MARCH 23: Gallen has a “hairline stress fracture of his right lateral forearm at the radial end,” Zach Buchanan of The Athletic tweets. Gallen can keep playing catch at a low-stress level, but there’s no timeline for his return.
MARCH 22: Diamondbacks right-hander Zac Gallen was scratched from his scheduled Cactus League start today due to right lateral forearm soreness, manager Torey Lovullo told MLB.com’s Steve Gilbert (Twitter links) and other media.
Gallen is still being evaluated, and he has been receiving treatment on the problem for the last 10 days. This would seem to indicate that Gallen has been dealing with the injury through at least one of his last two spring outings, though it hasn’t seemed to impact his results — the righty has a 2.13 ERA through four games and 12 2/3 innings during Spring Training.
Somewhat unusually, Gallen’s problem emerged while swinging a bat rather than throwing. He told Gilbert and other reporters that his forearm began to feel sore after he was jammed with a pitch while taking swings in a batting cage. (Should Gallen’s injury prove to be serious, he could quite possibly become the face of the dispute over the universal DH not being re-implemented for the 2021 season.) In terms of pitching, Gallen said he was able to throw most of his pitches without issue, only feeling soreness when throwing a curveball.
Needless to say, the D’Backs will be as cautious as possible in monitoring any sort of forearm problem for a pitcher who looks to be the burgeoning ace of the rotation. Gallen has been very impressive over 152 career MLB innings with the Marlins and Diamondbacks, posting a 2.78 ERA/408 SIERA and an above-average 28.5K%. Gallen had some control issues in his 2019 rookie season but reduced his walk rate from 10.8% in 2019 to 8.6% in 2020.
NOOOOOOOO!
Pitchers stop taking the bat off your shoulder 2021 challenge! That sucks, hopefully hes not out long term.
Yeah, ohtani should never swing at another pitch in his entire career. Everyone knows that these guys who pitch have COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN how to swing a baseball bat. They hit in their youth (Little League/Hot Stove), they hit in high school, many have hit in college. All of a sudden they just forget how to hit. A catcher should never bat, he’s to valuable as a pitch framer to take a chance on getting injured batting or he might get hit in the hand & won’t be able to throw the ball back to the pitcher. There’s 9 positions on the baseball diamond. Every position plays defense AND every position SHOULD play offense. If you want to add a 10th position to be a hitter only, fine.
I’ll rephrase. Every pitcher not named Ohtani or Lorenzen don’t take the bat off your shoulder 2021 challenge!
Minor league pitchers pitch once every five days if they are lucky. Minor league hitters hit 4 to 5 times a day. An average minor leaguer gets about 1,500 ABs. So, you expect a pitcher to go up against the best pitching in the World with 300 ABs under their belt?
Batting .285 in your first 700 at-bats is pretty good for someone who should never swing at another pitch again.
“ There’s 9 positions on the baseball diamond. Every position plays defense AND every position SHOULD play offense. If you want to add a 10th position to be a hitter only, fine.”
So after ranting a bit, you basically said you’re pro DH.
No, pitchers are paid big money to pitch not hit. No reason they should have to hit.
This season will be the last, anyway with the CBA coming.
You bring up Ohtani??? The Angel’s ace that has pitched less than 60 innings total in 3 seasons due to injuries. Who is way more valuable as a starting pitcher to the Angels than a position player or DH. The last thing he needs is another injury regardless if its pitching, hitting, running the bases, or fielding.
There have been lots of pitchers who can hit that did not come from Japan.
Hopefully not major I want to see a full season from him
That sucks. Always hate to hear those words
Time to call Cole Hamels.
I doubt about Hamel, there is a reason he is still a free agent and appears to be a lack of interest. . Odds say he is not 100%
The other thing that I keep thinking about with Hamels is that he’s got about $200M in career earnings. Before it got prorated last year that was an $18M deal, so he might not be interested in anything small.
If he’s getting offers/interest in terms of like a minor league deal with an invite to spring training or something where they aren’t guaranteeing him a roster spot/earnings then maybe he’s just not interested in that after how well he’s done for himself over his career.
I’ve read a couple times about a showcase he had scheduled for teams that didn’t end up happening and no rumors about him since so I’m assuming he’s not healthy atm.
Cole doesnt need to pitch anymore and that’s probably why he’s still a free agent. He lives on the water in SoCal and has property on the east coast as well. Beautiful wife and family. He’s accomplished a lot in his career and he owns a ring. Might be in the 95th or so percentile in worst run support since his rookie year in ’08, should have at least 25 more wins. Anyway I think he’s going to retire.
Good for him to retire and good for baseball.
Ugh. Pitchers getting hurt while hitting drives me up a wall
Ohanti can say otherwise for pitchers that can hit and pitch.
Well… we haven’t seen him do a lot of pitching to be honest.
I’d argue Lorenzen should be the face of pitchers hitting more than ohtani but whatever
Lorenzen has been a 2 way player since he was a kid. Played CF+ closed in college. He clearly had a training regime down that worked for both, and it’s transitioned well to the majors. Ohtani seems to need to tweak his plan further
And at the end of the day. If a team really thinks they have one pitcher who can outhit their DH, they can have their pitcher hit and forfeit the DH. But for 1/100,000 guys who ACTUALLY hit and pitch at a true MLB level, sure seems smarter to protect the masses. A pitcher throwing a pitch is in infinitely more valuable than he is with a bat. Why waste their training time on a useless part of their craft, when they will never be compensated for being a slightly better than horrible hitter? They have a finite amount of training time. Time wasted hitting or weight lifting specifically for hitting is time lost forever. Meanwhile They sure as heck will be if they can add a few hundred RPM to their FB. It’s not a hard decision
Why? They get hurt doing everything. The cubs had a pitcher get hurt putting his pants on, the giants had one get hurt riding a dirt bike. The injury rates for A.L and N.L pitchers have been pretty much the same since the A.L. went with the DH in 72. If you favor the DH that’s one thing but using injury as your basis is fraudulent and easily refuted.
Hurt while swinging the bat. Smh. See why it’s time to have the Universal DH? He shouldn’t have swinging the bat to begin with. Manfred must go!
nope
Compelling rebuttal, darkside.
a fitting rebuttal for a hackneyed argument. anything that happens is an excuse for the DH. the OP’s comment implys its some univerally held belief that there should be a DH when in reality its pretty obvious that’s not the case.
Think op’s comment simply used this example of a pitcher hurting himself while batting as evidence that perhaps pitchers shouldn’t be doing something they don’t train for. The notion that he implies it’s a “universally held belief” is absent from his post, and seems more like emotional projection on your part. I’m all for a spirited discussion on the issue, of course. But “nope” is silly, pointless, meritless, and a waste of time response.
Nope.
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a fitting rebuttal for a hackneyed argument. anything that happens is an excuse for the DH. the OP’s comment implys its some univerally held belief that there should be a DH when in reality its pretty obvious that’s not the case.”
There’s no way you can say it’s obvious it’s not the case. The only leaks we’ve heard is both sides DO want the DH, but they are more concerned about how conceding it now would impact CBA negotiations and their respective leverage. really, his opinion is based on everything that’s been reported. Pretending it’s obvious some side hates the dh is just ignoring the leaks that have come out
Wrong.
I agree. Manfred sucks
BINGO. Preaching to the choir. I hope he’s ok if he’s really hurt I hope that forces MLB’s hand. Universal DH be around next year, why wait? Pitchers are going to have enough problems going from 65 innings to 200. Pitchers getting hurt hitting is going to drive managers crazy.
Ohanti can say otherwise for pitchers that can hit and pitch.
while I’ll think it awesome seeing an old school pitcher that can rake as well..Ohtani is definitely an exception and not a model, especially in today’s age of specialization training
These guys are athletes. They know how to play their defensive positions AND they know how to hit. They’ve done it for years, until they became professionals. Then the teams hypnotized (brainwashed) them w the notion: You’re a PITCHER, from now on you’ll forget how to swing a bat. The more you practice, the better you get. Simple concept. If any athlete stops practicing their routine their performance will regress. This goes for everyday life as well.
The problem isn’t that they don’t know how to hit the problem is that they’re horrendously bad at it. I understand wanting to not change the game you love. There’s certain rules I’m a bit iffy onas well. But Saying “oh they’re athletes they they just need to practice” makes it seem like it’s super easy to be a good hitter. Being a pitcher is hard enough, with such a short shelf life that it just isn’t worth the risk, not when guys are all throwing 98 with wicked sliders. You can’t take Mike trout and say hey bro go be a pitcher and throw 98 with a slider. So why expect pitchers to be able to do the same?
Something happens to one guy and everyone wants to change the rule? The DH blows. Always has.
Outlaw pants , a pitcher once got hurt putting on a pair. As stated above there is virtually no difference between AL and NL pitcher injury rates since the AL adopted the DH.
Sorry to see this – how before @Remove posts the TJ surgery “facts”?
Dang. The obsession is real.
getting hurt while swinging a 2lb piece of wood should not be the reason to implement the DH… geezo
You got at least one owner who is going to vote for Universal DH in the next CBA
Pretty sure we can add Atlanta’s owner to the list.
Add The Milwaukee Brewers, St Louis Cardinals, Boston Red Sox too
by that logic Giancarlo Stanto should have someone hit for him.
lol! Good point.
Samuel L. Jackson: “They called me Mister Glass”
Giancarlo Stanton: “Hold my knee brace”
See, fellas.
School on this ^.
That’s a good troll @darkSide830.
Made me laugh. & a brutal grain of truth to it. +1. If all of your attempts were this quality I’d enjoy your mundane little act, serious.
Please. Keep up the good work. Hoping you don’t backslide into your normal sub par efforts.
After this, that would be disappointing.
🙁
dude its not trolling. it happened to him a few years ago in Miami. utmost respect for Stanton as a player. he’d be an inner circle HOFer if his heath held up.
I’ve always been a strong opponent of the DH because it takes away 90% of the managerial strategy. BUT, after seeing it in the NL last year – the game evolves – no one wants to see a pitcher bat (except for Madbum).
After watching him last season, I’d rather see Madbum hit than pitch.
Ohanti can say otherwise for pitchers that can hit and pitch.
So that’s one. Just one?
for me it is more that having it in the NL with the roster expansion felt fine, I didn’t actually miss the strategy aspect as much as I have always been against the DH. I mean given the opportunity I would probably rather both leagues have an additional place in the order for a dh AND the pitcher has to bat – or that you are required to burn a bench piece during a pitching change in late innings in order to keep some of the strategy but – yo know most people would rather just have a DH and I am fine with that
To claim there can’t be strategy is just a lazy argument
By that logic, there’s never been strategy in the AL? Cmon
MLBTRs non stop pro-DH bandwagon is making me seriously reconsider my paid membership. An entire off-season of “untill the DH question is settled” is enough.
I didn’t read this article and assume it was pro DH. It stated the debate is unsettled, and this is another data point supporting its implementation.
I agree this site is so biased about many things and it is such a shame as it really provides great baseball content and is a fun social media experience. Even sports are being ruined these days by groupthink.
They have an opinion….so what….there’s 2 choices, and theirs just doesn’t happen to line up with yours so you protest? (or strongly consider canceling) ?
Does anyone here listen too The Chris Rose Rotation podcast?
Heard of it. I’ve been there at launch for talkin baseball, and I can’t listen to Jomboy anymore. He always has to be right and he’s so afraid of critics, which being in the internet, will always exist. Theres other reason I don’t care for them anymore that aren’t for here. That being said, I’ve not listened to the Chris rose podcast. How did mlb network let him go?!?
I don’t think the DH fiasco will be completley solved until CBA Negotiations next off season. I think it’ll be better for the game long term with the DH in both leagues. Not only will it lead to less hitting related injuries to pitchers (although they are infrequent), it’ll add more action to the game and make pitching more fun to watch, imo. Since 1970, pitchers have had a positive wRC+ 9 times, maxing out at 15 in 1974 and the rest of the positives being in the single digits. Plus, to me, I’d rather see a pitcher who is dealing to keep dealing rather than to be pulled because his spot comes up in the order soon.
It’s absolutely ridiculous that the N.L. went back to having no DH. It was all because the owners and players couldn’t be adults and work things out amicably. They used the universal DH as a bargaining chip, didn’t that work out terrifically… It makes no sense, especially if they’re still planning on implementing it in 2022 as rumored.
there is no given it even happens. the reason its not here yet is the owners think the players want it more then they actually do and always overplay their hand. its very possuble the
*its very possible there are more players that dont want it then do want it.
Can you show me ANY player that actually complained about the DH, dark side? There’s dozens who claimed it was a great step forward for the game. If you think there’s really
More that disliked it than approved of it, do you have any supporting evidence..?
If you like the DH, you have a whole league to watch and root for. Leave the NL alone. If pitchers don’t want to hit or have weak constitutions, let them only play for the AL. Where’s MadBum? I couldn’t stand him when he played for the Giants, but we NEED him now and he can talk some sense into Zac about how real pitchers swing the bat and hit for themselves.
Bumgarner is trash at hitting a home run here and there doesn’t make him good.
But is ‘trash’ but seeing Edwin encarnacian hit a bunch of homers in his 40s is just one step away from a softball league or home run hitting contest. You like the DH, fine you got the AL, why do you have to ruin it for everyone else?
yeah I dont get AL fans who even care about this argument. your asking others to make a change they dont want for what benfit. stick in your own lane.
Carlos Zambrano would’ve been a better example.
Anti DH folks are the reason why baseball doesn’t get more popular.
Yes, eliminate the DH and suddenly people will watch.
We were told high scoring would bring more fans too. That wasn’t true.
well said
No…….. 3.5 Hr games of relatively little action compared to basketball/football is why the youth doesn’t like baseball .
Its not all baseballs fault tho, society’s really changed in the last 25 years, a lot of the nostalgia has just naturally drifted away slowly and I don’t think younger generations will embrace the wealth disparities between team payrolls as kindly as us older folk
The reality is, love it or hate it, the NL WILL have a DH next year. Let’s just get it in place so we don’t have to:
A) have pitchers get hurt trying to bat; and
B) have to listen to the purists any more.
Yes- Ohtani can still bat.
im sure that was said before the last CBA too…
Here’s the thing. It wasn’t dude. Use facts. Not your alternative reality
Wrong.
First Weaver now Gallen. Tough for Arizona. Hopefully they recover. I ever when Oakland lost Jarred Parker and AJ Griffin to injuries and they never rebounded.
The Jarrod Parker story was a sad one. He tried to come back so many times but he knew at a certain point that his arm wouldn’t let him. Always sucks to see that happen to any pitcher.
MLB should do what’s right and let both leagues use the DH without getting something in return. But, they probably won’t.
and what if the players dont actually want it?
But keep those pitchers hitting because, you know, tradition and whatnot.
Which team wins the Gallen/Chisholm trade ultimately?
dbacks by a mile
I agree, was curious what others thought. Chisholm still seems to have a pretty high ceiling, but also a pretty low floor. I was surprised the Marlins didn’t take more time to see what they had in Gallen. If they still had him in addition to their current rotation, they may be a legitimate playoff contender.
True, but Jeter and Co. made some stellar moves, getting Alcantara for example, getting rid of Stanton’s contract, getting Marte for little.
MLB fans when gas stations went from full service to self-service: Im never fueling up my car again! Why change this, kill it, burn it with fire. Sound like a bunch of old men moaning and crying because change scares you. The universal DH imo made things more interesting last season and needs to be implemented.
It should have been done years ago. How is having one league with a DH and the other league without one fair in any way? It gives NL pitchers a much greater chance of getting injured, and makes it so that N.L. teams can’t carry a legitimate DH on their rosters (you don’t sign Nelson Cruz to bat once per game). It gives the A.L. a clear advantage and always has.
100% wrong. its a matter of team composition. AL teams benefit from being able to roster defensively limited players, but if playing in a NL park they dont have that luxury. and well built NL teams dont need a Stanton-type when they can develop a good hitting reserve to fill the DH spot in AL parks.
Not a D-Backs fan, but this gotta hurt.
When baseball thinks “nl should have a dh so pitchers don’t hit.” So a pitcher because a liability to hit but stays loose even more then sitting on the bench. But a dh in American League saves his body but he’s a defensive liability or can’t stay healthy but he’s a great bat only player. I mean these are the causes and effects when you do this. What’s going to happen next baseball becomes football? Put the defensive type players on the field then switch them with the offensive minded players if you can do both then you can do it. It’s sounds unrealistic but it’s sounds something the down the line baseball may become if this still becomes a joke.
What?
Just another reason Manfred, Tony Clark and MLB has become a joke. They can’t decide on a DH or not and then someone who shouldn’t be hitting gets hurt hitting. Nice job CLOWNS. I am officially done with the sport.