11:30AM: The Yankees have also recalled Luis Gil as a replacement player and optioned Nick Nelson to Triple-A, per a club announcement.
9:51AM: The Yankees have activated Luke Voit and placed Anthony Rizzo on the COVID-IL. Manager Aaron Boone says Rizzo has tested positive, per Lindsey Adler of The Athletic. He also is exhibiting some symptoms. As a positive test, he will be quarantined for at least 10 days.
The Yankees are now further hampered by an ongoing COVID outbreak that has already seen them place Gerrit Cole, Jordan Montgomery and Gary Sanchez on the IL in recent days. Since being acquired in a deal just before the deadline, Rizzo has had an excellent debut as a Yankee. In nine games, he’s slashed .281/.400/.563, for a wRC+ of 163.
The club will now turn to Voit and hope that he can return to last year’s excellent form. His wRC+ of 152 in 2020 was one of the best in the league. But 2021 has been a struggle so far, with a wRC+ of 98 while dealing with various injuries. The club reportedly nearly traded Voit after acquiring Rizzo, but the deal fell through at the last hour. After a knee injury in July, he had only started a rehab assignment a few days ago. But it seems Rizzo’s positive test has hastened his return.
Despite scrambling to cover for all of these players missing time, the team is on a hot streak and currently just 1 1/2 out of a playoff spot.
Maybe it was a good idea to not trade Voit after all
Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.
Yeah I like Voit and he was definitely one of Cashman’s better trades but his body style probably won’t hold up unless he can get half a season of DH. With Stanton and his A-Rod like contract the Yankees can’t offer him that. Let’s not forget Voit was a late bloomer. He is already 30 years old. Trading him now just makes sense. With his HR power he will be expensive in arbitration (he got $4.7m in his 1st year) and will probably spend 50 games a year on the IL. The FA class next year is stacked at SS. That is where the Yankees will throw the big bucks. Everyone can see the Yankees signing a big SS and moving DJ to 1st. They will trade Voit in the off-season giving Rizzo one less team as an option. He turned down 5/$70 from the Cubs. That was foolish. He is not the same player he was in 2016. He will be the fool that waits out FA looking for $100m and lands a 1/$15 deal from Philly Boston or NY. Unless the Angels get dumb with contracts again. Hopefully they learned from Upton, Pujols, Hamilton, and Rendon. Then again, it is the Angels.
Interesting remark about Voit’s body style. The most chiseled guy on the team, Giancarlo, is the one who’s been least able to stay on the field.
Voit is listed at 6’3″ 255. Jose Abreu is listed at 6’3″ 250 and he’s tied with Rizzo in the 8th rank in games played since 2016. Rizzo is listed at 6’3″ 240. They’re all big boys, and so far Abreu and Rizzo have held up pretty well..
Vaccinate!
he did
nevermind i read that wrong. been reading too many of these articles lol.
Rizzo did not vaccinate. Selfish!
Did you ever think there is a reason he did not vaccinate? I have a friend who suffers from gulf war syndrome–and how did he get it? Through a vaccine the government forced him to take.
Instead of being so self-righteous, maybe try to understand why someone may think differently from you. This used to be the standard in America, but thanks to social media and a generation that is turned so far inward this type of true tolerance has evaded us. Congrats on being so incredibly great, josebatflip.
@downsr30: ‘It’s almost like the vaccine doesn’t do much of anything for people that are already healthy and fit.’
This is based on what research? The fact is, vaccinated people of all types are better off than those who aren’t. Your choice is vaccination and whatever potential effects it might have down the line (which so far have been minimal) or COVID and potentially dying, then whatever potential effects it might have down the line (loss of taste/smell, respiratory issues, etc).
Choice seems like a no-brainer to me, especially when you consider that enough people getting vaccinated as the benefit of helping society as a whole get past this. Getting COVID doesn’t really have any positive benefits. But, it’s still a personal choice.
I’ll tell you what’s selfish is companies like the one I work for forcing employees to vaccinate. I just got informed on Monday that I must be fully vaccinated by Nov 1st or terminated. I have worked there nearly 2 years. I am never late to work and haven’t missed any work. This is just virtue signaling. I am most likely going to look elsewhere for employment. My job stayed open throughout this whole thing, and I myself have honestly felt excellent.
For the gentleman saying vaccines caused Gulf War Syndrome, I am posting this article from the US Army. While vaccines were once hypothesized to be one of many possible causes (over 10) of GWS, in 2009 the military announced that the possible causes were narrowed down to 3: chemical nerve agents, pesticides, and the use of Pyridostigmine Bromide pills. None of these are vaccines. Just wanted to share so we can all have the facts about this unfortunate disorder that inflicted many veterans of that war.
army.mil/article/21654/researchers_narrow_gulf_war…
“Instead of being so self-righteous, maybe try to understand why someone may think differently from you. This used to be the standard in America…”
Lol, when was that exactly?
“In summary, the epidemiological evidence for a multiple vaccine effect on Gulf War-related illness remains a potentially important aetiological lead, but mechanistic studies available at this stage do not identify any immunological basis for it.”
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2006.1…
In other words, vaccines have not been ruled out as a culprit in GWS
Virtue signaling? No, your employer has a responsibility to its workers to provide a safe workplace. Especially during a public health emergency. Your company is just making you do what you should have done on your own.
Here’s the problem you’re causing for both your company and everyone else. By not getting vaccinated you dramatically increase your chances of contracting covid (and about eight times more likely to experience symptoms per the CDC). Once you have it, you could very easily pass it on to someone else. Odds are the people you infect won’t die but they might. And there’s a good chance some of those people will experience serious symptoms. Do you care about what happens to them?
The vaccines have already proven to be safe and in the neighborhood of 90-95% effective. The vast majority of cases, both mild and serious are unvaccinated people. If you get vaccinated you will almost certainly avoid infection and you will be helping your community, some of whom work in your office.
i nominate longrelief as the 2021 VirtueSignalChampion.
Here’s a BBC article saying that depleted uranium wasn’t the cause of GWS
google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-56116101.amp
And the research was done by the University of Portsmouth, not the military
Your company is forcing people to vaccinate to protect you, your co-workers, and all of your families. You should be thankful you work for a company that cares about you and your loved ones.
I won’t belabor the point of you sourcing from the BBC, but I can’t help but to point out that the BBC has been the most vocal proponent for each/every one of our illegal invasions (aka war crimes).
Whatever the “truth” might be (re: GWS), I guarantee the victors have (re)written the history.
In what way does suggesting people should end an ongoing public health disaster constitute virtue signaling?
We know the vaccines are safe and very effective. We know that people who aren’t vaccinated make up the vast majority of those getting sick and spreading the thing. What about this do you find confusing?
I’m so glad that mlbtr opened up Covid comment sections to provide a platform so anti vaccine idiots can spew misinformation
I’m guessing the vast majority of them, and it’s probably close to 100%, had all the necessary vaccines done when they were children.. So they could go to school, become grown-ups and, years later, abandon all their critical faculties.
The sheer volume of people who believe in crackpot theories about all this is just stunning. An impossible to fathom kind of stunning.
Show one article that says depleted uranium caused GWS and there are probably ten out there that say its not, Show an article that says Vaccines are the cause of GWS, and there are probably ten out there that say it does not. I love all of these ‘freedom fighters’ that ‘love this country’ and our democracy/republic but yet do not go with the majority opinion of scientists (all of which are probably smarter than the ‘Rhodes scholars’ thinking otherwise).. So I’m guessing these people also think Jenny McCarthy has a PhD as well?
Always interesting to read whatever uneducated, unvaccinated folks have picked up from youtube conspiracy videos and their right-wing Facebook news feed. As long as you stay out of the gene pool mate, we’re ok.
Nice excuse for being selfish & stupid dude.
America used to force people into the draft (which came with a ton of inoculations btw) used to mandate a lot of things that nowadays we can chose not to do. You’re loving in the most free time in history in the US and you’re being a dick about it.
If people thought like you when polio was running rampant we’d all have iron lungs hanging around.
Jackass
Lol good, seems simple, get vaxxed or lose your job, as it should be, or else you’re endangering more people.
1- A vaccinated person is 3x less likely to catch Covid to begin with and 2x less likely to spread it. ( UK & Israeli studies) 2×6=6 right? An unvaccinated person is 6x as likely to spread it.
2-The larger the pool of unvaccinated, the larger the risk of more severe mutations.
3- Unvaccinated are much much more likely to have severe cases and be hospitalized, thus taking up beds especially ICU beds leading to non life threatening operations being delayed.
There are so many ways being unvaccinated adversely impacts society as a whole.
Selfish isn’t synonymous with prudent, wise, advisable, reasonable.
You’re an idiot. You are ignoring overwhelming evidence against your anti-vax views.
You’re an idiot. Vaccines don’t give Gulf War Syndrome or PTSD. I don’t know how so many of you ignorant people exist on this site.
It’s not an “opinion” or “free choice” if you think 2+2=5! And that’s how wrong all you anti-vaxxers are. Ignoring math and science is absurd!
You know what else has a 99% survival rate? Close your eyes tight and cross in the middle of a busy street.
Selfish to decide against a brand new DNA altering “vaccine” (it’s not an actual vaccine, as historically known). Nah, Rizzo’s a thinker. Having overcome cancer, the last thing he oughta do — being 30 & in peak physical condition — is put something in his body the FDA hasn’t given it’s full support to… Aside from that, people telling others what to do with their bodies? Pretty sickening.
#DoYOU
Great speech , other then the fact that the mRna vaccines do not interact with your Dna. Might help to tell the truth next time.
So basically what you’re saying is, despite what studies have shown, what experts have said, YOU, some guy on the internet, is the arbiter of truth. Whatever research scientists have done on the topic is all null and void because the great, all-mighty, and wise NickEsasky said that the news organization reporting on the study has done wrong in the past, therefore nullifying everything the study being reported on says. If the only people who can speak the truth are people who have never done anything wrong, then no one can speak. You put yourself on a slippery slope of skepticism that it seems you have long ago fallen off….
Get off it. VACCINATE!
Long relief, your numbers are skewed and incorrect. Also, the whole problem exists when people, particularly in government, can force you to do something medical in your personal life that they feel you should’ve done on your own. That’s a recipe for 1930s Eastern Europe style governing. If you can’t see that the individual should not be forced to inject something into his body (that isn’t even fully studied yet), in the name of “safety and knowing better” than you’ve missed the point entirely. There are many countries that will welcome you with open arms and then tell you what to do with your personal life.
@fred i agree with you it should be up to an individual to get vaccinated, tbh i’m not getting inoculated for a disease that evolves quickly like the flu. most people that are 18~40ish and in good health (like most sport athletes) are going to be fine. tbh with my trade (i’m in construction) i’m more worried about cancer because i’m exposed to fire retardant, silica, and various other chemicals that are far more wicked than covid. imo where only in this spot because no one wants to get sick anymore, as a society as soon as we get the “sniffles” we run to the doc and get some drugs to feel better instead of letting our body fight off naturally. our immune system is like a muscle the more you work it the stronger it becomes, using drugs all the time to fight illness only weakens it.
No, he didn’t.
He did not. He’s openly talked about that
again, misread. see correction above.
No DarkSide you will be reminded again and again!
Well now he certainly won’t as he will have antibodies
The natural antibodies have 2.5 times less longevity than those create by vaccines. Always better to vaccinate (for obvious other reasons as well).
There is absolutely no possible way to prove this. There has not been enough time passed. Hence, the vaccines do not have FDA or EU approval.
Lol. Just because you can’t find the research doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
A study out of Israel just found that natural immunity is 6.7 times greater than vaccine immunity.
You know nothing.
Not according to this from Johns Hopkins: jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-…
It’s basically already approved. It’s passed all safety standards and are just trying to come up with the regulations for distribution. It’s as safe as any other vaccine.
So, here is how the process works. All trials, testing and medical scientific evidence (including John Hopkins) is compiled and submitted via bla or pdufa to the FDA. It is then peer reviewed in a process known as adcom. Finally, efficacy and safety are reviewed and the vaccine/therapy/drug is approved or issued a crl. No covid19 vaccine has passed this process.
That is patently false . Emergency use was granted based on scientific clinical trials of a large enough sample size to establish efficacy. Why do you anti-vaxxers continue to blatantly lie. What benefit do you get from spreading misinformation with 0 scientific foundation.
100% incorrect TalkSomeSense.
Let’s discuss a century of governments mandating programs of depopulation, shall we?
My awareness stems from my ancestors being targeted by Eugenecists for involuntary sterilization (in the US/Canada), at the same time Hitler applied (Rockefeller’s) Eugenical genocide in Germany.
Good luck with that misinfo you’re clinging to.
The emergency authorization was unprecedented and the clinical trials could not stand up to the scrutiny for FDA approval but we as a society acquiesced emergency authorization because of the pandemic. I’m not anti-vaxx there are many safe and effective proven vaccinations for several diseases. Just speaking truth.
“No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear” ~ Edmund Burke
“There is absolutely no possible way to prove this” said the moron who refuses to look up any of the research done that proves that antibodies created from the vaccine do stay in the immune system longer than antibodies produced from having Covid.
Nick
Sooo now you are clinging to the idea the the vaccine is a modern day international plot to depopulate the planet. SMH
MkeYankee: You are correct. It is also why every other vaccine (this one too) will take 10+ years to determine true efficacy/consequence. It’s also precisely why it’s unconstitutional to mandate one receive this vaccine as opposed to others they are required to receive for schools, etc. – see endless array of lawsuits…
Incredible how those supporting this espouse ignorance as the reason for you disagreeing with their opinion, as well as a lack of education/research, when the very problem of approval/mandate rests on the fact that we cannot effectively predict what the results in 10 years will be.
But, as a pro-vaccination person (fully vetted, researched, and approved ones, that is) I can certainly see this is how other countries end up with the ‘collective’ right outweighing one’s own.
“The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.” The quote is from Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. Your rights are protected up to the point where you infringe on someone else’s rights.
This can be used by both sides however it will come into play when employees try to sue over vaccine mandates.
You have the right to not be vaccinated but you then have no ground to stand on when subject to more stringent mitigation measures or as a condition of employment.
Actually they have EUA; Emergency Use Authorization and it already has been proven that those whom are vaccinated have antibodies ~6 months at the level once maximum vaccination efficacy is reached two weeks after second dose vs. those that contract COVID-19 where the antibodies are greatly diminished ~6 weeks post positive.
The vaccine does exist, and full FDA approval is a longer process than authorization but will happen any day now. The studies on the vaccines are overwhelmingly positive!
Wrong. Authorization is still based on substantial testing. Approval is based on even more.
Thanks Fauci. Now go back to bed commie. Your government assistance check will be there soon.
I see you can not put forward an honest argument based on the truth and facts.
TalkSomeSense: Infringing on someone’s rights? No. This does not apply to violation of Individual’s rights and punching someone is entirely different than being forced to take a vaccine so you don’t “potentially infect” someone else. That’s a straw man, again. Any analysis of court cases will clearly illustrate the two cases are not the e same, nor are they predicated based on the same fact pattern. You misapply a quote from a SC Justice and think that gives credibility to your argument but you are wrong.
Employers cannot force vaccines for a number of legal reasons. They cannot with this because it has not yet been fully vetted – that’s been well established. Moreover, they cannot fire people with AIDS, which is more analogous than your punching analysis/argument, because it’s been tried even when they thought it was far more contagious than it is.
The foundation of your argument is flawed because it is based on confirmation bias, not objectivity. Government/business cannot regulate your personal medical decisions, in spite of the tyrannical methodology you support.
WOW do you really think that quote was truly about punching someone?
It refers to the principle of rights in a modern society and your ” rights” do not infringe on someone else ..
You do not have the right to put others at risk by selfish action.
Thus we have a multitude of Laws that protect society from the selfish action of others.
Those who whine about wearing a mask , social distancing, getting vaccinated taking away their freedom have no real concept what real freedom means. You people are prime example of why laws and regulation are required in the first place. Many people act selfishly and can not see beyond their own nose. You want all the benefits of being a member of a modern society without taking the responsibility of the ” collective good”
Not quite how that works
No, and stop giving medical advice.
Stop not giving medical advice.
That’s up to Rizzo to vaccinate. Not anyone else.
So he’s paying the consequences for being selfish.
So will everyone else he just infected in NY.
And if he has minimal symptoms and comes back just fine like nearly everyone else that is healthy and fit, and even those that are vaccinated – is that really “paying the consequences” for not getting vaccinated?
Bull. Not vaccinating puts EVERYONE ELSE in danger. You don’t get to decide if driving drunk is OK based on personal freedom and neither should you get to decide that you don’t want a vaccination during a global pandemic.
Ted, mandating you not drink and drive is VERY different than mandating you inject a vaccine into your system. That’s a straw man, but good try.
Forcibly injecting that is the very freedom that establishes the foundation of our constitution protects against. It can NEVER be revoked. That’s the point. If one dies from the vaccine, that’s okay though? In the name of public safety?
So you can cling to this argument, but like many other intelligent commentors have pointed out – if you don’t want to vaccinate, then don’t be out in public putting others in danger and FWIW, HIPAA has absolutely zero barring on your employers right to call you a fool or make you vaccinate to enter your workspace.
Except people can still catch and spread covid despite getting vaccinated. We’ve seen this time and time again. So how exactly does getting vaccinated protect anyone but yourself? You can argue that you absolutely should protect yourself, but the vaccine will only lessen the symptoms of an infection, not reduce spread or keep others from catching it from you. Dr. Fauci himself has said this over and over. At this point, it’s all a personal choice that has no effect on anyone else, because there isn’t anyone in this country who can’t get a vaccine if they want one.
“mandating you not drink and drive is VERY different than mandating you inject a vaccine into your system. That’s a straw man, but good try.
Forcibly injecting…”
No one is forcibly injecting anything into anyone. Many organizations are requiring vaccination if you choose to interact with them. You are free to not interact with them. Just as you are free to drink. And free to drive. And even, in your own driveway, free to drink and drive if you really want. But, it’s illegal for you to drink and drive on public roads because it risks other people’s lives, even though it restricts your freedom.
So, with those straw men out of the way, can you explain why drinking and driving is illegal in a way that isn’t ironic?
Yes, drinking is an action that impairs ones ability to operate a MV. It is a conscious choice that is made by the drinker, that is proactive and doesn’t require any right to privacy violations (ie, making someone consume something). It has also been proven through decades of crashes/crash reporting data/studies to critically reduce one’s ability to carry out the function of driving a 3,000 pound vehicle at any speed down a highway.
Refusing a vaccine does not involve proactively changing your core functions which violates established law, particularly since the latter law is not a RIGHT, but a privilege. It is a RIGHT to make your own medical choices and to go out in public regardless of your medical condition. Also, nobody can force you (as suggested above) to inject anything into your body. Again, they tried this ‘control’ with HIV / AIDS victims and it failed miserably. Also, getting vaccinated does NOT prevent spreading it.
I don’t have time to give you a full legal lecture, but if you can’t figure it out from here, I cannot help you and you will be utterly confounded by this rights issue indefinitely.
You realize you can still get Covid if you are vaccinated, right?
Shh. This is no place for reason and rational thought.
But you wouldn’t get it if you’re vaccinated if there was herd immunity. That’s why you’re an ass if you don’t get it unless you have a condition that prevents you from getting it.
When has anyone on earth claimed that the vaccine makes you 100% immune? You people love to trot this out like it’s this amazing piece of knowledge, but everyone who has paid any bit of attention has known this since Day 1.
There is ALWAYS someone saying “if you want the vaccine then get it, stop telling others to do it” as is getting the vaccine makes me immune to the idiocy of others.
So if other people can catch it, even if they’re vaccinated, and you’re already vaccinated, aren’t you as protected from covid as you can be? What difference does it make as far as infecting you if someone has caught covid but been vaccinated vs. someone catching covid with no vaccination?
….. and if you get it (which no one ever said the vaccine stops you from getting it, by the way) the symptoms will be far less severe. The key is to keep people out of hospitals with this stuff.
One of the biggest reasons for manufacturing a vaccine is to impede the spread of transmission….which, this experimental injection, does NOT.
When I had SARS-COV2, I wouldn’t have even known it if not for the test, just like the other 80% of Covid cases that are ASYMPTOMATIC.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32241884/
That is total BS. Studies out of the UK and Israel have shown that the vaccinated are 3x less likely to contract Covid and 2x less likely to pass it on. Combined that is a factor of 6. An unvaccinated person is 6x more likely to spread the Virus. Plus a large pool of unvaccinated increase the risk of mutation.
Get off it. VACCINATE!
You can still get it even if you vaccinate. I did.
Shut up!
Cubs fans: “He wouldn’t have gotten Covid if they didn’t trade him”
Sucks for Rizzo, but is anyone surprised? Meanwhile, emo boy Brett Taylor at Bleacher Nation is crapping out an article about this and putting all his many many feelings he feels into it.
Rizzo is a big anti-vaxxer. Is there a league in the panhandle of Florida he could play in?
The term anti vaxxer is totally bs. He’s already said that it’s not for him but he’s not against the vaccine. Totally his choice as any medical decision should be. The Delta is a very contagious but less deadly strain.
SO he is not pro-vaccine and refuses to get it even tho he is at high-risk; that would make him…..drumroll please, an ANTI-VAXXER
No, it would not
See, your post is EXACTLY the problem with…. a LOT of things.
Most things are not as simple as that, and almost no thing is as simplistic as that.
“pro-vaccine” hahahahaha
the vaccineS are not a baseball game
Have ANY of you people EVER considered reserving judgement on ANY thing?
You can be pro choice and choose not to have an abortion. So why can’t you be pro vaccine and not take the shots?
A lot of the wind is going to be taken out of the vaccine hesitancy probably next month when the FDA gives full approval for Pfizer. I understand those that want to wait for that. I have a harder time with those that spout the microchip, depopulation, sterilization theories.
Or those that say it’s a freedom thing. Did you give up your freedoms when you got the chickenpox vaccine? Or the measles vaccine.?
When Rizzo came out and said he wasn’t going to get the vaccine, if he’d just said it was because of his medical history, would have totally agreed. But Heyward and him started talking about other “Twitter”-type theories.
No …..the term signifies someone being against the vaccine. ANTI VAXXER. I’m personally glad it’s available to protect those most venerable and others who are not threatened to vaccinate. I had a very mild case of covid last year. I’m not getting it. But I’m ok if you do.
“Less deadly.” Uhh, no, it’s just that older people have become vaccinated at a much higher rate than the general population, therefore decreasing the percentage of fatalities.
Rizzo isn’t vaccinated. Especially because he has had cancer, not sure what he was thinking. Hopefully he gets lucky and it doesn’t hit him too hard.
Perhaps it’s counter indicated in his situation. I love the true disinformation that everyone should must get a shot because a political doctor who has been documented to be wrong as many times as right should be listen too ? People stop the hate stop giving up your rights
Yes instead of listening to every well known medical mind in the world we should listen to some guy in the comments section.
Didn’t realize it was only 1 doctor who says you should get vaccinated….
Getting vaccinated is not giving up your rights. Its exersizing your rights. The vaccine is not required. Everyone should make the decision based on their current health situation and that of their loved ones. Talk to a medical expert you trust.
Political doctor? What are you even talking about?
not to say the previous poster is correct in their overall assessment of the situation, but the government employs any number of people from various fields, and any such person in a position of power could be considered in part a politician, or be liable to political influence. there are such people, such as the “docters” misadvising or complying with false claims about HIV during the HIV scare. id presume that’s what is meant here by “political doctor[s].”
Do you mean like a former pres did, when he appointed a flunky like Barr?
yeah, one could make that argument, being that he was an AG, though he’d certainly be more the “politician” side then the “doctor” side.
You mean the man now more powerful than the President? Fauci? He says whatever he needs to to keep the narrative.
Being mad at Fauci during a pandemic that has killed 1 in 500 Americans is a strange way to go through life. Imagine having two hundred 9/11s in one year and people saying “yeah but Bush is just trying to scare us.”
Why do you people try and make a once in a century pandemic political.?
Show us your intelligence by your ability to simply not understand basic grammar. Too = also
Totally agree jz. My wife had cancer and she was first in line to get vaccinated.
Cancer survivors are encouraged to get the vaccine. Of course they are — why risk having COVID when you had cancer before? Rizzo shouldn’t get it if he knows he’d have a bad allergic reaction to component(s) of the vaccine. We haven’t heard that’s the case. We have to hope he knew what he was doing to refuse the vaccine.
My wife is in cancer treatment – and vaccinated. It’s Rizzo’s prerogative however he could become very sick. Praying for this guy.
Actually, the safety and increased risk for cancer related to the vaccines has not been studied fully. Hence, no FDA or EU approval. Your doctor should have advised this risk.
When has the risk of cancer ever been part of the initial grant of FDA approval for a drug or vaccine? It takes ten years or more to measure most carcinogenic effects. Some medications have had their approvals pulled years after they came on the market, after widespread deployment, and the cancer risks became measurable. If a vaccine had to be proven out that it doesn’t increase the risk of cancer, then no vaccines would ever be approved. You just can’t measure this in limited clinical trials.
Cubs fans: “He would have gotten Covid if they didn’t trade him”
*wouldn’t
Still not funny. You should post it again.
You should repeat the same comment five more times.
Third time’s the charm?
He must be one of those MAGA rubes denying science, right??
Tell me, is ignorance bliss? From your comment, my assumption is you would know.
A lot of players “testing positive” recently, but I wonder how many are actually sick
Meh, give him some time. Rizzo is still waiting on more data to come out before getting the vaccine.
He’ll be fine. Like most everyone else that has gotten this disease.
Except the 600,000 people who died from it. We went to war over 3,000 deaths on 9/11 but 600k isn’t a big deal apparently.
Those guys are from the Stalin school of statistics. 1 death is a travesty- 1 million deaths are a statistic.
Same party that freaked out incorrectly that the ACA might ration health care to elderly – now casually says “only old people are dying so why shut down RESTAURANTS? I need my burger.”
How many of those deaths had underlying conditions? I will bet that the numbers have been falsely overstated.
Well take your compliant about not doing anything to Uncle Joe Biden who apparently feels we should be understanding and “human” towards the Chinese Communist Gov’t and actually thank them for the opportunity to test our virus response.
More like holocaust deniers
How many MLB players have died of it?
Most people who have died had multiple comorbidities. They died with COVID but not necessarily from it.
Better now than in the playoffs.. I think he has a choice like everyone else. I’m vaccinated but I don’t blame others who aren’t. Get back soon!
Have to love all these keyboard doctors in here telling Rizzo “should have vaccinated” and “you’re selfish” for not getting vaccinated. News flash morons, you can still get covid even if you’re vaccinated. Rizzo chose not to get vaccinated and it’s not anyone’s business why he went that route. Maybe he had a talk with his doctor and felt he didn’t feel it was best for him. You morons do know the guy had cancer too right? So maybe him and his doctor talked about the risks? Maybe his level of cancer he had plus the vaccine would have made him worse in the long run? I don’t have a clue into his medical records or his logic and neither do any of you, so stop vaccine shaming
starting to regret voting for COVID comment sections to be open. im fine with discourse in general, but all these ones become is arguing, and in reality probably only one or two people who even comment on this site are qualified to provide advice either way, and what good even does that advice do?
And you’re one of the people that feeds the arguments Darkside. You think you have to comment 10 times on every article.
at least im less combattive then the “who cares about COVID” or the “arrest the unvaccinated” people. yeah, sorry for trying to mediate a bit.
Pretty sure comments were left open because Covid news always brings in huge amounts of traffic. The poll results were ultimately inconsequential to the final decision, in my opinion.
weren’t they in favor anyway? perhaps i am misremembering here.
I have no more knowledge than you about Rizzo, but the general consensus among the medical field is cancer survivors or other people with immune compromised systems should get the vaccine. His call, 100%. Hopefully that decision doesn’t sideline him too long.
News flash moron 97% of people currently hospitalized due to covid aren’t vaccinated. No vaccine is 100% but it greatly lessens the symptoms. Wearing a seat belt isn’t 100% effective. I still wear one because it gives me a much better chance at living if I’m in an accident. Sorry everyone, not all Brewer fans are dopes like this guy.
The number of people who don’t understand the difference between 95% and 100% is somewhat concerning and disheartening.
“You can still get Covid.” What is your point? Vaccines aren’t a cure.
The overwhelming majority of people who are hospitalized with Covid are unvaccinated. I don’t know what Rizzo’s reasons are or what his doctors may have recommended, but the vaccines are working quite well in reducing symptoms of those who are infected. Obviously there will be exceptions, as always.
Very well said!!
What did Rizzo expect? From a purely baseball standpoint, I’d be upset if I am a Yankees fan. He is coming over for 60 games and now he is missing at least 10 and is flat out hurting his ballclub. He is a good but declining player on an expiring deal who needs to perform . 10 days off min w symptoms, he may lose a little strength and may take a while to get back his swing, etc. I know most.mlb players did the j&j and that one has lower efficacy in avoiding symptoms but to just say you do not care about hurting your ballclub is selfish esp. when this was quite likely to happen.
Maybe he expects as a healthy athlete he’d have no problem dealing with COVID with his immune system alone? You know, like every single player who had it before the vaccine did?
Hopefully his selfishness won’t effect other family members or teammates.
You can catch it despite being vaccinated, so it doesn’t matter if he had every covid vaccine under the sun, he’d still have caught it and been a potential spreader. Maybe if his “family members and teammates” don’t want to be hit hard by the virus they should be vaccinated themselves?
“If you are sober when you drive, why do you care if I’m drunk when I drive? There is a study out of Israel that says drunks can drive twice as well as sober people. Stop trying to take away my freedom!”
I’ve never driven in Israel, so I can’t attest to that fact, but where I live in the USA, drunk drivers certainly do not drive better than sober people, evidenced by frequent wrong way driving head on collisions.
BTW, just realized you were commenting from an earlier post.
Poor analogy.
A perfect analogy doesn’t become “poor” because you dislike it.
Point out the flaw, I’m genuinely curious to hear someone explain why drunk driving should be illegal without completely invalidating their “restaurants can’t make me be vaccinated” stance.
Agreed on that post. He may recover but could have lingering effects for months. People get your shots! Let’s get over this thing. Why continue to kill people?
The self-righteousness on this thread is over the top…if only the rest of the world would listen to the geniuses on the mlbtr discussion boards, we would all be perfectly happy and healthy!
Well, I’m this case yeah, we’d be closer to wiping out this virus that’s killing millions, if everyone would do their part. Otherwise it’s gonna keep mutating into new variants and we may never be able to keep up. It’s not self-righteousness, it’s wanting people to care about one another so we can all put this behind us.
I surely hope one day in the near future we can all be safe from a cough that has a less than 1% fatality rate and primarily is dangerous to the elderly, obese, and immune compromised. No measures must be off the table in order to stop such an insidious plague on humanity.
Actually the world wide fatality rate has been 2.1%. Sounds like you would be ok with 166 million deaths. You would make Mao-Stalin-Hitler proud.
“I am putting more patients in their 20s and 30s and 40s on oxygen and on life support than at any other time in this pandemic,” said Dr. Erin Brennan, an emergency room physician in Detroit.
Great, except this does not just go away, and is not only targeting those groups. You have a lot of people (in many cases people that are athletes) that will be dealing with symptoms of this for at least a year, if not the rest of their lives. Ventilators may save people in covid cases, but also damage a patients lungs due to how they have to work..You also have people perfectly healthy one monent and then getting lung transplants due to Covid but yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
Another antivaxxer nut got Covid? What a shock. Feel no sympathy in for this idiot at all
What’s your response to someone who got vaccinated and got covid? “What a shock? Feel some sympathy for this idiot??”
Damnit.
This hurts, man. Hopefully the team will keep rolling along and Voit can hold his own.
Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2
Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.
It’s almost like their immune systems worked as intended and made them immune.
5 months is not a long enough span to draw conclusive conclusions. Immunity has been proven to diminish over time. ( antibody studies )
Rizzo testing positive for Covid seems like a ploy since he has been anti-vaccination since day one. Let’s not forget Rizzo is playing for the Yankees which is a billion dollar franchise where he has to go along with the agenda. Professional sports to the politicians to the media is pushing these vaccinations so hard on us, especially those who refuse to get the vaccinations. In the mean time, we all know positive tests can be very inaccurate where a person does not even show any symptoms at all when he or she tests positive. Not one athlete had any severe effects, however, it’s estimated that around 78% of the people who allegedly died from Covid were overweight and already had some underlying issues like diabetes to heart issues or even cancer. Maybe people need to take better care of themselves with eating healthier to being active rather than eating garbage and sitting around on their couches watching tv? That’s just me digressing on this Covid issue especially living in Chicago where it seems more and more are worried about getting shot.
Meanwhile Turner was pulled from the last game in the World Series due to testing positive for Covid yet he was on the field celebrating not wearing a mask with the Dodgers. Optics are something society needs to pay attention to more than listening to the talking heads on tv or reading some article on the internet.
Imagine if this stupid ‘my right not to get the vaccine’, stupid baseless excuses (like it magnetizes you.. yeah, really) and anti vax crap existed 70 years ago? We’d still fighting Polio and Smallpox.. Wake up, shut up, grow up and get your vaccine.. Stop letting politics cloud your judgement, and thinking this some ‘rights’ thing or right vs left thing, its a health thing, its a ‘lets not die’ thing. Next thing you know is these whiny babies will claim the millions that died from this thing is a false flag event…. GROW up.. if you are afraid of needles then just admit to it, and not make excuses.. Close your eyes, think of your family and friends (if you do not want to do it for your country or the World), and get that damn vaccine. As for the whole ‘well I had cancer once so Im not getting it’ Well I had cancer in my life (also fairly certain I got Covid back in Dec of 19) and still got the vaccine, I guy I work with had a really serious cancer (Chemo and Radiation) and he got the vaccine. Enough is enough, people need to grow up in this world, let alone in this country.
Yes there ARE those who cannot get the vaccine due to LEGITIMATE health reasons, and their doctors have also reported for them to not get it, but that just puts more of an emphasis on those who can get it (and not just making stupid excuses) to get it to get to build up herd immunity and try to reduce all of these variants popping up!
Imagine equating small pox and polio to covid (slightly more moderate than the common cold). Let me guess… Covid is worse than AIDs in your book, too?
AIDs has treatments that many take right now to stave of that virus’s effects. I do not see idiots running around saying its my choice not to take AZT so I can die a horrible death.. do you?
You can gloss over the point that was made, this thing is serious, its deadly and easily transmissible. Too many dopes are running around says whats the big deal? OK, fine. Go to a Covid ward at a hospital, get into a face of some hacking their lungs out, and take a deep breathe, then I guess we will see how big of a deal it is to you.. If you hedge at such a suggestion, you should.
Now, grow up and get your shot, if you got it, good for you, you did something smart then. If you cannot due to a legitimate medical reason then fine, but then stop trying to play down the need for others to get it so you can have less a chance of getting it.
You’re an imbecile. Obviously
You sound like a stupid cub fan.
The former Cub who stirred up a controversy in Chicago among his teammates and fans by refusing a COVID-19 vaccine despite having the underlying condition of Hodgkin’s lymphoma when he was 18, a form of cancer that attacks the immune system.
Many cancers have an effect on the immune system if not directly. Chemo and Radiation also mess with your immune system as well. However, I have also seen no medical knowledge that says that if you had Hodgkins lymphoma 15 years ago that you cannot get the vaccine now (maybe there is such info out there, but not really seeing it). My mom had her spleen removed about 2 years ago and got the vaccine about 6 months ago. Doctors have encouraged many who have had cancer in their past to ensure they get the vaccine as soon as possible to stop serious infection of Covid.
Look, if his doctor literally said “Don’t get this” then yeah, he should not. But too many feeble minded people out there are not getting it due to be bird brained or scared of needles.. They need to get over it and get the shot.
My wife is an X-ray technologist who works in a Level I hospital located in the most heavily populated county in the Chicago metropolitan area. She’s been doing her job for some 40 years and and has been dealing with COVID-19 since it began in full force early on in 2020. She’s seen the horror up close and personal including all the “cotton candy” images of lungs that continue to show up in her scans. This is to say nothing of many of the previously infected who continue returning to the hospital for treatment and X-rays for other conditions that have manifested since their original diagnosis. This insidious and constantly mutating virus is a serious problem and should be treated as such.
Correct. My good friend has been undergoing aggressive treatment for almost a year now. He had a hiatus in-between and his doctors encouraged him to get vaccinated then. We also have mutual friends who’ve decided not to get the shot. Two of them have had Covid yet fortunately walked away unscathed. I can hang out with my recovering friend at his home yet those two cannot. We all respect one anothers’ decisions and this doesn’t change our friendships.
It’s ability to mutate into a more contagious and deadlier form is scary. Suddenly, an old persons problem is now a young persons problem. The more virus in circulation, the greater the chance of mutation. This battle isn’t just going away and the Delta variant is showing that complacency is unwise. As a society, I think we to need to put our philosophical differences to one side, and go to war for a period. Thankfully, my Government is saying I don’t need a gun and a trip overseas to some godforsaken battlefield to protect the lifestyle my kids and I have become accustomed too. I just need to get vaccinated and speed up the herd immunity process. It seems the UK has shown the way. Ok, I’m in. Here’s hoping 70-80% of my countrymen feel the same way.
Let’s hope Anthony bounces back. Great ballplayer!
This thread is WILD
I’m amazed at how well the media can pull off psyops.
Voit can’t hit anymore. It’s painful to watch.
You’re free to own a gun, just don’t use it to shoot other innocent people, Mr. Parkland HS alum. You’re free to not vaccinate, just don’t infect other people. Why is this so darn difficult to understand? It’s not about you. That’s the whole reason for all the protocols. So you don’t infect other people. That’s how you end a pandemic. By not infecting other people. If we weren’t such selfish dolts, the pandemic would be over. 0% would die. Duh.
Vaccinated people still transmit the virus too unfortunately.
You guys do realize that a large number of supposedly vaccinated people have been given saline placebos. This is how any experimental trial is conducted. So you may not be vaccinated when you think you are. Certainly a large number of people you believe were vaccinated just got the saline.
There have been several stories of people accidentally getting saline instead of the vaccine. How is that possible unless they are purposely giving placebos? So why bang on people who haven’t gotten the vaccine when many others effectively don’t have it?
Placebo is given during Clinical trials . Love how you anti-vax crowd use 1-2 occurrences and through the magic powers of hyperbole make it ” a large ” number.
You do know a record is kept of lot and batch numbers right? Anyone conducting a clinical trial is not also open to public walk in vaccinations. it is very tightly controlled.
I was wondering what the next talking point of the fringe would be.
Please provide a link to your source.
It’s simple logical deduction. The roll out is being used as a large scale trial. Why would there be any saline only vaccines sent out if this wasn’t the case? How did they figure out these mistakes happened after the fact if there were just a few vials that for some reason didn’t get the right mixture. They wouldn’t know that these vials were not proper doses. Are you saying they test each vaccine container after injecting people to verify they got the correct dosage?
It’s not an anti-vaccine position. What if a major sports star got a stroke from one of the vaccines and couldn’t play any more? Would that make people more likely to want to get the vaccine? There’s virtually no risk of any athlete having long term problems from COVID, so why risk a PR nightmare?
Are you really saying that governments are allowing widespread nonconsensual trials on the public? Giving half of us a placebo. Ok that isn’t anti-vax, that is conspiracy nut.
You do know that saline is mixed with the Vaccine when they are preparing the shots from each vile.
They only thing I found from reputable sources was stage 3 trial participants wondering if they got the placebo or a vaccine.
They haven’t done such things before? Recall the Tuskegee syphilis project? What better way to do it than with a mild thing like COVID, which has such a low death rate.
Lmao leave it to you conspiracy nuts to bring up something that happened 50 yrs ago, involved a few hundred people in one country and compare that to the 2.2 billion vaccinated in 200+ countries.
What’s next? An Alien plot to takeover the planet.
I see for a 2nd time you fail to provide a source.
People that have been vaccinated are getting Covid all of the time and they can still pass it on to other people. If the vaccine is so effective why are they still requiring masks for vaccinated people in several parts of the country. If the vaccine worked it would not matter who took it because the ones who have would be protected. But that isn’t the case. It doesn’t work. I am not an anti vaxer. But this vaccine doesn’t work. Plenty of proof out there
Care to explain why 99.99% of deaths are the unvaccinated and depending on state 92-97% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated? None of the Vaccines claimed to be 100% effective. Where you been the past 8 months?
Why is it the highest increase in cases are mostly low vax states?
You people who claim the vaccines do not work are:
1- Intentionally spreading dangerous misinformation.
2- Gullible and willing to believe anything the conspiracy nuts tell you.
3-Anti-science
4- Dumber then a bag of nails.
5-All of the above.
Please show some of this proof that is everywhere. Your source?
Well there was a 99.99% survival rate from Covid before the vaccine. Now the “not 100% effective” vaccine needs a booster shot. Look how much money these companies made from this vaccine and then factor in the profit from the booster shots. And there is still no idea of what long term affects will be from it. You can call everyone stupid or dumb if you want. But just because someone doesn’t want to take it doesn’t mean it’s because of conspiracy nuts or social media. Some people can think for themselves
Let me ask you something. What is 617,000 divided by 35,800,000 ?
I assume you have at least Grade 5 math skills.
In the event you do not .. the answer is .0172 . I have come across some of your like minded pals who think this .0172% but in math you have to take away 2 decimal points to arrive at % . Thus it is 1.72% Now what is 100-1.72? It is 98.28% not 99 not 99.99 .
One of 3 things can explain this.
1- You are terrible at match.
2- A liar spreading misinformation
3- Blindly listen to the fringe right talking heads.
To sum up , you would be totally ok with 1.72% or 5,676,000 of your fellow citizens dying before this is over?
You people are so ignorant or just so blinded that it defies all rational thought.
My god man you crowd all use the same 4-5 talking points that the right wing talking heads have fed you . Puppets.
1- Terrible at math – had a typo.
Where’s your source for this ridiculous “99.99%” figure? How is that even close to “scientific”? You’re like a stats nerd who only looks at numbers and doesn’t actually look at what’s happening all around them.
No telling what they teach about American law in the Philippines or why you would come here and try to explain it to Americans. I guess the agencies are outsourcing trolling jobs to save a buck.,
I guess your knowledge of geography and history is not a strength. The US Military/Clark/Subic ring a bell? I will leave it to you to figure out.
Well we know the army employs trolls so that puts all the pieces in place.
I forgot you were a conspiracy aficionado .
At least our brave troll trooper will “feel safer” walking around there as he makes his way to Citi Field on the Number 7. Don’t blame yourself, every group has its dregs, unfortunately Italians are good talkers so your dregs can find their way into political office.