shutting it down. I bet many players are being safer because of the season.

    Reply
  29. expos771

    3 years ago

    They positive but what about symptoms?
    They have covid but feel great?

    Reply
    • Hawktattoo

      3 years ago

      What about the symptoms? They tested positive which means they can pass it on to others. Do you think it’s ok if show no symptoms?

      Reply
  30. Mollysdad

    3 years ago

    How many players have tested positive since opening day if you don’t count the Marlins? One? There are nearly 1000 players on active rosters and one has tested positive (Soto and Davidson were tested before the season started) We know the Marlins outbreak is traced to a bunch of players going to a strip club in Atlanta and hanging out in the hotel bar etc etc. That was preventable. .Reports are coming out that a few Cardinals went to a casino while on the road. That was preventable.

    How many players tested positive during summer camp? ALOT, right? There was no talk about shutting camp down, just quarantine the player and move on, it worked
    .
    IF players would be responsible and follow the suggested guidelines of staying in your hotel room on the road when you’re not at the park we will be able to finish this season.
    I hear people say “How can you expect them to stay in their rooms?” It’s called self quarantine, we all have done it for months, we would all like to get back to going out and being social, but now is not the time. I still have to go to work, if I don’t follow safety protocols at work I won’t have a job.

    I see alot of people blaming Manfred, I can’t stand Manfred, but this all falls on Tony Clark and his players. If isololating yourself on the road is too much for you, OPT out, be a man, be a good teammate, be a good citizen for god’s sake, stop being the cliche’ selfish athlete,
    Suck it up for two months or OPT out for everybody else’s sake. This season can be played to a conclusion if that’s what the player’s want. It’s all on them.

    Reply
  31. stgpd

    3 years ago

    Time to shut things down before it’s too late.

    Reply
    • M Haworth

      3 years ago

      Too late = what? I’m sure you’re trying to infer someone dies. Answer this, if they are in society with no protocols or testing, are they safer?

      Reply
      • Balboni

        3 years ago

        Uh yeah of course they are safer not traveling all over the region

        Reply
        • M Haworth

          3 years ago

          If they are home they have the same risks as everyone in society but without the testing and monitoring. I don’t buy it honestly.

          It is spreading everywhere without travel in the public.

        • Balboni

          3 years ago

          So your saying someone who stays home is at equal risk then someone who encounters hundreds of people flying busing going in and out of hotels, sure that checks out

  32. chisoxjuan

    3 years ago

    As one sports writer puts it, “we are asking some 1600 players to behave like monks for a few months.” MLB must play through the pain of scheduling changes because America’s health system needs these control groups.

    If a high viral load has been confirmed amongst one or more Marlins we must know whether the infection came from a low or high viral load person. We must know whether a low viral load infection can develop a high viral load response. Recently an NFL player has been shutdown for the season because he developed a high viral load after infection that is threatening his heart. This just illustrates how complex the reaction from the body is to this virus.

    It’s these outliers that threaten the efficacy of a vaccine & society’s return to normal.
    Trying to develop these control groups from persons walking in off the street will cost considerably more time & money & America can’t keep spending more or wait any longer.

    If these sports returned without incidence then yes, you can question the use of the testing resources. Since that is not the case, & some incidences have resulted in hospitalization, now these control groups are providing valuable data on the virus. MLB failures of recent weeks means tighter controls for that group going forward. This is exactly what researchers need from a group that is supposed to be low risk to begin with.

    We also need to test every athlete, trainer, coach, etc that tested positive at the end of the season to see the load level of their antibodies. Right now, consenus is they peak the 5th wk after infection & are too low 12 wks after infection. No one monitored what that control group took before or after the infection with respect to supplements & medications.
    That level of monitoring will certainly be present with the MLB positive test group
    & other sports groups.

    While society as a whole needs these control groups the sports bodies must provide long term care assurances for the players & such. That NFL player is likely to need extensive rehab afterwards. I think that’s the part of COVID19 that gets under-reported the most. Those hospitalization numbers are not simply in & out cases. Many times the battle is so severe the victim needs extensive rehab afterwards. A palsy like condition can effect them long term. I assume the MLBPA sought such assurances & I hope the NCAA acts quickly to provide them too.

    Reply
  33. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 years ago

    Fine and/or suspend any player who breaks protocol. I get that the restrictions are unlike anything they’ve played through before, but they opted in. When you agree to a set of rules, it’s not unreasonable to expect you to abide by them.

    I don’t want to shut the season down. I’d rather the Marlins, Cardinals, et al, to be forced to play their games with people on their 60-man pool who have tested negative, even if they lose every one of those games, even if it requires flipping the 30 players on the active roster with the 30 who aren’t. Sanitize the locker room, get healthy players in, then play on. When players see other teams suffering because protocols were broken, they will start policing each other and themselves.

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