OCT. 14: Good news for Lamet, Clevinger and the Padres: General manager A.J. Preller said Wednesday (via AJ Cassavell of MLB.com) that it doesn’t seem “either situation is surgical,” so the two righties should be ready for the spring.
OCT. 13: Padres righty Dinelson Lamet has begun platelet-rich plasma therapy on his right elbow, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. Lamet has been out of action since September 25 due to biceps tightness, though examinations of his arm revealed “no ligament issues” according to one of Acee’s sources, and Lamet is expected to be ready for the start of Spring Training.
Lamet was unable to pitch during the Padres’ postseason run, bringing a sour end to an otherwise dream season for the 28-year-old. Seen as a potential breakout candidate after a promising 2019, Lamet more than lived up to expectations by posting a 2.09 ERA, 4.65 K/BB rate, and 12.1 K/9 over 69 innings for San Diego. Armed with a 97mph fastball that sat in the 91st percentile of spin rate, Lamet’s 2.4 fWAR tied him for fifth among all Major League pitchers in 2020.
After Lamet missed all of 2018 due to Tommy John surgery, there was natural concern about another arm injury, but the issue didn’t sideline Lamet entirely. As Acee notes, Lamet kept playing catch in order to keep his arm loose, just in case he received clearance to pitch in some capacity during the playoffs.
It’s quite possible that the Padres could still be playing had Lamet and Mike Clevinger both been healthy for October. Clevinger is also expected to be ready for the start of the 2021 season since his elbow impingement is thought to require arthroscopic surgery at the most, though Acee adds today that Clevinger will be examined by doctors this week and “no definite plan has been established.”
Huge reason the Padres struggled against the Bums.
If both pitchers were healthy for the playoffs that series goes all 5 games.
Wow,.Dodgers you beat up on a team whose pen was gassed. Acted like world beaters and thumped your chest.
A win’s a win…
Lol were they supposed to go easy on the Padres because their top 2 starters were hurt? A playoff series win is a win even if it’s easier because of unfortunate injuries to the opponent.
If, if, if…
If I was 6- 6, but of course I’m not. If I could throw 100 miles an hour, but of course I can’t…
If so-and-so hadn’t got hurt we would have won it all. The oldest, worst, crummiest, crybaby complaint of all time. If, if, if..
Scoreboard is what matters. Scoreboard is the bottom line. When someone gets hurt, next guy up. When you don’t have a replacement that’s on YOU. Nobody else.
I can’t stand, IF. Huge pet peeve for me. Be prepared for IF. Whose fault is it when there’s no Back-up Plan? Everyone needs a backup plan. Put all your eggs in one basket? LOL. Never. You need a backup plan IF that basket doesn’t come through for you.
Don’t get me started lol.
Gary, I think he already got you started. LOL!
🙂
Don’t tell that to Padre fan we lost because 2 5 inning pitchers didn’t pitch
You lost game 1 because you scored one run. Unless you were expecting a shutout from Clevinger, you were going to lose anyway.
You lost the second game with Davies, and he’s a regular.
In game 3, you only scored 3 runs. That’s more winnable, but you are assuming that you’d have kept the LAD to two runs or less.
You’d have likely been swept even at full health.
The Padres lost because the playoffs are the playoffs and as any fan of any team who has made the playoffs knows this is what happens in the playoffs.
You lose because the teams that make the playoffs are good and it’s hard to advance.
@JoeBrady
The Padres played the Dodgers pretty tough all season. Game 1 was a low scoring game until late. They lost game 2 mostly because Bellinger made an unbelievable catch to rob Tatis of a home run. Davies is not a power pitcher, he struggles if his location is less than perfect.
You just don’t know what would have happened unless both pitchers can play and play at full strength. But no excuses, the Dodgers are deep enough to overcome adversity like that. The Padres aren’t there yet.
Nobody cares what you think
Major League Baseball is ruthless. If the other side is down, you bury them. All successful teams have that mindset.
It’s not the greatest way to behave in life in general, but it’s only a game for entertainment.
What a weird post. When a team wins a playoff series are they supposed to do, not celebrate? Or temper the celebration in direct proportion to the level of injuries the other team had? No doubt that the win was likely easier because those two were injured but did you expect the Dodgers to sit Buehler and Kershaw to make it closer?
Wonder if he’ll be avail to pitch in the post season?
Nope. Not good. Richards did this a few years back and it just delayed the inevitable. Has this ever staved off TJS?
Go get Ray or Gausman this off season. Or even Bauer, but he may be out of their price range.
One thing the playoffs proved is the Padres are thin in the rotation. Pen will get a boost with guys coming back from injury, but even then I’d opt to sign Tony Watson, with Jose Castillo’s injury history. Pomeranz has to be the closer for 2021 meaning they need 2 LHPs for the pen to pair with Strahm. Watson should be one, maybe Tj McFarland?
Marvel, Richards had damage. Canning had a similar injury and treatment and he seemed fine.
The fact is, we don’t know how this will work out. To be honest, we don’t even have a good guess.
100% agree. It’s more or less window dressing. They need another vet or two. I’d love to see the Pads get Bauer but in the very least they need a couple of veteran innings eater types while their young arms develop.
I’ll bet Bauer would love to come to San Diego but I doubt the Padres want to spend what it will take to land him. They still need to lock up Tatis long term or he’s going to hit the open market when he’s 25.
Still don’t get not getting the extra year on Tatis. Like even if you are generally against the idea of service time manipulation, you make an exception on Tatis. His age 26 season is just too valuable.
You missed the part where it said “no ligament damage.” TJ is for torn/detached ligaments. So yeah, not having ligament damage has staved off Tommy John surgery in pretty mu Co all humans.
Some humans have avoided TJS by not even having a UCL.
“no ligament issues”
There’s “damage”. If there wasn’t he would have pitched. You don’t need a tear or rip to cause damage. Stretching is considered “damage”.
There’s an issue……which is why he’s receiving plate rich plasma. Cause the ligament is injured.
Yeah, calling bs on the “no ligament issues.” He isn’t doing PRT if there’s no damage. This has TJ written all over it. Dude throws slider after slider after slider at very high velocity. Just a matter of time.
Marvels MagaMan
If someone asked me six months ago, I would have said TJ surgery. As a matter of fact… I did. Canning.
No damage but pain. Seems strange, but now I don’t know. Certainly not enough to predict what will happen with any type of confidence.
But for the record, this is completely different than Richards, Richards had damage.
I dont know how long a ligament takes to heal itself. But PRP is suppose to expedite the process of healing itself. Will it mean he’s ready in 5 months for ST? I don’t know.
@MAGA:
There’s a difference between a ligament healing naturally for someone like you or me and healing at an acceptable level for a major league pitcher who is going to be stressing that ligament regularly every fourth or fifth day.
PRP therapy isn’t cheap and isn’t covered by the type of insurance that most people have. The Padres obviously have some concerns.
Sure. Masahiro Tanaka had PRP 6 1/2 years ago. No TJS. PRP is an effective treatment depending on what else is going on in the elbow.
Masahiro Tanaka is the most notable PRP success story.
Yup, we are short of starting pitchers. But, we had options that were ignored! For one, Garret Richards. The management of the pitching staff was terrible from the middle of August through the playoffs.
When they do PRP and there’s no ligament damage is it for the muscle or tendon or what…?
I think because we’ve seen so many UCL injuries and Tommy John surgeries we just assume that elbow injury = UCL injury, but this was “bicep tightness” and now he’s getting PRP on his elbow so I’m kind of confused as to what they’re treating.
-Hospital for Special Surgery
“Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) use injections of a concentration of a patient’s own platelets to accelerate the healing of injured tendons, ligaments, MUSCLES and joints.”
I could be wrong, but isn’t the bicep a muscle?
@MagaMan-“No ligament issues” actually DOES mean no ligament damage. Damage is an issue. Stretching is an issue. “No ligament issues” means that the ligament is fully intact and healthy. He has bicep and tricep pulls, tears, whatever.
Isn’t the elbow a joint?
RIP
i dont care if there is no ligament damage. he’s already been under the knife once and PRP is typically a harbinger of TJS. i woulf be shocked if he didn’t need it again.
PRP is just a concentrated healing solution. While it may not work on ligaments, it should work great on helping to heal all other kinds of lower grade injuries more quickly than is usually possible. I think we may start seeing PRP injections being used on a whole lot more injuries.
Clevinger is the second ‘ace’ that Cleveland traded in the past year, and neither has survived. Any time a playoff contender offers to trade you a #1, you have to question their motivation. For a team like the RS, the motivation would be obvious. But why would Cleveland want to trade their #2 SP? Especially since the return is very short on anyone that would help in 2020.
This argument would be more persuasive if he didn’t break Covid-19 protocol right before getting traded. I highly doubt this trade happens if his team wasn’t extremely angry at him. There were rumors that some players refused to play if he stayed.
They didn’t trade Plesac for doing the exact same thing. Heck, one of the guys they got back in the trade, Austin Hedges, broke Covid protocol before the season started.
Refused to play stop. Preller lost another trade how he keeps job is unknown but but Tatis but but Paddack is incredible but but we beat .500 Cardinals team in our home park
Just FYI Dodgerforlife, the Greek orator Demosthenes was said to have treated his stutter by talking with rocks in his mouth and shouting above the roar of the ocean. Perhaps you should try that.
I think he’s Tim Dierkes’ nephew or something. Only possible explanation for how he hasn’t been banned yet despite the constant rambling, incoherent comments.
What kind of rocks?
Igneous
Crack.
March 25th, 2021: MLBTR is reporting that Dinelson Lamet will undergo Tommy John surgery.
I’ve heard this story before. They’ll both go under the knife by the second week of Spring Training.
With a short season and how well Padres did, I would just accept this season as a huge boost for next season instead of dwelling on the series loss to the Dodgers. Timing is going to catch up to the Dodgers, especially salaries. Padres just need to keep focused and will get there sooner than later
… yet
What say you now Marvel?
I still say they need pitching depth, even with Lamet and Clevinger.
They also need another LHP or 2 for the pen to pair with Strahm and Pomeranz. Watson and McFarland make sense as options.
Unfortunately MagaMan there are only 3 ways to get pitching depth: sign them, trade for them or develop them yourself. I don’t think the Padres have a whole lot of money to spend though I do expect them to sign a few pitchers. Probably cheap ones though, outside of a Rosenthal or Yates. Other than that they are currently developing several highly regarded pitching prospects. I doubt they will trade for any pitching after Clevinger as they would likely have to trade pitching for pitching.
Based on history, I don’t think anyone should trust what AJ Preller says about the medicals of his players.
Yet he’s made numerous trades since then. The industry clearly thinks your opinion ans feelings on the subject doesn’t matter…. considering he made a “few” trades this past season, 4 to be exact in 2020. Some in 2019. Some in 2018.
It’s an opinion. People are allowed to have them. Pretentious kid.
Actually the Padres made the Clevinger trade just a few hours before the trade deadline. So no, they haven’t made any trades since then because that would be against the rules.