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Latest On Brad Hand

By Steve Adams | January 12, 2021 at 3:30pm CDT

3:30pm: Hand is indeed discussing multi-year deals with teams, Jesse Rogers of ESPN tweets.

11:53am: The Mets’ interest in lefty Brad Hand was already known, but SNY’s Andy Martino provides some additional context on the club’s pursuit, reporting that New York has been seeking a one-year pact that would pay Hand a bit less than the $10MM price point at which all 30 clubs passed on claiming him earlier this offseason. Hand, however, is seeking at least a two-year arrangement.

Two years for Hand has seemed plausible throughout the winter, and recent multi-year pacts for Blake Treinen ($17.5MM total) and Liam Hendriks ($54MM total) only further lend credence to the idea that he’d be justified seeking two or more years despite going unclaimed at season’s end. Notably, Martino suggests in a follow-up tweet that had the Mets’ sale to Steve Cohen gone through just days earlier, the team almost certainly would’ve claimed Hand. The Mets’ sale was finalized on Nov. 6; Hand cleared waivers on Oct. 30.

At the time Hand cleared waivers, there was surely some hesitancy from owners to commit to any notable salary additions given the uncertainty of what the upcoming 2021 season would look like. There’s still no way of definitively knowing, of course, but commissioner Rob Manfred recently instructed clubs to prepare for a full 162-game slate and for Spring Training to start on time. We don’t yet know what fan attendance will look like, however, which has hampered spending and slowed the free-agent market.

That said, there’s been plenty of interest in Hand — clearly just not at the multi-year level he prefers. In addition to the Mets, he’s been linked to the Dodgers, Blue Jays, Astros and White Sox. Reports tying Hand to L.A. and Chicago predated that pair’s respective signings of Treinen and Hendriks, so it’s possible that the extent of their interest has changed.

Based on track record, Hand stands out as the clear top lefty reliever on the market. He’s pitched to a combined 2.70 ERA and 2.79 SIERA over the past five seasons while striking out exactly one-third of the hitters he’s faced against just an 8.1 percent walk rate.

However, Hand did show some red flags in 2020, as his once 94.1 mph average fastball velocity dipped to 91.8 mph — his second straight year of a notable decline. He also benefited from a career-low .255 average on balls in play, and Hand certainly can’t be expected to go an entire season — or even 22 straight innings — without allowing a single home run again as he did in 2020. Today’s teams are far more concerned with what they project a player will do over the life of his contract than what the player has done leading up to said contract, which may help explain the disconnect between Hand’s track record his market to this point.

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  1. VonPurpleHayes

    2 weeks ago

    It seems Cohen may not want to go over the luxury tax after all. In his defense, the Mets seem like a pretty complete team already. While there are still weaknesses, I think they filled all their holes.

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    • Rangers29

      2 weeks ago

      I am pretty sure that Cohen wants to save going over the lux tax for 2022 because he knows it’s unnecessary to go over now whenever you have extensions on the horizon like Conforto and Syndergaard. I think some cheaper signings like Kluber and JBJ are reasonable, but maybe even some budget trades could be of help to them.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 weeks ago

        Yes. Smart. I think he had a brilliant offseason.

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        • Rangers29

          2 weeks ago

          He’s definatley improved the Mets more than the Wilpons ever could’ve. Just looking at the list of Lindor, Carrasco, May, McCann…. that’s insane, and he’s not even done yet.

          We all just have to remember that this is mostly Alderson and Porter’s doings. Cohen only allows it which is something that never could’ve gone on under the Wilpons.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 weeks ago

          @Rangers29 I think people are underestimating the incredible amount of luck here. 90% of the league is cutting costs,Nd the Mets get new owner with deep pockets. Sandy and Porter are making good moves, but honestly it’s easy to spend in this market wjen you were the only team not impacted by the pandemic revenue loss.

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        • metslvt17

          2 weeks ago

          The timing was perfect. No doubt.

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      • I Beg To Differ

        2 weeks ago

        Jackie Bradley Jr would be a great signing. Nimmo Conforto and Bradley Jr would be a good outfield

        They should sign James Paxton and shift him to the pen. At this point injuries have derailed his starter career. Might be able to convince him to do so just like it saved Brad Hand, Andrew Miller.

        Bringing in cheaper depth would be good too. Kluber, Wood, taking a chance on Trevor Williams or Brad Peacock.

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        • Rangers29

          2 weeks ago

          Idk, I think Paxton might be too expensive to sign just to try him out in the pen directly after. A project like that should cost less than 10 mil. However, I do agree that it should be considered.

          JBJ would be able to surveil their outfield well (unlike their other options), and provide them with some defensive ability that they don’t have a lot of on the team.

          Kluber imo would be the best guy to bring in as a starter because of the experience. He has pitched in tight spots, and I think he has the stuff to show that he’s still a dang good starter.

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        • BrianInWI

          2 weeks ago

          Two problems with Jackie Bradley, Jr. on the Mets.
          1. He can’t hit.
          2. He’s lefthanded.

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        • Sonny

          2 weeks ago

          I think Cashner has a lot left in his tank. He is better than his record shows.

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        • jakec77

          2 weeks ago

          If you can’t hit, who cares whether you are lefthanded or right-handed.

          I’m a switch hitter myself- I am equally good hitting from either side of the plate.

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        • alproof

          2 weeks ago

          Nah. Nimmo has to leave in a trade (so do Matz and Gsellman). The everyday OF must be Dom Smith, George Springer, Michael Conforto.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 weeks ago

          @alproof

          But but but…@MetsFan22 says that Nimmo is a Top 5 CF.

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        • andremets

          2 weeks ago

          Omg, will you stop it? Do the Marlins have even one player better than Nimmo? You have a weird obsession. Just admit you are wrong. Nimmo is a solid ball player and very comparable to a Shin Soo Choo in his prime.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 weeks ago

          Marlins have multiple players better than Nimmo. Nimmo would be our 4th OF or platoon. He does not fit what we do.

          Shin Soo Choo in his prime batted .300 (.278 lifetime), hit 20 HRs, and would steal 20 bases with his OBP. And Choo was a good baserunner. Nimmo is not comparable at all.

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        • Cosmo2

          2 weeks ago

          Nimmo would be a 4th OFr on the Marlins only if you were the manager. You’d promptly be fired. No major league team believes the old school nonsense that you evaluate players by. It’s the stuff of talk radio, but contrary to the beliefs of every front office.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 weeks ago

          Hmmmm….he doesn’t run bases well, despite having nice speed. He doesn’t field the ball well. He doesn’t hit well when he swings.

          So how is this guy considered so good?

          I didn’t realize that running bases, playing defense, and the ability to be successful when you have to swing the bat was “old school”.

          But I get why you stats guys fight so hard for guys like Nimmo. You all bought into your Little League coach’s instructions telling you guys that couldn’t hit, to crowd the plate to get a walk because it’s just as good as a hit. You all didn’t realize that coach wanted you to get on base to roll over the lineup over for his star hitters to come up. Or perhaps Daddy was your coach, which in that case, you didn’t realize that he needed to justify why you were batting first even though you couldn’t hit, and you were playing SS because “positions don’t matter”. You didn’t know that it was him playing you over the star kids that were more deserving, and him looking for an excuse every time parents questioned his decision making.

          This is why all you stats guys think none of these things matter. Only to you all can a guy suck at so many things, but you argue that he’s a good player when he does one thing that is essentially going to the plate and praying for a walk because he can’t hit well. You all relate to that.

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      • bleedblueandorange

        2 weeks ago

        And canos money goes back on the books

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    • RunDMCRunDMC

      2 weeks ago

      True, but don’t you think they could use Hand to better fill all their holes?

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      • joeyrocafella

        2 weeks ago

        There are more holes that RP… CF is in need of a major upgrade, hence all the JBJ and Springer discussions. But Hand would address one hole for sure

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        • Rangers29

          2 weeks ago

          Hey Joey, I think RunDMC made a poorly executed joke lol.

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        • MetsFan22

          2 weeks ago

          CF need defensive help but for offensive production Nimmo is top 5. Idk if you really say that’s a “hole”.

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        • matteste187

          2 weeks ago

          That’s y I feel a trade for josh hader would be smart. Cheap like Diaz is and if u can extend both Diaz and hader, that’s a damn good 1-2 in the back end. Plus money to still sign kluber, jbj, and marisnick. I’m still hopeful will DH will in effect to save us. Would a cherry on top of an amazing offseason. Great days ahead for us met fans. Amazin days for us DIE HARDS.

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        • Cosmo2

          2 weeks ago

          What do they have to give up for Hader? Subtracting from the ML roster makes no sense and I don’t wanna give up any top prospects. I’d likely pass on Hader as the price will be too steep.

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        • RunDMCRunDMC

          2 weeks ago

          @Rangers29
          Poorly executed? Eduard Delacroix (Michael Jeter) was poorly executed in The Green Mile. My comment was a double entendre. And if joeyrocafella thinks that Hand would address one hole for sure — kid’s gotta lot to learn.

          Sorry, slow news cycle.

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        • Rangers29

          2 weeks ago

          I got the joke, but I could see where people would get confused. Guess that’s their fault though.

          BTW, I see what you did there. I bet you could say stuff like that all day lmao.

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        • BrianInWI

          2 weeks ago

          Dominic Smith for Hader would probably get it done. That might be a bit steep for the Mets, but on the other hand, Smith doesn’t really fit in the Mets’ lineup, especially if they sign a CFer and push Nimmo to LF.

          Maybe Smith for Hader and a RH complement to JBJ? Corey Ray, perhaps?

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        • Cosmo2

          2 weeks ago

          No way! DH is coming next year if not this and we’ll regret trading Smith when it does… plus I wouldn’t ever trade a potential superstar everyday player for a reliever.

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        • BrianInWI

          2 weeks ago

          A Diaz/Hader R/L combo in the bullpen could be deadly. And Hader can pitch multiple innings, which in turn could help the Mets still-thin rotation.

          I like both Dom and JD Davis, but they’re both spare parts right now. If moving them gets the right pieces for the Mets to win a World Series, I’m all for it.

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        • DTDATL

          2 weeks ago

          Nimmo is a top 5 CF only in your mind

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        • BrianInWI

          2 weeks ago

          Fangraphs has Nimmo as 3rd in the NL, 9th overall.
          fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=CF

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          2 weeks ago

          Nimmo Top 5 in CF? Wait…5 teams in the NL East. Okay, I guess he’s Top 5 in the NL East, so I get it.

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        • Perksy

          2 weeks ago

          Also with injuries now more than ever in MLB it is nice to have the added depth. If they can keep them even with other additions.

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        • JoeBrady

          2 weeks ago

          Fangraphs has Nimmo as 3rd in the NL, 9th overall.
          ———————————————–
          You can’t count on FG because they commingle stats from all three OF positions. The issue is that Nimmo is not a CF. His UZR/150 is -12.5 with -14 DRS in only 1,027 innings. Pretty bad.

          And he’s never had more than 350 Innings in CF. He’s really not a CFer.

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        • BrianInWI

          2 weeks ago

          I’d be much happier with George Springer in CF and Nimmo in LF. Nimmo’s actually a pretty good defensive leftfielder. But, I’m thinking a Springer contract may be out of reach — even for Steve Cohen.

          Jackie Bradley, Jr. would be a good defensive-minded backup plan, but he’s an abysmal hitter, and he’s lefthanded to boot. He’ll just be too expensive for what he brings to the table. If Mets are out on Springer, I’d rather they go for a cheap defensive CF (Pillar?) and go bigger on another starting pitcher (Odorizzi, Tanaka, Kluber?).

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        • metslvt17

          2 weeks ago

          I’m trading Nimmo before Smith

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        • andremets

          2 weeks ago

          1b/dh is by far the easiest position to replace. It wouldnt cost much to pick up a Josh Bell or Matt Olsen.

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        • Luc 2

          2 weeks ago

          Josh Bell already traded to my Nats and Matt Olsen wont be traded unless mets offer something good

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        • BartoloHRball

          2 weeks ago

          The DH is a much needed option for the Mets. Dom is a better glove at 1B, so as long as Pete Alonso can adjust to being a part-time DH, they can split time and maximize their talent. They also have JD Davis who is a bat w/o a position. Maybe he plays 3B, but word is that Guillorme is well liked and might get a shot at 3B, or McNeil. I still think McNeil at 2B, JD & Guillmoe splitting time at 3B is the best setup.

          Nimmo is very underrated for them. He is a mediocre defensive CF, but he gets on base a ton and he takes a bunch of pitches and frustrates pitchers.. Conforto obviously needs to be in there. Springer clearly is an upgrade, though I’d rather make sure Conforto is extended, Lindor is extended, and (if healthy) Syndergaard are extended.

          Springer must really not want to land in TOR to circle back around to the Mets. I think the Mets continue to wait bc NO ONE is signing right now, none of the top FA at least. The Mets are one of the few clubs that are willing to spend $$ and so far have done it smartly. That Hendrik signing was a huge overpay.

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    • rct

      2 weeks ago

      Another starter, even a project or a buy-low candidate, is necessary, imo. Same with another OF. They don’t need any big names, but they do need a little depth in both places.

      Hand would be an awesome pick-up, though, if they can manage the $$.

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    • jimthegoat

      2 weeks ago

      BeSt TeAm In ThE nL!

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    • bleedblueandorange

      2 weeks ago

      Don’t forget as of now Canos money gets put back on the books for next year and the next. Going over the luxury tax may already have happened for those years

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  2. mlbnyyfan

    2 weeks ago

    Yankees could of taken a chance on Hand instead of paying more for Britton especially if they are on a budget.

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    • Tatsumaki

      2 weeks ago

      Britton is also way better than hand and doesnt have injury history

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      • I Beg To Differ

        2 weeks ago

        What?

        Hand has appeared in 82 games, 72 games, 69 games, 69 games, and 60 games from 2016-2019. He appeared in 23 games out of 60 last year.

        As a set up man he appeared in 40-50% of games.

        As a closer closer to 40% of games.

        Even with injuries here and there’s hes durable and played.

        Also 2017 and 2018 Britton was limited due to injury……only played 38 and 41 games those seasons. He had injuries last year too with the hamstring

        Not really proving your point.

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  3. Rangers29

    2 weeks ago

    People should be hesitant of Hand’s velo drop imo. If relievers are the most volatile position in baseball, then relievers with velo drops are even more volatile. Elbow or shoulder concerns?

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    • seth3120

      2 weeks ago

      Rangers I know velocity drop is an indicator teams look see as a flag for decline but he pitched quite well with that decline last year

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      • Rangers29

        2 weeks ago

        It’s called being crafty, but that doesn’t mean that his injuries have disappeared.

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  4. bkbkbkbk

    2 weeks ago

    Hand at 2/15 would be a good deal for a team like the halos

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  5. cwsAscension

    2 weeks ago

    Hope Colome also gets 2yrs, just not with the Twins. He is a crafty one who would get WSox hitters to chase junk.

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  6. Pete'sView

    2 weeks ago

    I can’t imagine that the Giants won’t consider 2/$16 for Hand.

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  7. whyhayzee

    2 weeks ago

    He should go on a one year to the Orioles, Blue Jays or Cardinals. Anything for two years is bush.

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    • Armaments216

      2 weeks ago

      A Brad in the Hand is worth 2 years with any of these birds in the bush.

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  8. VonPurpleHayes

    2 weeks ago

    Phillies will sign Hand only for him to injure himself in spring training, or take a line drive to the testicles. Both of these things happened to Phillies relievers last season.

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    • Mrtwotone

      2 weeks ago

      Or pull a David Robertson

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  9. philsphan1979

    2 weeks ago

    Phillies BETTER get their guy! All this talk a few years ago, wanting to trade Franco, and a bunch of guys to SD for him…Now he’s a Free agent and their not even making an attempt? He is what Philly needs right now MORE than REALMUTO

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    • kreckert

      2 weeks ago

      Maybe we should get together and send Middleton a crowbar so he can get his wallet open. Just a thought.

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    • andremets

      2 weeks ago

      A lefty reliever is more important than the best catcher in baseball?

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  10. Evan Siggson

    2 weeks ago

    I still don’t understand why every team passed on Hand in waivers.

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    • Mrtwotone

      2 weeks ago

      It still blows my mind considering the braves signed will Smith for 3yrs 40 million

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      • Prospectnvstr

        2 weeks ago

        The Braves overpaid for Will Smith. Take a look at how many relief pitchers are still out there. Most, not all, of them are 1-1.2 innings per outing. How many MILLIONS of dollars is it really worth paying these guys? I’m not saying to pay them league minimum by any stretch but if a top 10 RP is “worth” any more than $10,000,000.00 per yr for the lack of work (innings pitched) then practically every #3 starter should be paid at least that.

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    • Spike 13

      2 weeks ago

      Because they want the players to sweat a bit and sign 1yr deals for short money. We’re a month away from ST and the clubs have the players right where they want them.

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  11. Mrtwotone

    2 weeks ago

    The braves need to throw 2yr 16 million at him with an option or a 2 million dollar buy out

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  12. tjmacari

    2 weeks ago

    I heard the A’s need a closer…

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    • solaris602

      2 weeks ago

      And they’re actively in the market for one that won’t cost them anything

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  13. padam

    2 weeks ago

    Mets – 2/17.5M.

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    • Bill M

      2 weeks ago

      That’s about what I was thinking. 2 years / 17-18 million should do it for the Mets, or any other interested team

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  14. Frahm_

    2 weeks ago

    Hendriks really isn’t much better than him not sure why their value is so different

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    • Rangers29

      2 weeks ago

      Stats might not seem too different, but it’s because Hand has had a drastic velo drop recently while Hendriks is still pumping electric stuff by hitters.

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      • CNichols

        2 weeks ago

        Yeah it has to be the velo drop. Teams are paying for future performance and they think Hendriks is better positioned for it since he’s seemingly at the top of his game right now.

        Although if my choices were Hand 2Y/$18M or Hendriks 4Y/$54M (ignoring the weird option for simplicity’s sake), then I’m taking Hand every time because the guaranteed money is 3x less and the gap between them isn’t big enough to account for that.

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  15. Cosmo2

    2 weeks ago

    “Today’s teams are much more concerned with what they project a player will do over the life of his contract than what the player has done leading up to said contract.” Amen. As it should be. Now if someone could just explain this to half the fans out there. Let’s start with those clamoring for their team to sign LaMahieu, trade for Arenado, or toss 300 million dollars contracts at every under 30 free agent superstar.

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  16. hawkvet

    2 weeks ago

    Two years at $15M and that’s my final offer

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  17. MoneyBallJustWorks

    2 weeks ago

    blue jays 2 year 18 million

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  18. jvent

    2 weeks ago

    If the Mets can’t get Springer and Hand I’ll be satisfied with JBJ/Pederson,Hand and Kluber.

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    • rct

      2 weeks ago

      You’ve got Hand in there twice, fyi

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      • Spike 13

        2 weeks ago

        Put your hands together

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  19. king beas

    2 weeks ago

    Mets should’ve just claimed him they need him so bad with no left handed options in the pen unless matz gets moved to the pen full time

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    • Bill M

      2 weeks ago

      If (when) Matz gets moved to the pen full time, they still will have no left handed options. The best option for him is a minor league option

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    • BartoloHRball

      2 weeks ago

      The Mets hadn’t yet transitioned ownership, so the Coupons/Wilpons were still in control and they didn’t want to spend $10m/1yr on Hand. A couple/few weeks later Steve Cohen took over and hired Sandy. Both Steve and Sandy wanted Hand, but they weren’t in control, so the Mets under Wilpon control let Hand pass through waivers.

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  20. angt222

    2 weeks ago

    Mets should give him $16M for 2 yrs. They need a reliable back end LHP

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  21. Dan Hunter

    2 weeks ago

    Springer over Hand
    They are set with relievers.

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  22. VonPurpleHayes

    2 weeks ago

    It’s interesting to me how many Mets fans want more relievers. I think it’s still trauma from 2019, or just greed now that they have money to spend, but the Mets bullpen is real solid already. Any further adds should be in CF and 3B, both for defensive reasons.

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    • BrianInWI

      2 weeks ago

      Only lefties in Mets bullpen are Daniel Zamora and (maybe) Steven Matz. I wouldn’t trust either one. They need a quality lefthander.

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    • Cap & Crunch

      2 weeks ago

      Totally agree Von, not an area of concern but if value presents itself you can still pounce –

      Id just re-sign J Wilson, he seems to have found a home out there

      CF SP JWilson with the last 20 mill which leaves a little cushion for deadline deals

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      • BrianInWI

        2 weeks ago

        Works for me. Pillar, Tanaka, JWilson?

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    • rct

      2 weeks ago

      @Von: It’s trauma, but not just from 2019. It dates back to (at least) Armando Benitez, Bradon Looper, etc.

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  23. jimthegoat

    2 weeks ago

    Idk. Literally all 30 teams could have had Brad Hand for 1/$10m a few weeks ago and they all took a hard pass. I have all the same concerns I had then and maybe a bit more.

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    • lolzmets

      2 weeks ago

      Maybe you should post your tired narrative about the Realmuto trade for like the 500th time.

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      • tom brunanskys black sock

        2 weeks ago

        Do you offer anything here besides just sadly picking fights with people who barely acknowledge your presence?

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        • WeeWoo

          2 weeks ago

          @tom nah fam. He also corrects people’s grammar.

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      • jimthegoat

        2 weeks ago

        I’d challenge you to a battle of wits but I see you’re unarmed

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  24. padreforlife

    2 weeks ago

    Problem with Brad Hand is that he’s a dumpster fire in clutch

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  25. Rsox

    2 weeks ago

    Hendricks coming off the market basically leaves Hand, Alex Colome, Kirby Yates and Trevor Rosenthal as the closer market in free agency. I would like to see any one of them closing games for the Red Sox next season

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    • tom brunanskys black sock

      2 weeks ago

      Lol imagine thinking a closer makes a difference when you have a .500 team. Let D Hernandez close.

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      • Rsox

        2 weeks ago

        If a Closer makes no difference then what did the White Sox just pay $54 million for?

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    • bobtillman

      2 weeks ago

      Eckersely’s closing for the Sox this year. Very versatile; broadcast 7 innings, get dressed, pitch the 9th…..it works. ….

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  26. Shoeless Joe

    2 weeks ago

    I really think the Mets should give HAND a JOB

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  27. Spike 13

    2 weeks ago

    Cleveland handed Hand to both league’s. No one forced their hand or raised their hand. They sat on their hands because their hands were tied. Hand never had a hand in it. Now teams are scrambling to sign Hand. Let’s give em all a hand.

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    • bobtillman

      2 weeks ago

      But what is the sound of one Hand with the clap?

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      • tom brunanskys black sock

        2 weeks ago

        Avoid the clap – Jimmy Duggan

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    • WeeWoo

      2 weeks ago

      Jim Abbott approves this message.

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  28. SFGiantsFan09

    2 weeks ago

    Why didn’t anyone claim him? Did I miss something? Last I checked he was pretty solid from San Diego on, but I don’t pay attention to the Indians so I could be wrong

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    • CNichols

      2 weeks ago

      Two main reasons:

      1. Velocity drop. In 2018 when he was with the Padres he was averaging 94.1 mph on his fastball and last year he averaged 91.8 mph, so for someone who is going to be 31 years old this year, they see that as the beginning of his decline.

      2. Teams are cheap. Besides the aforementioned Padres no one is really spending big this year and if someone claimed Hand it meant adding $10M to payroll. I assume whoever gets him it will be on a two year deal with a lower AAV than that.

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      • lordd99

        2 weeks ago

        I suspect the velocity drop was of minor concern since it’s a one-year claim and he’s effective. More likely it had to do with when he was released as teams were dealing with their 40 man roster and, more importantly, they themselves were trying to figure out how the offseason was going to play out. They gambled he might go cheaper. Now, he likely signs for more than one year. Maybe his AAV is lower than $10M—maybe—but I suspect some teams if they could have a do over now would claim him.

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        • CNichols

          2 weeks ago

          I totally agree, if teams had a do over now it would make sense for a lot more of them to claim him. Especially seeing how Treinen and Hendriks have done so far in free agency. I don’t know what the White Sox situation was with their 40 man and budget projections, but hindsight 20/20 Hand at 1Y/$10M seems like a better position to be in than Hendriks 4Y/$54M so theoretically they should have jumped on it, along with the Mets and some others.

          I don’t see him getting an AAV over 10M. His situation is a little different, but with some of the better non-tenders like Dahl, Schwarber etc… they usually end up with right around what they were going to get before being let go. Dahl was projected at like $2.7M and then signed for that with Texas, Schwarber projected at $7M and then signs for that much with Washington (although admittedly he has more guaranteed because of a buyout). So ultimately with Hand I just don’t see him getting more than the 10M he was going to get anyways.

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  29. Yep it is

    2 weeks ago

    Same article on Hand today. Oh I forgot it’s the Mets. Coming up at 8:00 what Hand had for dinner while contemplating the METS

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    • Bill M

      2 weeks ago

      Finger food, I assume

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  30. Niedenfuer92

    2 weeks ago

    Why the Twins haven’t signed him is beyond me. He wants to come to MN, would be a tremendous boost for a bullpen that lost Trevor May, Hand is probably even an upgrade.

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    • Twodogs

      2 weeks ago

      Yeah hopefully the Twins get something more than Robles. Hand would be a nice fit since he’s from Minnesota and a lot of players don’t really want to go there. But Rosenthal would be cool.

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  31. Vince Camp

    2 weeks ago

    As an Indian fan I’m grateful to Hand for giving us a couple of good years. However when we needed him most in game 2 against the yanks he took the pipe big time. He certainly is worth a look see,but a two year deal for 15mil at age 31? I know I cheer for a cheap ownership,but that’s too much for a guy like Hand.Not everyone can be Mariano Rivera,but this guy has got a few kinks in his armor. It’s your money,but I’m glad he’s not in Cleveland anymore.

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  32. JohnInSouthJersey

    2 weeks ago

    Hi Brian,

    No hate man, but I’m sure glad you’re not the Mets GM. :-)

    Dom is not a “spare part.” He’s a Top 3 hitter on the team; young, favorably contracted, and an original Met.

    I know, no one is untradeable, but it would have to be really special. That trade proposal is not. Dom is special. :-)

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