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Padres In Talks With Kirby Yates, Still Interested In Jurickson Profar

By Steve Adams | December 31, 2020 at 12:59pm CDT

Having radically overhauled their rotation and infield mix this week with the acquisitions of Blake Snell, Yu Darvish and Ha-Seong Kim, the Padres are now shifting their focus to the bullpen and to outfield depth, per Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune. Their current pursuits include a pair of potential reunions: closer Kirby Yates and infielder/outfielder Jurickson Profar.

Yates, according to Acee, is “likely looking at” an incentive-laden deal with a guarantee upwards of $5MM. Profar’s target price isn’t fully clear, though Acee suggests the Padres’ interest has been in a deal around the $5MM range as well. There’s no indication that either Yates of Profar is close to a deal that would bring them back to San Diego, but the interest and potential price ranges are nevertheless of note.

The continued interest in Profar, in particular, was far from a given after this week’s dealings. San Diego’s four-year deal with Kim added another option to an already crowded infield mix — so much so that there have been varying reports on the possibility of toying with either Kim or 2020 Rookie of the Year runner-up Jake Cronenworth in left field. Profar would only further add another second base/left field option to the pile.

Presently, the Padres’ starting outfield is likely to consist of Wil Myers, Trent Grisham and Tommy Pham. The team does lack an experienced reserve option, though. Neither Kim nor Cronenworth has any outfield experience of note. Other options include Greg Allen, former top prospect Jorge Mateo and young Jorge Ona. San Diego also has 28-year-old Brian O’Grady on the 40-man roster at the moment, but his MLB experience is limited to 53 plate appearances. Both Allen and Mateo are out of minor league options, which would work in their favor if they made it to the end of Spring Training still on the 40-man roster, but neither impressed in 2020.

Turning to the bullpen, the Padres have a rather deep slate of options even if a reunion with Yates or a new contract with a similar veteran can’t be worked out. Both Drew Pomeranz and Emilio Pagan have considerable late-inning experience. Matt Strahm has emerged as a quality ’pen option in recent years, and righty Pierce Johnson was excellent in his return from Japan this past season. San Diego also picked up Dan Altavilla and strikeout machine Austin Adams from the Mariners in the Austin Nola/Taylor Trammell swap, and veteran Craig Stammen is still under contract for another season. None of that even gets into the bevy of young arms in the upper levels of the Padres’ system.

Still, the appeal of Yates is obvious. Though bone spurs in his elbow limited the 34-year-old to just 4 1/3 innings in 2020, Yates starred as one of baseball’s premier relievers with the Padres from 2018-19, pitching to a combined 1.67 ERA with 13.9 K/9 against 2.2 BB/9 and racking up 53 saves along the way. Few relievers on the market can match his upside, making him a particularly appealing gamble for a club with plenty of alternate depth.

This week’s flurry of activity will likely push the Padres’ 2021 payroll north of $160MM, which would position them as the rare MLB team to actually match last year’s payroll totals. Further additions, even smaller-scale pickups such as Yates or Profar, would almost certainly push San Diego’s payroll even higher than last year’s franchise-record mark.

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  1. pinkerton

    4 weeks ago

    Yates would be smart

    Profar would not be smart

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    • towinagain

      4 weeks ago

      I disagree. Profar would be brilliant. He can play any spot on the diamond. Is a solid depth piece with an underrated bat who can steal a base and really fit well in the clubhouse and with the Pads. He was clutch on multiple occasions and filled in exceptionally when Pham was down.

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      • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

        4 weeks ago

        Profar fit in terribly in the clubhouse

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        • dvmin98

          4 weeks ago

          Said no one

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          Said everyone

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        • Gwynning

          4 weeks ago

          @Remove- Completely fabricated narrative. Stop with your manufactured nonsense, please.

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          @Gwynning I will when all the people who called Luis Urias and Hunter Renfroe headcases/clubhouse cancers when they were here provide actual proof of that. Deal?

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        • Gwynning

          4 weeks ago

          You’re in your own world on that one, too. Happy New Year

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          Hey I offered you a deal that I felt was more than fair. And I still believe that.

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        • Gwynning

          4 weeks ago

          I have no idea what you’re on about. How about just stop making stuff up? Best wishes

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        • Tipsy McStagger

          4 weeks ago

          @Remove
          I don’t know your sordid history here on Trade Rumors. Maybe you defended Renfroe & Urias from accusations that had no proof/sources. Good for you. But now you make accusations against Profar without providing any source (legitimate or not). Is this just a personal beef with other people commenting on this site?

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          @Gwynning So is that a “yes” or a “no” on that deal?

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          @Tipsy why didn’t I see you getting all bent out of shape when people leveled the exact same accusations at Renfroe and Urias? Just curious.

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        • Gwynning

          4 weeks ago

          Once again, I have no idea what you are going on and on about. At this point I hope you find the help and get the answers you need. Perhaps let bygones be bygones would be a nice New Year’s resolutions for you? Cheers mate, best wishes.

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          Sorry I disrupted your echo chamber. Happy New Year :)

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        • Padres2019ha

          4 weeks ago

          Ryan is a nutcase. Said everyone

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        • Michael Handsman

          4 weeks ago

          Hi is a bad fit in the clubhouse. He has foul smelling gas

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      • nutznboltz

        4 weeks ago

        Correct!

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        • nutznboltz

          4 weeks ago

          Correct towinagain

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      • padreforlife

        4 weeks ago

        Profar has a noodle for arm

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    • mrpadre19

      4 weeks ago

      We would not have made the playoffs if we didn’t have Profar last season.
      Pham gets hurt our OF bench options are very limited.
      Padres are now trying to add to their depth(Kim,Profar) with multi position players.
      Like the Dodgers have had….You can not have too much depth.
      Esp since the Padres traded their upper level depth away(Trammell/Cordero/France/Naylor).

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      • WereAllJustGuestsHere

        4 weeks ago

        A thousand teams made the playoffs last year. They make it without Profar.

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        • lowtalker1

          4 weeks ago

          The difference is the padres had the 2nd best record in the nl and the third best record in baseball

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        • padreforlife

          4 weeks ago

          Bingo

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      • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

        4 weeks ago

        “We would not have made the playoffs if we didn’t have Profar last season.”

        Well that’s a silly thing to say. The Padres finished 8 games ahead of SF for 2nd in the division. Jurickson Profar is not worth 8 WAR.

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    • tom brunanskys black sock

      4 weeks ago

      I disagree, it’s a very good game but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever.

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      • Chief Two Hands

        4 weeks ago

        Donkey Kong sucks

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        • Poppin' Balls

          4 weeks ago

          You know something? You suck!

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        • i like al conin

          4 weeks ago

          Thaaaat Veronica Vaughn…

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    • kyleschwarbersmomkyleschwarbersmom

      4 weeks ago

      I’d like Profar on the Cubs in LF for $5M. But, you know, spending is not their thing lately.

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      • morritl

        4 weeks ago

        I think spending is not their thing goes for a lot of teams.

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        • kyleschwarbersmomkyleschwarbersmom

          4 weeks ago

          Well, $5MM would be a new high since they signed Darvish. Kimbrel doesn’t count because Julianna Zobrist got that for us.

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    • Marty McRae

      4 weeks ago

      If Profar is the last man on your bench, your team is going deep into the playoffs.

      If he’s regularly starting….meh.

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      • SalaryCapMyth

        4 weeks ago

        Marty stated it very well. Profar could be a very nice ad. It depends on what the cost is and the roll he plays on your team. I would absolutely LOVE the Braves to land him because he could be a really good super utility. Hell, if Austin Riley can’t produce better than he did in 2020 or the second half of 2019, he might become the Braves starting 3B.

        Is that kind of meh? Yes it is but it would probably be a significant improvement over Riley. The Braves kept trotting him out there despite the negative value he had for the season.

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        • SalaryCapMyth

          4 weeks ago

          Just looked at his defense at 3B. Not quite as interested in him playing 3B but I can still see him being used for days off and help out in the outfield

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      • VegasSDfan

        4 weeks ago

        Agree. He does play with a decent amount of energy.

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  2. WideWorldofSports

    4 weeks ago

    I guess the other MLB teams have decided to sit out FA this year. Go Friars

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    • jaysfansince1977

      4 weeks ago

      Wide World the Padres have only signed one FA of note in Kim, same a many other teams

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      • lowtalker1

        4 weeks ago

        They signed a couple but they are not worth mentioning and one O’Grady should never have been signed and I’m waiting for him to be dfa and removed from the 40

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      • dan55

        4 weeks ago

        The Blue Jays fan is just salty that his team hasn’t signed anyone yet.

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        • DTDATL

          4 weeks ago

          How is he salty for saying the truth?

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  3. DarkSide830

    4 weeks ago

    where on Earth does Profar fit now?

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    • towinagain

      4 weeks ago

      Fits perfectly. You can start him at third alongside Kim and Cronenworth and give Manny and Tatis a little rest. He can spell Pham or even Myers. He was great on the basepaths. With Kim, Cronenworth and Profar you now have interchangeable pieces that play multiple positions similar the Dodgers strategy.

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      • lowtalker1

        4 weeks ago

        Third? No. There is a reason he thrived in the outfield and struggled in the infield

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        • Brewer88

          4 weeks ago

          Kim would take 3rd when Manny’s not there.

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    • Brewer88

      4 weeks ago

      4th OFer (Myers and Pham get injured frequently), backup to INFers

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    • Padres r knocking on the door

      4 weeks ago

      A switch hitter. As of right now, we only have 3 lefties with regular playing time.

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    • Marty McRae

      4 weeks ago

      as the last guy on the bench, he’s elite.

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      • SalaryCapMyth

        4 weeks ago

        LOL! What would he be if he was the waterboy? Willie Mays? =D

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  4. getrealgone2

    4 weeks ago

    What are team’s obsession with Profar? Serious question.

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    • dvmin98

      4 weeks ago

      He had a great season for them maybe?

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      • Marty McRae

        4 weeks ago

        definition of “great” reallllly in the toilet now huh

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        • dvmin98

          4 weeks ago

          Did you even watch him play? I did pretty much every night. The second half of the season he was on fire, especially when Tatis went cold. Plus he played a decent LF

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        • nutznboltz

          4 weeks ago

          Dvmin98, I’ve realized that many people on here don’t really watch or follow the teams they comment on. They just talk or argue for the heck of it. Anyone that watched the Padres every game like I did would realize that Profar hit into extremely hard luck the first part of the season. He was hitting the ball on the button but either right at someone or people were making great plays on him.

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        • Marty McRae

          4 weeks ago

          No, I saw a LOT of Profar on Oakland, but I guess that never happened, huh? The yips at 2B and the black hole in the lineup?

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          Great? That’s reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaally stretching it. He was alright and he would have been worth bringing back at the right price. But there’s really no room for him with the Ha-Seong Kim signing.

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        • nutznboltz

          4 weeks ago

          What kind of logic is that? Let’s judge a guy on what he did two years ago,but not last year. Makes total sense to me. LOL

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          Having tremendous depth is always an advantage. Just ask the current World Series champion Dodgers.

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    • I Beg To Differ

      4 weeks ago

      Former top prospect in all of baseball
      Has shown signs of being a decent bat offensively past 2 out of 3 seasons
      Only 28
      Could be a quality super utility player.
      Probably won’t cost an arm and a leg, 5 mill a year.

      They probably see value on a cheap contract for multiple years.

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    • Brewer88

      4 weeks ago

      Post-hyped #1 now forgotten (not for long) and over past 2.5 seasons hitting at 20hr/15sb/255, and he’s getting better. What’s not to like for $5 mil?. Plus Preller has liked him since he was 16 yrs old

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      • Marty McRae

        4 weeks ago

        He was absolutely disgraceful for Oakland

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        • DrDan75

          4 weeks ago

          That “number one prospect in all of baseball” tag carries quite a bit of pressure and high expectations for a young guy. It also probably means that the big league club you signed with sucks and that you’re supposed to step right in and lead them out of the wilderness.

          Not surprising that Profar’s game has improved on a decent ball club.

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        • Marty McRae

          4 weeks ago

          @DrDan75 – Profar still made the playoffs on that apparently “not decent” ballclub.

          He is a marginal talent whos production is entirely reliant on luck, and its safe to say he’s terrible everywhere except LF, so his “versatility” tag isn’t even true.

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    • miggy4prez

      4 weeks ago

      I think they see his positional eligibility in their Yahoo fantasy leagues & think “oh he’s a stud”

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    • padreforlife

      4 weeks ago

      Good ? he’s average at best

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  5. Rangers29

    4 weeks ago

    Either player would help the Pads. Profar seriously looks happy in SD, and I hope he stays there. If he doesn’t I hope he goes to KC.

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    • towinagain

      4 weeks ago

      Loved him in SD last year. One of the unsung studs on the Pads. He always seemed to come up big, never complained about his role and really fit well the rest of the team. He did amazing in LF while Pham was recovering from injury. He was great!

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      • nutznboltz

        4 weeks ago

        Towinagain, you are correct again.

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  6. Mrtwotone

    4 weeks ago

    Padres are taking everyone

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    • Brewer88

      4 weeks ago

      Truly incredible they (if they sign Yates) will only equal last year’s payroll with all they have done so far.

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  7. tom brunanskys black sock

    4 weeks ago

    Melted chocolate inside the dash! That really ups the resale value

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    • WereAllJustGuestsHere

      4 weeks ago

      Unfunny lines and references or triggered comments below. Which is it? Or is this a meds issue, Dynamite Drop In Monty?

      Be better.

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      • tom brunanskys black sock

        4 weeks ago

        Prepare yourself madam, for an all out bidding war. But this time, advantage Varnson!

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    • Mrtwotone

      4 weeks ago

      Tommy boy was great

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  8. James Midway

    4 weeks ago

    Seeing a market where not a lot of teams want to dip their toes in the water, the Padres are taking full advantage of it.

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  9. Yaz1971

    4 weeks ago

    Should have been “Padres in” on everyone instead of Blue Jays. Lol

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  10. bitterpadresfan

    4 weeks ago

    I’d take Yates but if their price points are similar I think I would bring back Hand instead.

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    • Brewer88

      4 weeks ago

      Or Rosenthal

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  11. Chief Two Hands

    4 weeks ago

    Preller is losing his mind and seems desperate. Similar to when he went nuts the year he traded for Kemp. Funny to watch, though.

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    • tom brunanskys black sock

      4 weeks ago

      You’d have to be pretty thick to look at this as desperate. It appears to me that he’s being aggressive, knowing his team is in a catbird seat of contention for the foreseeable future.

      Heck, to me it seems refreshing to see a GM cut thru the usual hand wringing and hemming and hawing of “waiting out the market” to just do what he sees to be in his teams best interest. Will the moves all work? No. No ones ever always does. No ones ever really gone.

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      • Chief Two Hands

        4 weeks ago

        Kemp…keep liking your own comments, though…

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          Well you’re probably feeling what Vigo’s feeling: “Carpathian Kitten Loss.” He misses his kitty! Well, we’ll just place one in here right by the castle.

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 weeks ago

          Preller should be bending over for Bauer right about now. Go all in…40 mil for one year…still lose to the Dodgers.

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          That’s one bad hat, 2 hands.

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        • WalkerTexasBuehler

          4 weeks ago

          Dude you are NOT funny at all. Like even a little bit. Stick to commenting on baseball please, for the sake of everyone reading these comments. Nobody likes wading through a ton of stupid stuff just to get to someone who actually has something to say. Thanks.

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          Merry new year!

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        • BobGibsonFan

          4 weeks ago

          “Merry new year!”

          I am offended by that comment.

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          No more god damn jerky beef

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 weeks ago

          Happy Festivus! A Festivus for the rest of us!

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          It’s time for the feats of strength!

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 weeks ago

          I think you can take him, Georgie!

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 weeks ago

          Hoochiemama!

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          Until you pin me, 2 hands, Festivus is not over!

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 weeks ago

          Challenge accepted.

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        • NYYstateofmind

          4 weeks ago

          Festivus begins with the airing of grievances. I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you’re gonna hear about it!

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 weeks ago

          Lol yeah! Nicely done, 929! K-UGER!!

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    • brandons-3

      4 weeks ago

      I always heard the story that Preller didn’t like the farm system he inherited, so opted to go all in that year knowing if it didn’t work out, he’d just rebuild the system like he was going to have to anyways.

      I do agree though that if, after the money he’s spent, prospects he’s traded away and for, managerial moves, they didn’t make the playoffs last year he’d be gone.

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    • Hudson6

      4 weeks ago

      Aren’t the Dodgers the World Champions of depth Chief Two Hands? Yet when the Padres try to build exceptional depth Preller is losing his mind and seems desperate? How does that make sense?

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      • tom brunanskys black sock

        4 weeks ago

        I’m Ron burgundy?

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  12. I Beg To Differ

    4 weeks ago

    Padres should check on
    Tony Watson on a 2 year deal with club option for a 3rd year.

    Darren O Day on a 1 year with club option for a 2nd year

    Yusmerio Petit on a 2 year deal and club option for a 3rd year

    Anthony Bass, Ryan Buchter, Chasen Shreve, Jared Hughes on minor league invites to camp.

    Idk how much Yates will help in 2021. Personally, I feel like money can be put to better use on other guys out there.

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  13. sdsuphilip

    4 weeks ago

    Profar makes perfect sense for the Padres. He’d be the 4th OFer with protection against injuries and if the dh does happen (and I think it will, owners are just attempting to use it as leveraging tool). He’s one injury away from starting. That being said it’s debatable whether Padres make sense for profar, he should be able to get surefire starting spots elsewhere. And if he were to sign a 1 year deal another good year would get him a sizable pay raise a year from now

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  14. Sonny

    4 weeks ago

    Bring Cashner back in relief.

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  15. DTDATL

    4 weeks ago

    I think the list is shorter for the players they’re not interested in, same for the Blue Jays

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  16. Marty McRae

    4 weeks ago

    All SD has to do now to win the title is trade for Josh Hader, then sign Yates and Liam Hendriks. They can do all that by only giving up at most one of their top 10 prospects, so they end up keeping 7/10 of their top 10 when all is said and done. Would be one of the best performances by a GM in a while – get it done, Preller.

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    • PadSquad.619

      4 weeks ago

      I have been thinking Hader as well. I am not sure how many years of control he has left. I would imagine the brewers would want quite a bit. Maybe if yates and rosenthal want to take a discoutish deal. Not sure if we can fit all these

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    • lambeau gang

      4 weeks ago

      I’m sure the Brewers would love to have Grisham back. They also want to shed Avi Garcia’s salary, so would the Padres potentially acquire Hader and Garcia for a package of Grisham, Cronenworth and Morejon/Weathers? That seems doable.

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      • Laughing@You

        4 weeks ago

        My god Padre fans are drunk

        Cronenwerth had a 500 OPS in month 2 of his career
        Grisham looked like crap. They are very happy he’s gone

        No. Teams do not want your rejects for their best players

        They were asking Lux+May from LA. That’s the #2 prospect in all of baseball at the time, and May was about 20-25th. So no. Your rejects do not get you one of the best relievers in the last decade

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        • lambeau gang

          4 weeks ago

          Dude I’m a Brewer fan. I love Hader and I don’t want to see my favorite team trade one of the most dominant relievers in recent history. However, trading him would allow the Brewers an opportunity to improve the roster’s overall condition. As I previously stated, Hader is highly unlikely to land a massive haul in a trade due to concerns about velocity trends. I’ve resigned myself to that fact (which is a large reason the Brewers have not yet traded him). Grisham actually had a pretty solid full year of baseball in San Diego, and Cronenworth would be a young, affordable and promising solution to the Crew’s openings in the infield corners. Add one of their top 10 prospects in and the opportunity to shed salary, and it’s a fairly reasonable trade on both sides.

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          Now how was Laughing@You supposed to know you were a Brewers fan and not a Padres fan? I mean, just because your name is lambeau gang…

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        • Laughing@You

          4 weeks ago

          Well my bad. I just don’t see Cronenwerth and or Grisham having any real trade value. Cronenwerth tanked just 1 month into his career and Grisham just wasn’t that good in 2020

          The price for 3 years of Hader is going to hurt any team. I just don’t see those 2 carrying much weight in those talks. I hardly ever look at name so my bad lol. Just felt like a fan trading unwanted players in clumps for stars

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          It would seem that at least a few non-Padre or Dodger fans disagree with your assessment of the value of Cronenworth and Grisham.

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        • Laughing@You

          4 weeks ago

          I would say those fans probably haven’t looked at any stats and just see Cronenwerth finished 2nd in the Roy and assume he must have been good!

          If you bother to take a look, you see he was below replacement level for HALF the season. Just because fans don’t take the time to do their research doesn’t mean teams won’t be terrified of that stretch. Cinderella looked like the same player everyone thought he was when SD acquired him… a throw in

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        • padreforlife

          4 weeks ago

          Bingo

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        • sdsuphilip

          4 weeks ago

          The funny thing is you actually believe this. The Padres wouldn’t even consider Grisham straight up for Hader, they’d ask for a ton more. He’s a future 2nd tier star. Plus defender at the third most important position, plus power, good eye and good athlete. They wouldn’t have included him for snell, who is much more valuable than hader.

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        • padreforlife

          4 weeks ago

          Don’t tell Padre fan they think Cron is Joe Morgan

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        • Laughing@You

          4 weeks ago

          Truly, I blended Grisham and Pham

          Grisham had a fine year. I take back my comments regarding him. They were made with Pham’s season in mind

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      • Hudson6

        4 weeks ago

        The Padres are going for it all right now. A trade they will most certainly NOT make is any trade that leaves holes on their current team. Considering that every single one of Grisham, Cronenworth, Morejon and Weather’s are needed for this current championship attempt, this trade is not going to happen. Also, a Gold Glove CF with power, speed and tons of control is worth more than Josh Header on his own. Everyone is looking for a centerfielder.

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        • lambeau gang

          4 weeks ago

          The Pads just landed Kim to play in the infield alongside Hoz, Tatis and Manny. They’re even considering bringing back Profar, which adds another INF/UTIL option to the roster. In my projected deal, Milwaukee sends Avi Garcia back as a replacement for Grisham in the outfield, and San Diego keeps Gore and one of Morejon or Weathers alongside their MASSIVE pitching depth, both in the farm and the major leagues. This deal accounts for filling the roster gaps on both sides and presents upgrades to each team. In order to land one of the top relievers in the sport, you have to be willing to give up the appropriate players in return.

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          The Padres needed a CF after last year. That is why they picked up Grisham. He is their CF. He is a Gold Glover. They have zero replacements ready to step into that role. Avi Garcia, at 6’4″, 250lb is far, far from a CF. That leaves a titanic hole in CF. The Padres are not going to rob Peter to pay Paul.

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        • lambeau gang

          4 weeks ago

          The Brewers had to utilize Garcia in CF last year after LoCain opted out. The guy moves pretty well out there despite his size. But yes I see the concern. It’s a decision the front office would ultimately have to mull over. Is acquiring Hader worth giving up a young and promising player like Grisham? Only time will tell.

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        • padreforlife

          4 weeks ago

          Grisham a nice .250 hitter and .100 in postseason

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        • Brewer88

          4 weeks ago

          GMs don’t typically give up their 2nd best player to bring back a guy they traded away for nothing just the year before. A bad look.

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    • Laughing@You

      4 weeks ago

      And who are the brewers accepting for Hader? No way in hell he gets one guy, and the Padres have traded nearly every guy who was 5-20 in their system in the last calendar year

      Hader is gonna cost you a MASSIVE haul

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      • lambeau gang

        4 weeks ago

        The Padres’ farm is still quite deep, as they retained the vast majority of their top 10 prospects (including Gore) even after the Snell and Darvish trades.

        Hader won’t fetch the “haul” you think he will. His velocity has been trending downward (due to his delivery and mechanics) which is definitely a concern for all clubs around the league. Most clubs, including Milwaukee, are very aware that Hader’ peak has already occurred, and there is a real chance that he may not return to the same level of success if those trends continue.

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        • Laughing@You

          4 weeks ago

          “ The Padres’ farm is still quite deep, as they retained the vast majority of their top 10 prospects (including Gore) even after the Snell and Darvish trades.”

          I would argue the Padres are quickly going from “deep farm” to “top heavy farm”. That alone isn’t necessarily bad. But when it comes time to make more additions(no team is perfect at the start of ST imo)… teams are going to start demanding those top guys, or moving to other packages

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      • Cap & Crunch

        4 weeks ago

        Hader would def fetch a haul but its the Dodgers that should be looking his direction more than the Padres right now imo-

        From Lad Your probably looking at something close to a Ruiz Rios White package which is quite a bit more than I think Padre fans think they can get him for from what Im seeing here-

        If you have questions about his future best to just lay off here in a trade

        – His future to me is nothing more than the 3 years left before free agency as an LAD fan – Being sheltered during the Reg season and having 3 potential postseason runs with that weapon would have me thinking hard at pulling that trigger even given Im a big Ruiz fan and like Rios as well

        If it dont hurt, you aint gettin him

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      • Marty McRae

        4 weeks ago

        Hader gets 1 from SD’s top 10, 2-3 from top 20 and maybe a MLB piece if SD is looking to move money.

        Wil Myers might fit in Milwaukee too, right?

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        • lambeau gang

          4 weeks ago

          Not a chance unless the Pads are willing to eat at least a decent chunk of his salary (which I presume is highly unlikely). If the Brewers trade Hader, the goal is to acquire young, cheap and affordable players/prospects. I know Myers had a respectable 60-game season this past year, but his contract would not fit well in a small market like Milwaukee. The only scenario I would envision Milwaukee taking on Myers’ contract is if they are able to acquire a talent like Gore in return for the added salary weight.

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          The Padres don’t have a starting quality backup RF either. So nobody to take over RF if they trade Myers. They also refused to trade Gore for Snell, Darvish or Clevinger. I doubt they do it for Hader.

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        • Laughing@You

          4 weeks ago

          “ They also refused to trade Gore for Snell, Darvish or Clevinger. I doubt they do it for Hader.”

          Not saying Gore will be traded because I fully believe they won’t move him. BUT… there was a heckua lot more on the farm when those trades went down than now. It won’t be gore, but the Padres are running out of filler prospects before they get to the big names. Someone like Hader with 3 years of control is gonna cost some big talent

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          Which is why the Padres are currently after Yates instead of Hader.

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        • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

          4 weeks ago

          LOL! You really the the Brewers would take Wil Myers in a Hader trade!? LOL! ROFLOL! ROTFLMAO!

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          Didn’t the Padres just trade for Trevor Rosenthal and several other relievers in 2020? Can’t they just re-sign him and Yates? Wouldn’t that be a lot cheaper than trading for Hader? I mean, it wouldn’t cost them their starting CF, RF, 2B and a young pitcher.

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  17. dan55

    4 weeks ago

    I’d love to see the Padres bring back Yates. He’s elite when healthy, and he could improve our bullpen. I’d also like to see us bring back Profar, but I don’t think Profar would want to sign with us after we got Kim. He won’t get enough playing time in San Diego.

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    • Cap & Crunch

      4 weeks ago

      Better hurry w Yates-

      5+ incentives prolly has Friedman doing backflips right now

      I might even tac on a team option yr 2 with small buyout to move the needle if I was an outside force in the market

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  18. BobGibsonFan

    4 weeks ago

    Pick up Brantley.

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    • tom brunanskys black sock

      4 weeks ago

      Well, with your bad knee Ed, you shouldn’t be throwing anybody.

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      • YankeeDog

        4 weeks ago

        Weak joke. You sound like somebody who wears a mask while they drive by themselves.

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  19. Brewer88

    4 weeks ago

    No mention of Rosenthal, I thought the swinging monks were wanting him back.

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    • Gwynning

      4 weeks ago

      Won’t speak for everyone but I believe MOST want him back. I’d take Yates, too.

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  20. LaFlamaBlancaLaFlamaBlanca

    4 weeks ago

    Profar would be stupid to sign with San Diego, he needs a crappy team on which he can play 2nd base consistently. I’m actually surprised we haven’t heard interest from other teams on Kirby Yates, prior to being injured the guy was a top 10 reliever. A return to Anaheim for Yates would be welcomed lol.

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  21. JohnnyEk

    4 weeks ago

    The year is 2050.

    After the thirstiest new strain of Covid is discovered, our government has taken the “sensible” step of outlawing anyone being able to publicly cast a shadow.

    Rob Manfred, after successfully introducing the 3-inning baseball game and starting a runner between third base and home plate in extra innings, is now pushing for two live baseballs in play at all times in an attempt to appeal to the critical 5-to-9 year old market.

    …and the Padres are still trying to trade Wil Myers.

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  22. Cap & Crunch

    4 weeks ago

    Boy; they better jump quick, cause 5+ incentives is right up AF’s alley in lala land for Yates

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  23. lowtalker1

    4 weeks ago

    He is bad with the infield. He needs any team that will give him a full time job in left

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  24. lambeau gang

    4 weeks ago

    Not sure why bringing back Yates and Hand is a debate. Both are stud relievers and the Padres are clearly defying the notion of scaling back payroll in a tight financial landscape due to the pandemic. If you’re going to improve the roster, go ALL the way, not just halfway. Unless they want to use a healthy Clevinger as a closer or utilize their glut of infielders in the bullpen…

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    • padreforlife

      4 weeks ago

      Hand is a dumpster fire in postseason

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      • padreforlife

        4 weeks ago

        Far from “stud” to be stud reliever have to pitch well in clutch and he doesn’t

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  25. padreforlife

    4 weeks ago

    Weak OF

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    • Marty McRae

      4 weeks ago

      Not Dodgers-level, but still really good.

      Current depth chart is: Pham, Myers, Grisham, Cronenworth, Allen, Kim, Mateo, O’Grady.

      You would like to see a big acquisition to headline that group, but I think it’s not going to hurt anyone, especially if Myers has finally figured it out.

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  26. padreforlife

    4 weeks ago

    Profar was fan against Dodgers in DS going 0-8

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  27. YankeeDog

    4 weeks ago

    On this episode of “the Padres are the only team participating in the offseason.”

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  28. YankeesHave27

    4 weeks ago

    Pads staying busy

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  29. bravesfan

    4 weeks ago

    Yates they absolutely need. But profar doesn’t make a lot of sense unless he’s a bench piece for next to nothing. Really had his first good year last year and even then, not terribly impressive .

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    • nutznboltz

      4 weeks ago

      Profar would definitely help. The Pads bench was a major problem last year. They need to improve that.

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      • nutznboltz

        4 weeks ago

        I think one of the biggest keys to the Padres success this year is Meyers. If he can repeat last years productivity they will be fine.

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        • Brewer88

          4 weeks ago

          projecting Myers 60 (he played in 55) game 2020 to a full season: 43 HRs, 115 RBI, BA 288, Slg: .606.. MVP candidate. Yeah I think they’d be fine with that.

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        • Laughing@You

          4 weeks ago

          Lmfao. Except he’s had a 60 game hot streak every year since at least 2018 and NEVER put up numbers like that. He craters every season

          If you think you can take the hot streak of a streaky hitter and count on it over the full season, you should be all over Joc Pederson too. Reality doesn’t work that way

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        • Brewer88

          4 weeks ago

          Are you talking about Myers or Profar ( or Grisham …or Pham)? Who can tell I was being facetious to the post I responded to, if you notice. Of course Myers doesn’t put up those numbers full season he’s not Hank Aaron.

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  30. nutznboltz

    4 weeks ago

    What nobody is really talking about is the Caritini addition. If he is as good as my friend, who is a huge Cub’s fan, says he is the Pads can play Nola more in the outfield which helps their depth in the outfield quite a bit.

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    • Brewer88

      4 weeks ago

      Caratini is a known entity at this point, and a quality back-up. He gives the Pads options with Nola playing in field while providing a buffer of time for preparing elite prospect Campusano for ultimately taking over the starting job in a year or two. And if by some chance they wish to trade Campusano (who would fetch enormous trade currency), they still have Caratini and Nola in the fold, Personally I hope they keep Campusano as he looks like a special talent as long as he can stay out of legal trouble. .

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      • Laughing@You

        4 weeks ago

        No man in legal trouble who could get up to 10 years in jail has enormous trade value

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        • Brewer88

          4 weeks ago

          Lmao. 79 grams possession first time offense wouldn’t put you in jail, nor will it keep him from spring training this year. Team put out statement earlier this week clarifying status.

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        • Hudson6

          4 weeks ago

          I have heard on one of these article’s comment sections that the charges against Luis Campusano were lowered to misdemeanors. Is that wrong?

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        • Brewer88

          4 weeks ago

          Not sure. But it sounds based upon Preller interview it’s like # hrs of.community service in 2021. Bigger penalty could come internally from Padre brass, but he’s reportedly saying/doing all the right things. Cubs wanted him on Darvish trade, Pads said no.

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        • nutznboltz

          4 weeks ago

          You have to give Preller credit for getting all these players and only giving up one of his top ten prospects. They also have control over all these players for a minimum of two years. Job well done.

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